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[camn]

I don't like the.. like fake "I have something to do.. but I am waiting for CERTAIN CONDITIONS" thing.
What is that? And then the conditions... it's nothing game-related, but just 'lemme hear from Tammy and TTH'?

Its more like- Im gonna lurk like crazy, and hopefully soft some nonsense so I can get away with it for a while.

[Prism]

The thing about those is that I'm pretty sure they're legitimate, even if he were scum. That's one of those things where you know

exactly

what you're going to say if you fake it.

Waiting on two players, particularly ones he thinks he can get an easy handle on, is totally a reasonable move too.

[camn]

Why is it reasonable?
It seems like an arbitrary excuse to lurk, and I would bet $1 he doesn't actually have shiz to say after they 'weigh in', which, especially considering they are both HALVES OF A HYDRA. It may or may not ever happen.. or maybe already has happened... and we don't even get to know.

SO, like, wtf.

[Caryatid]

can't words today. will words later. reread some isos:



bye

[Caryatid]

[Heartless]

Heartless's kmd read was strange, with TTH explaining Anti's read using quotes...rather than just having Anti check in himself and give the read. Feels like a really forced hydra reaction.

I was on that night and I knew Anti wasn't going to be.
You think I made that up or what?

[Heartless]

The timing behind #136 is also just forced and stranged for a natural scumread.

You think engaging Spiffeh when he outright said he was bored is "forced"?
Alright-y....

[Heartless]

1) Odd Progression on Spiffeh

That's

exactly

the issue Anti cited with Cary but early game reads being in flux is not necessarily scummy, See: House Arryn from King's Landing. I don't think it's as much cause for concern as you or Anti think it is.

I'll go ahead and let Cary respond to the rest of 415 but there are a couple weaknesses in the logic chain.

I gut townread 327 because my first instinct is that scum doesn't shade throw on mastina in the clumsy way they did. It's not enough for a legitimate push but it's also potentially pissing off one of the loudest mouths in the game

and

he co-opts mastina herself into it by inviting her to participate? If that's from scum, that's a surprisingly (and pointlessly) ballsy move.

[Heartless]

Yeah that was a pretty good post from kmd.

Really?
Which part?

[camn]

If that's from scum, that's a surprisingly (and pointlessly) ballsy move.

Unless they are partners, that is... right?

[Heartless]

mastina being scum isn't something I'm entertaining right now and you shouldn't be either.

[camn]

I obviously don't. But YOU should, no?

[Heartless]

No

[camn]

OK then.

[VNB National Plan]

Heartless: Still town. Yup that's it!
Ginngie: Bella says from experience Spiffeh is a pretty easy lynch in the early game because he's a little shitposty, even if his reads in the lategame are really good, he has to get there. Also trying to lie about her personal experience with him would be stupid because he has Paragon beside his name so why the fuck would she make that up? :V If he has a super decent game you could link it, maybe we will even read it!
NMS: You made Bella sad because

you're holding Jae hostage in your QT

Jae isn't coming out to play so Bella is sadly waving to her from the other side of the driver's seat.
Imperium: Interaction with Spiffeh in 391 seems geniune
kmd's long post is super-null. It's going back to early game stuff to discuss set-up spec, it doesn't really progress the game, then it throws shade at Prism for being drunk (which is like, the lowest blow, what's wrong with drunkposting yo?). The only good part to us is critiquing Spiffeh-wagon but frankly everyone should be doing it so it's an easy target. No moving forward with reads here.
Prism: Regarding post 421, where else have you seen people faking those kind of tone-tells? Anti and the imperium hydra are generally really good at that kind of read, and it seems a dangerous thing to fake. Also, what are you trying to achieve by attacking gingies defense: do you just want her to agree with you, or is there something more? Cary should definitely answer Prism's 415 about progression of her Spiffeh read as he has valid points.

Bella's interpretation of the drawings: Why are we a weird crosshatch? The size seems to indicate how much you care? You sure have big feelings about Imperium and none about Maxwell. Also Heartless is beautiful. (we like art ok)

people didn't ask us enough questions

[Heartless]

it's just as i suspsected

spiffeh is actually a red pepper and a twig of holly dropped into some coffee grounds

[Heartless]

i think tth is especially and irrationally gunshy about calling cary on going back on spiffeh bc that's what she pushed as scum in kings landing and cary is nowhere close to moving from overall null and the spiffeh progression is indeed not accounted for in cary's posting. a playful slap at mastina with "paranoia" doesn't come off as town to me either

but i guess i better shut up before the harpies arrive to shriek about hydra dissonance so pbpbpbpbpbbppbptptbpptbpptbpt

[Heartless]

Not off the top of my head, but it is basically ALWAYS discussed when someone claims negative utility so the perception that it could happen is enough that a lot of scum won't do it. Either way, I think it's much more likely that mastina claimed negative utility because mastina is negative utility than any kind of tinfoil theory that it benefits scum. If mastina is scum, the claim is probably because of something actually related to mastina's real role.

ok... has it ever occurred to you that the reason you haven't ever actually SEEN it is bc it's not actually based on anything real?

in md ppl talk about how vigs should shoot lurkers but the overwhelming majority of the time in practice, vigs shoot their scumreads (and why wouldn't they? you draw vig rarely what's the fun in just taking a flamethrower to lurkers?)

but ok that's kind of tangential to the point. you think it was THAT tinfoil that you think only scum would question mastina's claim?

i don't (and in fact i think the opposite)

[Heartless]

VOTE: maxwell

[VNB National Plan]

Excuse me when I'm a vig I shoot scum or Katsuki which is just as good as shooting scum in any circumstance

[Spiffeh]

Catching up and posting "content" so people can stop acting like that's a valid reason to vote park me

[camn]

Lets see it, hotshot.

[Spiffeh]

haven't rly thought anything of it

why does that matter?

Because Tammy being disengaged from the game will ALWAYS be the biggest and most accurate reason to scum read Imperium

Life advice

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh, me putting you on the bottom of the list doesn't mean that you're my strongest scumread; in fact, it meant that you were the last person who I thought to place in that group. I thought that you actively doing nothing at that point (whether you were aware of it or not) was a line you'd be more likely to take as scum over town, but the biggest reason I put you on that list was so Tammy would look at you specifically since it's not like I have any real capacity to read you.

Ok

[Spiffeh]

Spiffeh votes are lazy. Have the Spiffeh voters actually played with Spiffy before? He is really easy for scum to wagon by existing

I've literally been mislynched in mafia like 4-5 times ever (and once as scum!) so this couldn't be further from the truth

What gives you the impression that I'm mislynch bait?