Mini 1937 ~ Girls ♥ Girls 2: Mini's Apartment ~ Endgame

[Ginngie]

Well you posted the lyrics of a terrible song

VOTE: Spiffeh
YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Spiffeh and I are scum again, chainsaw vroom vroom

VOTE: NoticeMeSenpai

[Ginngie]

GUYS

BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS

HAPPY CAKE DAY

[Ginngie]

The third one might been in that broken quote you just used lmao

so am I town yet or shall I waste more time?

[Ginngie]

*GASP*

You fence sitting little scumfuck! >_>

<_<

*whispers* between you and me, totes could see camn scum here, don't tell anyone yet tho

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

So you can read camn faster than me

[Ginngie]

Multiple ways that question/response can be interpreted so let me be more clear: #56 is remarkably vague and underdeveloped, as far as actual implications go.

What you revealed to Heartless seems to be an off the cuff winging. The "I" language makes me think that's all you and none of the hydra discussion, and that's really strange considering you supposedly have your niche that seems to need precise play. (Don't grill me on language here, doing my best paraphrase and I realize that's not quite on the mark) I'd expect you to either readily come out with it to begin with or to have discussed exactly how the early claim will go, and neither of those things seems to have happened.

So...when are you going to talk about something alignment indicative?

[Ginngie]

@nancy:

Can you give us a bit more detail on the Deadline Meter and what the activity criteria are?

It's like a battery, as long as we post it keeps recharging but if it hits 0 then that is deadline.

She said so in the scum PT

[Ginngie]

PT convo:

M: hey Jae

J: yo

M: For us, repeat

J: okay

M: I got this


*skips towards present day*

[Ginngie]

Okay again, there is nothing alignment indicative there.

Explain or get a vote

[Ginngie]

:3

VOTE: Prism

[Ginngie]

The only thing you've said is mastina didn't talk to her hydra partner about claiming something and that is in no way AI.

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: MAJOR NEWS ALERT

[Ginngie]

You're pushing something that isn't AI.

??????

[Ginngie]

So, you think it's AI or not.

How the hell is it AI?

[Ginngie]

So what you find AI is that you think it's a gambit?

[Ginngie]

So what you find AI is that you think it's a gambit?

and that you think mastina didn't talk to jae?

[Ginngie]

So what's the difference between scumstina and towntina here?

[Ginngie]

So scumtina only gambits off the cuff and towntina sets up claims way ahead of time with meticulous.

Yes or no?

Stop fucking quoting yourself and talk like a normal person please.

[Ginngie]

I honestly dont get the sarcasm.

I obviously don't understand what you're thinking here.

P-edit: Too early too tell, gut says prob town

[Ginngie]

interesting

what else does your gut say?

That milk doesn't agree with me

~ What kind of milk, though? Cows milk: ew ew. Soymilk: meh, gassy, good for cooking or heated. Almond milk: big yes! Coconut milk: circumstantial. Rice milk: water... ~

[Ginngie]

Actually this is largely my fault for getting annoyed in the first place when I really shouldn't be, so I'll apologize.

I could have made it clear from the start I didn't understand, could have said that I wasn't understanding you over saying you didn't explain anything.

So same apology to you, I don't know if you know this, but I've actually been trying to not be a yell monster like I used to be.

[Ginngie]

No worries. Is there anything else that you don't get/do you find my thought process implausible?

To Heartless, why the Ginngie vote?

Not really and I'm just gonna be rereading to see whats up.

What I did get out of this tho, is that our back and forth reminded me of myself and RC when we played in Spyro:
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=70313

I'd be RC and you would be me in that game, where I just assume something is common knowledge and the the whole shebang.

Also within in game relations, not wanting to pick a fight and instead trying to put water under the bridge makes me feel that it's a town move as it pushes towards cohesiveness instead of being divisive


UNVOTE:

[Ginngie]

Or wanting to keep attention away...

Here's the difference.

Prism wasn't afraid to explain their point of view.

The only thing he didn't instigate was himself feeling annoyed.

If he accused me of something and I started to argue a point, and he then apologized and backed off from what he was thinking, then you'd have a point.

However, it is literally about him apologizing for getting annoyed, not about his opinions on the game.

[Ginngie]

Ginngie, what made you say you could see camn as scum?

I feel like nancy would make a scumbutt a hated slot due to the previous game, she made common town roles, scum roles.

So a NU like Hated would be good for scum to counter the norms.

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ginngie

[Ginngie]

camn?

I'm not good at this game

I hope and support this motion

[Ginngie]

Spiff can you vote me until the next vote count?

[Ginngie]

Why do people purposefully take out quote links when quoting people

[Ginngie]

Camn, did you vote her for voting herself or was
another reason ?

Yes. Gin knows better.
It's a soft AtoE and its manipulative.
Town might try it in a game with a weaker playerlist, but it's tone deaf in this one.

If you know me so well, then you wouldn't be that quick to judge...

[Ginngie]

You could always ask me why I self voted? :3

[Ginngie]

It was a statement regarding cardy somethings vote against me because 1. Card's reads are literally random.org and 2. it looked like we were going to vote people without actually saying anything or give a reason why so I did the same :3

[Ginngie]

All reasons in this game at this gamestate are anti-town.

