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[Caryatid]

drew them because couldn't words and sometimes when i can't words i can scumhunt in a different way.

Oh. Well then. I could obviously be wrong here but I believe I do in fact know who you are now! Hi! <3

(Yes, this is me. Only just now. Figuring it out.)

RE: you having concerns on my reads, even knowing who you are I must apologize, I still don't understand what your issue with them was.

I am embarrassed that I'm not doing a better job of secret alting but I guess it's not unreasonable that almost¹ everyone who has a hope of reading me based on meta has figured it out.

Are you still scumreading Heartless? I've felt pretty good about them lately, been nodding along as they post stuff and their tone has seemed okay to me. pedit: I can see that's a yes but I'm leaving this in because I want to express that I don't understand and I want to.

My problem with 306 was less the what and more the why/how, if that makes sense. I don't really care about whether we agree with reads on page 13 or not because it was early. The way you were describing your reads, not the content of them, something about your tone but it wasn't a strong read just a worried feeling. But you are someone I think I'll be able to read eventually so when I get worried early I'm okay with sitting with it for a while because I know it will come clear and I trust myself.

1. There is one more person I am expecting an "oh! hi!" from.

[Caryatid]

Spoiler:

Is it bad that my first thought was "why is nancy posting a picture of lesbininjas"?

lesbians in niqab and hijab made my day. Thank you, nancy <3

~ <3 ~

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Are you still scumreading Heartless? I've felt pretty good about them lately, been nodding along as they post stuff and their tone has seemed okay to me. pedit: I can see that's a yes but I'm leaving this in because I want to express that I don't understand and I want to.

Yes.
I just don't see them as town.
I don't get it.

I always have gotten it before.
I've always gotten them as town when they are town.
Yet here I just don't really see it. I don't know how to explain why I don't see it. I don't know how to explain why this equates to a scumread. But I don't see them as town and I'm sorry that I can't but I can't lie and say I do when I don't. Sure it's probably a stupid read but it's also one which I don't really feel like I should feel stupid for having.

[Caryatid]

MaxwellPuckett (4)

~ Prism, Heartless, Ginngie, camn

This wagon is bad, and you should feel bad. Except scum, they're okay except that they're bad just in a different way.

camn (2)

~ Ahsoka Tano, Spiffeh

This wagon is scum, and you should feel proud for being scum.

Can you talk about your Maxwell read at all? Is it more townreading Max or more confidence in your scumreads elsewhere or something else?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Btw please don't lynch Ahsoka Tano for a while.
I want to at least try to get Jae's input there because that's something they could maybe actually help me on even if they're "out" of the game as it were.
I asked them and they said they'd try, but they don't have time for it tonight.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Can you talk about your Maxwell read at all? Is it more townreading Max or more confidence in your scumreads elsewhere or something else?

It's a combination of factors, actually.

Maxwell is a nulltownread, in that there's not really much to go off of but I don't actually get a feeling that Maxwell's scum. Gut, essentially, tells me that Maxwell just isn't scum.

This is indeed bolstered by my confidence in my

actual

scumreads. I have three rather solid ones I have great confidence in (even if I suck at explaining them). One of them, Heartless, was on the wagon and not likely in a way which would be a bus. Which brings me to another part. When you wagon on players, sometimes you just get a ~feeling~ about the person you're wagoning, off of the circumstances behind the wagon. The circumstances behind the wagon on MaxwellPuckett suck. They don't feel towndriven at all; they don't feel like a lynch at scum at all. (The opposite of Spiffeh, which was 100% towndriven and felt like a lynch on scum.)

I realize there's nothing really tangible to talk about, but then that's not all too surprising when you've got a slot who has not contributed much, and yet would do so regardless of alignment. (Especially given that replace-out request.)

[Caryatid]

Btw please don't lynch Ahsoka Tano for a while.
I want to at least try to get Jae's input there because that's something they could maybe actually help me on even if they're "out" of the game as it were.
I asked them and they said they'd try, but they don't have time for it tonight.

Ahsoka is at L-3 right now, and I'll try to buy you time if I can, but the deadline metre is at 22% (down from 34% yesterday), so Jae needs to get to this in the next day or two because we have plurality lynches in this game.

