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I'm calling chill+ved scumteam

VOTE: Ved
Let's gladiate.

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?

time for punctuation has passed
i am unclear on what you are asking about

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Or you could join the wagon.

<3 wagons
(sry for inside humor)

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Considering I get most Scum right day 1.
I'm calling this Scum.

ya might be sheeping me

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one of the above is opportunistic

unclear on your reason for this

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not using punctuation is cumbersome

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VOTE: Ved
LOL

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ehh. Ok.
Any point in probing Screen since gonna get vigged anyways?
Not feeling the cd wagon atm.
VOTE: Chill

Let's slow things down in general. 4 slots have yet to post content.

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Screen my main SR and jumped on too easily.

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ehh. I'm not organized atm. Ya really want me to case things?
pedit: @Ved

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Ya actually suspecting me here? Ya just saw me as scum.

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I think I am.

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I like vedith for town
VOTE: cd

Actual L-1 btw.

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@Ved If ya not gonna shoot Screen plz say so.
I'll case him if he's not already dead.

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@cd
I'll confirm that Ved being certain about things isn't AI for him.
Nor is BBT pushing an RVS wagon for the sake of getting something to L-1 AI for him.

I agree that the case on ya isn't the strongest, but sheeping a likely town isn't actually that horrible of a play.
(Single townie choosing even at random is statistically better than town collective will and Ved is certainly better than random)
In the case that he is fakeclaiming (and I'm not ruling it out) he traded locking himself into the claim to lynch ya.(which tbh would be worse play than I would expect from scum-him) Still makes sense to let him do that if he's scum, since he not gonna live to LYLO having claimed that.

Still: registering my opinion here that quicklynching is bad. Personally I need time to make good decisions, and I bet it applies to many here,

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What do you think about Elyse putting someone to L-1 without announcing?

Umm. She didn't.
Dunks did that.

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Veidth, stop claiming night actions.

People, stop asking him for night actions. Or suggesting them. Or asking for hints about them.
shame on you tictac.

Makes sense. Question whithdrawn.
Just, now I gotta do stuff..
:/

pedit: ehh ok.
VOTE: Dunks

ppedit: or maybe I don't have to? I'll revisit tomorrow.

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Hey Mulch.
I thought ya were going to change up yer meta, so why are ya reading the same?
Ya making me think I was wrong about yer slot
I don't think ya gonna benefit from defense-mode here. Just act like ya don't have a wagon on for a bit?
I did get a tickle from Elyse also, can ya expand yer read there a bit?

umm please explain what's wrong with putting someone to l-1 there if i think they're scum?

So ya saying here that you knew that was what ya were doing?

There's nothing wrong with L-1. It's the unannounced-part that I have a problem with.
You are aware of the protocol, I've seen ya do it.
tbh I find it disingenuous that ya act like ya don't see the problem here. Did ya have a reason to focus on the "L-1" part?

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From how different you acted with guyy(your partner) in Plants I'm gonna say ya really unlikely to be scum with Mulch here tho.

My guy said the "R" word multiple times

LOL

My guy was a total scumfuck that wasn't scum, so I don't scumread anyone on my wagon for voting me

Plz don't be scum after saying this. I don't want to start using amished.

actually i change my mind. mulch can be town. i think vedith is town too tho

i bet scum were just letting that tvt cd vs vedith play out

don't let me reconsider scum!mulch pls

ok im willing to lynch mulch again

I like this sequence actually.

well we see vedith was hardtunneling him so he is likely scum

But this is ???
Ya called Ved vs Mulch TvT earlier.

I'm also not sure on dunker. I seriously doubt the two of them are both scum though.

Oh cool. Sync.

Vote me, coward. Put your money where your mouth is and face the consequences.

Can we not do the macho bull please?

Now vote yourself

Ok. ick again. (sounds like ya think that something Mulch might actually do as town)

If you make the deal to vote yourself

Promises are against the rules here. I don't know why either, but I kinda like the rule in this case.

If I said 85% how would you feel.
Would it be different if I said 75%?
Maybe just 50-50

What does any of that do to help you?

I tr this.

prev:

I hope you guys associate me and Mulch with each other, there is a high chance we flip the same alignment.

Like WTF? Why do ya think that? Why refer to your own align as something ya not sure about??
VOTE: UnaBomb

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tl;dr Not actually feeling like hard-pushing Screen atm. We'll see how things are on monday. (I'll be here sunday, but not gonna have much time)

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Any chance we cab slow down? No doubt 10 pages of this is complete drivel.