What does this mean?

[Ginngie]

Also I saw fit to see who would use that as an opportunity to put down an easy vote on something that is "scummy"

Literally the 2nd vote on me and you think I'm scared of a wagon? I've been at L-2 as scum and can diffuse the wagon on my own accord.

Also also, I'm actually really good at detecting fake scum reads on my slot so myself encouraging a wagon on me actually helps get me reads.

[Ginngie]

Camn, babe, there is only one vote I care about, it's mastina.

Also with the reads list thing, it struck me as odd and out of place cuz the beginning was literally just throwing out names.

Cards was literally an actual reads list with tiers and it's WAY too early to have that structured of a list

[Ginngie]

Also get real.

"I did something scummy to see who would put a vote on me for doing something scummy"?

Yes, you hit the nail on the head

[Ginngie]

That had to be, the single most funniest post I have seen this week.

[Ginngie]

wait camn babe, why do you think I care about this playerlist and how I play?

[Ginngie]

~ I was thinking about loving Ginngie before I went out to do my laundry and I'm still feeling it. ~

Can I just say I'm winning this game?

[Ginngie]

But
VOTE: Camn

Scummy reaction to the selfvote.

/yawn.

babe you're supposed to self vote

[Ginngie]

wait camn babe, why do you think I care about this playerlist and how I play?

I would like this answered tho.

As it stands it's obvious I'm trying to do my own thing and appealing to no one but my own play style.

I think what matters most is that I don't really get how everyone else actually matters because it never occurred to me

[Ginngie]

So I don't care but I'm aware?

So what does me being aware mean?

[Ginngie]

You're a good noodle :3

[Ginngie]

camn
Imperium
Polar Vortex
Ginngie
Prism
VNB National Plan
Ahsoka Tano
MaxwellPuckett
Heartless
Caryatid
Kmd4390
Spiffeh

CONFIRMED TOWN

SUCK IT!

[Ginngie]

If you don't understand my reads, ask me about them.

There's nothing to understand if you don't say anything. So get to talking

[Ginngie]

If you don't understand my reads, ask me about them.

There's nothing to understand if you don't say anything. So get to talking

I get more out of it if others try to engage me on it or ask specific questions because I want to see if people are seeing what I do. I'll explain every tier when I'm on the computer after I make food but while I am phone posting you can ask about the one or two reads that bug you the most

your choice

[Ginngie]

im so confused as to why Cary has only posted in this game and literally joined last year >_>

[Ginngie]

Considering I've already established a town Woodcutters, yee

[Ginngie]

then why did you ignore my entrance?

You go on long post sprees so i let ya finish lol

Anything past that is something I didn't know what to or how to respond too lol

[Ginngie]

hey Nacho babe, can I just make you a double voter?

Heart isn't 100% in the game to find the scums but part of me wants it to be

Polar/Spiff/Heartless

[Ginngie]

VOTE: SPIFFEEEEEEYYYYYY

[Ginngie]

it just a lot of her early posting felt like she came out the gate with a goal of trying to get to get townread and her posts felt really over the top to me.

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

That tier is just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's the middle of the night in their time zone" tier (you), just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's daytime in their time zone" (Shadowphant). I originally had fewer tiers but I kept finding I did feel a little bit more strongly about one person than another.

Not gonna lie, I don't see scum caring about details like this.

[Ginngie]

You answer your own question in the last sentence

[Ginngie]

Ginngie seems like that stubborn town problem child who considers paranoid independence more important then getting along.

An apt description

[Ginngie]

me thinks if I just say I don't understand something that would make conversations a lot easier.

[Ginngie]

I kinda want to how the spiff wagon rides out, if you said stuff about max I'l read it and give them a once over

[Ginngie]

Prisms town! Totes.
VOTE: Ahsoka Tano

Ginngie pls dont self if youre town even as a joke its just confusing to us good honest folks

This is the only post that is noteworthy of anything and it sucks tone wise.
First with the claiming the town read on prism, for me it's the word 'totes" like it was added to go "hey hey it's a town read, see a town read, fuck yeee"

'Such Sorting, Much Town'

Also at the end of his next sentence 'us good honest folks.' That's just a loaded response of hey look I am town, this is a town responding because I am clearly town like the other towns.

[Ginngie]

Forgot to say, only reason I don't wish to join the wagon is because the dude says he's sick so it's not like a wagon will change anything, a few days from now when things get heated then we'll see.

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Imperium

Meant to do this earlier

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

town-camn, IMperium, mastina, Caryatid, Prism, Heartless

scum-Polar Vortex, KMD, Ahsoka Tano, Maxwell, Spiffeh


Hey, so there's like, 2 of you there that isn't scum, so if you could do ya girl a solid and just obv!town a bit so I can cross off the last two people that'd be great.

[Ginngie]

tell me who ya think is town in my scum list

[Ginngie]

forgot to add VMB or whatever onto scumz list, they're a thing too.

[Ginngie]

{Prism} Happy Birthday, Prism!
{Spiffeh}
{Heartless}
{NoticeMeSenpai}
{camn, kmd4390}
{Imperium}
{VNB National Plan}
{MaxwellPuckett, Polar Vortex}
{Ahsoka Tano, Ginngie}
{}
{}

I think. Was thinking about voting Ginngie before I went out for a walk and I'm still feeling it.

