Mini Normal 1943 [Game over]

[iDanyboy]

They sure do. VOTE: Tchill

[iDanyboy]

Hi! Sorry for taking so long to post, I haven't forgot about the game just been busy. If you don't see your name it's because I'm not sure of my opinion of you yet.

[TOWN]

I like Zach a lot his posts in particular Post 408 and Post 413 in which I agree with everything about LUV and Alchemist.

I like Tchill's Post 365 since it would of been easy for him to take a side, his Post 378 feel genuine.

I don't think Fluffyrabbit's Post 74 comes from scum since it would make it easier to catch his contradictions. I don't get his strong tr on acid in Post 134 and would like an explanation. I agree with his push on LUV in Post 144.

I like WhyMafia's push on Acid in Post 454/456.

Syndesis Post 284 seems genunine and scum could have easily used it as an excuse to not post. His Post 344 is pretty funny since someone else had this exact same argument againts LUV to call him town in Breaking Bad mafia but if you look through LUV's games he post the exact same thing every game.

I don't agree with most of Rob's post but I can see that he believes them, not sure either way yet.

[NULL]

[SCUM]

Dislikes Torque's saying that rabbit will never be lynched in Post 386 since his town read is based on one meta game. The strength of the town read does not match with 'you will never be lynched'.

Don't see much analysis in Acids posts and his Post 420 pinged me since the only thing that I posted was a VC in a game i'm modding but he made it seem like I was active and posting content in other games.

I have no idea what Carcalliy would scum read Zach for in Post 84. His town read on LUV in Post 125 worries me because he states he doesn't know how to read him in Post 135. Why would you call someone town and tell people to stop pushing him if you can't read him? In his readlist he pretty much calls everyone town but awesome. He either gives no reasoning or nai reasoning such as being aggressive, moderate and nice. His one scum lean is awesome who he calls 'awkward' which I don't see and says his trying to look town which I don't see either.

VOTE: Carcalilly

[iDanyboy]

Zach scumreads Alch/LUV, I said I agreed with his read on Alch/LUV and I didn't feel like writing it out when it's the same reasoning as Zach, It's pretty clear that I scum read them. I said for Rob that I can understand his reasoning so I put him slightly above Null.

[iDanyboy]

Can The Town Lynch Scum If acidphoenix Townreads The Entire Scum Team? (Players please answer with Yes/No)

Yes.

To me it seems like he is capitalizing on how much people town read him. Feels like he's deluded himself into believing he actually received a green role PM.

I don't understand why you scum read Zach, please explain.

UNVOTE: VOTE: idany

Why me?

[iDanyboy]

your lack of posting is decently bad even post-it being just vcs revelation

No it is not. How does being too busy to post mean I am scum?

[iDanyboy]

I don't get this wagon. Why are you guys voting WM?

[iDanyboy]

because his reasons for a lot of things are too steril

e and his push on acidphoenix is agenda-y in a scummy way and i think he is pushing more town than scum on purpose

I agree with the first part but I don't see the second part.

[iDanyboy]

I didn't realise acid was a PR, I thought he had a personal PT for his toughts.

[iDanyboy]

I thought it was a joke like the one in GD where they are selling topics.

[iDanyboy]

me

[iDanyboy]

I do think he is reaching in his Post 462 since I don't think a lot of his points are scum indicative but I like his initial push on acid([1] [2]). I get what you saying, but I think it's like he found him scummy in his initial push then went through his ISO and confbiased himself, or he could be scum like you say but I still think there's better pushes. I would prefer (carcalilly, LUV, Alch) in that order.

[iDanyboy]

The same reasoning, nothing Carcalilly has posted since my list has made me think she is town

[iDanyboy]

2 days and some change into a 10 day deadline doesn't spell a long day on any planet. That's short as hell.

Usually if a day is 15 pages long, it's long enough. I understand people don't like to be wrong but whatever minor information or details you're waiting on isn't worth the inertia it produces to stall the town. Getting it moving again can be so frustrating and hard. Town needs some momentum to stay engaged and active.

