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Gonna go page by page. If that annoys you, too bad. It's more for me than you anyway.
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ConnorJC would definitely get my game-starter vote. The way he says he's bad at mafia feels like an excuse to write off anything scummy he does.
I like transcend for town for now but we'll see.
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Raya is probtown for the flubber vote. Post 37 feels town too.
I like wave's questioning of transcend as coming from town. Connor's sheeping without saying he's sheeping and lack of a vote to back it up, not so much.Wave, why'd you vote transcend?<- never mind, you just probably aren't familiar with transcend.
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I know I'm scumreading connor myself, but sesq's vote needs explanation because if I'm wrong there's a good chance sesq is scum instead. Also holy shit that wagon is moving fast.
Town read on raya is weakening after the connor vote and quick unvote. Still leaning town, just not as sure especially if connor is town.
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He either changes his mind or stops trying so quickly that it doesn't really matter.sun wrote:People who've played with him, is Transcend usually this wrong this quickly?
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If connor is scum, 115 sounds like something someone would say about a buddy, so I'll look at sun in that case. 116 is a good point about echo though.
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Remember when I said connor's post sounded like an excuse for scummy play? Yeah this is the town version of that. The difference is that echo offers himself up as a lynch which lacks the basic survivalism scum tend to show. Connor's post was the exact opposite and came off very "don't lynch me lol". So yeah, echo can be town.echo wrote: I'd much rather Trans stay alive for the sake of the town as he's a much better player than I am
A lot of connor vs echo on this page isn't alignment indicitive because it's obvious they just don't see mafia the same way. You could probably say the same about sun vs transcend to a lesser extent.
Really don't like connor discrediting echo's response as ad hom and dismissing though. I felt like echo's points did a good job of addressing connor's concerns. The "calm down" comment also feels off too because it gives off the impression that echo was flailing and defensive and I didn't see any of that in echo's post.
Sesq feels really detatched on everything except that connor vote. Like she doesn't care at all about finding scum. I really feel like exactly one of connor/sesq isscum here.
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Ugh. If that is sesq's idea of a reads list, she and I are not going to work well together if she actually is town. If she's scum it's fine because we can just lynch her.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the way sun looked up meta on transcend feels like genuine interest in his alignment which would make sun town. I also agree that 2008-09 was the golden age of mafia. Can we go back to that?
Mantichora's spamposting on this page is a lot of posts not saying much, especially the first five. I don't see how transcend got a town read on him at that point.
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Ok, transcend is annoying me now and has stopped obvtowning.
Connor, the difference between sesq and bombcat is that sesq seems to be trying to give off the appearance of actually playing the game and I don't think bombcat gives a shit. It goes back to the survivalism thing I mentioned a minute ago.
Sesq, what about sun's play is "ass"? He seems to be doing fine to me.
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Oh God that vote count hurts my eyes. The only three people with more than one vote on them are my town reads (transcend, sun, echo). Connor and sesq are each on one of the top two wagons. And the two players voting echo are two of the least active in the game.
I'm a little weirded out that flubber hasn't made an impression on me yet. I know he's not usually one of the top posters or anything, but his content is usually pretty straightforward and easy to have an opinion on and I just don't see that here.
Sun, why are/were you townreading mantichora?
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This page is pretty much all echo spam, holy fuck. This is why mafia in 2017 sucks.
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I don't like flubber saying he's going to vote wave and then waiting a little bit before actually doing it. Why not just vote him in 264?
Wtf game stole my ketchup style (even though he technically did it first). Putting it all in one post is better though. I'm surprised to see his vote land on transcend. He seemed unsure on that read. I expected a wave vote. Otherwise, that stretch of posts looked pretty good.
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I don't like that jjh apparently caught up, but didn't immediately give any thoughts except that bombcat hadn't been voted yet.
I saw connor's early posts and the disappearing wagon act and expected to end up bitching later about the wagon being gone, but he actually does get better. Consider him a weaker scum read now than he was before.
Wave, your wall in 299 shows some pretty decent logic, but only if you are right about sun. All of your other reads seem to hinge on him being scum. That makes it ironic that one of your points against him involved confirmation bias.
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Connor pointing out what I saw in wave's post interests me. I might have to 180 this read to a town one.
