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[Robbnva]

Good morning everyone. Bear with me as I embark on a new nicer playstyle. If I start getting condescending/rude/etc please put me in check.

Thank you.

Now that's out of the way.

sup.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: i am fluffy

[Robbnva]

Good morning Mr. Zachary. Would you please explain your vote on me?

[Robbnva]

Maybe. Except there is no SK this game.

[Robbnva]

And why do you think I'm scum?

[Robbnva]

Awesome is I believe.

[Robbnva]

You didn't answer his question. + scum points

[Robbnva]

Why should it be on him?

Why are you not trying to find out why people are voting you?

[Robbnva]

someone bring iaafr to l-1 y/y

robbnva if you could dayvig somebody rn who would it be

Zach

[Robbnva]

what if i just make a tiered readslist with explanations every 2 days

maybe i just do that

Please no

[Robbnva]

what if i just make a tiered readslist with explanations every 2 days

maybe i just do that

Please no

why what do you need to read me

Scum hunt and don't make list reads.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: acid

[Robbnva]

They are a waste of time that could be better spent scum hunting/convincing others to lynch scum. They also provide scum with way more information than they need. People should keep their town reads to themselves.

[Robbnva]

someone bring iaafr to l-1 y/y

robbnva if you could dayvig somebody rn who would it be

Zach

Come on bro.

You dodged a question. That was very scummy.

P.edit - you dislike playing on ms cause you disagree with my opinion? That's strange

[Robbnva]

Yeah I'll probably do the same cause I'm trying to be nice and after that post I'm finding that hard to do.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: fluffy

[Robbnva]

Wish I had 2 votes.

[Robbnva]

You're voting me for lacking in content which is NAI.

But it really shouldn't be. It's a sad state of affairs when giving little to no content is not alignment indicative.

[Robbnva]

Fluffy and uzi are Town

Please explain both cause I disagree

[Robbnva]

And to those playing at home. 164 doesn't come from town ever (or at least shouldn't)

[Robbnva]

And can somebody please tell fluffy that she said she was going to stop talking to me and I was going to stop talking to her so she needs to please stick to her word.

Thanks.

[Robbnva]

The game has changed Robb. Whether for the better or worst I'll leave that for another thread but you have to adapt or you'll be left behind.

I don't adapt. I just lynch scummy people and hope they are scum.

[Robbnva]

Robb I mean if you're not adapting your definition of scummy is basically guaranteed to not be correct

I guess but I don't think it's a good idea to let town do scummy things so they can play better when they are scum. That's basically the point of intentionally doing scummy things as town.

I think that's why people hate playing with me.

[Robbnva]

how about instead of not talking to each other you just agree to not be shits to each other

She already drew first blood so in order to maintain my "nice" attitude I can't interact with her anymore.

[Robbnva]

people don't intentionally do scummy things as town for the most part

Completely disagree

[Robbnva]

Wonder what tchill thinks about the Kyrie trade.

If uzi isn't scum this is intentional scummy behavior

[Robbnva]

rabbit l-3 I believe

Fixed

[Robbnva]

no alch lol I just failed at count

rabbit is still town though

Based on what? That one post I mentioned alone can not come from town.

Please explain what she's done that's remotely townie.

[Robbnva]

I trust self-meta about as far as I can throw it.

+1000000

that was completely unnecessary and super scummy

[Robbnva]

Ugh. Im on the road all day driving back from the beach. This game is going to hit 40 pages before I get home. This sucks.

Hopefully fluffy is lynched and the pages aren't as many.

Goodnight everyone.

[Robbnva]

see the above self meta + just this post never comes from scum!iaafr

also just generally most scum would be less antagonistic, plus he's actually tossing out reads even if some are less than ai

None of that points to town. What else you got?

[Robbnva]

I'd like to lynch alchemist for In my opinion consistently scumposting but uzi is rather intriguing




iaafr is probably town at the moment. I think he's a bad day one lynch

But if iaafr isn't lynched this game is going to go down the tubes fast. You know how I like to death tunnel. Do
You really want 3/4 game days of it?

[Robbnva]

I guess 5 games is enough to take Acid's word here. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't take acid.

UNVOTE:

You can only take his word if you know he's town...

[Robbnva]

yall can speedlynch zach if u want i dont even care that much

This is a scum claim acid.

Town absolutely cares who gets lynched

[Robbnva]

I guess 5 games is enough to take Acid's word here. And this is coming from a guy who doesn't take acid.

UNVOTE:

You can only take his word if you know he's town...

Nah. Even if Acid's scum I doubt he'd tie himself to a buddy with this defense. If scumAcid thinks rabbit is easy to read as Town I'm sure they'd be doing this for some easy Towncred early on.

Are you a naive person in general?

[Robbnva]

Ugh this game is going to suck. I may have to replace out which I really hate doing.

[Robbnva]

Nobody threatened to ruin the game.