I support this.
Not sure VedMulch can be dammed tho :/

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And I still predict you're gonna be asking for a deadline extension when there's less than one day for the day to end and we have to deadline lynch someone...

I do sympathize with worrying about deadlines.
I think it's unlikely that we'll hit the 14 RL days mark with this playerbase tho.
In the unlikely event that we do hit that mark I think we should just lynch a lurker and be done with the day. (I have a preferred candidate in mind)

Umm, hi there! Who are you an alt of?

Nobody.
I was reading old Plotinus games recently and they commented on that aspect of yer play.

It is possible to scumread anything if you really want to.

I scumread this reaction.

I don't refer to my own alignment as something I'm not sure about.
I know I am for Town, but I can't be sure Mulch is.
I just feel that he is.
And thus, "highly likely" we flip the same alignment.

The reason I scumread 348 is that I don't see that thought forming in a town head, but I can easily see it from scum.

As town I do think about myself being town, but usually in context of "does this person look like they know I'm town" or "am I being transparent enough that me being town is visible"
I think about other people as town or scum, but even when I think they are town I don't think about the fact that they share align with me. Me being town is a different

concept

than others being town because I relate to it from a totally different angle.

On the other hand, as scum I was constantly thinking about myself

in relation to others

. "is there too much associative stuff between me and my partners. Will they be ok if I get lynched?", "I want to look like that guys partner, so he doesn't look like he has none and he get's lynched/ is easier to lynch after I flip"
348 reads to me like a clumsy attempt to create a false associative, or wifom attempt in the form of "Bomba wanted to be associated with Mulch and his scumpartners would not want that, so he's probs not scum with him"

There's a lot of hyperbole thrown around in a mafia game, but this is not one: I literally do not see how that thought occurred to ya if ya town.
Now it's certainly possible that we are just super different on neurological level, but I'm gonna invoke occams razor here and say ya just scum.

The fact he has been the main, and seemingly stand alone wagon of the Day, doesn't sit right with me.

Good point. (see next point tho)

hmm bbt might be scum

I could kinda see it, but only if he's scum with Mulch. Day 1 associatives are generally not very good tho.
Do ya have a non-associative reason to think so?

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Mulch uses different terminology.
TMI = too much information = informed POW

@Screen: Can ya just tell him "69%" to unpause him? I agree that it's asine, but I don't actually think it's unbelievable that he would get stuck like this.
I want to see him do stuff.

@Mulch: I was hoping ya would go to detail a bit when I asked about yer Elyse read. Mostly interested in earlier stuff and reasons are more interesting than intensity.
Also, this was not rhetorical:

why are ya reading the same?

@Chill: Ya got a read on Mulch?

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The "ya" stuff is really annoying though

Talking differently is a conscious playstyle choice.
Sorry if it's annoying, but it's unlikely to chance.

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@tictac

Spoiler:

183 Unah did nothing scummy to warrant a vote and the way they presented it made it clear they wanted it to be perceived that it was a serious and not joke vote
186 is a useless and obvious scum and it means they are posting just to post.
193 is also obviously useless.
And the entire stream of posts from this run on make it clear they care how they are being perceived to be scumhunting.
402 is good but the confidence level isn’t towny, it’s a good post but considering Dunker’s play the rest of the game locking him town is bad, he probably has TMI
415 is pure bullshit, they hadn’t mentioned anything about Tchill in their ISO and the Creature read is so bad
And then this dumbtelling when they’ve played mafia for 4 years

I thought Elyses first post series was tonally awkward, and ya are a tone reader. I was hoping ya would show some sync :/
I've played with town!Elyse, and she was super certain about everything then too. I don't think it's AI.

That said: @Elyse this really the first time that your style brings charges of informed POW? Cause I'm pretty sure I'd be agreeing with Mulch here if I hadn't seen ya play before.

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TvS doesn't explain that fight.

I don't think cd would've put much fight.

I like this thought.

Restating in the way I understood it, cause I don't think ya made it very clear.
"town!Ved is intimidating so it's unlikely that newbscum!cd would put up as much of a fight as he did against him if it's TvS."

@creature: is this what you meant?

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Need to see a lot more from UnaBomba, TChill and Aero.

Ya.
tbh I think the lynch should be in this set if they don't shape up.

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No it doesn't. It makes him more town. I don't see the scum motivation behind doing what he did in the slightest. Seems to me like he has genuine reads.

Kinda agree.
The progression on Ved does bother me tho.