Wave, you're getting pushback from three players (four if you count me coming in later) for your post on sun. If sun is scum, only two of those players can possibly be scum and that even assumes the entire scum team would defend each other openly. Maybe the issue actually IS your case.
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I hate to use the phrase "town vs town" because that's usually a lazy way to say "I'm not reading this back and forth or picking a side", but wave and game both seem to believe what they are saying to each other and I don't think either of them is scum.
I don't get where flubber sees wave "freaking out". He's done fine addressing the points against him.
Are you suggesting he should ignore you?flubber wrote:If we're not going to get enough votes to lynch you then you're by your own admission wasting time addressing the cases on you
Connor's thoughts on wave's sun case mirror my own. I'm pretty sure wave is convinced sun is scum and is trying to find buddies because that's what you do when you catch scum. Problem is, wave hasn't been proven right by a Sun flip. Yes, it's poor play because it's a premature assumption that he's basing his entire game around. But I don't think he's scum for it.
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I'm cool with bombcat getting some pressure. I was originally reading his not giving a shit attitude as town because it lacks survivalism, but maybe he's just another transcend where he just doesn't care about the games he plays so nothing he says really means anything. Maybe some votes will shake a reaction out of him.
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Raya, I agree with a lot of your town reads, but can you be more specific on flubber? What reasoning did you like and what feels genuine to you?
Sesq's reaction to raya's reasons for scumreading her feels unnaturally hostile. Specifically, calling it "bullshit" and "dumb" feels like sesq is a little too annoyed at some actually valid points.
Jjh, why is sesq town?
Wow. I'm done considering bomb anywhere near town or null after he calls someone out as mason and says they should be NK'd. There is absolutely no reason for town to do that. Scum fishing for masons makes perfect sense. I'll probably end up voting this.
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Jjh, why'd you encourage bombcat on his mason reads thing?
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I don't think he actually saw anything. He's just fishing. Don't take the bait.jjh wrote:Okay, so my running theory is that Bombcat is scum who has assumed I am a mason because I started pushing him instead of the wagons at the time, which were Transcend and Sunchild. My reads having them as null supported his line of thinking there. Now, this means that those two are town.He doesn't want to tell me because he has no reason that wouldn't outright prove his scum perspective.
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Just mason fishing and reactions to the mason fishing and everyone agrees it's bad but doesn't vote bombcat...wtf?
Sesq, what's with the iphone thing? Why do you want his mason reads?
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I actually like flubber's reaction to bombcat. Maybe I was wrong about him.
We're not policy lynching otherwise we'd probably use up all of our lynches on policy. That being said, bombcat is actually scum, not just policy lynchable.
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Wave, that's not a scum slip from echo. That's echo misreading your post.
Echo, what is funny about bomb trying to out our only power roles? You guys can't possibly ALL be scum, holy shit.
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Wave, a policy lynch gives plenty of info because scum love that kind of thing. But we're not going to policy lynch. Or lynch just for info. We're going to try to lynch scum.
Reads, town on top, scum on bottom:
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Gamenburger
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Transcend
Connor
Flubber
Echo
Jjh (not scum with bomb)
Mantichora
Sesq
Bombcat
VOTE: Vote Bombcat
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I definitely wouldn't complain if the day ended in a sesq lynch, but I think bombcat is more dangerous because he's trying to out the masons and people are actually discussing it with him.In post 549, wavemode wrote:MY NAME IS NOT WAVEFORM
And this game is feeling more and more like we will mislynch today...
That said, I do like Fen's grand entrance to the game much more than I liked GameNBurger's. Your analysis has a certain clarity to it and it goes beyond just surface-level observation of things that are already obvious to everyone. Plus you don't want to kill me which is always nice.
You do seem to scumread Sesq. As I've said before, there are likely three scum within the four {Flubbernugget, SunChild, GameNBurger, Sesq}. I'd much rather compromise on a Sesq vote than no-lynching or killing bombcat. Thoughts?
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Sesq, who is 555 directed at because I don't think anyone said bombcat is confirmed scum? 556 is also a bad idea otherwise the masons probably would have claimed by now. Talking about it is maybe worse than the idea itself. If you're town, you could be giving scum info without realizing it. But the one thing I will say is masons give us an even bigger advantage if they stay hidden because let's say we get to 7 players and then they are outted. Now we have 3 confirmed town and 4 unknowns. Odds of lynching scum are much better than if they are the first three kills and just have 7 unknown players. We want the masons around as long as possible.