VOTE: Ginngie

~ I was thinking about loving Ginngie before I went out to do my laundry and I'm still feeling it. ~

{Prism}
{Spiffeh}
{Heartless}
{NoticeMeSenpai}
{camn, kmd4390}
{Imperium}
{VNB National Plan}
{MaxwellPuckett, Polar Vortex}
{Ahsoka Tano, Ginngie}

Why was Spiffeh so high - the only thing he did was the "predict the scum" thing and I don't understand why that looks town at all. Was Heartless so high up for any reason other than "general engagement"? Why did you like KMD's entry?

Mostly on the same page with NMS right now; I didn't like Ahsoka Tano's vote on camn when it came and so right now they're more of a person of interest for me than they are for you.

Spiffeh was so high because I really liked his opening and I think the "predict the scum" thing, while silly, is something I'll want to look back on later in the game once we have some flips because I do think scum would answer that differently than town would. Unfortunately, he's done literally nothing since then, so probably I jumped the gun there. I liked his entrance though.

Heartless was a townlean because I liked Anti's tone. I'm trying not to use meta this game but I liked his entrance more than I didn't.

I like that kmd came out of the gate scumhunting, so I put it in the "null but is doing things" tier.

That tier is just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's the middle of the night in their time zone" tier (you), just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's daytime in their time zone" (Shadowphant).

I originally had fewer tiers but I kept finding I did feel a little bit more strongly about one person than another.

Scum aren't simply going to be that weird with reasoning, and lets be real here, it's honest.

[Ginngie]

Damnit, I just realized I had two tabs open and never edited the posts together.

Final post:
mastina babe, Cary ain't scum, Cary she cares too much.

~Trust in the obscurity that is a Ginngie townread~

I believe I pointed it out but

Spoiler:

{Prism} Happy Birthday, Prism!
{Spiffeh}
{Heartless}
{NoticeMeSenpai}
{camn, kmd4390}
{Imperium}
{VNB National Plan}
{MaxwellPuckett, Polar Vortex}
{Ahsoka Tano, Ginngie}
{}
{}

I think. Was thinking about voting Ginngie before I went out for a walk and I'm still feeling it.

VOTE: Ginngie

~ I was thinking about loving Ginngie before I went out to do my laundry and I'm still feeling it. ~

{Prism}
{Spiffeh}
{Heartless}
{NoticeMeSenpai}
{camn, kmd4390}
{Imperium}
{VNB National Plan}
{MaxwellPuckett, Polar Vortex}
{Ahsoka Tano, Ginngie}

Why was Spiffeh so high - the only thing he did was the "predict the scum" thing and I don't understand why that looks town at all. Was Heartless so high up for any reason other than "general engagement"? Why did you like KMD's entry?

Mostly on the same page with NMS right now; I didn't like Ahsoka Tano's vote on camn when it came and so right now they're more of a person of interest for me than they are for you.

Spiffeh was so high because I really liked his opening and I think the "predict the scum" thing, while silly, is something I'll want to look back on later in the game once we have some flips because I do think scum would answer that differently than town would. Unfortunately, he's done literally nothing since then, so probably I jumped the gun there. I liked his entrance though.

Heartless was a townlean because I liked Anti's tone. I'm trying not to use meta this game but I liked his entrance more than I didn't.

I like that kmd came out of the gate scumhunting, so I put him in the "null but is doing things" tier.

That tier is just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's the middle of the night in their time zone" tier (you), just above "null, hasn't posted, but it's daytime in their time zone" (Shadowphant).

I originally had fewer tiers but I kept finding I did feel a little bit more strongly about one person than another.

Scum aren't simply going to be that weird with reasoning, and lets be real here, it's honest.

[Ginngie]

But in exchange I do want you to trust me in whatever reads of mine you most doubt.

I'll trade you a heartless read for a Cary read

[Ginngie]

The entire lobby townreads me

\o/

[Ginngie]

"The paragon of mafiascum is lynchbait"

>_>

<_<

Is that really what story you want too sell?

[Ginngie]

It's also an OMGUS read \o/

[Ginngie]

"These sure are words."

Me when I'm studying

[Ginngie]

Anti or TTH

why ya'll no longer vote me

[Ginngie]

Okay but am I still the scums : 3

[Ginngie]

I'm just curious what made ya'll switch from scum reading me to townreading me, not about KMD

[Ginngie]

We need heart emojis/thumbs up and down emojis/MOAR EMOJIS

[Ginngie]

I'm just curious what made ya'll switch from scum reading me to townreading me, not about KMD

1, gut

2, after the vote i thought your ensuing end of the conversation w camn my gut got a "too obnoxious to be scum" feel

3, i thought about ur answer to the "what's your read on mastina?" question and it wasn't rly white knight-y like i interpreted your attack on prism to be

[Ginngie]

This feels too easy

[Ginngie]

I dont really care that it is but it's just leagues different from part 1

[Ginngie]

Prism makes me doubt the ever living shit out of my Cary read

[Ginngie]

>opens mafiascum in new tab
>sees unread posts in nancy's game
>reads spiff's latest postings
>swipes left

[Ginngie]

stop talking about Imperium and talk about literally everyone else

You're playing defense all the time and you're using real life as a reason to scum read, it's weak as shit.

