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[UnaBombaH]

so now GR, Thor, and I are scum. Great.

No, Thor isn't scum yet.
I'm just getting paranoid that he is trying to deflect the kill away from you.
I do realize that from his perspective nothing is set on stone, but its hard to understand his hesitation when everything is factual/logical to yourself.

You honestly got me taking few steps back earlier FL, try to do it again.

[UnaBombaH]

Lol...? Either way, you lynch it.

I have read the wiki and games from this forum for some time, and there have been games and players like Eddie(I think?) who say that SK can be more helpful to Town than Mafia.

[Flavor Leaf]

I concede that a rolestopper would solve Night 3 if Flavor Leaf and I were both town, but they would have to be a scum rolestopper since town has not claimed one yet, and Flavor Leaf would be the likeliest candidate for that given the claim.

Hang on, this makes absolutely no sense either

Regardless

I claimed a rolestopper and I claimed when I used it. This actually furthers my point of why Una makes no sense to target someone he already should have had a guilty on and instead target me.

It's Frog/Una/Two. Two might be derping, and then I go back to Frog/Una/Paul.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol...? Either way, you lynch it.

I have read the wiki and games from this forum for some time, and there have been games and players like Eddie(I think?) who say that SK can be more helpful to Town than Mafia.

So? you still lynch the liar. You don't purposefully keep the SK alive in any situation where we were in when we lynched him.

[UnaBombaH]

Also: GRs vote has been on me for the whole day (pretty much), and if he wasn't scum, a three person scumteam would've already hammered me.
I don't know if NRTP has visited this game during that time, but...

[Flavor Leaf]

so now GR, Thor, and I are scum. Great.

No, Thor isn't scum yet.
I'm just getting paranoid that he is trying to deflect the kill away from you.
I do realize that from his perspective nothing is set on stone, but its hard to understand his hesitation when everything is factual/logical to yourself.

You honestly got me taking few steps back earlier FL, try to do it again.

I mean, I'm fucking town so he should fucking try to deflect the kill away from me. Frog is 100% confirmed scum due to reasons not even regarding GR to me. If GR isn't a partner, then you have to be a partner. Either way Frog is scum in every single possible scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also: GRs vote has been on me for the whole day (pretty much), and if he wasn't scum, a three person scumteam would've already hammered me.
I don't know if NRTP has visited this game during that time, but...

This is wrong and you pushing a perspective bias.

[UnaBombaH]

Also, try to discredit my RoleCop claim one more time, I left my most plain crumb out, the one that basically confirms I had checked Mario night one.

[Flavor Leaf]

that's exactly what scum do. Town would try and help the remaining people see they are town and who scum is by not making it a direct counter. All you do is "I'm town, so. this...." which does absolutely nothing for town, and just puts them in a 50/50 slot where they have to guess.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, try to discredit my RoleCop claim one more time, I left my most plain crumb out, the one that basically confirms I had checked Mario night one.

This shows that you set up a fake claim. Also, I could say that same thing to you about my crumbing, except mine isn't setting up an obvious fake claim like yours. Mine proves I targeted Frog night 1.

[frog]

Everything from our perspectives is guaranteed to say one thing, and every post you quote as 'evidence' will be filtered through that perspective to the point where it is almost meaningless. You are no more immune to this than me, Una, or GR

[UnaBombaH]

This actually furthers my point of why Una makes no sense to target someone he already should have had a guilty on and instead target me.

His fakeclaim conf.biased you hard though.

I suspected your claim from the start.
Then when Eddies and frogs claims matched and countered yours, I was already eager to believe them over you.
And now that I know what Eddie flipped, and that GR fakeclaimed SUPPORTING YOU, I don't see a way around it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey, guys. I'm here. If SD was a vig shot, then TB is likely town.

Hey, guys. I'm here. If SD was a vig shot, then TB is likely town.

I not follow. Explain dis

No. don't talk about it.

Why not frog?

Read my ISO, and then let's talk about something else.

there's like barely anything in your iso about frog, and you don't even interact with him

there's just one statement where you say you think frog is town

so again: why not frog?

maybe look for the predecessor.

Until I get more information, I'm going to want to keep Frog alive.

Man, Rb, how obvious do I have to make it?

frog first makes sense tho cause he's gonna fake a pr and we need the night to prove he's wrong

Can we please wait on frog...I've tried over and over to explain why, based on the vig talk earlier. If a vig doesn't out himself stating they killed SD, sure, let's go Frog, but let's at least wait a day or two. I have reason to believe he's town, as stated before.

