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VOTE: mulch

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Mulch is town for only having two words in his first post.

I'm actually scum.

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I hardclaim masons with Nero.

VOTE: MarioManiac4

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[Mulch]

I'm not joking. Nero is actually raging at me in the chat cause he wanted to keep it secret but that's not how mulch rolls lol

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Why do you think claiming mason on day 1 is a smart pro town move?

It probably wasn't, but I wanted to spend a game for once not scumread

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Anyway I request that you all sheep me and Nero now that we are confirmed town anyway

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VOTE: creature


Why didn't you say this in the PT -_-

[Mulch]

? I'm able to post...

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Phone posting from the bath.

You are night only masons?

No, Nero is apparent having trouble posting lol

[Mulch]

So if most people don't think you could be scum will mafia shoot you?

What?

[Mulch]

Dayvig: TwoInAMillion

I'm actually pretty sure this is scum already.

Nero and I both think he's towny...

[Mulch]

I want to switch to Mario but Nero wants to keep it on creature for some reason, lol

[Mulch]

Like I'm pretty heavily scum reading Mario right now on meta but since Nero I think is a better town player and I think mason co unity right now is important I'm not going to switch to Mario.

[Mulch]

Are you actually voting a mason right now?

[Mulch]

Scum mulch is not this self aware this early on. He tries to play cool as scum.

I was very self aware when I was scum with you. What are you talking about?

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Nah I disagree.

I'm not usually one to go down this road but could you maybe give examples?

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Bro nobody will ever meta read me. I've never lost as scum in normal games.

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Nero won't respond to me lol ( I think he might be offline) so I'm just gonna hope he follows me here

VOTE: Mario

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Lol

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VOTE: mariomaniac4


Happy everybody?

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Why are people pushing Mario?

These words come from scum many times

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Why ignition?

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Mario is confscum

Yeah I'm not getting why they think ignition is town when my first gut reaction to them is scum. Makes it more likely Mario is just fabricating reads

[Mulch]

He did this as scum last time. Wondering if he would do it again. cloud that is

[Mulch]

I feel like his reaction to my wagon of trying to find reasoning is inquisitive and less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread.

You don't think scum could easily say "why is Mario Wagoned"?

What other scum things have you seen in the thread?

[Mulch]

Mario is confscum

Yeah I'm not getting why they think ignition is town when my first gut reaction to them is scum. Makes it more likely Mario is just fabricating reads

Lol Mulch is actually scum this game.

Why do you think so?

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You said ignition was a town read because there were more scummy things in the thread, and then said that a post AFTER it was the only scummy thing in the thread.

And what ignition did is actually one of the most classic newb scum things to do.

[Mulch]

Or, a post 2 posts before it. Your townread ignition because I made a scummy post in post 88 form your Pov?

I want you to go into reasons for why I wouldent say that as town, cause I just said it as town.

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I feel like his reaction to my wagon of trying to find reasoning is inquisitive and less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread.

Your 88 is the first scummy thing in the thread imo.

What's more you actually only responded to 88 after you made this post, which means you hadn't read it yet. So I will ask again : what were the scummy things other people did I'm the thread that were more likely to be scum than ignitions post?

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Your using a strawman. In order to justify your town lean, you said other things in the thread were scummier. Now your saying that the reason other things were scummier is because you town leaned the statement. I'm asking for the cause of the town lean

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Mario, why did you say that you townread him because other thing were scummy in the thread (as well as that you thought it was inquisitive) if there were no other things scummy in the thread and the only reason things were scummier was because you townread him in the first place? The sky is blue because of pixels. Why? Because the sky is blue.

That's the format you took here.


Besides that it's one of the most incredibly easy things for scum to do to openly and nakedly ask why to the first town wagon, because they know they can't take heat for that.

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VOTE: osuka

Let's end this RVS wagon on MM4.

Not feeling it. You got gut right now?

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Holy shit that wallpost makes me want to cry.

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Alright. So probably some of you are wondering where I'm going with all these questions to Mario.

Well, first off I sort of gut scum him due to his first couple of posts. Obviously that's not super accurate but from what I've played with him he's pretty free flowing and active and he seemed to get too serious too quickly for me. I mean, yeah, in general that's equal equity to both scum and town but it just seemed unusual for him.