[Robbnva]

not sure what you call your deathtunnel threat then

but whatever

luv outside of rabbit who do you dislike rn

The death tunnel is how I play which people hate for some reason. Trying to lynch my scum read isn't ruining the game. It's the very definition of it. I've seen enough of fluffy to know there is absolutely no way she can be town.

[Robbnva]

Thanks mom

[Robbnva]

house king of deathtunnel

Nah pretty sure that's me.

And I keep laughing every time rabbit says I'm tunneling a town. I'm not

[Robbnva]

first even if you disagree that it's bad play(I could probably write an essay on why it is) it's still absurdly terrible to do any threat with the explicit purpose of making the game less fun for a player if they don't acquiesce to your demands

second rabbit is a he I believe

third you're 99.9% wrong and you aren't listening to anyone telling you why, you're just assuming that the validity of literally any read is based on whether it agrees with your conclusion

but especially part 1 wtf

1. It's not my intention to make the game less fun. But it is my intention to lynch scum.
2. Oops
3. Nobody has explained why he's town outside of you himself. your reasons are non AI reasons and of course I'm going to ignore his own explanations.

Fluffy's reaction to me saying I dislike reads lists was fake ate. Add in 104 which is basically a cheap shot at me with another ate gimmick of threatening not to interact with me. At this point he calls me town when I did nothing townish. Makes me think he knows I'm town and he wants to try and buddy me after he just insulted me. Calls uzi scummy for agreeing with me which raises another red flag. 122 implies he knows Zach is town (adding to the later post about not caring if he's lynched) is another red flag. I could add more but it's really unnecessary. The icing on top is the self meta.

Meta should never be used. Self meta is a used by desperate people. Town should never be desperate.

There is nothing else in his ISO that looks even remotely town.

So idk where the game is going from here but there is no way rabbit should be alive at the end of the day. If people disagree idk what else I can do but I can't unvote

[Robbnva]

lol at meta should never be used

Meta is so easy to manipulate.

[Robbnva]

also regardless of your opinion on how easy meta manipulation is a blanket statement that meta should never be used is utterly absurd

It really isn't. Meta has been proven useless time and time again. I've seen countless townies mislynched over "meta". I've seen scum sail to easy wins cause of meta.

You need to really know a player inside and out to properly meta somebody and even then you are probably just lucky.

[Robbnva]

acid - uzi,:tchill, and whymafia all had super awkward entrances

Can you explain why you felt they were awkward? Why did they lack social grace or assurance?

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

for uzi his intro greeting is non AI. Much like my "sup" is non AI.

[Robbnva]

acid - uzi,:tchill, and whymafia all had super awkward entrances

What's scummier. Why mafia's entrance or idanny's post after it?

[Robbnva]

Meh. I think uzi may be right. You are probably bull shitting.

Danny stood out more than why imo.
Uzi's intro wasn't bad, acids was a true rvs vote and tchill was just meh

[Robbnva]

Hey guys

What's shaking?

hi everyone!

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

Hmm...

Idk about anyone else but the 2 entrances look similar enough to me.

[Robbnva]

Damn. Got to be up in 6 hours. Ok goodnight

[Robbnva]

Hey guys

What's shaking?

hi everyone!

awkward as in i could see the "hey guys i'm just a town nothing to see here move along move along radiating off them"

Hmm...

Idk about anyone else but the 2 entrances look similar enough to me.

it's the what's shaking part that pinged me obv

[Robbnva]

sup

had a long day and just got home to read something very disturbing so I don't have time to deal with mafia right now. I will be v/la for the weekend cause i need a complete break from this site right now. There is a chance i may replace out but hopefully I won't have to.

vote isn't changing though.

[Robbnva]

forgot to bold it

I will be v/la for the weekend

[Robbnva]

no it doesn't have to do with this game, but it does have to do with an ongoing game which I can't talk about.

later

[Robbnva]

Ugh. This game. I really want to replace out cause I don't think it's fair to play ignoring a player and at the same time wanting them lynched but it's also not fair to the mod to have to find a replacement. I'll try and catch up soon but this is low priority right now. My opinion doesn't really matter much anyway apparently.

Oh and please cut back on the extra posts.

Thanks.

[Robbnva]

sorry

i was busy yesterday

time to read now

a lot of the stuff robb believes in this game is specifically NAI for this game imo

like he says stuff that he believes in general about the game but he's not thinking adaptively at all

its slightly scummy

i really would feel a lot better if he tunneled somebody other than me

The fact that he's tunneling you let's me know he's town.

what is this

does robb not tunnel as scum / what's the difference

In sorry. You reread and the only thing you posted was a replica question to one fluffy asked like 400 posts ago and nothing else?

Smh if you are town you really stink right now.

So to answer fluffy's original question which you just reasked in an attempt to look useful.

Yes I do tunnel as scum. I tunnel as both alignments so it's NAI.

[Robbnva]

The Real Townies Must Help Me Vanquish The Scum Threat

One of these is definitely wrong. Help me vanquish fluffy and I'll maybe help you vanquish one of these.