[Ginngie]

I actually do think Ginngie is scum now but that happened way after the self which I dont care about

esplain

[Ginngie]

Pedit oh hi

[Ginngie]

It's not my job to spoon feed you?

[Ginngie]

you're seriously sitting here going

"I'm not going to sort anyone myself, no one has pinged me but one person, Im not scum hunting or town hunting.

The only thing I'll do is beetlejuice"

[Ginngie]

maxwell read the thread and be a better player :3

[Ginngie]

Pedit Ginngie Stop making pointless posts its obvious ive read the thread, do you think im scum or do you think im bad

If you read the thread you would know that Nacho and mastina town read me, most importantly mastina.

I'm confirmed town ya dingus

[Ginngie]

Pedit Ginngie Stop making pointless posts its obvious ive read the thread, do you think im scum or do you think im bad

If you read the thread you would know that Nacho and mastina town read me, most importantly mastina.

I'm confirmed town ya dingus

Who cares?

why don't you?

Why do you not want to hear what sounds like strong evidence pointing to someone being town?

Wouldn't the townie thing be to want to correctly sort slots instead of just push a narrative and ignore anything that counters that?

[Ginngie]

Gin: What I dont care about is you telling me nacho and mastina TRing you makes you town or telling me to accept it as gospel just because
I dont know anything about your relationship and I dont care to chase it down, if all you can do is hide behind them and gloat then youve given me no reason to care

You don't have to chase anything down.

like I said earlier, they explained everything before.

It's not like they went "Gin's town" and that's it.

I'm never going to argue self-meta.

However, what I want to see is what conclusions you come up with when you get your information from a collective of people.

I am willing to go back and get the posts this game that expresses these viewpoints if you wish.

[Ginngie]

Gin: I keep posting w a lot more venom than I intend, please know that should be read in a light tone

What makes you say this?

[Ginngie]

which she probably would have succeeded in if others hadn't lynched her.

[Ginngie]

mastina quite adamantly said all the fucking time that she scum read the fuck out of me in Biochem?

[Ginngie]

while she alive, dead and post game and even in random conversation?

Where in the fuck did that come from?

[Ginngie]

Also spiff, in what way did I try and pocket mastina this game?

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: mastina as scum nailing me as soon as I started posting.

Subject: WWF Mafia: Royal Rumble (GAME OVER)

Only read up to what was posted after replaced in, LUV, you scum read A50 because of his case on gerry, porque
Also gerry, why do you want me to vote Chick

I really am sorry, btw, Ginngie.
I knew that short of Priscilla/MariaR/gerry/Leonshade replacing out there was a significant chance of you drawing scum.
But.

Even if I hadn't been scumreading PeregrineV.

Even if PeregrineV was my top townread.

I'd be throwing that read out the window.
Because this is just your scum entrance.

I am sorry you couldn't replace town. But for what it's worth. You're last on my lynch list so we can at least hang out together for a while. You will need to die though. <3

Spoiler: one of thousands of mastina posts explaining why I was never a town read in biochem.

Subject: BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

It really bothers me that mastina was unable to figure out gins alignment, they are pretty well know about figuring each other out.

Read the fucking thread to figure out why.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic wasn't providing content.
Gin was a recent replacement into the game.
Then, Gin's real-life emergency hit.
As a result, Gin had given me no fucking content TO read.
All of Gin's content was basically fluff: nothingness. Formalities. Introductions. Non-statements. Lack of hard stances. But also nothing unexpected of Gin given
-Gin's status as a RECENT FUCKING REPLACEMENT and
-Gin's real-life situation cropping up.

And I cannot emphasize this enough.
I was not townreading Gin.
I wasn't scumreading Gin, either.

I had no read on Gin...because THERE WAS NOTHING ON WHICH TO BASE A READ. Because those things above, Gin would do as town when entering, too. They were null. Useless. Contentless. Lacking meat. Yet Gin as scum isn't someone who makes a habit of staying that way--had Gin done so I'd have lynched Gin, but Gin will work to quickly fix a lack of content and that is why I wanted to give Gin a fucking grace period.

Letting Gin live was temporary and meant to last ONLY until Gin's real-life emergency was resolved

(plus a short grace period following).
Gin got lynched when in the middle of a fucking real-life emergency. Beyond that being a shitty thing to do in-general (you lynched Gin when Gin had no possible way of responding), it was also still in my opinion shooting us in the foot.

Because Gin as scum either would have stepped up and given us useful content we could analyze...
...Or by not doing so with no reasonable excuse, been outed as scum. I was not giving Gin an indefinite pass. Nor was I defending Gin because of a townread. Nor did I lack a read on a Gin who had given content. I was defending Gin, TEMPORARILY, advocating for us to let Gin resolve real-life shit and then come back, give content, and for us (by which I mean me) to analyze that content. Content which is utterly absent.

