Mini 1936: Yume's Cutsie U-Pick (Town Win!)

[Yume]

Hi Dio.

[Yume]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Guilty until proven innocent.

[Yume]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Guilty until proven innocent.

VOTE: Yume
Attempting to instill a dangerously corrupt justice system.

[Yume]

My internet is unstable, so a soft V/LA till is stabilizes.

[Yume]

Sorry Ari!

Ruby! We can worry about Ruby later.

- Scott

Actually, I am Paddy now.

[Yume]

I am guessing that WC are Sapphire.

[Yume]

I am more inclined to believe Centi than I am to believe Army.

[Yume]

So my vote stays.

[Yume]

Ruby is me, I think.

[Yume]

VOTE: Virtuoso

Anything to say regarding as to why your predecessor shot town?

[Yume]

Also, whoever did that, indicate as such. You know what you did.

[Yume]

Rise up, rise up, Nebby
Let's pressure dis ^

[Yume]

Pontius Pilate?

King David?

The Almighty?

True Colors?

Adam and Eve?

The Serpent?

[Yume]

Alexander Hamilton?

Aaron Burr?

Jessica Alba?

Florence Nightingale?

Father Brown?

Joan of Arc?

[Yume]

I'm searching for the phrase.

[Yume]

VOTE: Yume
Reasons

Wai?

[Yume]

I already voted Virtue.

o la la?

[Yume]

Oh, I see.

[Yume]

So yeah, Var-Var sent me a picture, and a one-shot ability, but I don't know what it does.

[Yume]

If I understand it right, Var-Var wants me to TC him.

[Yume]

Everyone I like is getting force-replaced....

[Yume]

Do it.
Also, R&R, if you're an IC, please clear yourself now.

Can't right now, it's night-only.

[Yume]

I'll say this: I'm an one-shot BP. I will say no more.

[Yume]

@Dio Why you trying to find out what you shouldn't be trying to find out?

[Yume]

@Var -Var It's a picture of a horse and some lines written in Korean.

@Nebby True, but I never said I'd do exactly as they tell me. :S

Besides, if you kill me now, it would be the end of the game's purpose as well.

[Yume]

*Paddy cracks in two*

p-edit: Nebby is he-who-always-gets-a-killing-role.

[Yume]

@RR What's your read on me?

[Yume]

@Mod I also voted Virtuoso in 566

[Yume]

No, that was @other RR.

[Yume]

So, the day is over?

Dio, don't bomb me tonight.

Give me a chance to clear us.

[Yume]

I am confirmed town now.

[Yume]

Var-Var can vouch.

[Yume]

I don't know about that second one, but I'll trust you for now.

So the only ones unconfirmed are Fire, Nebby, gerry and Ratty.

[Yume]

Yeah.

VOTE: Gerry

[Yume]

Paddy is confirmed town to me.
I am confirmed town to Paddy.
I am also confirmed town to Sapphy.
Sapphy is confirmed town to me, as well.

We all three can confirm.

@Fire Really?

[Yume]

VOTE: Fire

Why ignoring the obvious confirmation?

[Yume]

You said the same about Centipeetle. You were wrong then and you are probably wrong now. You are also probably town, so I will ignore you until I learn otherwise.

I made a promise not to go all banshee on you and I gonna keep it.

[Yume]

So the way we're doing this is we lynch the guilty
and then we lynch one of the "masons"
unless the guilty is in the masons.

Me and Var-Var are pseudo-masons
Var-Var and Sapphy are masons.

So lynch in which pair of masons?

[Yume]

Let's kill the redirector. Can you find out who it is, Nebby?

[Yume]

Sapphy is confirmed town via Var-Var, so unless you think Var-Var is lyin' too, that can't be it.

[Yume]

Nah I was thinking the ones that fakeclaimed mason D1

mybad.

Sapphy is one of those. :O

[Yume]

Fire's new nickname is Doubting Thomas.

[Yume]

If you and Sapphy are both confirmed to each other, then you are masons. That's the definition of masons.

[Yume]

I mean, I say we lynch Gerry regardless, because I wouldn't be beyond claiming a cop guilty on a scum buddy to coast it to wingame
but that's just me.

Yeah.

And Fire, don't even think of lynching my sista.

[Yume]

If you do, Paddy will act on your body tonight. Right Paddy?

