Open 694: Friends and Enemies (Game Over!)

[jjh927]

VOTE: Bombcat

Caught up and how has this not been voted yet

[jjh927]

Nobody should be waiting for me because I am caught up. Ask me anything.

[jjh927]

Why are you still vanity voting Connor

PEdit: Late to the party

[jjh927]

Connor, why did you ask for more pressure on Bomb without moving your vote to him

[jjh927]

I'm not actually sure whether I'm carrying you or not but I'll give carrying town a go.

Vote Bomb with me. Read his iso. It's the most optimistic scumplay ever

[jjh927]

The optimism is in the subtext.

He basically tells everyone to townread him so he can coast on those early townreads which I find to be hilarious

[jjh927]

Then what, he's a null slot who's never going to do anything pro-town?

[jjh927]

Yeah this isn't just pressure I want him lynched

[jjh927]

Please lynch this. I don't want to live in a world where this makes it to day 2

[jjh927]

I mean I've mostly just been pushing Bomb so I get why I'm null and ngl I am not going to stop pushing Bomb until he becomes either useful or dead.

[jjh927]

Stating it repeatedly doesn't make it true.

Do you want to maybe talk about some reads?


Sesq is town btw

[jjh927]

Townreads: Sesq, Wave, Game, Raya
Townleans: Connor, Echo
Null: Transcend, Sunchild, Fenraiser
Scumleans: Flubbernugget, Mantichora
Scumreads: Bombcat


Now you're either going to talk about some reads or you're going to explain why it's beneficial for you not to

[jjh927]

You have nothing original to contribute and then you contribute something original

[jjh927]

Sure

Gimme the thought process though

[jjh927]

The perspective tell here is that only scum should be looking for masons lmao

But yeah, gimme the lowdown on why you think I'm a mason

[jjh927]

You're not convincing me of my role. You're going to help convince me of something else, which is why you're going to talk to me about your thought process

[jjh927]

Nope, I'm trying to give you a shot at not getting powerlynched.

I am not above asking the same question until it's answered

[jjh927]

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

Or you could just answer. I have an answer in my head and want to see how it matches up


What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

That's not how I do this.

I carry on with conversation, then to hammer home the question I put it on the last line. I'm not playing your game. I'm playing mine.


What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

No, I'd say I've invited you to play regular chess and you're trying to eat the pieces

[jjh927]

Pagetopped-

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

Sesq can you vote Bomb because he's scum

[jjh927]

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

And what are those things?

[jjh927]

Okay, so my running theory is that Bombcat is scum who has assumed I am a mason because I started pushing him instead of the wagons at the time, which were Transcend and Sunchild. My reads having them as null supported his line of thinking there. Now, this means that those two are town.

He doesn't want to tell me because he has no reason that wouldn't outright prove his scum perspective.

[jjh927]

When enough other people realise you're scum

[jjh927]

I think you could affect the timing of the powerlynch if you answered me one thing

[jjh927]

What makes you think I'm a mason?

[jjh927]

Well, for some reason hardly anyone seems willing to vote Bomb, which means I need to actually engage with him because nobody else is going to.

[jjh927]

Kinda, but it's a damn good policy. The point of policy lynches is to discourage play like this. Do we honestly have anyone more likely to be scum anyway?

[jjh927]

Wait wtf Bombcat is still holding on to his RVS vote on Echo who he says is obvious town

[jjh927]

I think you should bus him because it would earn you towncred and he's not fooling anyone

[jjh927]

Where is Waveform fishing?

[jjh927]

It became waveform when Flubber said it was and I didn't have the memory capacity to question it

[jjh927]

My only issue rn is that I don't see why scum wouldn't just bus Bombcat. There's too much resistance on a lynch I am pretty sure would go through super easily. So I could be convinced to lynch elsewhere

[jjh927]

My take on that is that it's a terrible idea

[jjh927]

Mason buddies can back each other in a way scum can not. Being conftown lategame is far more important than being conftown early game, and it is possible to do that.

