Kidney Mafia (Game Over)

[Spiffeh]

Hello everyone I am town

Enjoy your day!

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: hebichan

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p-edit: spiffeh didn't pressure me, I'm making fun of the fact that I ended up confirmed town in two games where he voted me early.

I literally don't remember this ever happening

[Spiffeh]

PYP I was scum and didn't care

Homestuck I don't think I played?

I'm concerned that your instinct is to discredit me after a NAKED VOTE

[Spiffeh]

Maybe I just wanted to address you since it was a naked vote?

Idk, just going, "Lol spiffeh, why are you voting me?" seemed a bit rude and defensive. This way brings about more conversation.

I mean, I could have ignored you, but you haven't exactly done anything else, so I rather hear from you.

[Spiffeh]

Ok

[Spiffeh]

Scum are probably given fake claims for body parts that jive with the town's so stop with the useless speculation pls

[Spiffeh]

Fine, I'm used to it. I play weird because I don't know how people will perceive my posts, and I'm just letting the wagon roll. I'll claim at about 8 or so.

Awful

[Spiffeh]

I could probably ISO hebichan and say something wrong with like every post of hers?

@hebi I've played like one game with you so I take this with a grain of salt but you actually seemed level-headed and productive in PYP

I pushed you hard as scum in that game and you weren't nearly as flatly and self-involved as you are now

After my vote on you I haven't seen you make one post that didn't mention yourself or your wagon

Worst of all you are encouraging people to vote for you while simultaneously threatening to claim at 8 votes? Town never wants to claim prematurely, scum do it to get people off their backs

I don't think you're this bad

[Spiffeh]

I pushed you hard as scum in that game and you weren't nearly as

flaily

and self-involved as you are now

EBWOP

[Spiffeh]

Oh ok ignore me then sorry

[Spiffeh]

I want the people I know to start posting

I also want the hydrae to stop posting

[Spiffeh]

yo spiffeh talk to me whats good

omg you answered my call

[Spiffeh]

I don't have a secondary scum read because a lot of the other stuff is shit posts that I skimmed and hebichan's shit just got transparently worse and worse so I focused on her

[Spiffeh]

Hey hiplop

Cheetory posted some dumb paint thing and nothing else so he's probably scum

[Spiffeh]

I don't either I predict he's trying to call me scum though

PEdit: talking about Cheet's pic

Also the Paint schtick isn't cute just post for real thx

[Spiffeh]

Cheet is actually probably scum btw

[Spiffeh]

I have no words to say

Someone say words to me

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Transcend I somewhat agree with you about hebi's play around the masonry stuff but she completely ignored my call out and while she has strayed more from talking about herself/her wagon recently the content she has provided is still surface level stuff that's easy to talk about (i.e. planning out a masonry that looks like it doesn't exist).

Like I don't think she's once expressed a scum read or engaged with anyone in a meaningful way, at least compared to how she did the one time I saw her as town.

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And I guess my focus on hebi stems from the fact that I don't really have any other reads

I think the problem is that I've played with like ~5 people in this playerlist and all of them have barely posted while the posts of everyone I don't know follow a similar style and run together and my puny brain can't differentiate them

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I would however like to stress that no matter how cutesy and omg-so-funny Can It's paint shtick has been so far, it is IMMENSELY out of character for town!Cheetory to have done nothing productive and give no effort to a game even if it's early, especially after calling him out for it several times

And I don't buy that it's a post restriction either because that's dumb

[Spiffeh]

I've never seen scum!Cheetory

[Spiffeh]

The only person I can say I'm town reading with a reasonable degree of confidence is Zach

Everyone else needs to step it up

[Spiffeh]

Hey Transcend is it bad if I think you might be scum

[Spiffeh]

Actually

hebichan, can you define a masonry for me?

[Spiffeh]

Cheetory stop please just talk to me for real

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I just, genuinely don't care what you think of my play right now as narna is blatantly fakeclaiming at me.

Please explain to me the advantage scum!Narna gets from making up a masonry and claiming wrong information that you can easily debunk.

Why are you not considering that this is really obviously a troll?

Or does the fact that Narna is trolling indicate that he is scum?