Paddy: I predict he had it coming, he had it coming, he only had himself to blame, if you've been in there, if you had seen it, I betcha you would've done the same.

[Yume]

If Dioscuri is ur sister.
I am lynching them.

Nebby is my sista, and my brotha.

[Yume]

Nebby is also a dragon, one way cooler than ya.

Spoiler:

[Yume]

Wait. Hold the phone. You think this setup is unbalanced because of our roles, and suddenly you have a triple vote? Yeah, I don't buy that.

[Yume]

Yeah, but then there are dragons made of ice. Like a great dragon behemoth of Scandinavia. When it flaps its wings, it creates powerful snowstorms.

p-edit: Yeah, try to convince someone else of dat.

[Yume]

G;night all, and don't listen to D.T. He is Scummerson (TM)

[Yume]

VOTE: Firebringer

because of last day

[Yume]

Hey Fire, you have but one vote on you, so why are you suddenly in a tizzy?

[Yume]

Whatever.

[Yume]

If you think I'm not playing, you are wrong. And it sounds about right that you are scum, because one of the 'people who are playing' said so, namely that scum have to try and undermine conftown, which is exactly what you've doing yesterday and today as well.

Besides, if you were the one who was given True Colors, you'd be singing a different tune right about now. Though I doubt you would have, cos True Colors only work on town.

Typical scumtitude from my experience, especially since whenever I was town, I inevitably died. The fact that I hadn't yet is further proof you are scum.

After all, I seem to recall you saying 'I would never kill Yume as scum'. Twice.

[Yume]

I can't catch them, they say, and even when I do, they dismiss is as being 'for the wrong reasons'. Smh.....

[Yume]

Vote Fire, partner. He won't ignore your vote.

[Yume]

After all, I seem to recall you saying 'I would never kill Yume as scum'. Twice.

I would never kill you.
I see no reason anyone would kill you.

Tell that to SirCakez who took over my slot as Shireen in one game. Tell it to RR who died for being an IC in this very game. Tell it to my old self, who died at least once while being an IC. Tell it to my teacher, who died in SU2 for being an IC.

[Yume]

No, I am not. All of those people were ICs and all of them died at the hands of scum. I am conftown. Sapphi is too. Ergo, scum can and will kill me or Sapphi. Sure, you yourself won't kill me but that doesn't mean other people won't.

And no, I am not the one who caused all those deaths. That credit goes to scum, who did.

Are you that dense or are you just doing this to annoy me?

p-edit: Nah, if they left me alone, they would have lost, because I sheeped Centi, remember? Therefore, despite the dissent, if I was around, she would have gotten the final vote she needed to lynch the last scum.

[Yume]

Ha, you are the one to talk, considering you are pretending that me and Var-Var and Sapphi aren't confirmed town.

[Yume]

@WC I won't be unvoting, for I sincerely believe this is scum. If you think I should, tell me why.

[Yume]

And Fire, if you really believe me and Sapphi and Var-Var aren't confirmed town, explain why we are not.

[Yume]

Also,

@The Awesome Duo If you are seeing this, sorry, but I don't think I can keep the promise, especially considering he isn't honoring your request.

[Yume]

Because he outright denies we three are confirmed town, and like your PT partner said, scum have to undermine conftown cos they would lose otherwise.

[Yume]

Varsoon

is a loud inventor and I am a passive delayed tracker. That's all I know about claims.

Your first as well.

[Yume]

Var-Var is a loud inventor and I am a passive delayed tracker. That's all I know about claims.

Oopsie.

[Yume]

I have a secret.

[Yume]

They were modkilled.

[Yume]

Let me play devil's advocate for a sec: they did mislynch town and I didn't see them apologizing for coming to the wrong conclusion, like they said they do when town.

[Yume]

It's the other head you want to be playing Devil's Advocate with, not me. I don't townread that slot in any way shape or form.

Which slot? WC?

[Yume]

I receive bulletproof last night from Var-Var. It's passive, and permanent.

I too am gonna take a nap.

[Yume]

I am p sure my confirmation is a result of my ability as given to me by Var-Var.

[Yume]

It's not a lie. >.<

[Yume]

And I've had enough of you Thomas. So drop it or Paddy will go into her PT and stay there. >.<

[Yume]

You're the one lying.

