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This is pretty much why my vote stayedIn post 95, SunChild wrote:Raya's seems incongruous too. Spends most of post 79 talking about other things, then jumps on Connorwagon almost as an afterthought because "he seems sheepy." Then unvotes when Flubbernugget tells her to.
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This is actually an interesting post. I don't think Transcend realized he's giving himself a free pass thoIn post 40, ConnorJC wrote:
Funny, that's how I'd describe your posts.In post 25, Transcend wrote:12 is a tryhard post it's too much effort too early on- Flubbernugget
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Were you not discrediting efforts when you dismissed people as try hards?
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4th on the wagon was a scumtell from the old MS days to my knowledgeIn post 55, EchoVision wrote:
it's called RVS it's what we do hereIn post 50, SunChild wrote:Don't like Sesq's 8, either. Fourth vote with no comment.
I thought players that were new to this forum had to partake in at least one newbie game before going into other queues just so that they got used to site meta and shit even if they've played the game before but guess not grr hiss growl- Flubbernugget
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You seem to have very little confidence in this vote and the day is youngIn post 193, Sesq wrote:i think bombcat has the "lol xd!" factor going
if sunchild is not an alt then
yeah imma vote because without the noob justification this play is total ass. maybe its just bad meta tho???? damn....
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Yeah what I meant and what I said were completely different.In post 204, Sesq wrote:
and the sky is blueIn post 202, Flubbernugget wrote:
You seem to have very little confidence in this vote and the day is youngIn post 193, Sesq wrote:i think bombcat has the "lol xd!" factor going
if sunchild is not an alt then
yeah imma vote because without the noob justification this play is total ass. maybe its just bad meta tho???? damn....
VOTE: SunChild for. now. smh
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Yes, but my scum read is admittedly pretty MehIn post 209, SunChild wrote:@Flubbernugget, do you really feel that Raya scummiest person in the game?- Flubbernugget
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LiesIn post 216, EchoVision wrote:yeah trans!scum wouldn't say something along the lines of "Lynch sun" so obviously in every post
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Not reallyIn post 267, Fenraiser wrote:
What about Raya? Has your stance on Raya changed?In post 264, Flubbernugget wrote:I think I'm going to vote wave mode- Flubbernugget
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-> Discrediting meta dive strictly for play style, and then saying you shouldn't read off of good/bad playIn post 299, wavemode wrote:Sun is most likely to be scum here, that much is clear. He doesn't really have reads, he just has insults. Yes, we know Transcend is acting like a fool. But give us more than that. (I didn't really bother reading through his meta dive since meta is stupid and just feeds confirmation bias.) His scumread on EchoVision similarly hinges entirely on insulting his play rather than pointing out things that actual scum would be trying to do in a game like this. Furthermore, his pushes on Trans and Echo make perfect sense. In his own post, he expresses confusion as to why we aren't voting Trans. He thought Trans and Echo were safe places to attach non-sheepy votes because he expected to get more support, because of how ridiculously they’re playing ( no offense, guys <3 ).
Even looking orthogonal to this, Sun’s play in general has been awful. Meaningless shade thrown left and right and confirmation bias in the extreme. He also seems to have started the game with some joke posts then lost all sense of humor by page 3, lol. His anger feels forced. If it’s not… lighten up buddy, it’s just a game.
-> Second paragraph scum reads Sun's bad play
-> Trans and Echo votes are both safe votes yet also make perfect sense
-> Sun trying to get his desired lynch through is framed as confusion as to why people aren't voting for it
Also there's nothing really in here to have to have waited to make a post for- Flubbernugget
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People keep criticizing Sun's solicitations to join the Transcend wagon and I don't get why.In post 308, GameNBurger wrote:In post 278, Flubbernugget wrote:You gotta get your lynch through somehow
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So you're not freaking out, you're just freaking out with prettier wordsIn post 341, wavemode wrote:
Mm, "freaking out" is kind of the wrong characterization here (also, that's kind of juvenile shade to throw). More like, emboldened. I can smell the blood of scum, crying out against the lynch.In post 339, Flubbernugget wrote:Dude has an "army" of two votes against him and he's freaking out
I actually very much doubt you guys will gather enough votes to lynch me here. Your cases are nitpicky and opportunistic, and I don't think we're playing with lots of newbies at the moment. And even if you do lynch me, when I flip town all will come to light sooo... you're fucked. Whoever "you" is. Still not sure of Sun's partners tbh. Game looks very good for it but so do you and Sesq.