[Spiffeh]

No he relinquished his right to fun when he signed up

[Spiffeh]

I am the Bloc of Justice I don't need an invite

[Spiffeh]

ye hebichan prob town just for that

could be overreaction but doesn't look feigned

pedit: okay this wagon is gross

Literally no

[Spiffeh]

You're wrong hebichan is very not obviously town and probably scum

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: gonkdaboop taskmaster

[Spiffeh]

You guys post a lot, I'm like 15 pages behind now

I'm gonna try to catch up tonight and hopefully have some actual reads by the end of it

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys I'm home and about to catch up on the ~25 pages I haven't read who's pumped?!?!?!!?!?

[Spiffeh]

I think Narna is town

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Also Bins maybe

[Spiffeh]

I hate to be the one to say it but there should probably be a rule about not saying actual words in a mafia game

X

[Spiffeh]

I know I'm agreeing with you

I'm also serious when I say they're probably scum

Cheet would never let ME get away with the shit he's pulling if the roles were reversed, so I highly doubt he'd continue to be unhelpful as town when asked multiple times to contribute something

[Spiffeh]

rb's meltdown makes literally no sense

[Spiffeh]

Transcend's handling of rb during his meltdown is scummy af

[Spiffeh]

You're very likely wrong

About me at least

gonkadoop taskmaster is a decent choice for scum

PEdit: @ loppy

[Spiffeh]

Why not hiplop?

[Spiffeh]

hiplop I would like your opinion on Cheetory claiming scum every time he ignores my reach out to him and posts incomprehensible pictures instead

[Spiffeh]

rbslot doesn't green but whatever i'm sure that slot will be lynched some time

off topic but I literally cringe every time you use green/red as a verb to describe what alignment someone will be flipping

[Spiffeh]

Half of this playerlist just needs to drop dead tbh

VOTE: Carcalilly

[Spiffeh]

spiffeh has done nothing at all

Is this supposed to be a reason to scum read me?

Because thats funny

[Spiffeh]

I'm all caught up!

Let me commemorate the completion of my reading by continuing to do nothing

[Spiffeh]

Link me a game with a full doc and a 2 shot doc, I'll wait. The claim is bootsy and doesn't leave rb accountable for blocking any kills or taking night actions.

Wait if there is a doctor counter claim why is anyone other than GR even a consideration at this point?

VOTE: Game Replacement

[Spiffeh]

spiff is so scum its HILARIOUS
PUNY MOUS3

Vote me then bitch

[Spiffeh]

There's no counterclaim. Narna said he isn't 2-shot and it doesn't have to be role madness for there to be two doctors. It's also a themed game and quite a large one at that at 21 players so I really don't see how it's a stretch.

In all the large themes I've played there's never once been two doctors aligned with the town.

But this is assuming Narna is even telling the truth with their claim

[Spiffeh]

Can Narna fucking clarify if they're actually CC'ing the doctor claim please

This is why lying about your role is never ok

[Spiffeh]

hiplop I'm not really thrilled by that post or anything but what exactly do you see wrong with it?

Also did you read the rest of Bins' posts because I have a decent townread there for the rest of her content

[Spiffeh]

Can someone explain what Arcade Pals did that was worthy of so many votes?

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They are a slot I've felt no type of way about and I'm pretty shocked that THEY are the ones getting run up so quickly when there is a wealth of scummy slots who's wagons haven't even been close to the one on AP rn

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What does the ninja portion of your role do?

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Checking whether someone has a PT or not is still fairly strong even in a setup like this. I see no reason for them to be a ninja though and it's mainly why I don't believe the claim.

Docs also are just more valuable.

That's funny

I see no reason they would include the ninja modifier in their claim when they can easily leave it out to avoid being called out for exactly what you're talking about

[Spiffeh]

All of gerryoat's posts are garbage

[Spiffeh]

Speaking of that image

Can It continues to discredit me with funny cutesy pictures, continues to do nothing, and everyone is letting it happen

[Spiffeh]

All of gerryoat's posts are garbage

[Spiffeh]

Are you actually defending Can It's contribution here and acting like I'M the problem?