[jjh927]

Seriously, why are people still not voting this? My running theory rn as to why Bombcat's not just been hard-bussed is that a Bombcat flip would make his scumbuddies super obvious, but we need this flip before we get anywhere with that.

[jjh927]

Ftr if he actually thought I was a mason and wasn't just fishing for reactions then he'd have more possible masons he would have outed

[jjh927]

The incorrect votecount says otherwise, but only because you made your vote at the end of a wall post and therefore harder to see

Fixed this.

[jjh927]

Iso him. I'll take both

[jjh927]

Actually Transcend, I'd strongly suggest you iso Echo too, because I think he's probably scum too but I'd like your input on this

[jjh927]

Wave and Sesq is tvt and I'd be impressed if anyone could prove otherwise. Also really surprised that nobody else seems to see it thay way?

[jjh927]

Wave and Sesq is tvt and I'd be impressed if anyone could prove otherwise. Also really surprised that nobody else seems to see it thay way?

This is probably scum.

I'd be interested in knowing why

[jjh927]

Bomb, one-time offer here. Give a readlist and I might stop voting you

[jjh927]

I'm considering town!you rn and I'd really like to see what you're thinking and consistency check and all that snazz. It's not just having a readlist that would make you town here

[jjh927]

I don't know what I expected but I didn't expect that and I guess this is good.


Townreads: Game, Sesq, Wave, Raya, Connor, Egg, Flubbernugget
Townleans: Bombcat
Null: Transcend, Sunchild,
Scumleans: Vedith, Fitz
Scumreads:

is where I'm at right now.

Transcend, come back to the game and talk to me about some of these reads.

VOTE: Vedith

[jjh927]

His recent posts basically made me think he's actually scumhunting. He's pushing Transcend for something I don't think is AI, but I also welcome any attempts to engage Transcend here because he's basically not present in the game.

Iso Vedith.

[jjh927]

So are you just going to scum read everyone who's being blatantly lazy? Because that's just as lazy but with better posture

More that his iso is basically just him calling 5 different people scum with no reasons given even when asked

[jjh927]

This thread is redundant unless vedith wants to extrapolate or trascend wants to contribute to this game

We need new voices

Okay. I've decided that game is town.
jjh is Scum
Bombcat is Scum.

You are welcome

VOTE: jjh

Game is the most obvtown slot in the game rn. Bombcat has more of a wagon than me. Your omgus is bad.

And honestly, I never thought I'd say this ever, but why aren't you shitposting? You always shitpost

[jjh927]

Yeah. Mountainish finished

[jjh927]

I had that whole push on Bomb for ages and tbh I think he's just a tool.

[jjh927]

Can you link me to a game where you don't

[jjh927]

Talk to me about my reads, Transcend. I need to place you before I decide whether I care about your views.

PEdit: Or you could link me to a game where you don't shitpost.

[jjh927]

Not saying it's AI either, just asking you why you're not doing it here because it's kinda odd

[jjh927]

Jj are you a mafia

Nope

[jjh927]

Not saying it's AI either, just asking you why you're not doing it here because it's kinda odd

What's odd about it?
You have 1 game with me.

I dunno, I thought you always shitposted. I'll accept that you don't because it's not an important argument in the slightest.

Why aren't you voting Bomb?

[jjh927]

I read your iso and didn't like about 95% of what i saw

I shall ask you again

Are you a mafia?

Jj are you a mafia

Nope

[jjh927]

No, it's more that Bomb was an existing wagon with 3 votes on him and I wasn't

[jjh927]

Also the fact that Vedith chooses the moment after I unvote Bomb dropping him down from 4 votes to twy and get me wagoning when he scumreads Bomb is scummy af

[jjh927]

It was the leading wagon and Vedith scumreads Bomb for things BEFORE this whole thing took place. This implies to me that he was staying off the wagon in hope that it would happen anyway

[jjh927]

Oi Flub, are you going to get in on this discussion

[jjh927]

jjh is the lynch today.
I've decided.