Game, you're thinking of ATE (appeal to emotion) and it's debatable whether that is scummy or town. It depends on if it's genuine and even if it is genuine it's still debatable. It's only when it's fake that it's definitely scummy. By survivalism, I more mean trying to stay alive in general.
Raya, if you think the case against bombcat is spam, you must have missed him trying to out the masons.
Flubber, if you were still reading that's definitely fair. It's hard to pick that up when everyone hits submit six times in one sitting reading the thread. I can understand waiting until you are done to vote though for sure. Also thought I'd been more clear about townreading wave, so apologies if not. But yeah I do think he is town.- Egg
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I mean when you start things by saying I think we have confirmed scum on day 1 and that logic is the only thing that matters, neither of which is my stance, there isn't much chance at a dialogue about that. Talk to me about bombcat. Do you actually have a read on him? I'd guess town by the way you're defending him but you haven't come right out and said that.In post 571, Sesq wrote:
"well you're wrong"In post 567, Egg wrote:Well I don't think a lot of what you think that I think.
And I've made my point on masons.
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Outting the masons is a pro-scum move. So yes, I think he's scum for trying to do it.In post 573, Sesq wrote:Yeah, but you put him as your top scumread
and that's just really naiive
maybe he is, probably he isnt.
He's fishing for reactions.echo wrote:bombcat isn't trying to out the masons... he said one person was obv mason and probably wasn't even right. it's not like he's mason hunting- Egg
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He's scummy. If I was policy voting, it would be too hard to choose in this game.In post 591, Transcend wrote:Is bomb actually scummy or do you just have an issue with him?
You have people talking about masons. That makes it MUCH easier to tell who is or is not a mason. I'm pretty sure that was your goal. I'm not even trying to figure it out and already know of one person who can't be a mason.bombcat wrote:you're voting me with an excuse instead of a read, there's no way you think i think the masons will out because i called jjh727 a mason
I agree about the OMGUS (at least on me, not sure on jjh). The last bit is interesting and not something I'd have thought of.wave wrote:This vote could be scum motivated. It's pure, self-admitted OMGUS. If it were an isolated incident I wouldn't say anything but he also has an OMGUS scum read on jjh. He could have called jjh a mason so that nobody would think anything about him dying in the night.
Actually that would have been wave at the time I voted. If you were the easiest lynch, I wouldn't be having so much trouble pushing it.bombcat wrote: i am the lowest hanging fruit
You didn't read it then because I re-evaluated a few reads (connor and flubber come to mind) while I was reading and I feel like I made good points against sesq.bombcat wrote:I think egg's post 547 shows effort on a surface level sort of bordering on narrating the game, i don't think he's thinking too hard about anyone's alignment
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Bombcat, nah I found waveform's theory interesting.
Wave, I don't think bombcat would have to be stupid to do something that I hadn't thought of myself.
Sesq, you're making a lot of bad assumptions about the way I think.
Flubber, here you go:egg wrote: I'm pretty sure wave is convinced sun is scum and is trying to find buddies because that's what you do when you catch scum. Problem is, wave hasn't been proven right by a Sun flip. Yes, it's poor play because it's a premature assumption that he's basing his entire game around. But I don't think he's scum for it.- Egg
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Probably because it's something weird and you see that as scummy where I'm actually thinking about why wave would think the way he's thinking. He probably legitimately thinks sun is scum which scum can't do.In post 651, Flubbernugget wrote:Egg, you're town reading what I am scum reading. Not sure what to make of that
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Jjh, why are wave and sesq town vs town?
Vedith, you said jjh and bombcat are both scum. So you think bombcat called his partner a mason? Why? (My own opinion is that exactly one of the two is scum)
I don't like any of jjh's page 29.
Wave's 734 is a good post. If the bomb lynch can't happen, sesq is a good one too. I agree that there's probably enough support to make that happen.
I'd be interested to see jjh's "mega case" on vedith. It would show me his thought process.<-ok he ended up doing it. I find it interesting that you have the problems you do with his entrance if you are familiar with him like you claim to be. The rest is OMGUS, bad meta, and hyperbole. I think you're just trying to make it look good more than you actually believe it.