[Spiffeh]

What I'm saying is that painting cute pictures to "address" my calling them out is causing people to overlook my points

You are Exhibit A (assuming you're town)

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Like can we actually just wagon Can It to get them to do something?

I probably have the most experience with Cheetory out of anyone else playing this game. It would be pretty fucking despicable if he were town here and I know for a fact he wouldn't tolerate this behavior from me if the roles were reversed.

[Spiffeh]

Microsoft Paint pictures shouldn't be your main point of focus in this game, even if the Microsoft Paint pictures scumread you. Can It's stance WRT rb was rather towny. With PereTown around, their beautiful stories are easily translated.

They're not scum reading me as far as I know so that's not the problem

How can you possibly assess if their stances are towny when they aren't even writing about them?

It is immensely frustrating how people continue to defend them for doing nothing, and it continues to PROVE MY POINT.

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Actually I legit might replace out if a slot is actually allowed to get away with not posting words (other than votes)

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@mod Is there any way you can not count posts without words towards the activity requirement WRT Can It?

Even if they just post gibberish to counteract this, it's at least something that clearly illustrates they aren't willing to communicate and will further cement my scum read on their slot.

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Yeah that was p. bad

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First things first is that Narna needs to confirm/deny if they are actually counterclaiming Game Replacement's doc claim.

If not, I will probably vote park Can It and kick and scream about it until people help me lynch them.

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If that happened it probably means the CC is fake

VOTE: Can It

[Spiffeh]

However we went into this hydra with the intention to play this way before we even made the account, and intend to continue playing this way for as long as we continue to play. This is the only post I intend to make that breaks it.

I think it would have been appropriate to inform everyone of this plan during signups.

I don't mean to like chase you out of the game or anything but so far, if it is the case that you planned to post like this from the start for the entire game, it is tremendously difficult/almost impossible for me to understand what you're saying or get a read on your slot and I don't think I'm alone on that. Maybe a happy medium would be to post as many pictures as you want and once every 48 hours explaining what each of them mean?

[Spiffeh]

To be fair torgonitoh's gimmick is equally as annoying in that I can't understand what he's saying either, and 10x less amusing.

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Torgonitoh is actually posting words though

You can argue that Can It isn't heeding the activity requirement by not posting words but idk if you can really stop what torgonitoh is doing

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VOTE: Carcalilly

I guess?

I haven't explored hebi in awhile because her posts responding to my criticism of her seemed pretty town and requesting to be part of the masonry, while somewhat unbelievable, would have risked her being outed really early on for no reason if she were scum.

I'm probably still willing to lynch Game Replacement even if the CC isn't real.

And there are a ton of slots I've either been overlooking or that have done jack shit that are probably lynch worthy too.

[Spiffeh]

hiplop if you're going to scum read me for trash reasons it's better to just be quiet about it

it will save me the trouble of having to yell at you

[Spiffeh]

hiplop do you expect me to just fucking let someone who's town game I greatly respect and who I can easily identify as town when they actually PARTICIPATE get away with doing jack shit and do nothing when I'm continuously ignored about it?

They're saying they planned to do this from the start, which admittedly makes it less scummy, and I've adjusted my vote/given my thoughts on others accordingly

[Spiffeh]

Ugh I have to do this

[Spiffeh]

Sorry for my lack of presence.

If I don't catch up or contribute in a significant way to this game tonight I will be replacing out.

[Spiffeh]

Also the attempt to flash wagon me for inactivity coming from hiplop and Gorkington is both laughable and awful

[Spiffeh]

It wasn't a policy lynch as I explained several times, and the way you're trying to characterize it as such doesn't make me feel very good about you!

[Spiffeh]

It wasn't a policy lynch as I explained several times, and the way you're trying to characterize it as such doesn't make me feel very good about you!

I mean. You made the guy quit his paint shit because you couldn't solve anything with him scumpainting you, then after he does stop painting you flake the game? That's what it looks like to a lot of people, sorry.

I didn't make them quit painting. I actually offered them an alternative that met activity requirements and allowed them continue doing the paint stuff that they joined the game for and hopefully gave me something to work with.

Yeah I've been horribly inactive since doing that and for that I apologize. I'll try to catch up and give my thoughts tonight and if that doesn't happen I'll replace out.