Convince me

[jjh927]

Sesq is lynchbait and Vedith is actual scum. Trust me

[jjh927]

Oi Flub, are you going to get in on this discussion

Do you want to shed some light on your take on the me-Vedith interactions

[jjh927]

That wasn't the basis of my read. That was a question tacked on the end and I didn't think it was AI. You're discrediting my experience with you and attacking something that wasn't a point against you as though it was, and you won't let go of it.

That one game is not my first time playing with you, though it's the first completed game. It's also not the first game I've read through of yours. You know both of those things and you ignore them to make a point. That's scummy too.

[jjh927]

She does that.

I'll make a mega-case on Vedith if it'll make you happy

[jjh927]

I'm not basing this on meta and a case of the mega variety would show you that so if you're not going to read normal posts then I'll put my formatting hat on

[jjh927]

The idea that literally any of my case on Vedith is meta has entirely been propagated by Vedith

[jjh927]

Vedith's Entrance

Vedith starts off after replacing in by calling 4 different people scum. In order, we have Game, Sun, Transcend and myself. I would consider his entrance to stop at post 691, which is where the meaty stuff is.

-The main point here is that Vedith was accusing a ton of people and making no effort to engage with anyone.

The vote on me

This thread is redundant unless vedith wants to extrapolate or trascend wants to contribute to this game

We need new voices

Okay. I've decided that game is town.
jjh is Scum
Bombcat is Scum.

You are welcome

VOTE: jjh

At the time of voting, I had just started townleaning Bomb and switched my vote over to Vedith. This vote came very shortly after. The state of the wagon is absolutely critical to understanding this.

@mod: It appears you've made the same mistake Sparkles did so I'm not copying your VC, but Egg was and still is voting Bombcat.

-Bombcat was at 4 votes before I switched, or L-3. I was at no votes. Admittedly, VCs showed L-4.
-Vedith scumreads Bombcat for things that happened long before I switched.
-Vedith was not and is not on the Bombcat wagon, and I am the first person he has voted.
-There is no reason for town!Vedith not to have been on the Bombcat wagon when it was at L-3.
-There is little reason for town!Vedith who actually believes both Bomb and myself to be scum not to vote Bomb instead of me.
-Scum motivation lies in having a mislynch driven by town, so scum such as Vedith could stay off the wagon.

-Next, the vote on me immediately followed my vote on him.
-It's an omgus. There is little else to say. This is not RVS. This is outright scummy.
-As attention turned to Vedith and his inaction, he needed to be active in order to secure a mislynch rather than getting himself lynched.

-Lastly, this post means that Vedith believes the whole exchange between me and Bomb to be D1 scum theatre, the concept of which I find ridiculous.

On Meta

I'm not saying anything about Vedith's meta and alignment indicativeness. I said it was odd that he wasn't shitposting. I did not say that it was AI. However, this is the one point Vedith can refute, and so he is using it in order to discredit my case and my skill as a player.

jjh, you tried to give a meta read for me not doing something I did as scum.
And that is the only game you have with me.

You are scum here.

-Here's the big strawman argument I'm talking about.
-This is not my second time seeing Vedith in game. He knows this. Downplaying my experience in a way I cannot directly refute in order to fit his argument is scummy.

Closing notes

-Vedith does not appear to be actively scumhunting, instead choosing to shout at people.
-There is no willingness to explain any of the conclusions he is reaching, despite being asked on a number of occasions.
-His gameplay thus far utterly reeks of opportunism.


Vedith is scum. Thank you for the pagetop

[jjh927]

This still isn't a meta argument

[jjh927]

You can lock onto that strawman all you want, and I've both explained that it wasn't a point about alignment and conceded that you're right about it, but the way you're going about continuing to dispute it is really scummy

[jjh927]

Sesq, did you read my case on Vedith

[jjh927]

Why are you still reasoning with scum

[jjh927]

Could you maybe vote him then

[jjh927]

When I accuse someone of something, and they immediately try to do the opposite of what I accuse them of, I get suspicious.