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When I read your original post, it sounded like you were using the lack of shit posting against him. He pointed out that he was scum when you saw him shit post and that was when you started saying it wasn't alignment related. And as far as OMGUS goes, he called you scum in post 666. I don't see you calling him scum until you voted him in 685, but correct me if I'm wrong.In post 783, jjh927 wrote:You understand that Vedith is the one who omgus-ed me, there is no goddamn meta in that whole goddamn case, and any and all inferences are based off clearly defined premises and facts? Your criticisms are bullshit- Egg
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Yeah I was actually just looking at that and realizing he's probably not gonna get lynched and we have 3 days to deadline and all these 2 person wagons.
But...
My preferred comproise is sesq who only has one vote.
I was townreading echo and vedith hasn't done anything to change that.
I'm townreading transcend.
I'm townreding wave.
That leaves jjh who I don't think is scum with bombcat. I guess he's a better vote than the other wagons though.
Can we lynch sesq or is that not doable? Momentum is a real thing. *shrug*
UNVOTE: Unvote
VOTE: sesq
I want this to happen, but if it doesn't I'll go to jjh.
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Just transcend? I notice you are townreading jjh and didn't mention connor in that post but every time you do mention connor I get the idea you're town reading him even if you don't come right out and say it.game wrote:Idk i feel like scum is using a replacement as last minute desperate lynch bait, he's commented enough where I get a sense of townness
What is trash about it? What pinged you?sesq wrote:game's play is trash so far,
maybe lurkscumhasnt really pinged me until now tho
Tell me why it's scum. And specifically scum, not just poor play.jjh wrote:How the fuck is this ever town I have no idea if half of you are even playing this game
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Deadline is in two days. The lead wagon is at 2. FIVE of you are on 1 person wagons or not voting at all. Pick a wagon and fast. Sesq, transcend, vedith, and jjh are the only viable votes unless something changes.- Egg
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What reason would he have to be out to get you as scum? I think the issue here is just how you'e perceiving him.In post 828, wavemode wrote:Well, I'm town, so naturally I think his play has been atrocious since he pushed on me for a while. The shade he's thrown at me repeatedly has been really minor, meaningless things. And that's not scummy in itself - it's the fact that so many other people have done so many worse things this game and he doesn't comment on them one bit. So that doesn't strike me as him just playing paranoid, it strikes me as him being out to get me.- Egg
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I deleted my original response to this because waveform basically said the same thing as me in 835.In post 832, jjh927 wrote:In post 547, Egg wrote:Reads, town on top, scum on bottom:
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Raya
Gamenburger
Waveform
Sunchild
Transcend
Connor
Flubber
Echo
Jjh (not scum with bomb)
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BombcatIn post 795, Egg wrote:I was townreading echo and vedith hasn't done anything to change that.
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I don't believe in completely null reads most of the time. It's pretty impossible to play the game properly and not be able to come up with some opinion on any given player. So yes, everyone from echo on up is at least some degree of a town read which should be obvious from reading my first content post.In post 865, jjh927 wrote:Oh so you weren't null on anyone and you properly townread everyone from echo upwards inclusive
It's still something I should address myself.In post 867, wavemode wrote:
Uh, he didn't ask you a question? He asked the town to vote you.In post 864, Egg wrote:Wave, don't answer things for me.- Egg
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If you think I'm shitty here, sure:jjh wrote:Remember when I said connor's post sounded like an excuse for scummy play? Yeah this is the town version of that. The difference is that echo offers himself up as a lynch which lacks the basic survivalism scum tend to show. Connor's post was the exact opposite and came off very "don't lynch me lol". So yeah, echo can be town.- Egg
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Oops. I put your name on the quote instead of mine somehow.In post 872, jjh927 wrote:That's a lie I've never said that
Yeah that really needs to happen for any wagons to take off.waveform wrote:Sesq, @Raya, @Transcend, @bombcat - you can't all be scum, please help the town and get on a wagon.- Egg
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I'm not voting flubber. Bombcat or sesq would be best.In post 896, wavemode wrote:Since we have an extension now, could we indeed start a flubber wagon? How is everyone feeling about that vote? Connor you say you think he's scum so that would make three of us. Do we have four more?- Egg
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Why?In post 956, Vedith wrote:
His theory is probably trash and will have no reason to say that.In post 954, Egg wrote:Transcend if your theory is what I think it is, please don't say what it is.