I don't think town!Gorkington trying to flashlynch me for inactivity is a thing regardless of circumstances. When I catch up I will see if this bad feeling about him still holds. I promise I'm not going out of my way to be a jerk to him this game.

[Spiffeh]

do you want to use the line from biochem next where you lurk more as town than as scum?

Yes because it's true.

I only lurked in the last part of Biochemistry when everything was stacked against me. I still had the second most posts in the game behind Creature who has like two words per post.

[Spiffeh]

Gorkington what would you like me to do that will stop bothering you?

I'll catch up after work. I'll replace out if you just want me gone.

I don't want to be the reason you are miserable. I never requested that you stop painting pictures, I just wanted you to explain them/provide content outside of them.

I just kinda think you're scum. And regardless of your alignment I think you're mistaking that as being a complete asshole.

[Spiffeh]

I agree I probably went a smiiiiiidgde overboard and for that I'm sorry. My scum read was more rooted in the fact that you'd respond to my reach outs to you with pictures of Mickey in a dunce cap or your avatar with a "duh" look on it felt like a cute way to dismiss my problems with you and have everyone overlook them. I felt (and still feel) that you would be more responsive to me as Town.

I then started to ramp this up when you continued ignoring me and my worries fell in deaf ears, which resulted in saying that you'd choose this playstyle as scum just so I could get a rise out of you in hopes that you'd end up reacting in SOME WAY that was readable.

[Spiffeh]

No can you please not I'll replace out instead if you want.

[Spiffeh]

If I am the catalyst for you feeling this way I really am sorry, that wasn't my intention.

[Spiffeh]

Can Narna fucking clarify if they're actually CC'ing the doctor claim please

This is why lying about your role is never ok

musculoskeletal system, full doctor.

Here Narna cc's GR's doc claim.

Why is this day still going on again?

[Spiffeh]

No because I'm catching up and want to finish before the Day ends

I should actually UNVOTE:

[Spiffeh]

Assuming Narna's and Arcade Pals' claims are true (which is what I believe) then Narna should be doc-ing Arcade Pals tonight to ensure we get their result tomorrow.

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Don't know what to make of this but hiplop (POWERFUL WARRIOR) is actually more engaged in this game than he has been in recent Town games and I know he prefers scum

I'd like to think he's changed his ways from the lurksack he was before as Town but I'm not getting my hopes up

[Spiffeh]

Bins I'm also not townreading Gork let's be friends

[Spiffeh]

You're bad if you want to lynch me

There is no other way around it

[Spiffeh]

I am null scum on Gorkington and have articulated my paranoid issue with GAME REPLACEMENT so I don't know where you're getting that

And either way I don't know why that matters

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Game Replacement

I'm on page like 105 and really don't feel like reading rn, and don't see myself wanting to lynch anyone other than a counterclaimed doc so I'll just read over Night if I need to

[Spiffeh]

Sorry

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys maybe I'll be helpful today!

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Spiffeh]

Nope sorry

I have town reads on Transcend, Vecna, Arcade Pals, hebichan, gerryoat

I kinda have town reads on Bins and Hopkirk

Gorkington didn't look town to me while he was in the game

[Spiffeh]

I haven't explored hebi in awhile because her posts responding to my criticism of her seemed pretty town and requesting to be part of the masonry, while somewhat unbelievable, would have risked her being outed really early on for no reason if she were scum.

[Spiffeh]

Why are people trying to lynch someone literally fucking claiming a guilty result

[Spiffeh]

I don't like Gork's play around the GR wagon

He had been going after rb for pretty much the whole game if we count when he only used paint to communicate. I find it weird that in the face of a counter claim and no visible hesitance in that read, Gorkington would hop over to the Carcalilly and TKFDGJKSDLGJSDLFKJS wagons as soon as they gained traction.

I also really really REALLY don't buy for a second that he thinks I wouldn't question his refusal to communicate outside of the paintings after I had reached out to him to do so multiple times. His rage about that seemed overblown and while I don't doubt that some of that had to do with being sick of mafia and probably unrelated to alignment, his subsequent interaction with LUV for similar reasons should have demonstrated that my reason for calling him out initially wasn't just my problem.

