Large Normal 206: World Record Mafia! (GAME OVER)

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Nero Cain

[MarioManiac4]

Why are you claiming?

lol

[MarioManiac4]

Wait, it's not a joke?

I CC mason.

VOTE: Creature

[MarioManiac4]

Because I'm smart and therefore everything I do is smart and protown.

[MarioManiac4]

Dayvig: TwoInAMillion

I'm actually pretty sure this is scum already.

[MarioManiac4]

Doesn't matter now, he's dead.

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Meh I thought that you had a chance of buying it =p

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mulch

omgus

[MarioManiac4]

Why are people pushing Mario?

Why not?

MM4 games in a nutshell.

Ignition and Creature are my early townreads.

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like his reaction to my wagon of trying to find reasoning is inquisitive and less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario is confscum

Yeah I'm not getting why they think ignition is town when my first gut reaction to them is scum. Makes it more likely Mario is just fabricating reads

Lol Mulch is actually scum this game.

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah it could but I somewhat doubt it as newbscum's first reaction.
Your 88 is the first scummy thing in the thread imo.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario is confscum

Yeah I'm not getting why they think ignition is town when my first gut reaction to them is scum. Makes it more likely Mario is just fabricating reads

Lol Mulch is actually scum this game.

Why do you think so?

Saying "this player is scum because I disagree with them on a read" is BS for reasons I shouldn't have to go into.

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No. I said that Ignition is the second towniest player in the thread (I technically didn't specify that Creature was stronger but) and that's because most things are NAI.

I don't think town would say that because it's obviously false and I don't think anyone would believe it.

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Townleaning things are less likely to be scum than NAI things. I don't think this is particularly difficult.

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I feel like his reaction to my wagon of trying to find reasoning is inquisitive

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what were the scummy things other people did I'm the thread that were more likely to be scum than ignitions post?

I'm asking for the cause of the town lean

pedit: TWIM was null for me, I was just joking in RVS.

Creature feels more involved than I see him be as scum. I feel like his statement was somewhat inquisitive, although this is a read I will have forgotten about by page 10 most likely.

pedit2: That isn't what I said

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like his reaction to my wagon of trying to find reasoning is less likely to be scum than most other things in the thread.

Townleaning things are less likely to be scum than NAI things. I don't think this is particularly difficult.

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@Mulch, 114: literally wtf

How does jokingly dayvigging TWIM allow me to use him as an easy target?

That's not what I was trying to say in 83; I rarely get mislynched in 2017 (although it does happen I guess), but often I do get wagoned for what basically amounts to no reason.

I actually don't really know how to read new players. I have 3 town newbie games recently; in all three I townread a scum until lylo/they claimed scum. Most of the time I townread the other. So BoP is a bad argument to use on me. Besides, I don't really see that as newbiescum play. I'd have to get some links to believe it.

Again, you're twisting my words here. Nothing was scummy until your post IMO; I saw it all as NAI. Something more likely to be town than other things in the thread == something less likely to be town than other things in the thread. What is legitimately so hard to understand about this?

Saying that someone's reads are made up because they're not the same as yours doesn't make any sense actually.

I can't see where you're coming from with this one, really. (And that isn't exactly what happened in 1929; I TvTd a player for one half of a day phase.)

@Yumeko, 117; It might be too early but I don't think so. Creature has started off and remained engaged with the game and I think he's town because of that.

(Also, Mulch shading the unabomabah replacement is ridiculous and scummy, but this isn't a response to.anything so)

@Mulch, 118; It wasn't even partially

@Mulch, 123; I was expressing a scumread. It's strong for this early but I don't think it is overall.

@Mulch, 135; lol.

@Ignition, 166; Yes.











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[MarioManiac4]

Who is scum?

[MarioManiac4]

:/

[MarioManiac4]

Oh no I have been caught by Ignition's clever trap. Whatever shall I do.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulch/10

[MarioManiac4]

BYF sends me a red Role PM

[MarioManiac4]

I'm not interested in townreading people because they asked for feedback on their towniness.

[MarioManiac4]

@Yumeko; Sure, it could be faked by scum. Most things could. Is Creature likely to be faking this? No in my opinion. I've seen Creature as scum before. He basically just disappears.