[Yume]

I have no reason to lie, but Thomas' slot has plenty, like discrediting me. >.<

[Yume]

Mai reads

Town: The Crystal Gem Trio
Town lean: Centi hydra, gerry
Null: King
Scummy: Thomas, RR

Going to take a nap now.

[Yume]

You didn't busdrive us. If you did, I wouldn't have received the gift, which I did, as both me and Var-Var know. Therefore, either something is skewy, or you are lying, and the simplest solution is that you are lying. Therefore, you are lying. Therefore, you are scum.

[Yume]

Anyone around?

[Yume]

^^

[Yume]

Tell me how was I able to receive the gift if you busdrove us?

[Yume]

That's not what your predeccessor said. He accused us both of lying and insisted he couldn't have been roleblocked because he never hinted he had a powerful role.

[Yume]

Plus, you were trying to cast doubt on our triple conftown status just now.

[Yume]

And like Centi hydra said, scum win if they lynch your town-self today, so why aren't they doing so?

[Yume]

Yes, I do. He could be a valid target in normal circumstances, but he won't be roleblocked before Centi or Sapphi or Var-Var.

[Yume]

Besides, I only remember playing with him in two games, SU2 and here, and i both of those games he heavily doubcasted confirmed town even when facts were laid out there. I don't see that as competent in anyway.

[Yume]

I mean, I am not competent either, cos this game wouldn't exist if I were, but even if I am, it's pretty obvious that your argument is a load of baloney built upon a pile of excuses, and you both know this.

[Yume]

Also, you keep dodging these

Plus, you were trying to cast doubt on our triple conftown status just now.

And like Centi hydra said, scum win if they lynch your town-self today, so why aren't they doing so?

and not just now either, you aso did earlier when Centi hydra asked you the very same questions. Now why are you dodging these? If you aren't scum, you should be able to explain them easily.

[Yume]

Yes, explain them both.

[Yume]

So by your logic, Var-Var, Sapphi and I aren't conftown to you despite triple/quadruple confirmation going on?

p-edit: That makes no sense. Why would scum target unconfirmed town with the kill, thereby wasting their mislynch?

Besides, Var-Var wouldn't target you. He made it clear to me that he wants me to have all the good stuff.

[Yume]

And even if he and I were busdriven, he would have targeted Sapphi, not you.

[Yume]

And I seem to recall you wanted to doubcast us too. Only when the mod left you with you no loopholes did you start to believe us.

[Yume]

Sapphi, be the hero, and hammer.

[Yume]

But sure, doubcast everyone, see where that gets you.

[Yume]

And even if we suppose you are telling the truth, why did you target both of us instead of targeting one of us and one of the unconfirmeds?

[Yume]

I was given a deathproof too, or did you skip that part? Also he clearly says he busdrove me and Var-Var, not me and you.

[Yume]

No, it's because scum refuse to lynch their buddy.

[Yume]

Again, got any proof that we aren't conftown other than standard scum doubtcasting?

[Yume]

Since Var-Var gave it to me.

[Yume]

Like, I said that multiple times, so if you don't even know that, then I will not trust anything you say about Fires slot or anyone else's slot. You and Fire are scum. GG.

[Yume]

Like, you are trying to paint me as a liar here. You can;t kill me, so you have to have me lynched somehow.

[Yume]

You both die. If you aren't lynched, I'll compel Var-Var to give me a vig to use on you. Good game.

[Yume]

We're the Crystal Gems,
We'll always save the day
And if you think we can't
We'll always find the way
That's why we'll expose
Your fake stories
Var-Var and Paddy and Centi
And Sapphire

[Yume]

But Lumberjacks claimed to deflect anything on you onto me.

We've only been deflecting from sapphire and Varsity

Why only them and not me too? I am also a conftown of sorts.

[Yume]

Okay then.......

[Yume]

I am invisible, I guess.

[Yume]

And so are my questions/thoughts.

[Yume]

Then do so.

[Yume]

Mine is orange.

[Yume]

Yeah, he said that Var-Var gave it to him, and when Var-Var said he didn't, he started questioning Var-Var. Suspicious.

[Yume]

I can go there if everyone promises to lynch Fire slot tomorrow no matter what.

[Yume]

Okay, but the simplest explanation is that you are scum. Everyone knows this.

VOTE: RR

Sorry Var-Var, but I ain't gonna let them doubting conftown with lame excuses slide here.