What's that directed at

[jjh927]

When I accuse someone of something, and they immediately try to do the opposite of what I accuse them of, I get suspicious.

What's that directed at

[jjh927]

I don't know who or what you're referring to

[jjh927]

@Mod Egg is still voting Bomb

[jjh927]

You understand that Vedith is the one who omgus-ed me, there is no goddamn meta in that whole goddamn case, and any and all inferences are based off clearly defined premises and facts? Your criticisms are bullshit

[jjh927]

Fitz, can you read one post for me

[jjh927]

I also think that you are just a dip shit town rather than scum.
But trying to use out of game influence with games that are currently running, I want you lynched for that.

How the fuck is this ever town I have no idea if half of you are even playing this game

[jjh927]

Vedith is in no uncertain terms scum and I have given most of the reasons for that in clear understandable words. Can we please just vote Vedith?

PEdit: Why would you consider Echo"s slot so locktown that blatant scum can't be lynched? Echo wasn't even towny

[jjh927]

Oh yeah, and how in the fuck is Vedith LHF? People seem so averse to voting there it's totally ridiculous to suggest that.

[jjh927]

Also Transcend I don't mind that vote. I thought that Game was obvtown but the post where he suggests that he thinks me and Vedith are TvT but the scum are trying to get Vedith lynched is dumb. But I'd much rather you voted for Vedith.

[jjh927]

Calling it now- it's Vedith, Game and Egg, and I would like to lynch them in that order

[jjh927]

I mainly got flagged to the non-Vedith scum by the people making bullshit counterarguments to my Vedith case

[jjh927]

Reads, town on top, scum on bottom:
Egg
Raya
Gamenburger
Waveform
Sunchild
Transcend
Connor
Flubber
Echo
Jjh (not scum with bomb)
Mantichora
Sesq
Bombcat

I was townreading echo and vedith hasn't done anything to change that.

[jjh927]

So yeah Egg literally made shit up in order to justify their defence of Vedith. Can we decide on one of the scum to lynch

[jjh927]

Null at best? Probably a scumlean.

I was 4th from the bottom and he needed to clarify that I wasn't scum with Bomb, meaning I was down as at least a scumlean.

[jjh927]

If I meme the scumteam will people listen to me

[jjh927]

Oh yeah, Vedith, we have another game together now

[jjh927]

I'm not adapting shit I correctly recognised your towngame

[jjh927]

There's also still no meta in this case.

[jjh927]

Could you point me to some of the parts you deem to be excessively shit and explain why

[jjh927]

If that's how many you consider to be some then yes

[jjh927]

I don't want to read that many of your comments on my comments, so just grab a couple of points from my case and talk about why you don't like them. See? I downgraded from "some" to make it easier for you to understand.

[jjh927]

It was the Vedith case which I am pretty sure you read

[jjh927]

I don't actually know what you're talking about and you're the one who keeps bringing ongoing games into this

[jjh927]

Also I asked for you grab a couple of points from my case and talk about why you don't like them

[jjh927]

Is that a critique of a couple of points from my case

[jjh927]

Could you maybe critique a couple of points from my case

[jjh927]

Could you maybe critique a couple of points from my case

[jjh927]

Oh so you weren't null on anyone and you properly townread everyone from echo upwards inclusive

[jjh927]

Actually I still want the town to vote Vedith

[jjh927]

Oh, so what you mean is you had a shitty townlean on Echo?

[jjh927]

That's a lie I've never said that

[jjh927]

Titus, read page 31

[jjh927]

How on earth do you still think Vedith is town? He's not even tunneling me. He's just accusing me of breaking site rules which I know I haven't broken and trying to get me policy lynched for something he is suggesting should get me banned

[jjh927]

No

[jjh927]

Why are you calling for a policy lynch rather than reporting me?