You know what Gin's iso tells us?
That Gin is scum. That's what it tells us.
You know what Gin's iso doesn't tell us?
Anything useful. There's a goddamned REASON you're not seeing people constantly iso Gin to see what hints Gin left and that's because Gin was fucking lynched before being able to leave any.

And that's why I'm so pissed off. It's useless. It would not have been useless if the town had waited something like FIVE REAL LIFE DAYS for Gin to sort shit out. And we

had

that time; there was over a week until deadline if memory serves me. There was absolutely no reason to rush the lynch through on Gin. The town did so anyway. (And incidentally this is one reason I so firmly felt scum were involved because that rush to lynch scum doesn't come entirely from town.)

Spoiler: For funsies, yet another game i rolled scum and mastina shit on my life by scum reading me the minute she read a single post

Subject: Micro 719: For Us [Endgame]

Okay so change of plans slightly. I'm still going to catch up but I had a quick chat with mastina since she's around and decided screw it with regards to her usual post by post catch up style where she doesn't know anything of shit that happened further in the thread. (sorry babe <3)

So I have some feedback now. She agrees with me that 363-364 was a scum whiteknight and nomination of us. She said it makes sense for scum if they don't have a strongman to buddy the BP IC since they can't kill us and need to be on our good side. Also while calling us town advocating for us to be vigged. I also told her about the 3p hood ftr, but I don't think that factored in to this, she said that we wouldn't lynch Imperium or morph and if there is scum in that hood basically it's Ginngie's slot (and I think she separately reads Gin as scum from what she saw when she popped in earlier?).

Back to catch up stuff. I'm going to just ping stuff through to her and mess up her catch up.

VOTE: Two Real Humans

[Ginngie]

SO IN WHAT WORLD DO I TRY AND POCKET THAT

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

while she alive, dead and post game and even in random conversation?

Where in the fuck did that come from?

Subject: BIOCHEMISTRY [bad stuff pt]

So mastina is pocketed for the rest of the game. That's my MS-wife and considering we are in the neighborhood together, I have full control.

Subject: BIOCHEMISTRY [bad stuff pt]

If you're scum you could literally just scum the thread up and be obvscum and I'd let you get away with it; I'm not going to even try to bother sort your slot because I'm calling you town and goddammit if that's wrong then it's wrong but I want it to be true so fuck it I'm treating it as true.

<3 I love mastina sometimes

She literally held my neighborhood fucking hostage saying that she was sending you her one-shot for the night and that if we lynched you it would go to waste.

So you're very wrong?

yeah, I got cocky and seriously didn't hold an actual grasp onto reality, she never once town read me actually.

However I can find and have found quotes from mastina shitting on my life when I roll scum, and you will never find her ever town reading me when I'm rolled scum and that's a promise to god.

[Ginngie]

She literally held my neighborhood fucking hostage saying that she was sending you her one-shot for the night and that if we lynched you it would go to waste.

I believe it's in one of the actual spoilers but she made it quite clear it was that she didn't want me lynched, purely so I can chunk out some reads, and then massacre the entire game AFTER lynching me with my reads now stated.

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

That's it? You are just trying to get a townread and 'stay grounded'??
Thats what all this buildup is about?

I'm waiting for certain things to occur that haven't yet

Update: the things I'm waiting for still haven't happened.

Anyone wanna guess what they are?

What are the things you are waiting for?

For Tammy and TTH to post

What happens when they do?

I am also able to easily identify when both of them are town and they are usually priority sorts.

THAT IS IT???
What a let-down.
This is like that time I went to Tokyo Disneyland. I thought it would be so next-level alien.. but it was just fucking shitty Disneyland.

This is an awful post.

The reason I said "I'm waiting for stuff to happen" was because Anti said that I seemed bored. The "build-up" that you're speaking of is nonexistent.

What exactly would have been a sufficient answer to your question? Because this post REALLY makes it seem like you were setting me up to fail. And the fact that the foundation of your scum read (beyond sheeping) seems to have been hung up in this point makes me think you were hiding behind it to justify being on my wagon.

VOTE: camn

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

I'm saying that if it was your goal in Biochemistry as scum was to get her pocketed, it's likely that you'd approach this game similarly if you were to roll scum.

And your inability to really articulate your read on me/do much to further justify being parked on my wagon is a step in this direction.

I can also get a quote from when she was alive in the game on D2 when she bitched at everyone.

You also ignored the fact that there were 2 other games where she separately scum read me from the very start.

[Ginngie]

So you're ignoring the fact that I've played 3 games with her as scum and failed miserably each time yet you come to the conclusion that I'm suddenly going to be able to fool her?

[Ginngie]

I'm saying that if it was your goal in Biochemistry as scum was to get her pocketed, it's likely that you'd approach this game similarly if you were to roll scum.

AND SERIOUSLY

WHY WOULD I APPROACH A GAME THE SAME WAY

IF MASTINA KEPT SAYING I WAS DESTROYING HER TOWN READ ON MY SLOT


there is no logical consistency in your theory

[Ginngie]

You also ignored the fact that there were 2 other games where she separately scum read me from the very start.

I don't give a fuck about that

And if so, more of a reason for you to try to buddy up to her???