[Robbnva]

Those are townies. WhyMafia is the prime scum threat. He must go first.

Why is he scum?

Why not fluffy who technically scum claimed first?

[Robbnva]

hi town here; claiming i scumclaimed is a scumclaim thanks

This will be my only response to you the rest of the game. If you think me saying you scum claimed is me scum claiming. Vote me or shut the hell up already.

you DID scum claim as far as I'm concerned.

Now please stop talking to me like you said you were going to do ages ago.

[Robbnva]

Can you give me a tldr on Zach?

[Robbnva]

Why can't we just lynch fluffy and be done with it? Are you really ok keeping a player who admitted he doesn't care who gets lynched? I'm not comfortable with that kind of player. That isn't a town mindset. Town should care who gets lynched.

[Robbnva]

Who here thinks Robbnva and rabbit are BOTH town?

not me. And if you are town you shouldn't think he is either.

Townies care who gets lynched. Fluffy doesn't.

[Robbnva]

Guys plz

I'm trying to lynch my top scum read. What is your issue with that? That's the point of the game...

[Robbnva]

This dude wants me to replace out cause I think he's scum and says I'm not playing the game. Wtf is that bullshit?

I care who gets lynched.

He says he doesn't care if Zach is lynched.


One of those is a town mindset the other isn't

Everyone decide and let's move on from there.

There is no c: both are town option

[Robbnva]

Now can we lynch fluffy?

[Robbnva]

Why is fluffy town? What has he done that's townish beside buddying you?

[Robbnva]

I'll lol if whymafia was right about the scum team. The 3 of them actually make a lot of sense.

[Robbnva]

Why do you feel like your opinion doesn't matter much?

Cause I'm pretty sure I've caught scum and nobody agrees with me

[Robbnva]

Hey robbvna who's some other scum reads? I'm feeling like there maybe scum in torque, syndesis and acidpheonix. I'm OK with letting CD sort himself out for now.

I'll lol if whymafia was right about the scum team. The 3 of them actually make a lot of sense.

[Robbnva]

Why do you feel like your opinion doesn't matter much?

Cause I'm pretty sure I've caught scum and nobody agrees with me

Then maybe that means you need to reevaluate.

I will when I get a flip from the slot

[Robbnva]

Fluffy's original vote in uzi was a bad vote. Add in how scummy fluffy was being, I don't see how anyone town read him at that point. The self meta stuff was bad also.

Let's look at his next votes.

Sheeps Zach who's "lock town" and votes ACLU and the next post unvoted and says it's probably Zach and not alch (huge red flag cause where did the 180 on Zach come from, plus sheep votes are meh)

Votes alch again but never really explains his scum read of this slot the entire game. He just has a hard on for that slot for some reason.

Side note. I don't like he is a high poster and tries to shut down whymafia when he says high posting isn't AI. He wants people to believe high posting is not only AI but town which is scummy as fuck

Votes Zach for no reason at all. He has been calling Zach town, even meta dives him and isos him and still calls him town. The 180 on Zach comes out of nowhere and is unexplained.

All I see is a spammy poster who votes and doesn't justify his votes or make cases for them. A player who tries to clear himself by self meta and wand people to think him posting a lot makes him town.

So yeah, he's probably scum.

[Robbnva]

Doing some ISOs. Syn could be scum also

[Robbnva]

TBH acid doesn't look good either. He basically just omgus votes whymafia.

[Robbnva]

Hey robbvna who's some other scum reads? I'm feeling like there maybe scum in torque, syndesis and acidpheonix. I'm OK with letting CD sort himself out for now.

What if you replace torque with fluffy?

Syn made a big deal about people's entrances awkward especially uzi's but syn's entrance is very similar to uzi's and when i called him on it his response was a reach. Not to mention he is laying low.

So is awesome also though.

Ugh. Ok fluffy/acid/syn/awesome

Scum in this pool?

[Robbnva]

I'll iso Zach later. He's hard to read.

[Robbnva]

Cd isn't voting you...

Zach your play is different again. Why do you not play consistently each game?

[Robbnva]

Zach. You keep going back and forth between uzi and why

What's the short and sweet version of why they are scum.

[Robbnva]

Zach. You keep going back and forth between uzi and why

What's the short and sweet version of why they are scum.

He doesn't have one because his whole case was proven t be bullshit

I'm still waiting for a tldr version of your case

@zach yes I know that. The slot is still scum.

[Robbnva]

Well there's no reason to scumread me.

[Robbnva]

TBH acid doesn't look good either. He basically just omgus votes whymafia.

the only vote on whymafia where he's voting me is based on checking his iso and noticing something very noticeable

that's not what an omgus looks like tbh

voting somebody because their read on you sucks and they should feel bad(perception accurate or otherwise) is an omgus

like this: VOTE: robbnva

Omgus is voting somebody for voting you. Your whymafia vote was omgus. Your vote on me is cause I'm obviously on the right track.