Then he sort of says 2mil is scum. The thing is, 2mil is lynchbait as town which dosen;t exactly MAKE him town but honestly when I had read him I read it as town through meta, which yeah Mario woulden't have known but still. Mario pushing him for it (however jokingly) COULD come from town that dosen't really know 2million but could ALSO come from scum who want an easy target. So, yeah, something to keep in mind that ringed my alarm bells. I also sort of townread him with his brutally honest way of role fishing of me, which I'm like 99% sure that newb scum are worried about being accused of and is really inquisitive town. So EVEN if Mario is saying his dayvig comment in 39 is a joke (which dosen't exactly seem like a joke to me?), it's still weird.

Honestly 83 from Mario is pretty horrible too. He basically is subtly saying "when I'm town I am lynchbait." The thing is, town are much more likely in my experience to just say it openly, yeah I get lynched a lot as town. Even then, they get accused, which is why scum sorta want to try and avoid it. But Mario's comment there has the EFFECT of saying he is lynchbait without the acceptance of the consequences of scummyness he would get if he said it openly. So yeah, a pretty generally scummy thing there.

He also starts out with 2 townreads which one of them I can easily see (creature), who already is getting involved and seems towny at least by gut, but then ignition. Ignition for me maybe I'm having a different reflection cause I've played with him on mafia universe, had an uncharacteristically weak opening by just asking "why is Mario being wagoned?". Not only is this weird for him (which I can't fault Mario for) but it's a super super super typical newb scum opening, so from mario PoV I cannot for the life of me how he sees this as town or newbtown even. Like, if your scum and a town is being wagoned just asking why he's being wagoned is a way for you to get "towncred" without taking heat. Mario's an experienced player, he should pick up on this.

On the other hand, I do find it a little bit TOO scummy to be scum to openly townread those that are townreading you, but that's only a small plus in Mario's direction.

Let's go through 90. I want to know why he townreads Ignition who was actually the second scummiest imo in the thread so far to Mario. He says to

why

he is town, says 2 things: 1) He's being inquisitive, which is a surface level reasoning that COULD come from town!Mario but again I'm outlining in the stuff before why it's sort of weird for him to say that, and then 2) "less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread"


Now, at this point I'm wondering, what exactly are the things "other" in the thread that are so scummy that they make ignition look towny on comparison?

Mario then uses circular logic, which again isn't neccecarily scummy but just something weird, where he basically goes on a loop of saying that other things were scummy BEACUSE ignition's post is towny...as some way of expaining that ignition's post is towny in the first place. See the problem here?


Another thing: He is super confident I'm scum this game, (92) based on 88 by him. Now, I am actually townreading the fact he picked up on it, because imo saying you mindmeld or anti mindmeld is something town and scum do, but it's definitely not something ONLY scum do. And I'll be a little LAMIST here and say that it IS something town do because I'm town That's why the level of confidence he's expressing in his scumread of me is weird. He's super sure, and he's voting me, based on one post that I actually think makes sense? If I disagree with his first gut reactions, less likely we are on the same team. To put it simply.


Here's the thing. Even after all these things, I'm not sure Mario is scum. I can see bewildered town who just wanted to get into things early, thinks I'm scum for pushing bullshit on him (which, to be fair, if he really is town he could think I'm scum trying to make a fancy case), and honestly in my experience it's a common mistake for town to have to townread those that question his wagon. (More specifically, I think it's a town POV to townread those that question your wagon because you know the wagon is bad because your town). But shoulden't Mario at least see where I am coming from here? It's super hard but I consider him a good quality player that might be able to avoid confirmation bias, especially cause he just finished a game where he TvT attacked someone until the end. Shoulden't he realize that I have a towny mindset right now?

I'm hoping this big posts clears it up, basically. So my thoughts are clear.

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In other news I think that big wallpost unfortunately is NAI cause town have been known to ask pointless questions as well as scum, but tbh I think it's something to keep an eye on because a lot of those qustions could be answered by reading the thread, and that person could be trying to look busy and scumhunting when they really aren't. SOME of the quesitons are good but most really aren't. It also just fits the mold of typical scum catchup post.

I think UnaBombah is slightly more likely to be scum cause Cloud has replaced out as scum before.

And finally, I do think Ignition's one naked thing on Mario is uncharacteristic and typical newb scum.