I said I townread Ignition because imo he was less likely to be scum than everyone else (No, Mulch, that doesn't mean everyone else was scummy) so it was true to some extent, and I wanted to get the game going because I didn't see anything scummy at the time.

Yumeko, do you townread anyone?

Right now, I'm wondering if Ignition is legitimately dumbtelling with his recent posts or if he is scum reaching.

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can you point me to dumb gambits and fakeclaims made after page 2

[MarioManiac4]

If Ignition is scum, he deserves an Oscar.

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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72770

Just want to point out here, I was in this large game from the very beginning, and I had 22 posts. Mulch was in that game.

I came in around Day 4, Day 5, called out the remaining scum team perfectly, then got night killed. I don't do pressure votes. If you all want to lynch me, that's on you. I stay out of early games.

And scum won that game.

[MarioManiac4]

What does calling the scumteam accomplish if nobody cares about your reads because you're lurking the entire time? Correct reads don't read games, lynching scum does.

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It is!

If my vote on you is wrong, though, I have the rest of D1 and plenty of dayphases in which to lynch scum. It's not a huge deal if I'm voting town mid D1.

[MarioManiac4]

1. You scumread people because you disagree with them.
2. You care a lot about how people view you.
3. You are incredibly concerned about my vote on you.

[MarioManiac4]

Hm. No, they aren't. I believe I even recall you telling me I should be townreading you for not caring about opinion on you in Sunshine Mafia.

[MarioManiac4]

Lol what are you on about

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viewtopic.php?p=9273200#p9273200 to 955

[MarioManiac4]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72770

Just want to point out here, I was in this large game from the very beginning, and I had 22 posts. Mulch was in that game.

I came in around Day 4, Day 5, called out the remaining scum team perfectly, then got night killed. I don't do pressure votes. If you all want to lynch me, that's on you. I stay out of early games.

And scum won that game.

yep, because they didn't listen to my perfect reads. (i was kind of surprised they were so perfect, because things usually aren't so easily that clear). This is an irrelevant post so I gave it an irrelevant answer.

That isn't irrelevant at all. There is a reason nobody sheeped you. That said you're playing now so it really doesn't matter too much.

[MarioManiac4]

@mario, we've gone through some. Entertain me for a second here

when i was scum and you were town, you acted different and you were a hard mislynch. That game, you got all your reads ass backwards and ended up flipping cop after a role swap with rc
you and i clicked as players however because of shitposting and stuff so why is it that mulch thinks you're either scum or pr, and I don't think you're giving the same vibes as you were that game at all?

you're null to me right now so i'm asking you to convince me that you're town. can you please make a case for yourself, for me?

a) Mulch doesn't know me. Even if he's town him acting like a Day Neapolitan has no value.
b) I don't play every game the same way and tbh I had a serious offgame in 1810.
c) I can't really tell you why I'm town? I mean, my ISO is just me saying things as town, so if that doesn't convince you I'll just hope you see it later?

[MarioManiac4]

409 is really bad.

[MarioManiac4]

a) because it's been obvious bullshit since conception
b) he has retracted it

[MarioManiac4]

can you point me to dumb gambits and fakeclaims made after page 2

Is my hyperbolic exaggeration AI to you?

Yes because it feels like you're using it as an excuse to give one unsupported read and blame everyone else for it.

[MarioManiac4]

Yumeko is like this because they're playing on an alt I'm pretty sure.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Excession

[MarioManiac4]

Don't tell me what I can and can't be!

pedit: Why would they tell you who their main is if they wanted to keep it secret? If I were to ever vote them it would be because they're pushing/shading on almost everyone, but that's also likely to be a result of the alt. As it is Yumeko is town and Excession is scum.

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Yes. It doesn't matter who made the alt. When you make the alt, you are trying to go ahead and be another playstyle. I feel like the wallposting and questioning of everybody is a direct result of that.

[MarioManiac4]

He feels fake (and not in the way of projecting a playstyle) and I feel like he's reaching to get a "case" on Yumeko.

[MarioManiac4]

Well how was I supposed to anticipate Mulch making unhelpful gambits? x.x

[MarioManiac4]

Extra-Special Townbloc of Happy Friends

MarioManiac4, Creature, UnaBombaH

Candidates For Promotion

Theta Alpine, Dunkerdoodles, Boonskiies, Nero Cain, wavemode, Game Replacement, Mary Soatome

Watchlist For Meaniness

Mulch, osuka, Yumeko Jabami, davesaz, Assemblerotws, Eddie Cane, Zoki77, TwoInAMillion, Flairs

Wanted for Bullying and General Sad Crimes

massive, Excession

[MarioManiac4]

If a person starts a newbie game from scratch, they are not an alt, because an alt isn't allowed to do that.