My point has nothing to do with her ability to read you, it has all to do with how you reacted to her as scum in Biochemistry and seeing how you could have similar intentions here based on your play around her/around the wagon she's championing

For the record, in the 3rd quote I spoilered, that was the Two Real Humans game, I buddied up and whiteknighted her slot, got scum read for it instantaneously.

So it fails in Biochem, fails in other games, and you think I'm going to try it again?

Also what was my buddying attempts?

[Ginngie]

It worked in Biochemistry, she held our neighborhood hostage to try and save you Day 1.

I WILL SMACK YOU

[Ginngie]

SHE

WANTED

MY

READS

YOU

FUCK

[Ginngie]

Spiffeh

where was I buddying mastina this game.

show me.

[Ginngie]

Anti, did you never actually make the neighborhood PT's public from biochem?

[Ginngie]

^ this is not a town reaction

ya know, the only thing this post actually does, is chalk up an excuse of a post to not actually continue trying to make the point you were saying because you know you're in the wrong.

[Ginngie]

Oh my god, you're arguing over mastina's motives in another game. I'm both fascinated and horrified at how pointless this is.

what's amazing is when you can prove someone has a 100% track record of reading me correctly regardless of buddying or any literally tactics I try.

and then be told I'm fooling the person who I fear most and literally decline to replace into games that she's in for fear of rolling scum and ruining the game for the scum team.

[Ginngie]

forgot about them mate

[Ginngie]

Spiff?

[Ginngie]

You realize in the post you qouted...

It has mastina saying she hasn't read anything of the game right?

Her saying I'm town is saying she just wants me too be town.

That doesn't actually mean she town read my posts.

[Ginngie]

She also said she wasn't even going to try and sort me?

[Ginngie]

and there was no where in the post where you say she blackmailed the PT to get me not lynched(not denying she did that).

She did not say it was because she town read me for it.


No where did she ever once say, "I town read Gin because of her play"

[Ginngie]

I'm simply refuting your points mate, now you just salty lmao

[Ginngie]

So Gin what do you as scum in this game do if mastina is town
Hide?

I'd probably do the one approach I haven't tried and directly challenge her and scum read her but really nothing will ever work.

We discussed it before and the reason nothing will work is because we play the exact same way. We can be obvious scum yet remain in control, and because we are the same, we can spot that a mile away because it's our literal own play style.

Also given that she has literally taught me 90% of what I know from extensive sessions of talking and theory stuff and reading every single article she has produced. She can read me like a book because of that.

and in reality, I probably would hide more and just avoid playing the game much saying I'm bored or busy.

You can see that trend in the Two Real Humans game where I was able to post in the neighborhood PT and in the game thread quite easily and even managed to get a scum read scum slot back on it's feet but as soon as mastina came in and voted me, I just shut down and rarely if ever posted again.

Same thing in the WWF game, I was chill and felt P-good about my stances and then she smacked me in the face and I shut down again.

[Ginngie]

Ginn is playing like dogshit, yes. She seems to take pride in having literally 0 respect for herself as a player, instead relishing on just riding on Mastina and Nacho's coattails, definitely yes. But she's not scum for it.

._.

[Ginngie]

max I dont know what you want answered

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

This is literally the way you push people as scum which you never do as town!

which way is that?

To the left

[Ginngie]

Like there's this post where she's voting Spiffeh and she's townreading Imperium but Spiffeh votes Imperium and she posts a picture of a lady smiling and nodding her head so she likes Spiffeh's vote? what?

that's judge juddy disgusted gif >_>

[Ginngie]

rawr

[Ginngie]

I literally read all of this last night.

and I can't remember reading a damn word here

[Ginngie]

Heartless is lynchbait

[Ginngie]

what are those pictures for

[Ginngie]

what are those pictures for

I mean you drew them but wai

[Ginngie]

what are those pictures for

Are you asking me about the pictures I drew or are you asking about something else?

when you read the next post you're in for a shock \o/

[Ginngie]

I'm a bunch of lines with no order or structure

[Ginngie]

It's also probably hard to understand my tone because I easily flip through trolly, being serious and my "passionate" anger and it really changes at random times

The best advice is this, the shorter the post, the more trolly kinda tone you read it in.

The longer the post the more likely i'm serious and any time I'm actually being analytical.

Anger...well that's easy to spot >_>

[Ginngie]

ALSO, never trust a single post I make after 3am EST as rational, it will never be rational. It will be me laying in my bed going "lol fuck it" and proceeding to do what I know is a really bad idea that will cause stupid shit.

(the self vote for example)

[Ginngie]

DAMNIT THAT WAS MY PAGETOP

~ Exterior night, countryside, gravel driveway: woman lying naked atop unknown person, lit white by highbeams from parked car, [ex. closeup of face] leans in to their ear and whispers: [voice drowned by music, video slowed to lipread] "you'll never have me", steps up, disppears into darkness. ~

[Ginngie]

I'm gonna get bitched at for it but why am I town reading scum hunting using drawings

[Ginngie]

I still remember it lmao

I was curled up ready to go, went to change a song, checked the thread and I'm like, ya know it'd be pretty cheeky and really stir the pot if I did this. Wrote a draft, said nah, and then the cheeky fucker in me went huehuehue and I voted myself, turned away from mah laptop and went to bed smiling knowing I'm going ruffle everyone's feathers

[Ginngie]

Dont tell anyone, but half the shit I do I just wing it and then make it sound like I planned it all along

[Ginngie]

*day four - night three is my pretty standard death night. It's uncanny really.