I think that if Ignition is scum, Mario is town, though. They could be better scum than I thought but I don't think they are partners.

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Honestly I've seen too many town caught up in bad logic and turn to flip town that I can't really say I'm confident Mario is scum :/

But yeah some discreptancies are there.

Honestly probably think Ignition has a better chance of flipping scum, lol, after all that. Want to see more posts by them before I make a decision.

[Mulch]

Well, first off I sort of gut scum him due to his first couple of posts. Obviously that's not super accurate but from what I've played with him he's pretty free flowing and active and he seemed to get too serious too quickly for me. I mean, yeah, in general that's equal equity to both scum and town but it just seemed unusual for him.

Is this meta or what you expect from MarioManiac4? Do you have any examples of him being less serious at game start at the beginning?

Even if so I do not agree that getting serious "too quickly" is scummy and there are other factors besides alignment which can effect this.

Also, can you explain what you mean by serious? I seem to recall him counterclaiming you as mason. Did you think that was serious? It seems you're biasing yourself

Yeah, it's meta. This is why I said "from when I've played with him" lol . Check out um Ircher's last game. I agree with you that it's not scummy in general (I think I actually said this in the post when I said it's equal equity to town and scum) but it's scummy for Mario in particular. He's serious cause he's getting townreads early and the dayvig thing on twomillion was seemingly a joke but had hidden scumread underneath. Honestly, I think even his jokes are a little forced.

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Then he sort of says 2mil is scum. The thing is, 2mil is lynchbait as town which dosen;t exactly MAKE him town but honestly when I had read him I read it as town through meta, which yeah Mario woulden't have known but still. Mario pushing him for it (however jokingly) COULD come from town that dosen't really know 2million but could ALSO come from scum who want an easy target. So, yeah, something to keep in mind that ringed my alarm bells. I also sort of townread him with his brutally honest way of role fishing of me, which I'm like 99% sure that newb scum are worried about being accused of and is really inquisitive town. So EVEN if Mario is saying his dayvig comment in 39 is a joke (which dosen't exactly seem like a joke to me?), it's still weird.

This sort of thinking doesn't make sense to me. You're acknowledging that 2mil is "lynchbait as town" so it shouldn't be scummy for MarioManiac4 to have a scumread there, right? You're even saying he wouldn't have known, this seems more like a null point.
Also, this seems to be assuming that 2mil is town? I understand you said they're lynchbait as town, but that doesn't mean they can't be mafia here and it seems you've made a number of assumptions where 2mil is town without really explaining a townread on them.
I'm not sure what you mean by saying he was role fishing you, as you claimed mason early on.

Exactly, it's more of a null point. It's not something town would know, again I said this lol (that it COULD come from town). But I also know it's opportunistic of wolves. It's a null point to be sure but yeah.


How did I not explain my townread? I already told you it's meta and the fact that he had brutal role fishing. Read the game, man. lol

"The claim is real" other things are the role fishing.

Uh, how can you bring up the fact that I townread him for role fishing and still say you didn't see where I townread him? I don't get it. Explain what you were thinking here when you asked me for this right before citing that you disagreed with my reasoning.

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Honestly 83 from Mario is pretty horrible too. He basically is subtly saying "when I'm town I am lynchbait." The thing is, town are much more likely in my experience to just say it openly, yeah I get lynched a lot as town. Even then, they get accused, which is why scum sorta want to try and avoid it. But Mario's comment there has the EFFECT of saying he is lynchbait without the acceptance of the consequences of scummyness he would get if he said it openly. So yeah, a pretty generally scummy thing there.

I disagree with you here, in my opinion he did say this happens pretty openly, I think you're explaining things that aren't there in the second half of this. Things that don't really make sense.
I don't think anything related to that post made by him was scummy and your reasoning feels manufactured.

Explain this. I've made it pretty clear. If town says "I'm lynchbait", or scum do, they accept the fact that that's almost universally scumread. Mario did it in a more subtle way that has the intended effect "welcome to Mario games" but isn't saying it outright.

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He also starts out with 2 townreads which one of them I can easily see (creature), who already is getting involved and seems towny at least by gut, but then ignition. Ignition for me maybe I'm having a different reflection cause I've played with him on mafia universe, had an uncharacteristically weak opening by just asking "why is Mario being wagoned?". Not only is this weird for him (which I can't fault Mario for) but it's a super super super typical newb scum opening, so from mario PoV I cannot for the life of me how he sees this as town or newbtown even. Like, if your scum and a town is being wagoned just asking why he's being wagoned is a way for you to get "towncred" without taking heat. Mario's an experienced player, he should pick up on this.