[MarioManiac4]

Game was scumsided as soon as mulch got his role pm

[MarioManiac4]

Fine with just lynching excession or massive to be honest.

[MarioManiac4]

Probably not.

[MarioManiac4]

I didn't say that Unabombah

Creature who would you rather wagon?

[MarioManiac4]

I don't really get the mary situation. It's probably tvt actually.

Pedit: Yes.

[MarioManiac4]

Did people actually take my mason claim seriously?

Also why do people feel the need to out PR reads so much?

[MarioManiac4]

i don't think there are any masons

if there are, mario is mason. if not then nobody is

either that or the masons were smart and decided not to claim openly because all of the other claims were fairly obviously fake

I will not hesitate to deathtunnel you both. What is this conversation?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Theta Alpine

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Huh.
VOTE: Excession

[MarioManiac4]

Don't worry, we can get your PR first.

[MarioManiac4]

Literally mulch

[MarioManiac4]

Meh that's scummy and I'm voting you for it
VOTE: Mulch

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Excession
His reads are very good actually so I can let this go.

[MarioManiac4]

Would lynch osuka tbh

[MarioManiac4]

Also I just had a lightbulb moment and flairs is now locktown

[MarioManiac4]

Lol excession is actually town

VOTE: massive

[MarioManiac4]

I NEVER CALM I NEVER REST

[MarioManiac4]

Flairs is locktown because of meta.

I played a scumgame with her and she posted like twice lol

[MarioManiac4]

I NEVER CALM I NEVER REST

You forgot the blue pill, eh?

Do you think it's a

coincidence

democrats are the blue party and republicans are the red party

[MarioManiac4]

I'm from britain and am liberal, I was joking lol. Is there any reaaon you prefer excession vote to massive vote?

[MarioManiac4]

Mario how was that scummy in the least?

You're angleshooting to avoid suspicion.

[MarioManiac4]

uh yeah i'm getting tired of this

VOTE: mariomaniac4

How to get osuka's vote;
1. Call osuka scum
2. Continue to do so

[MarioManiac4]

I'll instant lynch Mario if he claims vt, he's a power role or scum

You don't know me.

[MarioManiac4]

DAFUCK????

Saying that you're uncatchable and people should stop trying to read you / are trying to be "heroes" when scumreading you is pretty much just bullshit.

[MarioManiac4]

And?

I don't think he is really basing his gameplay upon reads atm.

Pedit: It's angleshooting because it's obviously incorrect.

[MarioManiac4]

Okay I think the way I'm using the word angleshooting is confusing and probably wrong so I'm going to word it like this.
You are pushing something that you know is incorrect but has a chance of making people townreading you.

I actually had a wrong idea of that word in my head. Sorry about that.

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I just used the word wrong.

[MarioManiac4]

mario: either pr or scum. Gives off a weird vibe, not his usual vt play
this is strictly meta

VOTE: osuka

This is the incorrect answer.

[MarioManiac4]

See I sort of understand that you think you know me.

I have one game with Osuka. In which I was the cop.

[MarioManiac4]

Lol ok so you have changed your earlier position on me not playing like 1810 to mulch's position because ???

[MarioManiac4]

Can you link me to these games you looked into? I don't really buy that you thought my play was good from 1810.

Pedit: never which is my point

[MarioManiac4]

So basically you're basing my """"vanilla town tone"""" off one towngame you remember

In which I was a power role

[MarioManiac4]

Yeah this meta you have is just like ???

[MarioManiac4]

@mario, we've gone through some. Entertain me for a second here

when i was scum and you were town, you acted different and you were a hard mislynch. That game, you got all your reads ass backwards and ended up flipping cop after a role swap with rc
you and i clicked as players however because of shitposting and stuff so why is it that mulch thinks you're either scum or pr, and I don't think you're giving the same vibes as you were that game at all?

you're null to me right now so i'm asking you to convince me that you're town. can you please make a case for yourself, for me?


pedit: stop playing the victim already please

This doesn't look like what you're saying at all.