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If something, Dunkers case on cd is one of the most in-depth cases I have seen him make - which funnily pops out the most to me..

Agree. Still not sure what it means, but that case is signifigant in some way.

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We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere.

Can confirm.
I do wanna see him catch up tho. He should be pretty obvtown if he's town.

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Should I unvote Screen even though he hasn't answered my question?

YES.
also: duh.

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Tomorrow Ill be able to sit down and read.

Oh ya. pisskop should maybe be counted among the lurkers.
plz catch up and say stuff.

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umm please explain what's wrong with putting someone to l-1 there if i think they're scum?

So ya saying here that you knew that was what ya were doing?

There's nothing wrong with L-1. It's the unannounced-part that I have a problem with.
You are aware of the protocol, I've seen ya do it.
tbh I find it disingenuous that ya act like ya don't see the problem here.

Did ya have a reason to focus on the "L-1" part?

@dunks: can ya respond to this?

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What do you mean in 349

tictac

I was expecting a larger playstyle difference from you.
In our last game ya made the choice to stick to yer old style, for the sake of yer partners, so I do wonder if ya made a similar choice here. That is why I asked about yer style and yer reasons to play like ya do.
Gonna grant ya that similarity was mostly in Ved vs Mulch and early Mulch vs Screen. Ya more sedate lately.

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No parallel activity on Aero, unless he's alting.

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@Dunks What's yer read on me?

@Chill What's yer read on Mulch?

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Chill has a history of being accurate with Mulch, so I'm weighting that in Mulch-read.
Great, because I have too many SRs otherwise.

The thing about Tchill, is that he makes it obvious whether he is town or scum the more he posts, but he just hasn't posted :/

Another thing about Chill is that this is known to him.

His interaction with the game is super minimal; he has a clear reason to act like that as scum and does not have one as town.
The fact that he does post elsewhere means it's not because busy.

tchill's vote is bad and lazy.

Chill sheeping Mulch given a TR is unsurprising.
Mulch read is the one I asked Chill about tho, and that being the only read he expresses, does read super reticent.

Aero, tchill, elyse, bbt, vedith

I thought ya had a SR on me. Why am I not in this set?

do something, we all know you lurk it out as scum

I have no meta on Aero actually. If someone besides Aero would like to verify or deny this, I would find it helpful.
Also, if this is a bit of generally accepted wisdom irregardless if actual truth value, I would like to know.

can i ask you all who is scum when i flip town?

What is the point of this question?

I don't like this vote. You think Dunks purposely put cd to L-1 hoping for a quicklynch?

I can answer this now.
Original vote on Dunks was a spur of the moment, tho I did think the lack of announce was scummy.
She defended from a weird angle tho. I'd think she would say "oops, I forgot to announce" pretty much immediately when called on it if that is the case.
In 507 she defends against the push, but does not seem to see my second question at all.
She focuses on explaining why what she did isn't scummy, but I don't see an actual effort to

be readable

.
In fact I don't get the feeling she actually read the post, just assumed the content, which is a weird thing to do if she doesn't already have a strong read on me.

Dunks & Chill are about equal in scumminess.
That being the case I prefer to lynch Chill for policy against lurking.
VOTE: Chill

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I'm not lyching Ved today, because of the verifiable claim.
I don't get why that is even a consideration to anyone.

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Dunks and chill are just as scummy but I'll policy lynch for lurking instead of lynching for scum lol

tbh I'd do Aero as full policy if it was later in the day.
Ya qualify as both scum & policy.

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Verdith as a 3rd party maybe?

I'm currently assuming ya a 3rd party actually.

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Ya. This page does look good on Dunks.
I don't have the greatest history using emotional tells tho :/

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well crap.

I guess Im on a vanity wagon then.

vote Chill.

also:

Aero, tchill, elyse, bbt, vedith

I thought ya had a SR on me. Why am I not in this set?

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@Dunks What's yer read on UnaBomb? In as much detail as ya can give.

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Well, I'm definitely flipping town. My role card was greenish. The hue was a little off but that's the mods fault not mine.

Whoo

My role-card is uncolored.
Llama is lazy and this is a lie.
VOTE: Screen

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well crap.

I guess Im on a vanity wagon then.

vote Chill

.

vote Screen

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Should have used that to gambit for more..
My bad :/

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So your not green?

That is indeed the case.
I don't think there are green PMs in this game.

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Well, I'm definitely flipping town. My role card was greenish. The hue was a little off but that's the mods fault not mine.