[Yume]

I give you one more chance: why did you start questioning Var-Var the moment he claimed he gave it to me and not to you?

[Yume]

It's been three days. I kinda find it hard to believe he wasn't online at all, unless he is V/LA. :O

[Yume]

I give you one more chance: why did you start questioning Var-Var the moment he claimed he gave it to me and not to you?

^So it doesn't get lost.

[Yume]

Okay, but how are your chances better if bussing? You are up against three conftown (four if Centi hydra is telling the truth). You need strength in numbers to be able to win in this scenario.

[Yume]

Bussing against three conftown is gonna end in a big fat loss if you are scum. I speak from experience.

[Yume]

It is my belief that optimal play would be for scum to bus here.

I do have a very particular strategy in mind, but if it's all the same to you I'd prefer not to discuss it in the open like this. Get a neighborizer from Varsity Bassoon and hit me up that way if you want to hear the details.

Bussing against three conftown is gonna end in a big fat loss if you are scum. I speak from experience.

[Yume]

And no, I already made up my mind and asked Var-Var for a vig so we can find out if you are scum or not. Don't like it? Then stop questioning conftown and lynch Fire slot already.

[Yume]

They can roleblock me, though. And, I do have a way already, a way which doesn't require me neighborizing you.

[Yume]

Maybe a public daycop? That can't be rbed during the night.

[Yume]

Or Sapphi can try to masonize you. If he fails, you are scum. If he succeeds, you are town.

[Yume]

I'll get the vig and if he fails, I will shoot, if he doesn't, I will hold. I will know via chain.

[Yume]

Oh, wait, his was one shot.

[Yume]

Either way, you are scum, cos town has no reason to question conftown, no matter what they believe.

[Yume]

Either way, I am not talking anymore. I am not gonna convince you that you're scum and I've put all of my thoughts out there.

[Yume]

In this case it does. Because there are three conftown, it limits the number of people who are scum.

From your POV:

- Shiro is jester
- Vaxkiller is town
- You are town
- WC is scum

Me, Sapphi and Var-Var are town. So let's think about your logic for a second. By your logic, there is only one scum - WC - which is impossible cos the games usually contain 2 or more scum. So who is the second scum?

[Yume]

Just because he was roleblocked doesn't make you two innocent. For all we know, you are the roleblocker who roleblocked him so you can make this argument and gain towncred. That also could explain why there was no kill last night: you couldn't kill and use an action on the same night.

[Yume]

Also, regarding bussing, read this game and then tell me bussing is still optimal in the current gamestate: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=71471

[Yume]

Apart from me using the gift on Var-Var and Sapphi masonizing Var-Var, no.

[Yume]

You've been my scumreads since you started shading us, and scum by PoE since this day started. You can't expect to magically convince me you are both town.

[Yume]

Either Shiroro is crazy scum instead of Jester, or that'd leave Gerry as the other by PoE. Or both.

Also WHY would I roleblock my scum partner? And how exactly would I get towncred from doing so? What could possibly make that a better choice than just killing someone?

And lastly.... When did I shade you exactly? Vax yeah, but I haven't done anything to suggest you were scum. Just that you're wrong.

So why are you defending him? You admitted he shaded conftown, so why do you think town would do that?

[Yume]

Also, you questioned us, all three of us. You are doing it in order to find a gap in our conftown status.

[Yume]

Also, you questioned us, all three of us. You are doing it in order to find a gap in our conftown status.

If I wanted to push a lynch on any of you, I'd just do it.

All I want right now is to know what everyone is and what everyone did last night so I can figure out how to read Vax and hopefully make a decision that won't get us endgamed. Is that alright with you?

No, because each time someone said they'll make the decision, they've been scum. I don't trust you and I won't. You think Vax is town? Then die for your belief.

[Yume]

From my POV, only you two could possibly be scum.

[Yume]

Why else do you defend Fire slot so badly then?

[Yume]

Like, you refuse to give me a straight answer and instead choose to repeat the same old excuses. Wth am I supposed to think?

[Yume]

Okay, I get it. Shading all three conftown apparently isn't enough and he'd have to kill one of us for you to remotely consider him scum, amirite?. There is only one problem with that: If you let him go and he kills one of us, the GAME WOULD BE OVER, as you you yourself have pointed out.