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I don't think speculating on read accuracy in the past leads anywhere productive. It's not like I'm just going to stop trying to read people.

[MarioManiac4]

But that would require you flat-out lying about your meta with me

To ate me?

I don't see your aim here

[MarioManiac4]

Meh.

[MarioManiac4]

I wish people would try to stop reading Excession. Lots of heroes nowadays who want to give him his first scum loss without realizing that your not gonna catch him if he's actually scum

[MarioManiac4]

didn't someone say the exact same thing about someone else like three pages ago

Yeah. Mulch said it about himself.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulch is somewhat correct about Excession but that wagon was too easy.

[MarioManiac4]

Meh I could rejoin this wagon.
VOTE: Excession

[MarioManiac4]

I'm just a traitor, lynch my buddies first.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Game Replacement

[MarioManiac4]

Probably.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulch why

[MarioManiac4]

I'm just a traitor, lynch my buddies first.

Who are your buddies?

I want to know before you get NK'd by them.

Game Replacement, osuka, wavemode and excession.

[MarioManiac4]

The more Mulch tells me to vote Excession, the less I want to.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mulch

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

i think he might just be bad town and getting buddied by Boon is clouding his judgement.

Possible but not particularly likely.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: BigYoshiFan

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VOTE: gerryoat

[MarioManiac4]

Gerry hasn't done anything impressive like he's implying, he just came in and deathtunneled osuka.

[MarioManiac4]

His only reason for it was pointing to a random post that doesn't even seem fake. It's weird for that level of conviction.
You can push on someone without tunnelling to that extent but people do that so it doesn't really matter as a point.

[MarioManiac4]

@mario-thoughts on Dunkers post claiming that I shouldn't be town reading him?

I thought he was saying that he was scumreading the post.

[MarioManiac4]

Calling people bad players doesn't change the point. You seeing a post that you didn't like and subsequently tunnelling into the ground is still weird and you didn't actually make a point against that.

[MarioManiac4]

it's what i do. i won't apologize for it

Nobody asked you to.

[MarioManiac4]

The deathtunnel was justified by one post though. Also the other things are stretchy.
Do you have any reads other than osuka?

[MarioManiac4]

You're not doing any of that though. You came in acting like you had an incredibly strong scumread but the reasoning was weak. You later justify your push with extra stretches but the push isn't engaging, it's an alternative to it. You haven't given any reads on anything aside from osuka.

[MarioManiac4]

Vedith is probably scum.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: wavemode

[MarioManiac4]

Yumeko Jabami!

[MarioManiac4]

Rest of Scum are letting town fight among themselves.

Hm

[MarioManiac4]

so why wavemode then

1) he's not posting and has been online
2) wynaut

[MarioManiac4]

Can you scumread those that can't post

Maybe not

But you can scumread those who won't post.

Also I'm finding this day meh and I don't want to vote excession because mulch.

[MarioManiac4]

Not sure I like that wagon anymore.

[MarioManiac4]

I might hop on excession with the caveat that if you do something like this again I'm voteparking you, because they were posting suspiciously earlier.

Then again the slot can't claim and I don't really want to lynch a replacement right upon entry so probably not.

[MarioManiac4]

I mean saying things like "vote excession for free towncred" and "why does nobody want free towncred..."

it's annoying tbh

[MarioManiac4]

It was true up to the point when I said it... do I need to dust off my crystal ball for you?

Also, thanks. BYF tells me my scum faction's going to get a second nightkill.

[MarioManiac4]

The whole claim thing is kinda a catch-22 for the excession wagon.

[MarioManiac4]

The absence of one. Excession can't claim, so he can't be lynched soon, and the point of the wagon is basically "I'm tired of this day, give me a break and some flips"

[MarioManiac4]

Btw, if anyone is feeling that good nostalgia of wanting to start a new wagon like me, I have a suggestion of something we can do together...

I would probably like a new wagon.

[MarioManiac4]

If you hardclaim I will refuse to vote Excession until lylo ftr.

[MarioManiac4]

I know you weren't talking to me but I felt like I should tell you that before you decided to do anything like that.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Assemblerotws

[MarioManiac4]

1. Avoid abbreviations. Use a player's full name to vote them.

[MarioManiac4]

It's not because I was talking my partner, since I don't have one.