[Robbnva]

except that I don't actually want to vote you I think

UNVOTE:
VOTE: tchill13

Too late. You've scum claimed also.

So who's the 3rd?

[Robbnva]

voting somebody for scumreading you is much closer to an omgus than voting somebody for valid reason when they happen to be voting you

a 'true' omgus would be voting somebody explicitly for voting you

especially if the reason is "this player is too good to actually scumread me"

but nonetheless

Wait. Are you saying that whymafia is too good of a player to scum read you? Or am I reading that wrong?

Anyway, no matter how you try to justify it, You voted why for scum reading you and that's omgus.

[Robbnva]

b. omgus is a terrible scumtell regardless

So I caught you for the wrong reasons? Aww I'm sowwy

[Robbnva]

chill for just existing; posting but not doing much;

Trying to find out why acid scumreads chill and I see this.

There are at least 2 people way guiltier of this (awesome and syn) yet he doesn't push them.

Awesome he barley even mentions and it doesn't seem like he wants to scum read syn for some reason.

[Robbnva]

This whole pt thing is weird btw

[Robbnva]

ive referred to awesome as melas; try again

(also awesome wasn't posting and not doing much so much as yknow
not posting)

correct i don't want to scumread syn because i townread her (also given her specifically i'm unwilling to scumread for shitposts andor low content posts)

So 3 people are guilty of the same thing and somehow you town read one, scum read the other, and ignore the 3rd.

Yeah that's not town mindset

[Robbnva]

i have a neighborizer shot and i've been spamming the pt with reads and such

Scum neighborizer. Awesome

[Robbnva]

Yeah bullshit. Syn and awesome have done nothing. Syn already got got doing something fishy and never recovered. Nothing in his ISO is town read worthy.

[Robbnva]

And nobody should be town reading awesome. Like what has he done to help the game?

[Robbnva]

sorry

i was busy yesterday

time to read now

a lot of the stuff robb believes in this game is specifically NAI for this game imo

like he says stuff that he believes in general about the game but he's not thinking adaptively at all

its slightly scummy

i really would feel a lot better if he tunneled somebody other than me

The fact that he's tunneling you let's me know he's town.

what is this

does robb not tunnel as scum / what's the difference

I already posted this earlier. He re reads and his only post is to ask a question that's already even asked? Nothing else? Then he vanishes for 2 days and prodges?

How can this be a town read? No way

[Robbnva]

Already been asked*

[Robbnva]

@uzi. I'm beginning to feel your frustration. There are a ton of players this game doing shady shit and they can't all be scum.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: acidpheonix

We're gonna go back to this after the 1v1 with robbvna.

meh acidphoenix is self resolving
just need somebody peek into his pt at night, preferrably cd or myself

would you be interested in some rope for alchemist instead, sir?

Huh? How does peeking in his PT help determine his alignment? If he's scum he's not going to post anything in it that outs him

[Robbnva]

Very bad reason. This game is about manipulation

[Robbnva]

I don't have a read on Lilly

[Robbnva]

a. why not
b. what are your thoughts on her synde read

Cause I've got like 5/6 scummy players distracting me

I don't even know what her syn read is so I'll have to go read what it is.

[Robbnva]

Fenix. What is Lilly's read on syn?

[Robbnva]

You have to trust them based on their actions. Posting a bunch in a Pt doesn't change anything when he's posting scummy in the game.

I trust people who do things I agree with. Omgus voting why mafia and having inconsistent reads on 3 people who are all very similar are things that I can't trust. I don't know how any townie can trust that.

Seriously. Awesome has 19 posts and he's being town read? That's terrible. He has done nothing to warrant a town read. He should be null or scummy.

[Robbnva]

Unfortunately town plays have been getting worse and worse as time moves on

Yes I called it before my ban. Players are having trouble playing as scum so if they degrade their town game they can play as scum easier.

That plus people coming from sub par sites like epic mafia

[Robbnva]

also Robb you aren't exactly helping to prevent that from being the case

Huh?

[Robbnva]

I'm saying that when you unironically defend deathtunnel as a good strategy you're contributing to towns sucking robb

(unless you're scum in which case booo doing your town faking through toxicity)

I don't ever plan to death tunnel. I find scum and try to lynch them. If one of my other reads get wagoned I'll definitely switch to those but when nobody makes a compelling argument to show why I'm wrong (which nobody usually does and hasn't this game either) and hasn't really made a good argument for somebody else (which nobody has really) I get stuck pushing my scum reads.

You do know the point of the game is to find AND lynch scum right? So why do people have an issue with me doing that is beyond me.

[Robbnva]

Hi would you be interested in exterminating some alchemists

My plate is kind of full ATM. What's the case on him?

[Robbnva]

Danny I can and will make you suffer day2
Don't question me :')

Why is syn green?

[Robbnva]

You don't know that so do better

[Robbnva]

I'm not believing any mason claims from anyone especially you/him so yeah I know you don't know it.

[Robbnva]

Am I locktown to you or something?