Whoo

My role-card is uncolored.
Llama is lazy and this is a lie.
VOTE: Screen

Hokay. Looks like this is convincing to no-one.
That is not at all what I expected.
Can someone please tell me where I'm going wrong?

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k then.
I think you and pisskop use the word 'sarcasm' differently than I do.
Point about OP is a good one.
VOTE: Chill

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I would rather see more of chilly before we rope him.

Yea.
I don't think it's gonna happen tho.

We really sparing the rope because lurking is a defense now?

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I might change my vote on Una if anyone else wants to want there.

ditto

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your style is odd to me.

We played together in viewtopic.php?f=53&t=65168

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k then.
I think you and pisskop use the word 'sarcasm' differently than I do.
Point about OP is a good one.
VOTE: Chill

How would lynching me be more beneficial to the state of the game than lynching pisskop or dunker? Then you quickly say you're willing to change your vote to una.

1. You have a greater chance to flip scum than either of those.
2. You chose to lurk, which makes you less useful as town than either of those.
3. Duh.

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In post 621, Srceenplay wrote:
So your not green?

That is indeed the case.

Omg. No one is going to jump all over this?
Is this not a scum tell? What am I missing.

You are Vanilla Town.

You have no special powers, only your vote and your voice.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Please confirm your role via PM.

Town PM is not green.

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Tchill, give me 2 scumreads and why

I'll note that this did not get answered.

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Well, I'm definitely flipping town. My role card was greenish.

The hue was a little off but that's the mods fault not mine

.

I still don't get how talking about the hue being off is not meant to imply actually looking at the PM.
Still possible that it's a LAMIST attempt gone awry and Screen clearly didn't read post 1, and would thus not know the actual color as scum.

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I propose this. We give tchill 2 days to give real content, if he dosen't we lynch him.

That's fine. I'm not proposing a fast-lynch anyways. We have time.

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Wasn't that a joke?

Yea.
A joke could still be meant to make yourself look towny.

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Ive played close to 100 games onsite.

Ya.
Just a refresher in case it helps in getting a read.

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Thought it was a joke to this:

can we all stop saying 'im gonna flip town'. Everyone says that.

Rather than actual LAMIST.

Ya. It's the 'hue was off' bit I'm not parsing as a joke.

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In post 621, Srceenplay wrote:
So your not green?

That is indeed the case.

Omg. No one is going to jump all over this?
Is this not a scum tell? What am I missing.

Also, why did you not jump on me if ya thought it was a scumtell?

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It's more the 72h prod period.
48h p-period means ya gotta post every day if ya wanna be sure to not get prodded.
72h means posting every other day, so it's more like twice the normal length than +50 %

I kinda like the super long day. Means nobody can say "oops, I happened to be busy for 3 weeks"
If people neglect to comment on gamestate it can be assumed to be a choice on their part and not an accident.
I got no problem twiddling my thumbs for a bit while we wait for the less frequent posters to have their say.

That said, I don't think I'm gonna delay consolidation-mode for

much

longer. Monday or tuesday maybe, I dunno.
I still hold some hope that people will come to their senses about chill before that tho. (or indeed about Una, but I have less hope that is gonna happen)

I'm tentatively pairing Dunks with Una btw, That's why I asked for that read, and I did receive something that looks like a partner-read as an answer.
In case people would like to see if they agree and if that affects anything. Day 1 associative tho.

reasoning on Chill is in 588
reasoning on Una is in 386

In case someone missed those.

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VOTE: Una

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I had pisskop as soft scumlean from 528 onwards, and that lead to Mulch, Tchill13, Elyse becoming townlean to me.
So either from Dunker/pisskop could flip scum, but I'm most interested in BlueBloodedToffee, Creature, Vedith, Srceenplay for now.

Ya got half the playerlist on yer scumpile and all yer townleans come from a single pre-flip associative..
seriously.

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Also lol @ people not voting Mulch cause there was no counterwagon and that being the reason counterwagons started

Ely pretty clearly just getting to reading the game here.
I actually think being unaware of a major wagon movement is a minor townpoint :/

Sorry for the miss spelling Elyse lol. As far as I'm concerned there's more reason to believe Elyse is town when it comes to either lynching Elyse or pisskop.

Well, yea. I don't know why those should be the options tho.
Because Mulch wants them, from your POW?

Your opinions on Creature/Srceenplay?

Why are

ya

doing dichotomies?

But don't we lose half of the players before the end anyway?

I suppose so. That relates to yer number of scumreads how?