Why can you easily see a Creature townread? I think it is too early to judge him either way.
Again, I don't think he is particularly involved so far.

You bring up past experience playing with Ignition but they functionally have one post - it's definitely too early to have any sort of read there.
I'm confused, you say you've played with them but then call them newb scum. Are you overselling your experience with them? You also say their opening is uncharacteristic... just how much experience do they have?

I don't think it's reasonable to expect other people to pick up on your viewpoint when you don't explain it and in my opinion the reasoning is dubious at best.

Creature is obvious town already through meta, which Mario would know too. You'll learn this. I don't even have that much experience playing with him, just have seen him in games here and on MU, and he just feels off. I mean... it's also not too early. Their own post just nakedly saying "why" to a wagon is scummy in itself no matter what he is, newb or not.

What do you mean about expecting to pick up on my viewpoint? The fact that he townread that dude is off as fuck, even you can't think this lol

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Let's go through 90. I want to know why he townreads Ignition who was actually the second scummiest imo in the thread so far to Mario. He says to

why

he is town, says 2 things: 1) He's being inquisitive, which is a surface level reasoning that COULD come from town!Mario but again I'm outlining in the stuff before why it's sort of weird for him to say that, and then 2) "less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread"


Now, at this point I'm wondering, what exactly are the things "other" in the thread that are so scummy that they make ignition look towny on comparison?

Mario then uses circular logic, which again isn't neccecarily scummy but just something weird, where he basically goes on a loop of saying that other things were scummy BEACUSE ignition's post is towny...as some way of expaining that ignition's post is towny in the first place. See the problem here?

Again, I think it's too early for either of you to have a read on ignition. I do think it is weird that MarioManiac4 says there are scummier things in the thread - that shouldn't affect your read on ignition, and what are the scummier things in the thread? How confident can you be this early?

It dosen't effect my read on Ignition, except to make me think Mario and him aren't SvS. IDK why you think it's too early to have a gut scum read on that weird first post by him.

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Another thing: He is super confident I'm scum this game, (92) based on 88 by him. Now, I am actually townreading the fact he picked up on it, because imo saying you mindmeld or anti mindmeld is something town and scum do, but it's definitely not something ONLY scum do. And I'll be a little LAMIST here and say that it IS something town do because I'm town That's why the level of confidence he's expressing in his scumread of me is weird. He's super sure, and he's voting me, based on one post that I actually think makes sense? If I disagree with his first gut reactions, less likely we are on the same team. To put it simply.

I don't believe the post you quoted shows him being super confident you are scum. It feels you are attributing things that aren't there. If you haven't picked up on it yet, I'm starting to suspect that you are scum due to the amount of things you say that seem untrue. You go on to explain how confident he is that you are scum but he never actually said that, and once again we are in the early stages of the game.

He's super confident for early game. He's scumread me only out of everyone, said "lol mulch is actually scum this game", and has voted me for the entirety of the period. It's a huge difference from even me who has a scumlean on him but woulden't think to be that confident in saying it.

It actually is an uneasy level of confidence for this early game. I mean, he's not even focused on anyone else.


I haven't said anything untrue. State another flat out lie and I will tunnel you for the rest of the game.

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Honestly probably think Ignition has a better chance of flipping scum, lol, after all that. Want to see more posts by them before I make a decision.

Why do you feel like you can read their alignment off of one post? It seems like you are posturing around this read.

Cause it's a scummy post. Third time you've asked that man.

I wasn't exactly sure about what you meant by posturing but google said "intending to mislead others"

Uh, probably misinterpreting this so maybe you can rephrase the posturing I've done or explain what you mean by posturing

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I think UnaBombah is slightly more likely to be scum cause Cloud has replaced out as scum before.

I do not like that you are pushing this angle at all.

Why? It's a valid thing, he's even said he dosen't like scum in the past and he replaced out in the Alchemist game.

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I dunno I'm not really getting scummy vibes off you cause I can see where your getting your thoughts but there were like maybe one or two scummy things in that big post, mostly saying I said things that weren't true, which is false, and maybe the attitude which seems pre dispositioned to dislike me, like you already decided you didnt like me and then forced your narrative behind it.