Well shit.
UNVOTE:

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Assemblerotws

[MarioManiac4]

[MarioManiac4]

He flaked.

[MarioManiac4]

I guess I'm just going to stop reading this game.

[MarioManiac4]

Nice.

[MarioManiac4]

Meh I'm just voting assemble because his posts are pointless and useless.
I guess the excession thing is kinda svs too.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm looking at Assemble's town games and I don't think they resemble this very much. In some games he lurks/flakes, in some he does actual things (in Boon's laege he voted 3 players, all scum) but I don't really see forced activity as it is here.

Pedit: and I'm a Bulletproof Cop Doctor Vigilante Jailkeeper Neighbourizer.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulch

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Massive I'm so sorry

[MarioManiac4]

Assemble only has one scumgame that can be discussed and although he lurked the hell out of it that isn't necessarily because he was scum.

[MarioManiac4]

He's Mulching.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulching
verb
1.
do random shit that nobody with a sane mind is going to believe and then claim a certain reaction makes somebody scum, and then deathtunnel on them for the rest of time

[MarioManiac4]

Cause it's a fake claim

[MarioManiac4]

Mulching
verb
1.
do random shit that nobody with a sane mind is going to believe and then claim a certain reaction makes somebody scum, and then deathtunnel on them for the rest of time

yet it pretty much makes Mulch more than likely town, no?

It probably does. He's done it to me before and I scumread him for it but it's just a Mulch thing I guess.

[MarioManiac4]

Yes. I was referring to 1914 mostly though.

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like we need to lynch someone before this game gets apathetic.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm on phone for like a week so all I can really do is say what I think.

I mean, Assemble is doing nothing. Not AI for him, but also makes him not a huge loss, not to mention he'll be lynchbait all game if town.

But like all he did was pick out questions to look busy. I looked through his town games, but I saw not one example. Most of the time he either lurked or gave real things. Not to mention, him telling Excession to post is scummy in an ironic way.

[MarioManiac4]

I am going to lynch the next player who spams the thread with a repetitive and useless post.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mulch

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mulch

[MarioManiac4]

I am going to lynch the next player who spams the thread with a repetitive and useless post.

But Mulch you already hardclaimed as Desperado remember?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mulch

Let's not policy lynch him.

Just don't enable his Assemble wagon unless he gives actual cases.

Assemble wagon was kinda mine. I owned it.

Mulch doesn't necessarily need to get to a lynch yet.

[MarioManiac4]

I'm starting to think

Some of these cop claims are fake

[MarioManiac4]

Assemble.

[MarioManiac4]

Monkeyman confirmed Boonskiies.alt?

[MarioManiac4]

(I know its twim lol)

[MarioManiac4]

Sorry that is my brother's old account. He was logged in on my computer somehow.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Assemblerotws

[MarioManiac4]

get on the gerry wagon pleaseeeeeeee

My willingness to join the Gerry wagon has been decreased dramatically by this post.

[MarioManiac4]

I am going to treat any Creature votes as scumclaims.

[MarioManiac4]

Because he is obviously town.

[MarioManiac4]

Because Scum!Creature is incredibly apathetic and never posts content. This is 100% not his scum game. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

[MarioManiac4]

Creature has a small chance of being SK, depending on his philosophy w/ the role.

[MarioManiac4]

And people never change their meta?

It's incredibly unlikely that this is something he can control, or he would have done so long ago.

[MarioManiac4]

Not many players can be read like Creature. I don't know of a single player as easy to read as him. It's easy to catch him but people are somewhat resistant to lynching lurkers.

[MarioManiac4]

We could always lynch Assemblerotws?

[MarioManiac4]

We could always lynch Assemblerotws?

Clarification; I'm not sure what the gerryoat wagon upbump is about; Assemble is avoiding the thread and gerry has been relatively fine recently.

[MarioManiac4]

Well I must be living on Neptune because I think the chances are pretty high.

[MarioManiac4]

Why?

[MarioManiac4]

Wow okay TwoInAMillion is scum that makes things little easier.

[MarioManiac4]

gerryoat (6): osuka

there's way too many fucking busses going around. holy shit

Coincidence?

[MarioManiac4]

Someone having a low postcount doesn't give them a green Role PM.

[MarioManiac4]

Someone having a low postcount doesn't give them a green Role PM.