[camn]

Plus, if Ahsoka doesn't start acting town I'm back on that wagon for reals

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Ahsoka is at L-3 right now, and I'll try to buy you time if I can, but the deadline metre is at 22% (down from 34% yesterday), so Jae needs to get to this in the next day or two because we have plurality lynches in this game.

24 hours should be enough. <3

[Caryatid]

Can you talk about your Maxwell read at all? Is it more townreading Max or more confidence in your scumreads elsewhere or something else?

It's a combination of factors, actually.

Maxwell is a nulltownread, in that there's not really much to go off of but I don't actually get a feeling that Maxwell's scum. Gut, essentially, tells me that Maxwell just isn't scum.

This is indeed bolstered by my confidence in my

actual

scumreads. I have three rather solid ones I have great confidence in (even if I suck at explaining them). One of them, Heartless, was on the wagon and not likely in a way which would be a bus. Which brings me to another part. When you wagon on players, sometimes you just get a ~feeling~ about the person you're wagoning, off of the circumstances behind the wagon. The circumstances behind the wagon on MaxwellPuckett suck. They don't feel towndriven at all; they don't feel like a lynch at scum at all. (The opposite of Spiffeh, which was 100% towndriven and felt like a lynch on scum.)

I realize there's nothing really tangible to talk about, but then that's not all too surprising when you've got a slot who has not contributed much, and yet would do so regardless of alignment. (Especially given that replace-out request.)

That makes sense that it would be a circumstantial/game state read, especially since Max was a counterwagon to Spiffeh. I'm hoping the replacement will help. Looks like we'll either get Leon, who should be legible, Cheetory, who is the awesome but I doubt I can read him, and Regfan, who I haven't played with.)

[Polar Vortex]

Can you talk about your Maxwell read at all? Is it more townreading Max or more confidence in your scumreads elsewhere or something else?

It's a combination of factors, actually.

Maxwell is a nulltownread, in that there's not really much to go off of but I don't actually get a feeling that Maxwell's scum. Gut, essentially, tells me that Maxwell just isn't scum.

This is indeed bolstered by my confidence in my

actual

scumreads. I have three rather solid ones I have great confidence in (even if I suck at explaining them). One of them, Heartless, was on the wagon and not likely in a way which would be a bus. Which brings me to another part. When you wagon on players, sometimes you just get a ~feeling~ about the person you're wagoning, off of the circumstances behind the wagon. The circumstances behind the wagon on MaxwellPuckett suck. They don't feel towndriven at all; they don't feel like a lynch at scum at all. (The opposite of Spiffeh, which was 100% towndriven and felt like a lynch on scum.)

I realize there's nothing really tangible to talk about, but then that's not all too surprising when you've got a slot who has not contributed much, and yet would do so regardless of alignment. (Especially given that replace-out request.)

That makes sense that it would be a circumstantial/game state read, especially since Max was a counterwagon to Spiffeh. I'm hoping the replacement will help. Looks like we'll either get Leon, who should be legible, Cheetory, who is the awesome but I doubt I can read him, and Regfan, who I haven't played with.)

Regfan would be awsome as fuck. Relatively easy to read, but an excellent player

[Spiffeh]

Now that mastina has demonstrated her inability to actually reconsider my alignment and literally just attached "this is scum" to like every post of mine, we are now free to ignore her

[Spiffeh]

The worst part is she's probably town

Still have my problems with camn but I think TTH brought up some good points regarding her reaction to Ginngie's self vote that seemed town and resonated with me.

I don't really have any solid scum reads anymore.

Town: {Heartess, NoticeMeSenpai}
Townlean: {Imperium, Prism, Ginngie, Caryatid, VNB National Plan}
Null: {Kmd4390, MaxwellPuckett, camn}
Scumlean: {Ahsoka Tano, Polar Vortex}
Scum: {}

I have vague town feelings about too many slots and that makes me uncomfortable.

I'll explain this more after I get home from work, especially the Polar Vortex read. Feel free to ask me other questions in the mean time.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

The worst part is she's probably town

Still have my problems with camn but I think TTH brought up some good points regarding her reaction to Ginngie's self vote that seemed town and resonated with me.