And he probably doesn't try to flash wagon me in that situation as town. Ever. Especially since one of his largest scum reads had been cc'd.

I want RC to say some words

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I think it would be weird of POWERFUL WARRIOR to try to diffuse the Carca wagon by calling her lynchbait if he was scum with GR (unless Carca is ALSO scum which I guess is possible?).

Why try to limit potential mislynch options like that if your scum buddy is vulnerable?

[Spiffeh]

Sorry I was moving into school, I hope to be here today at some point

[Spiffeh]

Ok

[Spiffeh]

God spiffeh with his

known

lurker scum meta showin' up here

This would be a good point if not that it's 100% false

[Spiffeh]

Hey guys maybe I'll be helpful today!

[Spiffeh]

For real though if I don't post substantially in
24 hours, I'll replace out

I apologize

[Spiffeh]

True

[Spiffeh]

Can everyone shut the fuck up about that because it's not true at all???????

The only time I have "lurked" as scum is the end of Biochemistry when the odds were stacked against me and thought I had no path to victory. Even so, I had the second most posts out of everyone in that game.

I pretty much exclusively lurk as town actually, so please stop trying to use garbage and incorrect meta tells on me

Just for that you have all lost your privilege of my contribution and I am forced to lurk another Day

Thanks for ruining it for everyone, Vecna

[Spiffeh]

Like I get that I have been unacceptably useless so far but I am not enthused to catch up and participate if people are just gonna throw incorrect meta bullshit at me

[Spiffeh]

RC is DEFINITELY NOT on a neutral survivor faction by the way

That is like complete garbage game design if that actually exists

[Spiffeh]

I can see him trying to pull that off as scum just so he can use it to brag about his scum resume in future games

[Spiffeh]

Him not wanting to out his "partner" is the biggest fucking red flag there is?

Why wouldn't a neutral surviving faction want ALL of their members out in the open so scum know not to kill them?

[Spiffeh]

I also think if POWERFUL WARRIOR was genuinely scum reading me he would NEVER let me get away with lurking and escaping everyone's radars.

[Spiffeh]

Nope, you will out your partner that you claim to have. This person will (assumedly) confirm your existence.

This will either be your scum buddy or actually be your neutral partner.

If you are actually a neutral partnership, there is definitely something more to your win condition than "survive". And I doubt that it is all that compatible with the town's.

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hiplop proclaims that he's "catching my ass" but eventually settles on an LUV lynch and let's me continue to skate by.

town!hiplop does not allow me to continue lurking if he's certain I am scum like he's acting

[Spiffeh]

Thank you for your scum claim

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: spiffeh

I was wrong on luv but I have done 1000* more for town than you have. And frankly saying that I'd want to fakeclaim
3,p as scum (aka dick move big time) is crap.

Lol you have literally claimed to be something other than town which automatically puts you out of the running for "who is more town" contest

If you are actually a neutral survivor, I expect you to out your partner. This should be in your best interests because scum will know who to steer clear of when picking who to kill and can benefit both of us.

Failure to do this will convince me that you're either outright lying or have ulterior motives that don't align with the town (which is what I'm currently learning towards)

Second, there is nothing "dick move big time" about trying to pull this as scum. It gives you an excuse to live late into the game and makes other scum factions (should they exist) avoid shooting you would since you pose no direct threat. This move would be beneficial to you as scum and something not beyond your capabilities.

Also, RC fucking knows how I operate and my absence is literally the worst reason imaginable to scum read me. He's either telling the truth about being a neutral survivor and is just going after someone (me) that threatens his life in the game, or he's completely lying and is some other version of scum and should be removed. Either way, let's not follow his lead please.

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If you are actually a neutral survivor, I expect you to out your partner. This should be in your best interests because scum will know who to steer clear of when picking who to kill and can benefit both of us.

Bottom line, if RC doesn't out a partner that confirms what he says, we should lynch him.

Unless there are other results that are certain.

[Spiffeh]

Hi Bins this is me playing the game.

Do you agree with my assessment on RC? I know you felt similarly about Gorkington.

I haven't read like 100 pages but I plan to look through some stuff later.