Keep the sesq votes coming people.
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So...yeah that's what I thought the theory was.
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EwIn post 986, Vedith wrote:If I'm mason and claim it, tonight I'm dead anyway.
So overall that's a dumb question.
Vote sesq.transcend wrote:i just don't know how i'm gonna get this vote to flip in time but like i really do think echo was obvtown
like i do odododod
Nah, they don't claim unless they are otherwise getting lynched and that applies tomorrow too.transcend wrote:imo none ofthem should out today unless getting lynched
then tomorrow one of them outs the one the 3 thinks collectively are the scummiest lol
To be fair, that slip could be made by either a VT or scum and could be faked by a mason.Transcend wrote:k i tslipped i'm a 4th IC
anyone who disagrees is getting lynched lol
SweeeeeetTranscend wrote:VOTE: sesq
better than nuecho
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VOTE: sesq
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I mean... your case wasn't very good and didn't convince me to change my mind on a player I thought was town. Yesterday you acted like that made me scum with him. Now it's me looking for town cred? Sounds like confirmation bias to me. You decided yesterday that I was scum because I didn't like your vedith case and now you're sticking with that even though you were wrong on vedith.jjh wrote:As far as Egg goes I still think he's scum. Defending Vedith there is a solid way to get post-flip towncred, but I still think his arguments were shit tier fabrications.- Egg
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I thought he meant vedith...In post 1080, Flubbernugget wrote:I also never advocated for a bombcat lynch- Egg
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Bombcat hasn't flipped though. And is probably still scum even though nobody thinks so.In post 1082, wavemode wrote:I think he's saying that his coasting off lynchbait comment referred to jjh starting both the bomb and vedith wagons, not just vedith. Which is fair enough, I suppose.- Egg
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You could just NK me.In post 1086, bombcat wrote:
u want to get lynched? buddy boy? i will make this happen i swear to god i will do itIn post 1084, Egg wrote:
Bombcat hasn't flipped though. And is probably still scum even though nobody thinks so.In post 1082, wavemode wrote:I think he's saying that his coasting off lynchbait comment referred to jjh starting both the bomb and vedith wagons, not just vedith. Which is fair enough, I suppose.
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Nothing wrong with a V/LA if needed.In post 1103, Raya36 wrote:I'm able to sign up for that game because by the time it starts I will have the time to play. I don't right now. I feel kind of bad constantly prodging this game. I'll give it a solid effort to catch up and post tomorrow and if I still can't I'll ask to be replaced again tomorrow.
I'm about to take another one myself.
I was looking for games to join and remembered seeing raya's name there lolTranscend wrote:Stalker?
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Echo is vedith who is deadIn post 1110, Transcend wrote:Bombcat could be mafia
And Raya i like your reads list as well. No offense didn't read the spoilers but i like the placements of everyone but echo.- Egg
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Hmm. I'd like to see you sort the two of us if that's the case, but I guess that's fair for now if you're confident in your other reads.In post 1123, wavemode wrote:Hm, forgot you because I have no worthwhile read on you or fitz. You're just town-by-default at this point because I have scumreads. Should have just put you in the middle.
Can we talk about where we disagree then? I think you're town and we are both scureading sesq. What reads are "strange"? Game and Bombcat?wave wrote:Yeah, Egg's strange reads are the main reason I have him as null. I townread his actions otherwise, though. I think he could just be wrong.- Egg
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There's a difference between going back and reading what you've said (or even just trying to remember it) and actually talking it out. I'm trying to engage you because I town read you and we disagree strongly but haven't had a discussion about it. Can you remind me of your major points against game or why you think town would do what bombcat did regarding jjh?In post 1151, wavemode wrote:I've talked at length already about game and bomb.