If we're not going to get enough votes to lynch you then you're by your own admission wasting time addressing the cases on you- Flubbernugget
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Connor, I have already explained why wavelength's paradigm around one read is a good scum play. He can "reevaluate" his reads tomorrow assuming a mislynch, and town will probably give it a free pass because he's "committed" to that one read.
Sesq, if wavelength already explained his case on Sun, why are you asking him to convince you to vote Sun? What did you expect to change?- Flubbernugget
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No. It's not.In post 468, GameNBurger wrote:I mean it's better than silence from his end
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Can you do something else too?In post 478, jjh927 wrote:Well, for some reason hardly anyone seems willing to vote Bomb, which means I need to actually engage with him because nobody else is going to.- Flubbernugget
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I have explained both. I will repeat later.
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There is not much more to do in this game right now than to fight with wavemode or convince town to policy lynch bombcat.In post 535, ConnorJC wrote:I'm starting to really not like flubber's play. His reads are oportunistic, and he seems to be holding back analysis. His last post that contained detailed analysis was 316, and we're nearing double that post number now.
Between 316, and the post I'm quoting now, the majority of your play (if not all of it) is arguing with wavemode. This is wasted time.- Flubbernugget
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It's not AI, but it makes you a policy lynch at worst.In post 530, wavemode wrote:Is fisking AI?
Also, I don't particularly recall fisking anyone... though I remember you fisked my sun read and I responded to each of your points to clarify my position.
If you think the way I bulleted my points is fisking and not the way your responded to them, you need to reread what I explained it to be.- Flubbernugget
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Egg, I didn't vote for wave because I hadn't fully read the thread yet. I don't think there was enough happening between my claim to vote and my actual vote for you to be judging it in good faith.
At the time of me claiming wave was wasting time by addressing my case, he didn't seem to be forwarding a read on me.
I currently have three scum reads that I have expressed to some extent or another. I have town games where I have done much less. I think I'm getting downed out by shitposting/spam posting between Bombcat,jjh, and wave(ish).
You seem to have said a lot about wave, but you make few if any conclusions that he is town from it.- Flubbernugget
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Honestly, the more I look at this, the more I don't like it.In post 547, Egg wrote:Reads, town on top, scum on bottom:
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Surely the more posts someone has the more detailed the responses to them can be?In post 633, wavemode wrote:pewpew you shoot, I dodge
You use very high level analysis when you feel like it but use very shallow, low level analysis when you feel like it. You're a perplexing player that's for sure- Flubbernugget
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I have always limited the scope of what I say to be 100% precise and accurate as demonstrated by this post.In post 642, bombcat wrote:
and i think that your commentary is more telling of your own biases against certain types of people than of anything that has to do with figuring out the game. i have made plenty of serious postsIn post 637, Flubbernugget wrote:I'm still not convinced that Bombcat is doing anything more than trolling. And I think how people react to him is more telling than his own actions.- Flubbernugget
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Sometimes you have to repeat yourself to be heard. I have posted why I think jjh is scum.In post 671, wavemode wrote:This comment ^ is entirely redundant - you've already said several times that you think jjh is scum. I point that out because it's strange for you to be pushing this hard and repeating yourself that we should kill jjh, yet have never actually presented any case against jjh. Why should we just take your word for it that he's scum?- Flubbernugget
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I should have been more explicit that I find this to be scummy. It's easy to tunnel on a shitposter and then do nothing else as scumIn post 454, Flubbernugget wrote:jjh, I expect more than a Bombcat scum read out of you.- Flubbernugget
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