[Spiffeh]

Since when was Papa Zito in this game

[Spiffeh]

Also fuck everyone that said "stop focusing on Gorkington omg" I knew he wasn't town

[Spiffeh]

(And he probably wasn't a neutral survivor either ayyyyyyyy)

[Spiffeh]

This game was advertised as not bastard.

I'm not certain on the conventional definition of "bastard" but wouldn't a neutral survivor faction fall under the umbrella of bastard? I always figured any win conditions outside of scum's, town's, and sky's were considered bastard.

[Spiffeh]

I mean since you're claiming to be not town you have no say in how anything goes for the rest of the game so

"sure"

[Spiffeh]

Like why are you speaking as if you have any fucking authority after claiming to be something OTHER THAN town? Lmao

You claimed your neutral status so you lose all credibility. You're at the mercy of EVERYONE ELSE to decide whether you're telling the truth or not.

Get off your high horse please.

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Not normal you mean.

Sorry but I would think that Mr. Paragon knows how wincon work being that this isn't the first large theme you've played with third parties

Yeah I've played with an SK

That's the only third party I've played with in a non-bastard game.

You're free to cite some examples of the contrary.

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The fact that you're claiming "survivor" is the thing I have a problem with btw

You can literally claim Day 1 and sit on your ass for the rest of the game. There has to be something more to that.

And the fact that you keep stalling on your partner is makes me pretty confident that I'm right about that.

[Spiffeh]

I was modkilled Day 1 in Saga thanks to my hydra buddy and I didn't follow the rest of that game.

What were the win conditions of the neutral parties in that game?

[Spiffeh]

So you say! But I've done more for town than you and will continue to do more for town than you whether you're scum or town.

RC:
-claims neutral survivor faction that at the very least has some kind of ulterior motive
-says that I'm definitely getting lynched today despite acknowledging in this post that I could be town
-refuses to out claimed "partner" despite it being ONLY beneficial if he's telling the truth

We can stop listening to him now.

[Spiffeh]

Also RC should be able to recognize I'm town with this exchange alone so if he continues on this horrendous crusade it will be clear he is acting only out of self interest

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Spiffeh]

My partner has a power that I would like to be able to go unfettered. It matters!

Frankly the alternative is leaving you alive and if scum that weren't you claimed at endgame and you were alive I'd be highly likely to side with scum since you're sitting here pushing on me.

No. If you're telling the truth and are as harmless as you're claiming to be, it doesn't matter.

So do you expect me to just let you waltz through the game without trying to verify what you're saying is actually true.

I don't know what you'd find so unreasonable about what I'm doing right now.

[Spiffeh]

Anyway, I have 100 pages to read that I will end up heavily skimming

Once I do that I'll give my thoughts on other people

If anyone has specific questions for me you should ask, that would probably make it easier for me to get back into the game

[Spiffeh]

Also a partner that has some ~mysterious power~ doesn't sound like something a harmless neutral survivor would need!

[Spiffeh]

Should I? You're the paragon here why are you insistently deathtunneling a third party who has only helped town if you're not looking for a safe mislynch and to hide behind 'if I knew he was 3p I wouldn't have voted him so I'm town'

Lol this here proves that he's talking out of his ass

It should be abundantly clear that I DON'T BELIEVE you to be a harmless third party. If you actually are what you say you are, there is no reason not to fucking cooperate and out your partner. Instead, you're choosing to shade me at every opportunity and stall the outing even though it's only beneficial for you and town.

And the more you continue behaving this way, the more I am becoming convinced that you have something to hide.

So yes, I will tunnel you until you either give me what I want or until you're dead.

[Spiffeh]

Bins if you truly think it's beneficial for RC to out his partner please vote for him.

That is clearly the only way he'll cooperate.

[Spiffeh]

RC calls me scum for lurking

And now that I'm not lurking and going after him he tries to get me lynched because I dare to challenge him

It's obvious he never had any plans to genuinely evaluate my alignment and seems like he's only concerned with removing those that pose a threat to him.

At the VERY LEAST, this is not a voice that we should consider when making lynch and night action decisions.

[Spiffeh]

Not until you provide some form of proof that you are who you say you are.

In the form of outing your partner.