At least you make it that far :/

I can always take you to LyLo and use you when you're emotionally exhausted to just hand me a win?

[Ginngie]

Spiff?

Do you have any scum reads that aren't on your wagon?

You went from voting Imperium on a baseless accusation, saying Tammy wasn't here in the first 36 hours.
Then back and forth with me and camn with you being shown quite easily how you're wrong.

It struck me as really weird now that I think about it

[Ginngie]

Hey, Gin! How's things?

Work!

[Ginngie]

Hey, Gin! How's things?

Work!

Spoiler:

[Ginngie]

I want a bigger, more angry wagon.

Say the magic words

[Ginngie]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Ginngie]

I mean.. essentially yes. Skulls for the skull throne.

But Who?
I like Spiff as scum. But do I?
Does he deserve another chance? Am I conf-biased?

Nah

[Ginngie]

All I see is trying to fight every single vote on him, try to get one of them scum read, use that to say it's a scum pushed wagon, ergo he's town, and then is no longer today's lynch.

He seriously hasn't spent any time sorting other slots, just attacks on the 3 of Imperium, camn and myself over and over

[Ginngie]

Bruh

[Ginngie]

But maybe he is right.
Maybe I am not being open-minded enough?

?

[Ginngie]

ITHINKIKNOWWHATYOUMEAN YES

YES YES YES

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Looks like someone just had a towngasm

[Ginngie]

Forced how?

There's no reason to suspect him so having so many people doing it is forced

~Bearbert

*bats eyes*

[Ginngie]

Yo Polar, what do you make of Spiff literally attacking and scumreading his entire wagon and never putting any focus anywhere else

[Ginngie]

porque

[Ginngie]

I don't follow that at all.

[Ginngie]

Just that you're

[redacted]

enough to follow "scum wouldn't do this"

and that's exactly why scum do this or that.

[Ginngie]

i cry inside anytime someone says "scum wouldn't do this," because I used to be that person.

Scum wouldn't try to get the claimed cop D1 lynched.
I could seriously go on and on about how every town game I've been fooled by going "scum wouldn't do this"

[Ginngie]

So instead of that just assume everything weird is scum and policy lynch everything? SO SMART

You're talking to the guy that town reads a drawing.

[Ginngie]

Here's the difference.

My shit tells are great because they're unique to each player and every scenario and they rarely let me down.

You're is a generalization that someone could read off a wiki

[Ginngie]

Like I'm starting to maybe come around to the fact that Gin is just really bad at mafia and is more avoiding reevaluating me out of stubbornness than malice

I can understand your anger at me, but what could you possibly have against the horse I ride on?

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Maxwell

[Ginngie]

yo, nancy, dumb isn't a word you redact. Don't do that.

[Ginngie]

I'm not commenting until post game

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ahshoka

WOO

[Ginngie]

Gin what was your reason for leaving my wagon and going elsewhere?

You're boring me

[Ginngie]

The more absent mastina is the more likely it is that she is scum

I actually agree with you on this

[Ginngie]

Read the last game, my reads are unique, so yeah play style.

And if you understood my play style, that would be a huge answer

[Ginngie]

So you expect me to just let you run free ignoring my questions because "that's your style"?

Would you be mad if I said yes?

[Ginngie]

Anyway, vote Tano plz

[Ginngie]

Guys, I think Heartless is an alt

[Ginngie]

This is why alts are dumb

Seeing as we have no alt-ernative, I guess we just gotta suck it up >_>

[Ginngie]

I agree Ahsoka Tano is scummy and worthy of being run up but I'm not gonna take someone's word for it that their original account makes them like 20 times scummier when I can't verify myself

And I'd prefer to focus on camn who is being largely overlooked by everyone for reasons I can't comprehend

People that are over looked get looked at later

[Ginngie]

Ya know m, you never answered my question either

[Ginngie]

Ya know m, you never answered my question either

Like I'm starting to maybe come around to the fact that Gin is just really bad at mafia and is more avoiding reevaluating me out of stubbornness than malice

I can understand your anger at me, but what could you possibly have against the horse I ride on?

[Ginngie]

Nacho, my input, compare it to Frogg who waited for things to happen and then analyzed the fuck out of the game.

The only thing Spiff did was say Tammy was scum for not posting in 36 houtrs

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

I mean I'm going to be doing nothing but crying till sunday so

~ /me commences hugging ~

[Ginngie]

why, Gin?

I vacillate between thinking that's awful and thinking it's brilliant.

I do too, friend. I do too.

Today I was able to hang out with my babydoll for what's basically the last time till Thanksgiving. We are going to different Universities because we both understand that we may not last forever so depending on one for what might not work out is irresponsible.

Today was just amazing, so first she came by the house and we caught up, did some things.

Then we went to go get her hair dyed and I've never been to her favorite and only stylist, named, I funnily enough, Tammy.