But I guess you can see your reasoning. If you continue to vote me, though, when I've given clarifications on this stuff, you might be scum, cause I think I've been decently transparent.

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Oh yeah and the fact you said that I didn't give reasoning for the townread on 2mil and then commented on how bad the reasoning was right after lol

[Mulch]

Woo, I am here!

...and now I must go to sleep.

I'll read the thread in ~6hours.

VOTE: MarioManiac4 because last time I followed his lead, we lost the game because I played poorly.

No wait...!

I don't like that you voted MarioManiac4 here - pressure was starting to build up between him and Mulch. I'd also lean more towards Mulch being scum at this point where you posted than Mario.
Lastly, it looks like you are trying to coat your vote as completely random but it falls onto a forming wagon. It feels like you are trying to shirk responsibility for your vote by playing it off as random.

VOTE: UnaBombaH

This is a really shit point here, they were quite obviously doing a random/joking vote so he obviously wasn't choosing beteen me and Mario scum. It was random, I think? Do you actually think scum here would try and just add on to a wagon for the lolz? More importantly, even if they were, they obviously would not be able to keep the vote for long cause they can't justify it, so it dosen't even make sense for them to do it in the first place. Unless he was planning to space out for the next 14 days... there's no point to him doing it as scum.

I'm not sure whether this is a BAD point or a scummy point but this is horrible reasoning for Una scum here.

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VOTE: Yumeko

I'm not putting the most effort I've ever put into a town game and getting tunneled like this when half the things you are telling me is that you disagree rather than it's scummy.

Unless you unvote, I am vote parking this for the entire game.

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Yes, meta can be analyzed day 1, yes I am townreading him for blatantly role fishing which is something scum don't do early, I don't think Mario is scummy for jumping on 2mil, it was sneaky by mario and even if it wasn't it's still scummy, I'm scumreading Ignition based on what I've got on day 1, your fucking hypocritical to saying I have confirmation bias on ignition, he's literally only focused on me scum the entire day so yes he's confident. NO I'm not confident I've said that multiple times and the fact that your trying to blatantly misrepresnt what I am saying is shit, I am saying truth, and idgaf about Cloud doing it multiple times but he's done it once and it's something to keep in midn.

You vote me and your only thing you've said is SCUMMY is "doing things that aren't real to further your read." EVERYTHING else is you saying you disagree, which isn't scummy in the slightest.

Your tone is even fucking saying you disagree and not that it's scummy. Unless you can't see how town!mulch is thinking these thoughts, I';m not scumy.


And I'm not voting you because I think your scum, I could give one fat rat's ass at this point, I'm doing it because I refuse to be treated this way when I'm actually putting effort into a fucking town game and your already starting some confirmation bias tunnel on me and I Even FUCKING humored you with a detailed eplanatuion into every single one of your points.

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Tell me creature what's the point in putting in effort?

Is there an advantage?

Is there an advantage trying to explain every single thought process I possibly can on Mario when I'm scumread for not explaining things before, and still be called out for "stretching reason"?

What is the point?

Should I just not explain? Or should I explain?

[Mulch]

Why are people pushing Mario?

Fine.

THIS POST IS ABSOLUTE SHIT


VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: Ignition

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VOTE: IgnitionUMSC

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VOTE: Yumeko

[Mulch]

Your probably right but it's so FRUSTRATING what they are doing to me. It feels so satisfying. Also why don't u scumread that post of UMSC also notiice they haev posted in other games but not this one

[Mulch]

LMAO if only I could pretend to be scum always...I'm literally 1000X more convincing as scum than town

[Mulch]

That's the iorny I litearlly wansttt I was just rambling about my thoughts

[Mulch]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf



They are actually super long this game but yeah I'll shut up

[Mulch]

Flavor Leaf

(4): Nero Cain, Mary Saotome, Mulch, Theta Alpine

MarioManiac4

(3): osuka, wavemode, UnaBombaH

Mulch

(2): MarioManiac4, Yumeko Jabami

UnaBombaH

(1): Creature

wavemode

(1): TwoInAMillion


This is what it spit back out at me

[Mulch]

[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/qi29MoLjWNPUI/giphy.gif[/img]

[Mulch]

honestly the fact you said that lol

[Mulch]

I think that's a big overreaction and you could be scum.