No you aren't

[Robbnva]

Am I locktown to you or something?

No you aren't

So you're just not going to assume I'm scum?

I've got a pool of like 5 scum reads now. I really don't want to have anymore. But you refusing to explain your read has put you in the mix. Congratulations. If you are town though piss off.

I'm fucking sick and tired of townies playing like shit.

[Robbnva]

Lynches happen when a majority does. What's "happening today" is either a scum line or an indication of a shitty gamestate.

Whymafia case when I get home, but who cares.

you are probably going to get lynched just cause time runs out. I've asked why twice for a condensed version of his case cause his wall is too much for me yo follow and he hasn't responded to them.

I don't see anyone else making a good case either.

[Robbnva]

Lynches happen when a majority does. What's "happening today" is either a scum line or an indication of a shitty gamestate.

How so? I don't see anyone else but Dany and I who are scumreading Carcalilly. Unless there's a drastic change in the game, I don't see how Carcalilly would be lynched today.

And yet you haven't even tried to convince people why he's scum...

[Robbnva]

If you expect me to go around and convince everyone why she's scum, then I don't know

That is literally what townies are required to do. Find scum and convince others to lynch them.

And people townread your slot?

[Robbnva]

This is so ironic coming from you.

you realize that 2nd quote actually supports my first right?

Like I think you were trying to take a dig at me but you failed miserably

[Robbnva]

I tried to convince people to lynch fluffy. People said no. I did what I was supposed to and failed. It's better than not even attempting which so many others are guilty of.

[Robbnva]

Can we PLEASE lynch cd already. He just admitted he doesn't want to convince people which would be the 2nd scum claim from the same slot but by 2 different players.

[Robbnva]

The things you be calling scumclaims usually aren't tho :/

So it's town to say "the person I want lynched isn't going to get lyched unless something drastic happens, but I'm not going to try and convince people to lynch them"?

Absolutely not.

This needs death

[Robbnva]

its nai to recognize when an endeavor is unproductive and cease it

but Is it town to abandon an endeavor before even starting it?

[Robbnva]

basically for cd to push a carca Lynch he'd have to abandon scumhunting, abandon lynches on people he thinks might be scum,

He hasn't done any scum hunting yet.

He thinks carca is scum and he's not voting anyone ATM so he isn't abandoning anything.

He is a new player with new reads. This is the best time he can ever have to try and convince people since he has fresh eyes. He doesn't want to convince people though...

It's suspicious to be suspicious of somebody and not try to lynch them. It's how I was almost caught as scum cause my buddy didn't want to push me.

He doesn't want to push carca for some reason despite being his top read. His "I don't want to death tunnel" excuse is Bs cause he hasn't even started to tunnel, he hasn't even started to lightly push...

[Robbnva]

Smh town is going to lose this game.

[Robbnva]

VOTE: zach

[Robbnva]

the townies in this game proved a long time ago they don't want to lynch scum.

[Robbnva]

but you want to lynch WM and I sort of think he is town. Especially given that one of my scum reads tried to OMGUS lynch him.

[Robbnva]

saying "you are full of shit" is basically all you can do as either alignment. where do you think my signature came from. Regardless what my alignment is any case made on me is wrong and the people are full of shit.

shitty townies have basically made this game impossible to play and find scum, and when you actually do find scum people make some excuse for why you are wrong. These excuses don't even make sense. "townies are more likely to scum slip" for instance....

[Robbnva]

This is an even better example of a terrible excuse for scummy behavior.

its nai to recognize when an endeavor is unproductive and cease it

when the person hasn't even started the endeavor yet...

[Robbnva]

@torque - the game day ends in 3 days, you are gone for 2 of them and you vote somebody who only had 1 vote on him?

[Robbnva]

But if it does, please don't be a lynch on cd/acidphoenix/tchill

btw this is a terrible "do not lynch" list

[Robbnva]

Torque and Zach scummy

there are like 6/7 people who are scummy....

[Robbnva]

cd & awesome also

[Robbnva]

You're scumclaiming if you think I was actually softing anything.

well that's stupid because I thought you were as well...

[Robbnva]

I don't really think awesome is too scummy. Can you explain him?

aside from the constant lurking, the biggest issue I had I have actually quoted it twice. he finally shows up and says he is re-reading and after a little while makes only 1 post. In that 1 post he asks a pointless question that has actually already been asked already.

I feel like if he were town and he was genuinely re-reading he would have something else.

Before that he voted me because he didn't know what I was doing, but he didn't even make any attempt to interact with me to find out what I was doing.

[Robbnva]

Zach just wants to intimidate people lul

I mean that sort of how it feels to me as well. Trying to scare people from lynching him.

[Robbnva]

Bye robb

bye bye. See you in the dead thread

[Robbnva]

softing anything for no reason is dumb

but softing to scare people from lynching you isn't which is basically what you were doing

[Robbnva]

well idk what you were actually doing but that is definitely what it appeared you were doing

[Robbnva]

hopefully I will have more evidence that one of my scum reads are confirmed scum and we can lynch them instead of venge lynching Whymafia for scum reading a scummy player.

if not we can use wagon analysis. I seriously doubt the strongest pusher of your wagon is scum, logically that doesn't make much sense. why would he out himself as scum to lynch you?