This is what Uzi said in a previous game I played with him. Combine that with his case on Zach which is paper thin.
VOTE: LUV

[iDanyboy]

It's the fact that your shading him for wanting you lynched. He thinks he found scum and wants it lynched which is the same attitude you had that game.I don't see how you could be pushing him for that when you have done the same.

MMM is my strongest scum read and I'm satisfied with where my reads are currently.

I don't personally need anymore from today and I rather not give scum the chance to create apathy by drawing the day out.

This is the exact same logic the Zach used.

[iDanyboy]

That's not the only reason his scum reading you though. Even if it were, If his confident in his scum read of you him wanting you lynched and ending the day is normal but you push it like it's scummy and I know that's not what you think. If you had a problem with his case you would of posted 'your case is not good' but instead you pushed him for wanting to end the day.

[iDanyboy]

Yeah I seriously can't bother to play town on this site anymore. Towns are just awful nowadays and it's more taxing than ever to deal with that as town. I think I'm just going to inform people that moderate games often that I'll most likely replace out in pre-game if I receive a green role PM.

[iDanyboy]

That's not the only reason his scum reading you though. Even if it were, If his confident in his scum read of you him wanting you lynched and ending the day is normal but you push it like it's scummy and I know that's not what you think. If you had a problem with his case you would of posted 'your case is not good' but instead you pushed him for wanting to end the day.

I'm not pushing him for ending the day. I actually haven't pushed him at all.

I just pointed that out because in my experience, town are unlikely to push to end the day this early.

But you have as town, that's my point.

[iDanyboy]

UNVOTE:

Sorry guys I haven't been as active as I should. Literally voted uzi because I've played with him before and I just felt like it in rvs.

His wagon had little to no justification

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I'm more intrigued that he was zach's counter wagon than anything else.

I disagree, my vote is justified, I'm going to need you to expand on this, your town read on Uzi and you read on acidphoenix.
Being a counter wagon doesn't mean anything, you can have two wagons and both be town or they can both be scum, but a wagon by its self is not interesting.

[iDanyboy]

Carcalilliy Post 1189 is atrocious, I don't see how anyone can townread her. She throws out town reads with no justifications and shuts down scum reads with out justifications. What a shock that LUV's entire scum pool is only people that have scum read him. He hasn't explained why Syndesis/me could be scum and your case on Zach is paper thin. I'm surprised Alch is not in there.

I like CD we have the same reads.

@Tchill

please explain why you unvoted Acid and then why you re voted him. Why did you say that 'you didn't get the reaction you wanted'? Did you scum read him or was it a reaction test? Also explain why you town read LUV and why his wagon isn't justified. You also pointed out that it was 'intresting that Zach was LUV's counterwagon' but how is it? When did you go from Synd Null to Town and why?

@WhyMafia

Why is Zach scum? Because he has a bad case? I do agree with you that his case on you isn't great but I don't think his scum.

[iDanyboy]

:/

[iDanyboy]

I'd really love to lynch Carcalilly, but sadly it doesn't look like it's going to happen today.

I will ISO my other 2 scumreads {LUV/Alchemist} shortly to see which one I'd prefer to vote today. Slightly leaning towards LUV right now.

The only remotely good sc out of those is Alch.

Cool. Tell me more.

Luv is probtown

Luv is probscum.

[iDanyboy]

My case on LUV

Post 740 is LUV scum case on Zach. He scum read Zach for his interaction with Lily. He says Zach was annoyed (I don't get that from that post) and this can only be because he is scum with Carcalily or that Zach is scum and is afraid of Carcalilly. He goes from Zach is annoyed therefore he is scum. He also scum read Zach because he said LUV had a red pm but didn't vote him. He then says that this scum read of Zachs is stronger than the one he had on rob. He got all this information from a post made in RVS.

Then is Post 783 he says that Zach is trying to end the day early by trying to get his scum read lynched. This pinged me because in a previous game I played with him he wanted to end the day early because he was confident in his scum read so why is he now sayings it's when Zach does it?