[Mulch]

OK Mario is either scum or a power role, this isn't his vanulla townie tone

[Mulch]

So mafia it would be great if you could deal with him so I don't have to wifom killing a power role ty

[Mulch]

There could be a double voter

[Mulch]

Lmaaaaaaooooo



Also Nero I am really feeling this flavor leaf wagon atm. He is too self aware and I don't feel like a villa would be pressed to the point of puedo claiming vt so early?

[Mulch]

The longer Mario keeps his vote on me the scummier he is

[Mulch]

He is too self aware and I don't feel like a villa would be pressed to the point of puedo claiming vt so early?

b/c he was like "oh just lynch me" and you think that's a VT/scum fake claiming VT?

I mean.

He's either scum who made that line, or town who inadvertently claimed vt. You don't advocate for your lynch as a power role

[Mulch]

That's a bad vote.

[Mulch]

What's wrong with the flavor leaf wagon?

[Mulch]

Does post 200 seem forced to you, creature and Nero?

[Mulch]

Does post 200 seem forced to you, creature and Nero?

From this I'm pretty sure Mulch is town

Why lol

[Mulch]

VOTE: Mulch

EBWOP

Is this a serious vote?

[Mulch]

VOTE: Mulch

EBWOP

Is this a serious vote?

Yep

Why do you scumread me?

[Mulch]

Gut

Fix your gut.

[Mulch]

Ye

[Mulch]

Good pointy. Uhh but idk who to vote now. Nero barely talks in the PT lol

[Mulch]

Ignition

[Mulch]

Nero barely talks in the PT lol

The last time I'm going to ask: is this for real?

Can Nero confirm this one more time?

I even had to double-check the wiki to see that Normal game-Masons are always Town, so if you are, I think I'll just sheep you to victory.

Nero will confirm

[Mulch]

And?

[Mulch]

Yeah, and your votes doing such a good job accomplishing that

[Mulch]

why do you think I'm scum?

[Mulch]

And? The first one is cause early game if you gave a severe different first reaction it means your minds are not in unity, not a big thing. Other 2 things are NAI

[Mulch]

VOTE: mario


Your basing a scumread over a fact i didn't tell you on one of my first games on the site?

[Mulch]

I never said you should be townreading me, I said it's NAI. You manipulative scum.

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UNVOTE:


Wait Nvm I misread what you wrote

[Mulch]

Mario link that in sunshine?

[Mulch]

Good point. Well, I said that but i actually did care . Remember Twoface?

I don't think I've ever played a game when I've not been self conscious

[Mulch]

Lmaaaaaaooooo

[Mulch]

I think mario and mulch are both town

I think Mario is a power role and I'm a Mason.

[Mulch]

What about Mario? Do you think he has valid reasons to scumread me?

[Mulch]

Yes. He's kept a vote on me the entire game and also has not scumread anyone else for the entire game, so it must be a deep scumread

[Mulch]

Imo a big scumtell is lack of read development.

[Mulch]

Who else would you wagon?

Ignition

[Mulch]

1. You scumread people because you disagree with them.
2. You care a lot about how people view you.
3. You are incredibly concerned about my vote on you.

I mean, these things are somewhat valid but at the same time even if AI Not enough for me to be his sole scumread.

But he's played with me and knows 2 and 3 are NAI, I think.


And 1 well that's NAI early game too.

[Mulch]

Just the fact Mario hasnt moved his RVs vote lol

[Mulch]

I don't want to lynch flavor today

[Mulch]

can you point me to dumb gambits and fakeclaims made after page 2

Is my hyperbolic exaggeration AI to you?

I'm wondering if this is w/w interaction. Seems weird.

[Mulch]

VOTE: massive

[Mulch]

He's right that it's super similar to giga's game. I would give him a day.

[Mulch]

He may not be fully town lol

[Mulch]

Why does the town as a whole keep role fishing me and Nero? Leave us alone.

[Mulch]

Well


I'm just asking to stop role fishing. If you consider that playing the victim...