[Robbnva]

I try to defend the way you play but I'm not even going to do that anymore. At all.

nobody asked you to defend my play because my play doesn't need defending.

find scum and try to get them lynched. That's my play. Interesting enough that is how you play this game. coincidence? i think not.

[Robbnva]

I try to defend the way you play but I'm not even going to do that anymore. At all.

btw what kind of manipulative bullshit is this?

[Robbnva]

He's obv scum.

no. fluffy and acid are obv scum

[Robbnva]

If you aren't play better next time?

[Robbnva]

not if it's to whatever the fuck your standards are

but to a reasonable person's standards sure! just like everyone should all/most of the time

Fine you want to play it like that. The fist one of your scum reads that flip town, I'm going to be all over your ass about your standards being shit.

My standards are find scummy people. If that's wrong, not sure I want to be right.

[Robbnva]

Like who the fuck do you think you are?
You better have perfect reads homeboy cause your first mistake and I'm going to do everything in my power to get you lynched after that fucking insult.

[Robbnva]

You want to talk about what a reasonable person would or wouldn't do.

yall can speedlynch zach if u want i dont even care that much

A reasonable person with a town role pm doesn't make this post. Or at least they shouldn't

He made many other posts a reasonable townie shouldn't make also.

I'm done talking to you. You are either scum or somebody I want to avoid going forward.

[Robbnva]

also 'find scummy person' is about the only part of your process that works

you skipped steps like
'reevaluate people on new posts'
'continue scumhunting after you find scummy person'
'

I did these 2 actually.

[Robbnva]

1st one I did really. When the new person said they don't want to convince people to lynch their scumread which is the POINT OF THE GAME. (Deleted the curse word cause apparently people don't like cursing) How am I supposed to town read them? Nobody should. People should definitely be defending that nonsense.


I didn't scum read fluffy just cause of 1 post though. It's their entire body of work. Im pretty sure I went through the things they did scummier earlier and I called things out as I saw it so to discredit me like that is scummy.

If Zach is town, scum motivation is to allow a townie get lynched without having to be on the wagon.

I don't really need to answer your last question

[Robbnva]

Fluffy's original vote in uzi was a bad vote. Add in how scummy fluffy was being, I don't see how anyone town read him at that point. The self meta stuff was bad also.

Let's look at his next votes.

Sheeps Zach who's "lock town" and votes ACLU and the next post unvoted and says it's probably Zach and not alch (huge red flag cause where did the 180 on Zach come from, plus sheep votes are meh)

Votes alch again but never really explains his scum read of this slot the entire game. He just has a hard on for that slot for some reason.

Side note. I don't like he is a high poster and tries to shut down whymafia when he says high posting isn't AI. He wants people to believe high posting is not only AI but town which is scummy as fuck

Votes Zach for no reason at all. He has been calling Zach town, even meta dives him and isos him and still calls him town. The 180 on Zach comes out of nowhere and is unexplained.

All I see is a spammy poster who votes and doesn't justify his votes or make cases for them. A player who tries to clear himself by self meta and wand people to think him posting a lot makes him town.

So yeah, he's probably scum.

Like I made this whole post talking about their shady voting history. Like how can you call me toxic is you aren't even reading the game?

And btw. I'm sick and tired of people calling me toxic for wanting to lynch my scum reads. More than half the player list haven't even attempted a moderate push on their top read. At least one outright refused to push his.

That's toxic

[Robbnva]

Facepalming my posts and just dismissing and discrediting my posts is more toxic than anything I've done ftr. Calling me unreasonable cause you disagree with me is also.

Use big boy words

[Robbnva]

Like how can you lecture me how to play when your top scum read is somebody who called you scum first?

[Robbnva]

deathtunnels and refusing to cooperate with thread are toxic

Voting my scum reads when there are no viable alternatives isn't toxic. Go look at all the VCs. None of my scum reads were viable options. The people getting voted were either low on my list or people I wasn't scum reading at all.

Voting people who I don't want lynched is way more toxic than sticking with who I do want lynched.

You say I didn't cooperate but who exactly was I supposed to cooperate with? On the flip side. You do realize nobody cooperated with me either.

Not a single person took my push on fluffy seriously.

The votes have been split most of the game and tbh myself and why have put together probably the best reasons to lynch somebody and imo mine were better than why's.

I am only voting Zach now cause nobody has been taking my push on fluffy seriously. Nobody seriously disputed my reasons. You proved that cause you have been bashing me the entire game and you think I scum read him off one fucking post and have the nerve to facepalm me?

I can write a list of 5-10 things fluffy did that was scummy or lynch worthy. I've pointed out alot of them.

So no I'm not being toxic imo.