[Yume]

You still haven't explained how and why SHADING ALL THREE CONFTOWN is a town thought process. Unless you can explain it adequately, then the simplest explanation says you are both flailing scum. Case closed.

[Yume]

And the fact that there's consistency doesn't mean they can't be maintaining a lie. You said you'd lynch them if they are lying, but since you believe them 100%, there is no way for us to prove to you that they are actually lying.

[Yume]

How? Well, scum have to mislynch town, otherwise they'll never win. That simple.

[Yume]

Furthemore, you insist that bussing is viable despite me linking the game where it led to a loss. Why? Because you have to.

p-edit: lol no, not gonna let a player in scum PoE pool in any 'gamesolving' position. Sapphi, Var-Var and me are solving it, not you.

[Yume]

And we'll be solving it with the vigs. Targets will be decided via a private channel.



p-edit: Because distancing. Also, why did you discount Vaxkiller? He is not conftown.

p-edit2: Yeah, let's. As you yourself said, conftown aren't always right, so what makes you think you are better at solving the game than Crystal Gems?

[Yume]

Of course you do. The only problem is scum would also say 'I am town'.

[Yume]

All you gave me as the reason why he is town is 'becuz he is desperate blah blah blah' rather than anything substantial. To me, that looks like an excuse.

[Yume]

Then lynch Vax. You are ignoring the simpler solution - that he shaded us because he is scum, period - in favor of a more complicated one.

[Yume]

I will not have another loss because of stubborn people, not in this game, and all you're doing here is getting in the way.

[Yume]

I know how this will go. You'll let paranoia and stubborness cause yet another loss and then shift blame everywhere else. :/

[Yume]

If you really want to work with me, then don't drive me insane.

p-edit: Yeah, you believe my experience now, but you don't when it comes to game-relevant things. :/

[Yume]

All you gave me as the reason why he is town is 'becuz he is desperate blah blah blah' rather than anything substantial. To me, that looks like an excuse.

Yes. His behavior makes sense for a Town player in his situation. It making sense doesn't mean I agree with it though.
But it does NOT make sense for a Scum player in his situation.
All he really had to do was claim different targets from Growlithe and drop the issue. No one would blink an eye at Growlithe lying about his role and/or targets, because he does that all the time.

Instead he chose to fight a mason group. It just doesn't make sense.

It does. Scum are cornered by PoE. Even if he is lynched for it, planting the seeds of doubt regarding our conftown status helps his partner(s) in the long run.

[Yume]

I am still not letting you be town leader. The last time a non-conftown lead town, they caused my faction's loss single-handedly. That player was in this game. Say 'hi' to your counteRRpart when you die. :bb

[Yume]

This game was nice until you got rid of all the people I enjoyed playing with. :/

[Yume]

And how do you plan to be sure? Do you really believe some sort of magical proof will crop up that will magically convince you when the given word of 2/3 conftown didn't?

[Yume]

And how do you plan to be sure? Do you really believe some sort of magical proof will crop up that will magically convince you when the given word of 2/3 conftown and common sense didn't?

Cos it won't.

[Yume]

Besides, you are so deadset on Vaxxy being town that even if one of Crystal Gems comes out with a cop guilty, you'll still insist he is town.

[Yume]

Maybe because he is your partner and you are desperate to protect him?

[Yume]

If you insist that all three of us are scum/wrong, then get rid of us so we don't get in the way of your 100% true reasoning, k?

[Yume]

If you are willing to bet the win on Vaxxy being 100% town, then who are we to interfere with that?

[Yume]

VOTE: Vaxxy

I'll return too.

[Yume]

He was a player but got force-replaced.

[Yume]

Also, check the PT, Var-Var.

[Yume]

I am p sure my confirmation is a result of my ability as given to me by Var-Var.

[Yume]

So unless Var-Var giving me fn and bp was influenced by you, you have nothing to do with that part.

(Sorry, I am kinda cranky today, don't take this personally)

[Yume]

Well, I received a friendly neighbor neighborizer type role from Var-Var, 1-shot, and used it to start a neighborhood with him. It's the same role Centi had in SU2. Isn't that right, Centi?

[Yume]

Like, it seems RR and you have both been ignoring anything I said up till now unless you could nitpick the hell out of it, otherwise you would have known I had a PT with Var-Var ages ago, yet you only notice this now.