[Mulch]

We do have day talk

[Mulch]

[Mulch]

I don't think he would be that obvious

[Mulch]

Mary would prefer your other scumread ignition cause I mirror your thoughts there

[Mulch]

Nero confirm our Mason claim for these idiots that are having doubt lol

[Mulch]

I'm actually going to retract the Mason claim cause I'm starting to scumread Nero lol

[Mulch]

Was super confident day 1 and thought we could create masons out of nothing but he's being a bit like large 203 lol

[Mulch]

Go massive or mario imo

[Mulch]

Una is obvious town, so is Dunker, we aren't masons, and Mary is towny.


Massive is playing weird, I think would be a good wagon. Just cause your lynchbair dosen't mean your town.

[Mulch]

I'm getting town vibes from a lot of people posting, lol.

This is why massive is a good wagon

[Mulch]

I've learned that Mulch spamposting is actually a scum strategy.

Good thing I'm not spamposting, right?

[Mulch]

VOTE: Mary

nah

[Mulch]

112 is just so fabricated and atrocious and I also scumread him on meta, can we please start a wagon on this guy

[Mulch]

SORRY

It's 200 and 252 that does not seem like a real progeression.

WRONG NUMBERS

[Mulch]

on what meta do you scumread him on

have you ever even played together

shut up fake mason

Ye I've seen his games and he's played in Turbos in MU. And it's a gut thing too, like he seems like he was scum in one of the turbos I played, and he seems more subdued this game. And those posts are shit regardless of meta

[Mulch]

mulch if i sheep you will you townread me?

I'll townread you anyway, mason partner!

VOTE: IgnitionUSC

[Mulch]

IgnitionUSMC is getting replaced -_-


Well, hopefully it's someone like...Carcalilly that's super obvious to read. If it's RC the paranoia will be unbearable lol

[Mulch]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Mulch]

i'll join in eventually. If you want to quick lynch me, go for it, then analyze my wagon. don't feel like putting the effort in right now to defend. Like, I just got four votes and I hadn't even posted yet. I've only read this page. I'll get to it in a bit.

this opening post doesn't come from town imo

agreed it's super scummy. But like, yeah. I think Flavor has been townier with future posts

[Mulch]

Let's wagon Ignition!

[Mulch]

I am tempted to wagon the wallposter

[Mulch]

Honestly super townie: Unabombah, Dunkerdoodles, Creature, Mulch

Towny enough: Nero, twoinamillion, osuka, Theta, Flavor

Stuck in the null zone: Eddie, Daevs, excession, peregirne, yumeko, Mary, Zoki, Flairs

Honestly pretty scummy: Ignition, Massive, Mario

[Mulch]

Mulch remind me of your reason for scumreading massive

Gut and a weird one reaction to Mario which made no sense as the one thing to respond to

[Mulch]

Lmaaaaaaooooo

[Mulch]

Sold

VOTE: yuneko

[Mulch]

VOTE: yumeko Jabami

[Mulch]

What do you think of Mary Mary quite contrary?

Pure null

[Mulch]

Interesting.


Hey Nero would you say I'm being more fun to play with than in large 203

[Mulch]

.

[Mulch]

Dafuck lynchbait?

[Mulch]

Wagon the wallposter osuka lol

[Mulch]

Push dunkerdoodles I push you

[Mulch]

Push dunkerdoodles I push you

then i would suggest pushing me
because if you have not noticed i happen to be voting dunker right now

so i assume this comment means you town-read dunker
why

We are the actual masons. No joke.

[Mulch]

VOTE: Excession

Uh

[Mulch]

VOTE: Excession

Actually could see this

[Mulch]

oh

well

why in the world is he refusing to answer my question then
he cannot expect to get people to join him in votes if he provides no reasons at all as to why he scumreads someone

Dunkerdoodles and I are night only masons

[Mulch]

If you think this is posting a lot lmaaaaaaooooo

[Mulch]

Do you think yumeko or Excession is more likely scum?

[Mulch]

We are joking about masons lol but I heavily townread him. Consider it a de facto Mason claim. Like, I'm really good at reading him and he's town this game

[Mulch]

Lol

[Mulch]

What's with me and the Mason claims this game lol

[Mulch]

Mario counterclaimed when he realized Mulch was actually claiming that he and Nero were masons. There's probably scum somewhere in this interaction.

?

[Mulch]

...

[Mulch]

I feel like one but not two of Excession and yumeko are wolf

[Mulch]

Excession and wall poster are probably tvs

[Mulch]

I know I'm not supposed to be asking this, but: In your vision, why did Ignition choose to replace out?