[Spiffeh]

Because the longer you hold off, the more likely it is that you are making up this whole thing and are just scum trying some gambit to excuse the fact that you haven't died and propel yourself to endgame.

[Spiffeh]

I will preemptively state (because I already know this will happen) that any town player that tries to come in here and tell me that my continued tunnel on this slot is unjustified will feel my wrath either right now or in endgame if I am ultimately lynched because of this.

This exchange alone has proven that RC isn't what he says he is, which means it is very likely that he's harmful to town and should be lynched. Anyone trying to deny this or justify his hesitance in outing his partner is full of shit.

[Spiffeh]

Nope it's pretty alignment indicative

Thanks though

[Spiffeh]

Yep

[Spiffeh]

my cool power is determining whether someone is pine or not!

What is pine?

Also, can you paraphrase your win condition to the best of your ability?

[Spiffeh]

See RC that wasn't so hard now was it?

[Spiffeh]

Ok

The neutral party will be at our mercy, not the other way around. Especially since I'm still not all that convinced that their win condition is just "survive".

I don't know why RC had the authority to drive the lynch last Day but don't worry I am here to prevent that from happening again.

If either of them do anything blatantly against us they will be lynched. If they continue withholding information like they did, they will be lynched. Only complete cooperation will be tolerated.

You are dismissed.

VOTE: POWERFUL WARRIOR

[Spiffeh]

I bet grapes is scum too

[Spiffeh]

Well everyone is crying about me not doing anything so I am here doing things now

[Spiffeh]

RC if you'd like to play to the win condition you're claiming to have I think it would be best to stop antagonizing the people that dare to question you.

[Spiffeh]

RC is loosing townie points.

He literally isn't town so he had no town points to begin with

Also explain why you're voting for me

[Spiffeh]

like hiplop?

[Spiffeh]

Ok go

[Spiffeh]

lol

[Spiffeh]

Bins do you support or not support a spiffeh Lynch?

Lol @ you acting like you have any say in who we lynch

Lol even more @ you acting like I would allow you to lynch me

[Spiffeh]

I'm going back to lurking

[Spiffeh]

Why kill the spiffeh votes

Because they're moronic and I'm obviously town

[Spiffeh]

I am objectively able to determine when I have earned the status of "obvtown", and the time has come

And I think anyone trying to act like I'm being ridiculous is just trying to coast on the momentum of the sentiments to lynch me down the road to keep their options open

[Spiffeh]

My "people I could be convinced to lynch" pool is

{POWERFUL WARRIOR, grapes, Papa Zito (though I'd prefer not to rn given his situation), Hopkirk, gonkbadoop taskmaster, TPFKAP}

Everyone else has been giving me town feels throughout the game

[Spiffeh]

I think that is a fair point

I also really doubt that a neutral surviving faction even exists because it's just awful game design and extremely swingy on the whim of said neutral surviving faction.

They're probably a neutral faction that has certain conditions to meet.

My preference is to lynch scum but maybe removing one of them would be the safer move.

[Spiffeh]

Yeah a common thread you'll find in votes for me is that they're not adequately justified

[Spiffeh]

Lol RC is not gonna be very happy about that

[Spiffeh]

Ok so strings of naked and unexplained votes isn't a thing that's ok anymore

[Spiffeh]

vote: arcade pals

Why?

You were calling for my head all Day yesterday, what makes you vote for AP instead?

[Spiffeh]

I think I want to lynch grapes because he's just ~there~

[Spiffeh]

I should probably reevaluate all of the people I wrote off as town on Day 1 but that sounds like a lot of work

[Spiffeh]

vote: arcade pals

Why?

You were calling for my head all Day yesterday, what makes you vote for AP instead?

[Spiffeh]

vote: arcade pals

Why?

You were calling for my head all Day yesterday, what makes you vote for AP instead?

[Spiffeh]

^ scum

[Spiffeh]

I still don't really think Bins but I'm iffy about Spiffeh

Compare literally any scum game I've played to this game and you'll see why it's horrifically bad to question me

[Spiffeh]

Lol you guys are awful at mafia

[Spiffeh]

Neutral survivors should never be a thing in any game ever

[Spiffeh]

Bins sorry for being obvscum and not trying it ended up screwing you over since your team had like no members