[Robbnva]

Please stop mucking up the thread with useless back and forths. I'm almost positive robbvna is town because of my experience with him which leads me to believe acidpheonix is purposely arguing knowing he won't get anywhere to make the game harder to read. I'm pretty happy with how Zach responded to my vote makes me more confident that he is scum.

That's what always happens. He's probably scum. If the scum team is acid/Zach/fluffy that would explain it perfectly.

Zach and you are probably the most aware of it out of the player list.

His constant discrediting of me is unacceptable especially since he didn't even know why I had a plethora of

piñatas

reasons.

[Robbnva]

Know that*

[Robbnva]

The fact acid didn't even know why I was scum reading fluffy is a huge red flag.

[Robbnva]

Your contribution isn't pro town. It's only to devalue acid/Robb interaction as useless which even if it may be, you're still not contributing anything. Only giving the illusion of doing so. Besides a vote on me stemming from logic that I'm sure will be made to make sense as long as it suits your purposes.


TvTs aren't anything new in games.

You and I have played the most. Wouldn't it be smart play as scum to engage me like this to 1. Discredit me and 2. Get town read for it?

Has acid made a good case on anyone? He was suspicious of why after why was suspicious of him. He came up with some sort of playstyle change or whatever and picked some arbitrary post number and said posts made after that were different. Why is that a good reason? Is him being scum the only reason for him posting different? No

His vote on tchill is lame also. At least 2 people are guiltiest of being useless over tchill but he town reads those people and scum reads tchill.

Like at least I gave decent reasons for my reads. Those are not even close to decent yet he says I have bad standards and I'm being unreasonable?

Bulllllllll shit

[Robbnva]

This game makes me sad and mad.

[Robbnva]

Nah. I'm good. I still scum read you and if I am wrong, you made a post that is imo unacceptable from a townie.

[Robbnva]

So I'm wrong for thinking tonwies should care who gets lynched? Fine I guess I'm wrong.

I'm wrong for thinking townies should try to at least attempt to convince people instead of out right refusing cause it's pointless ? (which they can't possibly know until they try) fine I'm wrong.

Lynch me.

I think that if townies do townie things, genuinely scum hunt, put effort into the game they sign up for, and actually care about the game's outcome. Town wins way more than they do already.

People do scummy things, how can I town read those people?

Why should I have to lower my standards?

How do I even tell the difference?

Town lurk and scum lurk. how do you tell the difference?

Town don't scum hunt and scum don't scumhunt. How do you tell the difference?

[Robbnva]

Whymafia and uzi, slight town read on chill but back of my mind he's buddying me.

l really wish you wouldn't have made that post earlier though cause rereading fluffy he was clearly playing this game just to troll people/push buttons. You had a great chance to improve the slot and blew it. Now I can't tell if you are being genuine or buddying me.

I'm fairly certain now fenix is scum with Zach. I can totally see Zach coaching somebody to egg me on.

If Zach flips town I'll reconsider but I don't think this is town Zach.

[Robbnva]

Sorry. Phoenix

[Robbnva]

Where are you at?

[Robbnva]

so syn makes a series of posts and not a single one provided anything useful...

[Robbnva]

explaining reads is heavily overrated

if someone can explain alch scumreads to me

i am in fact forcing myself to post

You joined this game willingly, why did you do that if you don't really want to play?

[Robbnva]

I don't think zach should get off the hook but if a wagon forms on syn, I will hammer that one with pleasure.

[Robbnva]

why do you scum read tchill?

[Robbnva]

Syndesis/acid/cd don't want to help me lynch wm?

if you are town, I guess you can understand what i go through almost every game

unfortunately I don't really see scum intent in his posts. Making a bad case doesn't make somebody scum.

the fact that you are appealing to those 3 people specifically really weirds me out.

[Robbnva]

Syndesis would be a good vig shorn though

+1

[Robbnva]

acid backing out of her town read of synd without any explanation at all...

[Robbnva]

unless I am misunderstanding that post, you have your 2 town reads in your pool of people you would lynch if you had to.

[Robbnva]

they aren't locktown reads so yes?
I picked the pool that at this point I actually expect to have a chance of getting lynched at this point

and none of them are to the point of me going no fuck this and insanepushing the lynch to anywhere else

[Robbnva]

lol has the tear in your avatar always been there?

[Robbnva]

Thats recent lmfao it's the aesthetic I've been missing

I feel that it's appropriate for this game especially if you aren't scum

[Robbnva]

I'll stay on Acid until Zach gets to L-2

he was at l-2 until you voted him...

[Robbnva]

oh my bad

[Robbnva]

I'll stay on Acid until Zach gets to L-2

he was at l-2 until you voted him...

Yeah I know, but it seems more people SR Acid than Zach

if an acid wagon forms I will gladly hammer him

[Robbnva]

Not seeing anything forced about her posts other than her reasoning for why she voted me.

Lack of content is not AI.

did you miss the part where she said she had to force herself to post? which means everything around that time was forced...

if she were town she would have replaced out long ago.