[jjh927]

@mod do you believe I have broken any rules in this game

[jjh927]

Yes, counterwagon pushing scum, we are

[jjh927]

Is this the Vedith theory

[jjh927]

This is beyond just a little scummy imo

[jjh927]

If he was always this scummy he'd never make it past day 1

[jjh927]

I don't think you get that following the case Vedith has only done things that fortify my scumread of him. If you're scumreading me because I refuse to back off of it then rethink your life choices

[jjh927]

Sesq is probably town.
Bad lynch.

This is probably the only thing that Vedith has said that I agree with and I was under the impression he disagreed with it

[jjh927]

Transcend if your theory is what I think it is, please don't say what it is.

Keep the sesq votes coming people.

The first rule about subtext is don't talk about subtext

[jjh927]

Can we all agree that I'm obvious town

It is with a heavy heart that I finally relent and agree completely with this

[jjh927]

VOTE: Titus

This or Egg, personally

[jjh927]

talk to me about scum!egg

also i'm surprised with how hard you went on vedith you don't have much to say when you were supposedly "wrong".

I could say quite a lot tbh.

I'm absolutely disgusted at him as a player for his counterarguments and disregarding of points in favour of one that wasn't even a point. PLing for something that isn't a policy. He reported me for something I didn't do because it fit his whims. He was actually being towny towards the end of the day but I didn't want to believe he was town there because this genuinely lowers my opinion of him. I was very, very wrong.


As far as Egg goes I still think he's scum. Defending Vedith there is a solid way to get post-flip towncred, but I still think his arguments were shit tier fabrications. Titus is more likely scum though.

[jjh927]

Titus is more likely scum though.

Why?
Where are you on bombcat?

Bomb is locktown.


Sorry about how lurky I'm being rn. I'm distracted IRL, but definitely not VLA. I could be putting more time into MS and I'm kinda just not

[jjh927]

I'm ready to jump back into this game.



Sesq, why do you TR both me and Titus?

[jjh927]

{sesq, connor, bombcat}
{jjh, titus}
{trans, vedith, egg, havingftiz, flubber}
{game, raya, wave}
{nobody is confscum}

[jjh927]

I still want a Titus wagon but seeing as that's still a vanity vote I too could look into Transcend. I'm not exactly great at reading him

[jjh927]

Could you give us the rest of Connor's reads?

[jjh927]

I'm gonna struggle to sheep Connor then

[jjh927]

Are you saying Connor was in your mason PT like "We should lynch sesq" and didn't discuss anything else

[jjh927]

I've played with her before and there was a very similar scenario in which she got MLed as town for the same shitty reasons with the same reactions, and my gut here tells me she's town like it did then.

[jjh927]

List them again and I'll link when I'm back home

[jjh927]

Sorry I didn't respond to things as intended yesterday. Pretty much fell asleep after work. Will try again later.

Trans, please give as much info from Connor as possible

[jjh927]

VOTE: Transcend

[jjh927]

My thoughts were that that claim came from someone bored about the speed of the game

[jjh927]

The mason claim pretty much had me but now it's a scumclaim

[jjh927]

And in doing so you provided a massive risk of counterclaim and produced a load of info on how people reacted to your claim? Yeah, that's not town

[jjh927]

Guess again

[jjh927]

Egg, talk to me about why you implicitly believe Transcend memeclaiming mason is nai here, because not everything Transcend does is nai.

[jjh927]

I was gonna do that yesterday when I got home from work but I mashed my index finger in a door and slept instead. I'll do it when I get home in a couple of hours instead

[jjh927]

Does Transcend memepost simply because he is Transcend? Or perhaps for some greater purpose?

[jjh927]

Here's the real deal. It may be in his nature to meme but he knows that and uses it as scum. And I don't believe he would do so self-destructively. This is an excuse, and not an original purpose.