Doesn't give them a scum one either.

Which is why you read the player instead of just ignoring them.

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[MarioManiac4]

Hey guys are we going to do that thing where we don't wagon anyone and we end up settling for a terrible compromise lynch that will flip town?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[MarioManiac4]

If wagons outside of gerryoat don't work what does that tell you?

There are plenty of decent to good lynches in this playlist but none are gaining traction.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, what's your take on Nero, Eddie, wave?

Nero I could see going either way.
You could probably also go either way but you feel like town.
Wave is probably town.

Pedit: we have a winner

[MarioManiac4]

We have 3 days left and I am willing to jump on a decent wagon. In the absence of a decent wagon I will sheep creature.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Game Replacement

[MarioManiac4]

They've done nothing useful for the entire game.

[MarioManiac4]

Meh I kinda townread wavemode.

[MarioManiac4]

Locktown

MarioManiac4, Creature, Flairs, UnaBombaH

Townread

Mulch, wavemode, Theta Alpine, Nero Cain, Dunkerdoodles, gerryoat

Unacceptable Lynches

Boonskiies, Eddie Cane, Yumeko Jabami

Decent Lynches

Mary Saotome, massive, davesaz, osuka, KidAmn, Assemblerotws

Scum

TwoInAMillion, Game Replacement

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[MarioManiac4]

Well of course it's an attempt at a counterwagon. I don't think Gerry is scum and I'd rather lynch game replacement.

Pedit: Because none of them are scummy enough to lynch but I'm not ready to call them townreads.

[MarioManiac4]

Mulch is trying his best to derail the Game Replacement wagon I see.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: TwoInAMillion

[MarioManiac4]

I don't think Mulch is very likely scum, given he has been scum in two very recent games. Mulch has to draw town at some point. Mulch makes a point of trying to be hard to read.

[MarioManiac4]

lol

[MarioManiac4]

You barely pushed either lol

[MarioManiac4]

I am going to treat any Creature votes as scumclaims.

I am going to treat any Creature votes as scumclaims.

Why?

Because he is obviously town.

How's that?

Because Scum!Creature is incredibly apathetic and never posts content. This is 100% not his scum game. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

Because Scum!Creature is incredibly apathetic and never posts content. This is 100% not his scum game. If you disagree, prove me wrong.

I'm not sure one way or the other. I think it's a little early to be calling anyone 100% town.

And people never change their meta?

And people never change their meta?

people who change their meta have a meta of changing their meta

And people never change their meta?

It's incredibly unlikely that this is something he can control, or he would have done so long ago.

If it was so easy to lynch scum on meta then there would be a lot more success on day 1 lynches.

Not many players can be read like Creature. I don't know of a single player as easy to read as him. It's easy to catch him but people are somewhat resistant to lynching lurkers.

I'm not above lynching a lurker in the absence of a better option.

Remember this conversation and how TWIM danced out of it?

[MarioManiac4]

Literally just look at any of his towngames and his scumgames. There's a huge difference. This isn't the first time I've successfully used meta from him.

[MarioManiac4]

You mean the game in which I successfully caught him with meta?

[MarioManiac4]

Nice.

[MarioManiac4]

I've never been scum. I'm a town only player.

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[MarioManiac4]

Why?

[MarioManiac4]

That was @2747 but 2748 is also very questionable.

[MarioManiac4]

I've never been scum. I'm a town only player.

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What the fuck is wrong with this? Are you fucking scum Mario? Should I vig you tonight?

Yes.

[MarioManiac4]

NO JOKE: hardclaim bulletproof innocent child dayvig

[MarioManiac4]

Shooting Mario who should know million is town if he leads this fucking mislynch.


Your fucking choice, Mario

Lol like you can threaten me. This is why every counter to gerryoat has failed.

[MarioManiac4]

I don't fuck around with these type of claims

do I need quotes

[MarioManiac4]

So basically yeah you're threatening me with bullshit because you think I should sheep your empty townread on """obvious town."""

[MarioManiac4]

I've never seen a more obvious town in my life than two

This post does nothing. You want me to unvote, tell me why I should do that. Strongarning won't work.

[MarioManiac4]

Belive me or not

Don't care.

Post-game don't tell me I didn't warn you if your town, it's YOUR fault for not believing me.

Okay, you don't care, so stop talking.