[Yume]

Like, it seems RR and you have both been ignoring anything I said up till now unless you could nitpick the hell out of it, otherwise you would have known I had a PT with Var-Var ages ago, yet you only notice this now.

Why am I being included in this?
I never questioned your PT, and this is the only day phase that's even been long enough to address (most of) what I wanted to.

I get that you scumread me, but don't just tack my name onto other peoples' mistakes please.

Because you have been ignoring stuff. You asked 'how come you are deathproof' when I stated how and why multiple times.

[Yume]

BP.

[Yume]

But also DP, since as conftown, it would be hard to lynch me.

[Yume]

Unless you wanted to catch me in a lie, no, since I am technically deathproof as well (due to being conftown I can't be lynched and due to BP I can't be killed)

[Yume]

Why? So you know who to kill and not to kill?

[Yume]

Really? You lecture me on confbias when you are confbiased yourself. Your refusal to believe Vaxxy is scum no matter what sure counts as one. I mean, when all three conftown say he is scum and you still refuse to believe them, then guess what? It's bias.

[Yume]

And even if you can't kill me/are town, questioning in this direction still helps out the scum because it helps them coordinate which targets can't be killed and target those that can be.

[Yume]

From by experience, if there is a conftown, sheep the hell out of them even if you think otherwise. If you do not, scum can and will manipulate you.

[Yume]

Because they can whittle down the viable kill pool by taking those unable to be killed out of it?

But you clearly aren't listening, so....

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r--0c1abc1o[/youtube]

Yume out.

[Yume]

And I recently lost the game because people were too stupid and refused to sheep conftown in favor of their own opinion.

[Yume]

Also, guess what? There is no way for you to be sure whether Vaxxy is scum or not unless you lynch him. True, there could be a way via massclaim, but the things YOU draw from it will be YOUR opinion, not a fact. Whereas Vaxxy and you being among the PoE pool is a fact.

[Yume]

Okay then, but if we lose again, you are to buy an extra large pizza for me and Var-Var.

[Yume]

Yeah sure, you are the smart cookie, smarter then the likes of the rest of us combined. Enjoy your moment, cos it will come and bite you later.....

[Yume]

Ftr, I still think you are not town, but I can tell I am fighting a losing battle here.

[Yume]

@TWC Just curious, why did you ignore these?

I am p sure my confirmation is a result of my ability as given to me by Var-Var.

So unless Var-Var giving me fn and bp was influenced by you, you have nothing to do with that part.

(Sorry, I am kinda cranky today, don't take this personally)

[Yume]

Oh I get it, a touchy subject for you. Well, I'll stop.

[Yume]

@TWC Please answer me......

[Yume]

Fine. I guess I won't receive even a little credit for my own action. D:

[Yume]

@TWC WHY ARE YOU IGNORING MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS?

[Yume]

pls?

[Yume]

It's the only thing I did right, so I don't appreciate you taking all the credit for that one.

[Yume]

Yes.

[Yume]

Tbh, I am tired of all of this. If this were a different game, I would have left a long time ago, but as it is, I feel I need to stay.

[Yume]

Not yet.

Follow the money and see where it leads.

Phoenix: Radical Rat

Follow the money and see where it goes.

[Yume]

Then again, if TWC was indeed deflecting, then Sapphi shouldn't have died.

[Yume]

I'm willing

VOTE: TWC

[Yume]

We got two out of three and two confirmed town still, so even if these are wrong, the game is a win.

[Yume]

It is supposed to be a cop.

[Yume]

He isn't a cop. He said that in the hood.

[Yume]

Okay then

VOTE: Shiro

p-edit: I dunno, but as of last night, I am the one with the cop shot, as activated above.

[Yume]

My original role is useless. It's a tracker only tracks people who were nighkilled and learn where they went on previous night (eg.if I target them N3, I receive where they went on N2). That's why it's useless. The only worthwhile info it gave is that Army went nowhere on N2.

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VOTE: TWC

May I ask why?

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Why? As pointed out before, their counterclaim of RR sounds genuine given RR's flip, so you'll need more than that. :s

p-edit: Yeah, I have my doubts, that's why I copped him, but what I will do with him depends on the results I get.

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When Ari gets on. Also, you don't have anything tangible to justify why TWC is scum, do you?

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VOTE: gerry

He backed off as soon as I called him out.

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Maybe, maybe not, but until it is, I have to rely on my experience, and it says gerry is scum.