Scum!Transcend got bored with the game and decided to claim mason in order to bait out at least 1 mason / secure a mislynch on sesq / stop himself being bored, and probably all 3.

[jjh927]

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=71877

This was the game. I replaced in the in-game day she got lynched iirc. My gut said town, but my head said scum and there wasn't anything I could directly quantify. Also I was trying to get nightkilled so didn't defend her at all.

This lynch feels the same. You can have an actual rebuttal to your points tomorrow, and do hold me to that. Not working any more days this week so time is a thing.

[jjh927]

Oh yeah that was all you and that makes the claim super pro town all of a sudden

[jjh927]

Did you read up to her lynch?

[jjh927]

I feel like I want to link that game places anyway so I can complain about that slot I replaced into more, so I guess I don't mind if this doesn't go anywhere

[jjh927]

VOTE: Titus


This isn't

[jjh927]

Titus, do you want to post more about things that are actually important

[jjh927]

This isn't sudden momentum. Game is the only surprise on the wagon so far

[jjh927]

I find all the posts about resistance on lynches to be dumb af.

If you want to get somewhere with those, point to the people who are resisting certain lynches and call them scum rather than pretending you're being useful

[jjh927]

There's no stats in there, just wave believing at least one of those 3 is scum and that none of them would bus.

It's arbitrary and crap and kinda scummy tbh

[jjh927]

You're using a flawed grasp of statistics to push a point? I believe people who don't properly understand how to use stats in this game tend to reach for it when they're out of meaningful things to say but want to appear like they're still contributing.

If we're missing the point then re-articulate it

[jjh927]

If we're missing the point then re-articulate it

[jjh927]

Okay, so the word "statistically" implies you have some figures to throw around here unless you're misusing it

[jjh927]

It's statistically more likely that, on picking a random person in the game, they will be town rather than scum.

You comparing to that or is that something you've not accounted for? Or are you just trying to sound fancy while saying Egg is probably town?

[jjh927]

Math, why is Sesq scum? I might be able to appreciate a new perspective, especially one that I think is basically conftown at this point

[jjh927]

I don't see scum!Trans replacing out there ever.

Oh and also
VOTE: Havingfitz

[jjh927]

Oh I got prodded. Look, I'll be talking the serious shit on saturday and no sooner because work. No lynching anyone before then

[jjh927]

I am almost speechless because that there is a conscious effort to reduce gendered language and Flub is sitting here like "That's just posturing as feminism"

[jjh927]

How about fuck no- wave is probably town, this day is not atrocious, there is plenty of area for meaningful discussion and we do not want to rush this

[jjh927]

"Let's quicklynch so we don't have to compromise lynch" is basically your argument here?

I'm fairly confident it's a Fitz/Game/Flubber scumteam rn

[jjh927]

No, Flubber, try talking to me about this. Why do you want to quicklynch and end the day early?

[jjh927]

In this case you literally called for a quicklynch to end the day early. I flagged this and then asked you a question in order that you might be able to explain some town motivation behind it, which should generate more useful content.

It's called scumhunting and you should try doing it.

[jjh927]

No, your play this game has been completely observational

[jjh927]

If the day isn't "productive" for you it doesn't mean it's not for other people

[jjh927]

I've gone back and forth on Game. He was high up in my townreads at one point. RN I think he's more likely scum than Egg

[jjh927]

Take off your tinfoil hat

[jjh927]

The meta there is a nice bonus but I didn't like the things he said during or after that post so it's not the only thing either. No quicklynching though

[jjh927]

The other people in this game could do with showing up. I want to talk with Egg. No rush though atm.

[jjh927]

Fitz suggesting mason claiming is up. Where do you stand on that post and the one immediately after? Not so much the core concept but the posts themselves.

[jjh927]

Wait, Bombcat? Why is Bombcat scum? There's a whole pile of shit in his iso, but the parts where he actually says things are really town-minded.