Actually, if there was a N1 Vigilante, maybe they should claim if they shot SD, then I think Frog's nearly conftown for reasons that I should feel are obvious by now.

town is probably 4 pr.

so you're saying you want to out those PR's?

I can explain why I am against it tomorrow better if I'm alive still.

Okay, Frog. These are some posts that hopefully can help you out when reading me. I have constantly been posting about scum likely knowing the PR's as it was obvious at the time. There's a quote somewhere where I'm talking to RB, and I link Rb's name, too. A big part of my 1v1 with Mario was that he was role fishing me, and yesterday I was completely against mass claiming for those reasons. I felt like Eddie was trying to get the roles out so he can pick where he wanted to kill.

Here were some of my posts that show I was a PR. 2300 has a link on RB's name, and I feel like that should show that we can't be scum together based on interactions like that. I made this post in my conversation with Frog, yet Frog didn't even acknowledge that I had made this after Una posted a list of his obvious fake claim setup softs.

Crumbing wasn't my only PR play, my actions and how I was playing shows I'm a PR. Only your crumbs do that for you.

[frog]

Also, try to discredit my RoleCop claim one more time, I left my most plain crumb out, the one that basically confirms I had checked Mario night one.

This shows that you set up a fake claim. Also, I could say that same thing to you about my crumbing, except mine isn't setting up an obvious fake claim like yours. Mine proves I targeted Frog night 1.

Mine proves I targeted rb Night One. We can't all be town together, yet we all have 'proof'. See above post

[Flavor Leaf]

This actually furthers my point of why Una makes no sense to target someone he already should have had a guilty on and instead target me.

His fakeclaim conf.biased you hard though.

I suspected your claim from the start.
Then when Eddies and frogs claims matched and countered yours, I was already eager to believe them over you.
And now that I know what Eddie flipped, and that GR fakeclaimed SUPPORTING YOU, I don't see a way around it.

Frogs claim didn't counter mine wtf? And neither did Eddie's. If anything, Frog's claim supported mine.

[frog]

My results supported both of you, which is why I wanted a longer Day 4!

[Game Replacement]

Notice how the Scum weren't even on the SK while Mario was obvious Scum? That's because of town credit.

Except that I jumped on Mario after he claimed vig, because I had KNOWLEDGE of his Bulletproof.
I just didn't know whether he was Mafia or SK.

Mmhm

[UnaBombaH]

This shows that you set up a fake claim. Also, I could say that same thing to you about my crumbing, except mine isn't setting up an obvious fake claim like yours. Mine proves I targeted Frog night 1.

How, and why? What?
How about I crumbed my claim because its real and I wanted my teammates to believe it?
How does yours PROVE that you targeted Frog? Or even if it does, how does it prove you are town?

[UnaBombaH]

...and we are back to this. ME and frog going 2v2 with you guys.
This doesn't help, we are stuck in circles.

NTRP needs to arrive and we need the three of them to discuss.

[Flavor Leaf]

Una keeps stating things that aren't true to push her agenda. "what agenda" the scum one!!! literally had this discussion with mario.

and you know what, I was right with Mario?

[Flavor Leaf]

This shows that you set up a fake claim. Also, I could say that same thing to you about my crumbing, except mine isn't setting up an obvious fake claim like yours. Mine proves I targeted Frog night 1.

How, and why? What?
How about I crumbed my claim because its real and I wanted my teammates to believe it?
How does yours PROVE that you targeted Frog? Or even if it does, how does it prove you are town?

all these questions go towards you as well. Think...please.

[Game Replacement]

Also: GRs vote has been on me for the whole day (pretty much), and if he wasn't scum, a three person scumteam would've already hammered me.
I don't know if NRTP has visited this game during that time, but...

Considering there's 100% Scum in either of us (you) there's never going to be a 3 person lynch off the bat.
Your Scum buddies just not got the minerals to vote me or it outs you all.

[frog]

This is a completely useless and circular discussion, and town would behave in a way that didn't multiply worthless content

[Flavor Leaf]

This is a completely useless and circular discussion, and town would behave in a way that didn't multiply worthless content

So you're calling Una scum now too? Because that's the reason this is happening.

[Game Replacement]

This is going to be like the 5th game in a row where Scum push me in LyLo and fake a guilty