She was amazing and we were on a mission. We had a blast experimenting what swatches would look great and decided to do switch the highlight with the base tones and it came out AMAZING AND SHE LOOKS SOOO BEAUTIFUL, like my favorite to date. oh btw, she has a fuck ton of hair, so it took about 3 hours to do. So while we're waiting, I went next door and there is this pizza shop, but they have pizza cones instead.

It's literally a pizza in a cone shape it's amazing. After that we went shopping for new make up because lets be real, she got a dark auburn going, and her eyebrows are just too light compared to the hair so we needed to fix that asap. So we did that, went home, watched Beauty and the Beast(live action). We then went to Sam's Club because she needed stuff for back at her apartment and then other things happened.

Now its all sad because she had to leave because work and then school is starting and I'm not going to be seeing her and it's long distance now added to moving in and one of my best friends leaving as well.

UGHHHHH.

BUT, what was amazing, is the picture I got of her today. We were sitting in the car and she was trying to take a selfie for literally 20 minutes to show off her new hair but she couldn't get anything to work, so she gave the camera to me and we having some fun with it but nothing is working and it seems like awkward posing. UNTIL, she sees this guy almost walk into her car and she does this expression but I caught that moment, and I'm like, "DO THAT AGAIN"

So she did the motions again and I stopped her at the perfect moment and snapped it. She is just phenomenal

Spoiler:

yes i got the damn permission mods

[Ginngie]

Hi, so the deadline meter says 22%

[Ginngie]

Oh, lmao cool

[Ginngie]

Thanks nancy

[Ginngie]

VOTE: tannnnnnnooooo

[Ginngie]

VOTE: vote Ari

[Ginngie]

Does nobody find it alarming that a lurker lynch is literally the only major wagon? Like, the only person with more than one vote is me and thats just wrong. Scum are almost definitely hiding there!

Woohoo! I found my place to start!

[Ginngie]

me hoy min yoy

me annoyed

[Ginngie]

Ari is not who we thought it was. >.>
Anti thought it Nero Cain. Ahsoka knew who we were and apparently, via Cary knowing his identity, has an established meta of lurking as scum and posting as town. Add in the Star Wars theme to the alt (NC is an avid Star Wars fan) and Nero Cain ticks a several boxes. The posting and writing style weren't anywhere close to NC's usual but we figured he could have purposefully modified it to avoid meta.

Ari does have a reputation for lurking more as scum but reading his meta isn't as cut-and-dry as NC's is. I've seen Ari lurk as town before.

UNVOTE:

Hi Ari! ^_^ Let's talk.

this post, is so fucking town

[Ginngie]

hwatkess unvoteeee

[Ginngie]

Ari is not who we thought it was. >.>
Anti thought it Nero Cain. Ahsoka knew who we were and apparently, via Cary knowing his identity, has an established meta of lurking as scum and posting as town. Add in the Star Wars theme to the alt (NC is an avid Star Wars fan) and Nero Cain ticks a several boxes. The posting and writing style weren't anywhere close to NC's usual but we figured he could have purposefully modified it to avoid meta.

Ari does have a reputation for lurking more as scum but reading his meta isn't as cut-and-dry as NC's is. I've seen Ari lurk as town before.

UNVOTE:

Hi Ari! ^_^ Let's talk.

;ljk;

~ a.,fdkd.;F ~

[Ginngie]

hee

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

AV4smtJrIOM

when i'm not busy I'll do somethin

[Ginngie]

how busy am I?

i cant even properly make posts

[Ginngie]

Someone's dead in an hour

[Ginngie]

Its usually me ...so . I've been trying to scum it up a little so I can live longer?

you're not even worthy of a policy lynch

[Ginngie]

has anyone posted the obligatory gay kisss yet?

[Ginngie]

good shit Tammy

*salutes*
o7

[Ginngie]

Lets watch NOT work safe ones!

IM NO LONGER EMPLOYED LETS GOOOO

[Ginngie]

I'M IN LOVE

Spoiler:

with the coco

[Ginngie]

PAGE TOP

[Ginngie]

"I think a tumbleweed just blew through my vagina"

literal gold

[Ginngie]

there hasn't even been premarital handholding, which is something my adults warned me about when i was a teenager.

that was always too risque for my taste

[Ginngie]

Ahsoka Tano is terrible in the way I thought only Aristophanes could make me feel and I want to purge them from this earth.

At first this quote only bugged me because it was vague and used to back up a vote, but now, knowing Ashoka was Aristo, now I really need to know what you meant with it.

If Ari flipped scum, then scumslip, however, this is just a freaky thing and an alt read I guess.

[Ginngie]

They were unknowingly comparing Aristo to himself, scum reading him and he flipped town. Something went wrong there.

Is there something AI here?

[Ginngie]

my mind is your avatar.

Are you saying that it was scummy to think the player was playing like Aristo and not town read the slot because it was Aristo?

[Ginngie]

It read like buddying and trying to fit in. Also, I'm not "completely unfamiliar" with Ginngie's meta. We have one completed game together. I'm not exactly an expert on Ginngie, but we have played together.

wait what

[Ginngie]

I wonder if Shaddoweh is playing this game or bot

[Ginngie]

Did you just admit knowing the identity meant nothing?

Because I see literally nothing in what you're pushing?