Scummy

[Mulch]

Replace out. Whose his replacement again?

[Mulch]

Want to wagon him?

[Mulch]

Mrw boon says he can read me

[Mulch]

Nah dunkerdoodles is town and so is una

[Mulch]

Isn't "haha" your scumtell? Or is it not

[Mulch]

Mary that line felt scummy

[Mulch]

The wallposter and exxecuter Iz tvs tho

[Mulch]

VOTE: Excession

[Mulch]

Yeah I don't like it either, it sounds good but is that really towns first reaction?

[Mulch]

Let's wagon Excession, I have a gut feeling he flips scum

[Mulch]

Gr not bad

[Mulch]

Why not go Excession

[Mulch]

Mulch
Dunkerdoodles
Creature


I'm 10000% these are town


Theta
Nero
Boon

[Mulch]

Creature and dunkerdoodles and mulch are literally lock town.

[Mulch]

1. Mulch
2. Dunkerdoodles
3. Creature
4. UnaBombah
5. Nero Cain
6. Theta Alpine
7. Boonskiies
8. Twoinamillion
9. Wavemode
10. Osuka
11. Eddie Cane
12. Davesaz
13. Zoki77
14. MarioManiac4
15. Assemblertows
16. Mary Soatome
17. Yumeko Jabami
18. Flairs
19. Massive
20. Game Replacement
21. Excession

[Mulch]

Town to scum ye

[Mulch]

19. Massive
20. Game Replacement
21. Excession

[Mulch]

idk guys. Feeling Mary mislynch even though their technically scummy. dunno how to describe it. I'm really feeling exession flips scum

[Mulch]

Flairs your scum right? Talk to me. In Alchemist's game you were so much more confident and this is a crappy point

[Mulch]

I still think he's scummy.

I think Flairs hits scum. Who's with me?

[Mulch]

VOTE: Excession

Kill this with fire, sheep me maties

[Mulch]

Hello dude can you vote your scumbuddy excession?

[Mulch]

Osusa vote excession

[Mulch]

can you give me a reason

Well I could bullshit some reason like his tone was off and he pushed on a weird thing and didn't take entire gamestate into account and he used doubtcast language and he is being selective in what he thinks and he has incosistencies and isn't going with the thread vibe...




OR I could tell you the real reason, gut.

[Mulch]

lol I hate that it's probably true.

[Mulch]

Read it and let your gut take over

[Mulch]

your list blows

[Mulch]

Can we compromise on game replacement?

[Mulch]

Can we compromise on game replacement?

[Mulch]

Mothetfucker

[Mulch]

We are putting this game into fucking mulch hands now. We lynch Excession

[Mulch]

Sheep me or lose this fucking game you already Wagoned my 7th highest town read

[Mulch]

Nero are you scum, wtf

[Mulch]

Why did u say we could lynch you if you were a power role boon? As flavor

[Mulch]

What do you mean it activates on death

[Mulch]

Mulch why do you think I'm scum?

I changed my mind ur not scum

[Mulch]

What do you mean it activates on death

enabler.

That means your enabling one of us when LIFE

[Mulch]

I think it would be hilarious if Nero was a Mafia BP, and then he gets stuck in a position where he can't kill me.

LMAO

[Mulch]

wooo im getting townread for once

<3

[Mulch]

Mulch is also town. Let me go point out the rest of my town reads.

How do u know?

[Mulch]

I don't read the wall posts

[Mulch]

Who's Scum, Mulch?

Excession

[Mulch]

Game just became scunsided lol

[Mulch]

Mario are you bussing Excession right now?

[Mulch]

But I'm literally masons with dunkerdoodles lol

[Mulch]

mulch is scuk

No I'm not, so your either wrong town or scum



I wish people would try to stop reading me. Lots of heroes nowadays who want to give me my first scum loss without realizing that your not gonna catch me if I'm actually scum

[Mulch]

Mario how was that scummy in the least?

[Mulch]

You wish people would try and stop reading you? This is a mafia game, everyone gets read.

My town read on you has evaporated, you haven't been playing like your used to. Are you scum?

[Mulch]

I'll instant lynch Mario if he claims vt, he's a power role or scum

[Mulch]

DAFUCK????

[Mulch]

And?