He hasn't done anything from that point on but give a scum pool of Dany, Syndesis, and Zach and who all scum read him. He also hasn't explained why Syndesis and I are scummy.

[iDanyboy]

Your reasons for scumreading LUV are probably NAI for him. I don't know his scumgame, but he's far from off right now.

Probably NAI? How? Presenting bad cases is not AI? Not being consistent is not AI? Is scum reading those who vote you and not explain why not AI?

[iDanyboy]

Please present me your scum cases because I don't know what scummy behavior is.

[iDanyboy]

But I'm waiting for a case to arrive on me. I have a secret weapon!

I don't see one either.

[iDanyboy]

Spoiler:

My case on LUV

Post 740 is LUV scum case on Zach. He scum read Zach for his interaction with Lily. He says Zach was annoyed (I don't get that from that post) and this can only be because he is scum with Carcalily or that Zach is scum and is afraid of Carcalilly. He goes from Zach is annoyed therefore he is scum. He also scum read Zach because he said LUV had a red pm but didn't vote him. He then says that this scum read of Zachs is stronger than the one he had on rob. He got all this information from a post made in RVS.

Then is Post 783 he says that Zach is trying to end the day early by trying to get his scum read lynched. This pinged me because in a previous game I played with him he wanted to end the day early because he was confident in his scum read so why is he now sayings it's when Zach does it?

He hasn't done anything from that point on but give a scum pool of Dany, Syndesis, and Zach and who all scum read him. He also hasn't explained why Syndesis and I are scummy.

Don't get the first point. You keep bringing up Mini 1920 but there was a point in my back and forth with MMM in regards to why I value RVS a lot. Did you know that or did just completely exclude it when you were thinking about part of my case on Zach?

The point I believe said that I basically catch scum not only in RVS, but from one post. Why are none of the conclusions I've made about Zach's play in RVS reasonable? Why are you just calling me out on them now as opposed to earlier or when you first noticed them? I feel like you've been sitting on this for a while and trying to let things snowball before bringing it up.

I've already quoted that I said

usually

15 pages is enough. It's not enough here in this case if you compare Zach's case on me or his case on WhyMafia to the one I had on MMM in that game. There's very little ground for him to feel like the day should've ended that early.

I've explained why I've scum read Syndesis a few times now. How can you not know my issues with her after how long she's been voting for me? I scum read you because I don't think you'd be this gung-ho to lynch me after Mini 1933.

Still waiting for you to address this Dany.

I don't believe it's possible to catch scum off one post that is in RVS. I don't think your conclusions are reasonable because I don't get that annoyed feeling from his post and being annoyed does not mean scum. I called out your case a while ago but I just said it was 'paper thin' because I didn't feel like it needed explaining but since Robb was asking for people to give there cases I decided to give mine. I know you said usually but I think the situations are similar enough. You haven't explained your scum read on Syndesis multiple times the most you said is he is bullshiting in Post 334. What does it matter if I was wrong in Mini 1933? Since I was wrong then I'm wrong here?

[iDanyboy]

What part have I missed?

[iDanyboy]

Why is Zach essentially calling me scum and not voting me at the start of the game as well scum reading me for not thinking he's obvious town paper thin?

Because it was RVS and I think your reading too much into it.
Calling you scum for not seeing he is 'obvtown' is something I've seen other players say, I don't understand it so I don't try to sort that behavior. If you find that scummy you have a point for scum reading him but is it not something you see town say?

[iDanyboy]

Proof?

[iDanyboy]

Proof?

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=61784&hilit=+Jake

and he survived to endgame. I guess you can find scum in RVS but I don't think these situations are similar.

[iDanyboy]

Just have to lynch in:

{Acid, Alch, Zach}

Maybe:

{Dany, tchill}

I'll do Acid/Tchill from that list. I don't see you as scum anymore because the way you handled the hammer was weird.
VOTE: Acid

[iDanyboy]

Vc