I don't really have any solid scum reads anymore.

Town: {Heartess, NoticeMeSenpai}
Townlean: {Imperium, Prism, Ginngie, Caryatid, VNB National Plan}
Null: {Kmd4390, MaxwellPuckett, camn}
Scumlean: {Ahsoka Tano, Polar Vortex}
Scum: {}

I have vague town feelings about too many slots and that makes me uncomfortable.

I'll explain this more after I get home from work, especially the Polar Vortex read. Feel free to ask me other questions in the mean time.

Here's the thing.
I have literally read snippets and not had any drive whatsoever for this game.
Yet I had my attention directed here and so have been mildly checking with new posts.

I don't think scum posts this.
I know mastina scumreads Spiff and what I saw of him I was thinking was different from Civ maf in a tangible manner but I was also thinking that Civ maf was a fucking spamfuckery of ego and I can understand why anyone would be different from that.

But this?
I don't think this comes from scum.
I know this doesn't mean much considering Spiff's not the one on the chopping block right now but I figure while I have thoughts and feelings about the game I better throw them out there.

[Caryatid]

Jae, do you know what's making it harder for you to get into this game? Is there anything we can do to help?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

<3 <3 <3

But sadly, no, I have no real idea. Sorry.
A thing with this game was I kept looking at posts and really just seeing... words. I couldn't pick anything alignment indicative from them.
I don't know what would cause that, honestly. It could just be my poor mental health, or it could be that I'm losing my love for mafia. Not sure.
Could just be my new job where I am pitted against people that caused me to lose my job before so I feel like I'm already questioning everything from everything wrt interactions and end up burnt out before I even start to do it for fun. < which would be a contender if I felt this way about every game but I don't.

I can guarantee that I feel super shitty about leaving mastina to hold the fort and then not bothering to even keep current to try to get reads. Especially since she did the same to me in For Us.
I am following a little more closely than I was. So if you point me to some posts I can try to give off the cuff thoughts there, and maybe that would help me get into the game.
Honestly what would help most of all is a ride or die read getting wagoned. I remember being super disinterested in a game once before and copper got wagoned and I realized he was town for the tone of a post as he realized he was going to be the D1 mislynch and that really helped drag me back into caring about the game. I'd rather that not happen here, but y'know...

[Spiffeh]

Jae what about that post specifically makes you think it doesn't come from scum?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

I don't really have any solid scum reads anymore.

I have vague town feelings about too many slots and that makes me uncomfortable.

These, Spiff.

I understand that any scum can fake this.
I don't believe it's faked.
I especially don't believe that you take THIS approach as scum to the game.
I know I'm not caught up on the gamestate and the gamestate may very well require you to take this approach.
I know I don't know you well enough to make such a judgement call.
And all the same I just... Don't think this is scum coming from you at this point in time.

Call it strong gut.

[Spiffeh]

Uh ok

I mean you're right so good job?

From this brief interaction I feel that your head of this hydra will be a lot easier for me to interact with so if you could get into the game ASAP that would be cool

[Heartless]

Sure it's probably a stupid read but it's also one which I don't really feel like I should feel stupid for having.

VOTE: AHSOKA TANO

I have no energy to fight this and even if I did I'm not entirely sure I'd want to but even so that said I'm just.
sigh.
Not happy with this.
Not optimistic it'll flip scum and even if it did not optimistic it'll actually do anything to help us.

what the fuck ever, mastina. seeya on the other side of the scum flip.

[Heartless]

Plus, if Ahsoka doesn't start acting town I'm back on that wagon for reals

well ok she failed to show yesterday when she said she would but i don't know does she have to outright come out and explicitly SAY she's avoiding the thread for you ppl to catch on ....?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

what the fuck ever, mastina. seeya on the other side of the scum flip.

Also side note hot take from someone who has no meta on them as a player and no idea of the gamestate.

This very strongly reads like someone who is trying to fake confidence in a wagon flipping scum. I don't believe the sentiment here, basically.

[nancy]

[nancy]

[Spiffeh]

SNIPED

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