[jjh927]

Oh wow I thought Wave had more votes and Fitz had less votes and didn't even realise Sesq was a wagon atm

[jjh927]

Who is the scumteam, Wave? This is how we need to be approaching today, not singular lynches.

[jjh927]

Flub, Sesq, and Game? See, Sesq is still probably town, but I'm with you on the other two.

Also try answering questions in ways that don't cause people to have to search through your iso. It's unhelpful at best

[jjh927]

Why would you get annoyed? You have exactly 0 reads. There is no reason your play aligns with town.

Also there's intent to hammer so you need to claim.

[jjh927]

Could you list your reads rather than being what I would consider obstructive? Also you're being rude

[jjh927]

VOTE: Flubbernugget

Okay let's do this instead

[jjh927]

Your reads are shit though. If you are town- Wave is town, sesq is town, and all the scum is in your 3/4 town section

[jjh927]

I can't speak for myself as far as outside perspectives go, but there's no way that Bombcat or Mathblade are scum.

[jjh927]

Sesq and Havingfitz are not the only options. I switched to Flub because at least half the game scumreads Flub and he should be a viable lynch. Also I'm seeing Havingfitz as town and Egg as scum now

[jjh927]

VOTE: Havingfitz

I regret switching to Flub

[jjh927]

Aaaah you're right but the reason for the defence makes me want to lynch him 3 times. I'll go back to Flub if people will follow me
VOTE: Flubbernugget

[jjh927]

I would like everyone to rank Flub, Fitz, Egg and Game in order of lynching preference. My preference rn is Flub, Fitz, Egg, Game.

[jjh927]

Let's have the Fitz wagon.

The 4 people I asked people to list are the only 4 people I will ever lynch.

VOTE: Havingfitz

[jjh927]

I've been wrong 3 times now but I'm gonna be right 3 times with Game, Egg and Sesq. Watch me break even

[jjh927]

I wonder if Sesq can guess who we're waiting for

[jjh927]

Sesq actually hasn't stated her reads. Those 4 names were when I asked everyone to rank them in order of how much you want to lynch them. Yesterday. When two of them were still alive.

[jjh927]

VOTE: Sesq

[jjh927]

Game and Egg are scum 2 and 3. This game has been solved for some time

[jjh927]

Wait until the mason pt is released because it's not great for either of us

[jjh927]

I think that's this setup, really.

The longer masons live, the easier the game gets for town. After scum killed Flubber, the game from my perspective was me, 2 locktowns, my mason buddy and 3 other people. I wish I could say I would have lynched Sesq under other circumstances but I wouldn't have, however I did scumread Egg and Game for a large proportion of the game- just not as much as whoever we lynched all the other days.

[jjh927]

Paragon or rising star.

Which is more suitable?

Niether.

Townreads:

Game, Sesq,

Wave, Raya, Connor,

Egg

, Flubbernugget
Townleans: Bombcat
Null: Transcend, Sunchild,
Scumleans:

Vedith, Fitz

Scumreads:

is where I'm at right now.

VOTE: Vedith

I don't see scum!Trans replacing out there ever.

Oh and also
VOTE: Havingfitz

Nonetheless...good job masons for bringing the game home for town.

My reads halfway through day 1 and me voting you?

By the end of day 1 my scumreads were Vedith, Egg and Game. I literally had a meme I didn't post about that but I lynched people that I scumread that other people would back me on.

I voted you because you were scummy, and please remember that while I was wrong I was a major driving force behind near enough every lynch in the game including at least one after I was dead. Never running up a mason was an extremely important thing in this game and is why I pushed for lynches far harder than my reads justified.

[jjh927]

Just glad I won this time.

Last time I played this setup I was confirmed scum by the moderator and made it to LyLO somehow lol

How did that happen

[jjh927]

Just glad I won this time.

Last time I played this setup I was confirmed scum by the moderator and made it to LyLO somehow lol

How did that happen