Just be content knowing I think you're probably town.
bombcat wrote:you fucking hammered him and you're trying to get town cred for saying he was town while you did it, why is no one lynching you
At the time transcend voted, it was pretty obvious vedith was the lynch. All he did was get it over with. If he hadn't hammered, I may have done it pretty soon myself. I was also townreading vedith but any lynch (setup in mind, masons don't count) is better than a no lynch. And townreading who everyone else scum reads on Day 1 is a losing battle. If he wasn't lynched Day 1, he'd have been lynched later. I don't fault Transcend for that hammer if he's town and the fact that I get why town would do it means it's not a scum tell either in my opinion.bombcat wrote:that is also a question for the people not voting transcend
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Transcend, is your Titus scum read only because of her Vedith vote or is there more?
havingfitz was matichora though...Transcend wrote:low key wouldn't mind if the 4 of us townblocked and maybe add raya there as well.- Egg
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Fair enough. We agree on sesq so this conversation can wait. And about that last sentence, I care more about your reads on game and bombcat than your read on me so it's no big deal.In post 1172, wavemode wrote:
Er I just wrote a whole wall on game a few pages back. Mantichora didn't have a lot of content, just seemed like low-hanging fruit for being lurky. As for bomb I actually don't blame you for scumreading him, I just don't personally when I look at the grander scheme of things, rather than just focusing on one thing he did. And I have some gut feelings about some other things that aren't really meaningful right now but w/eIn post 1170, Egg wrote:There's a difference between going back and reading what you've said (or even just trying to remember it) and actually talking it out. I'm trying to engage you because I town read you and we disagree strongly but haven't had a discussion about it. Can you remind me of your major points against game or why you think town would do what bombcat did regarding jjh?
I think you're fixating too much on this. Sorry if I come across as exasperated with you or something but I feel like at this point we just need to compromise where we can and get some information from flips. I've already argued and argued about these things and your reads are what they are and that's totally fine by me. But yeah, If I'm making a straight up list from top to bottom, you're in the middle, sorry about that.- Egg
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Town blocks, if done right, aren't forever. They need to be re-evaluated later.bombcat wrote:even if that were true putting her in a forever town circle is ridiculous and we should lynch the person who recommended it
-Your connor vote early onIn post 1190, Sesq wrote:
Remind me why you scumread meIn post 1187, Egg wrote:Bombcat, raya looked town in the beginning though. Inactivity makes it feel like a stale read, but it doesn't make raya scum.
Game, remind me why you're townreading sesq.
-I got a detatched vibe from you that turned into more of a "faking it" feeling
-your reads list post
-the way you called sun's play "ass" for little apparent reason and used it to call him scum (you did something similar with game as well)
-your reaction to raya's scum read on you
-your reaction to bombcat's mason thing
-your suggestion that masons should claim
Where's she been helpful?Game wrote:I've played a scum game with sesq before, and she can get away with a lot less posting then she does. This game she's contributing. Intermittently I'll admit, but my gut says scum!sesq wouldn't being nearly as helpful as she is in this game
She's not at the top of my town reads but definitely more town than scum in my mind
I think it's pretty obvious that I was saying that I was scumreading mantichora.havingfitz wrote:Transcend knows this. Your point?- Egg
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This was you townreading him?In post 193, Sesq wrote:i think bombcat has the "lol xd!" factor going
if sunchild is not an alt then
yeah imma vote because without the noob justification this play is total ass. maybe its just bad meta tho???? damn....
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I was scumreading the fact that you called his play "ass" without saying what was wrong with it and then turned around and voted.
It felt like you didn't believe in the vote.
I mean now you say pressure vote and if so maybe that's fine but it didn't feel like pressure and it's not the only time you've been dismissive of something without getting specific. Hell, you just did it after I replied to you asking why I scum read you. You responded to one of my points and just blindly call the rest dumb.- Egg
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Coming from the person who says:sesq wrote: please start making just any level of sense
Like that wasn't even about you calling it a pressure vote. It was about you being dismissive.sesq wrote:do you understand what a pressure vote is?
wait, you do but you dismiss it anyway, you're just saying "well you've done it other times so it's wrong".- Egg
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Why not sesq?In post 1259, jjh927 wrote:I still want a Titus wagon but seeing as that's still a vanity vote I too could look into Transcend. I'm not exactly great at reading him- Egg
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Jjh:In post 1262, Egg wrote:
Why not sesq?In post 1259, jjh927 wrote:I still want a Titus wagon but seeing as that's still a vanity vote I too could look into Transcend. I'm not exactly great at reading him - Egg
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