[Robbnva]

Why wouldn't she replace out as scum?

cause she is basically getting a free pass to lurk and do nothing.

[Robbnva]

Forcing oneself to post is more like someone waking up and realizing they have to put up with a 9-5 to have a roof over there head and food on the table or teammates in a sport who don't actually get a long off the court or the field but love the game. Forced posts are more likely to be found in tone and reactions. Not someone literally stating they had to force themselves to post.

I do agree that town would've most likely replaced out by now.

actually no it isn't.

most people HAVE to work for a living.

playing this game is voluntary and something SHE made the decision to do on her own. if she LOVED this game she would not be disrespecting it by being a useless turd

[Robbnva]

But wouldn't that make her a liability to scum in late game?

possibly but possibly not. there are scenarios where this could not even be a factor or could even help scum down the road but we don't need to talk about it now.

[Robbnva]

I'm not opposed to Acid but I would prefer if he was vigged.

fixed

[Robbnva]

I don't like how he dropped a vanity vote before going v/la right before deadline but i've got bigger fish to fry.

so who else you like for scum?

[Robbnva]

well you haven't really done anything all game so what was your excuse before I hurt your feelings?

[Robbnva]

if someone can explain alch scumreads to me / point me in the direction of a case etc. that would be helpful! don't think he's under contention atm though? so not urgent.

like this post here.

Alch has absolutely nobody voting him when you made this post so why would you even ask for this when you are opposed to a zach lynch and his lynch actually has people on it?

[Robbnva]

I think Syndesis is a classic mislynch

I really hope syn is not town

[Robbnva]

I don't believe it's possible to catch scum off one post that is in RVS.

It's possible. I've done it

[Robbnva]

Proof?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61784&hilit=+Jake

[Robbnva]

Proof?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61784&hilit=+Jake

and he survived to endgame. I guess you can find scum in RVS but I don't think these situations are similar.

And somehow got a gunsmith cleared lynched in lylo. It's pretty much why I tunnel harder now.

[Robbnva]

all the top wagons are shit imo

Shut your mouth. Zach is a perfect fine wagon

[Robbnva]

Anyone up for flashwagoning Torque?

At this point probably not enough time and why derail a Zach wagon but if we have a vig he has a plethora of options

[Robbnva]

Proof?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61784&hilit=+Jake

and he survived to endgame. I guess you can find scum in RVS but I don't think these situations are similar.

And somehow got a gunsmith cleared lynched in lylo. It's pretty much why I tunnel harder now.

How do you feel on Torque

Scummy. Problem is i have like 7/8 really scummy people.

[Robbnva]

all the top wagons are shit imo

Shut your mouth. Zach is a perfect fine wagon

Zach isn't happening. Not enough people willing. And LUV's wagon is shit

If that's true. Acid over torque

[Robbnva]

This game confuses me.

[Robbnva]

Jesus f'n Christ.

Ok. I'm up to date now. I see this lynch only going 2 ways and I scumread Zach more than I scumread LUV right now. I see LUV as a town lean actually. With that said.....

VOTE: Zach

This is an unannounced L-1.

When a player self votes it doesn't matter if you announce or not. The player has given up and admitted they are scum.

[Robbnva]

acid and flufy

[Robbnva]

How is it even possible you are town reading Lilly?

[Robbnva]

Who is Michael and why does he have shitty reads?

[Robbnva]

VOTE: michael

[Robbnva]

Syn replacing out under pressure is bad The replacement is trying too hard and doing a bad job.

Good riddance

[Robbnva]

He scum reads 2 obv town people. He's not taking his time, he's rushing

Syn replacing out was essentially a scum claim

[Robbnva]

Claiming tracker might explain your predecessors play for instance.

lol no it wouldn't. Having a Pr doesn't mean you are allowed to play like shit

[Robbnva]

Can tchill or someone else get on?

What the hell happened to Acid? Feels like he dropped off the face of the Earth.

DOesnt want to bus like cd is

[Robbnva]

That's two mislynches and if I get night killed that's game.

You won't get nk'd

[Robbnva]

Remind me to dodge you in games going forward.

I'm pretty much dodging the entire player list of townies. Whoever they are

[Robbnva]

Remind me to dodge you in games going forward.

I'm pretty much dodging the entire player list of townies. Whoever they are

It's pretty sad when there's a counter-claim and one of the counter-claim is at L1 and someone needs to think before hammering them.

Yeah you and Michael didn't handle this well. It's like the time scum claimed cop with a guilty on his buddy. The buddy CCd and then the real cop claimed

[Robbnva]

Isn't 2009 an actual scum claim?

[Robbnva]

Not a fan of Rob calling my post a wolf claim

It wasn't? That's definitely how it looks.

[Robbnva]

You shouldn't care how people read you. You should just play honest and scumhunt. You instead did some crazy try hard thing and casting doubt on probably the 2 towniest people in the game.

So idk what you were trying to do but it failed