That or Im just saying words to get conversation going as scum?
Because I want to activate conversation and provoke people as scum, sure.

See how two of the people I marked red started voting me without any reasoning on why.

People will vote ya when ya say scummy stuff, it's true. That doesn't mean saying scummy stuff is towny

If me looking over VCs and forming my reads from that is reason enough to vote me, well..guess your scumreads aren't very solid either.

That is not my reason and you don't think it is.

Also: voting people just because they vote you is NOT logical.
Its just people getting scumread as town, and they don't like to face the fact that they arent obvious town to all.

True. What does this relate to tho?

VOTE: BBT

Bah, I'm thinking we should do a lynch.

That's surprizing. Why BBT?

I can agree on pisskop, but disagree on Elyse.

Actually agree with this, kinda.

431 pretty much sums it up and then 677 is a severe problem as it shows lack of read progression after Tchill had gotten townier with their previous posts (slightly) and I definitely have been townier as the day goes on.

Problem is, that 431 is all about the 110% certainty Ely has about everything and that is not AI.
Lack if progression naturally follows from lack if reading. If she faked not reading to defend against yer point

before ya made it

I will be seriously impressed..

I'm not sure that not keeping up with the game is AI. I can see scum or town doing that. I can see careless town doing that way more than scum.

Ookay. Chill can be town then.

pisskop is scum, folks. I've played many games with him and this is not his townself. Just look at how awful his vote on me is.

pisskop vote on ya looks like a policy. Is that uncharacteristic for him? Why is this the moment ya start to seriously push him?

Ely couldnt tell me apart from scumme if I danced around naked with the word scum written on my chest.

Is that what she believes tho? If ya can cite sources to that effect I'd vote Ely.

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Scumkop gets so townread he spends the game trolling or above suspicion.

Eech.

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she can show us her finding me as scum

I don't care if she can actually read you.
I care if she

thinks she can

.

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I don't think Una is gonna happen.

VOTE: Dunks
Prefer this to Kop.
The reads were indeed kinda towny, but the timing fucks up the motivation for them.

Elyse is kinda tied with Aero at the mo. I'd do a late-day policy if I have to, but don't see much scum there currently.

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Tic, what do you mean about them doing a defense before I made the post?

Well she either unintentionally demostrated not reading, or did that intentionally.
Only intentional motivation I can think of is it makes "frozed reads" unscummy.

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What's with people adding an extra e to the end of my name?

Also lol @ people not voting Mulch cause there was no counterwagon and that being the reason counterwagons started

431 pretty much sums it up and then 677 is a severe problem as it shows

lack of read progression

after Tchill had gotten townier with their previous posts (slightly) and I definitely have been townier as the day goes on.

relevant posts.

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What part don't ya see? Her not reading?
There's no reason to comment on how your wagon dissolved unless she just found out how.

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calling out tchill for not giving reasons for voting her when he did ON THE SAME PLACED he voted her so it means that they are dead ass caught lying.

Eeh. She's not totally new or dumb.
Mistakes are a thing that happens especially when people don't care.

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Why not?

Because it's totally disjointed from the gamestate.

And she's been responding to the entire thread, she's not not caught up reading.

anymore
There was a signifigant period when she was MIA.
I think she followed somewhat in the beginning. Latest posting is mostly responding to the prodge and Kop calling her out for not reading I think.

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Why the hell is this allignment indicative?

It isn't.
It's a reason why the 'frozen reads' thing isn't either.

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When someone doesn't read, their reads don't change.

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@tchill
What are Mulch's reasons to vote me? You say he gives good ones but I've yet to find any reason at all

Ya talking about this?

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duh. ya quoted it.
head doesn't work

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Lol I have a strong urge to wagon aeronaut, don't ask me why

Lol, yeah.
But that's for if we can't agree on actual scum.

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VOTE: pisskop
for cohesion.

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@tic

I think you should explain why you care about ely believing she can read me

umm.

Saying stuff one does not believe is called 'lying'.
Lying is a scummy thing to do.
If Elyse pushed ya on personal ability to read ya without believing herself to posess such an ability, that information is relevant to how I read her.

This does not strike me as information you are likely to be unaware of.
Why are ya asking about this?

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No. I asked you if ya have contrary evidence, since ya are who asserted that she can't read ya.
I don't base reads on her actual ability to read ya. That's why I said I don't care about that.

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Meh. I think this is actually towny of ya since I was predictably going to switch back to Dunks when ya asked me that.
I don't see why ya'd want to antagonize me at a time like that as scum.
Ya should maybe read better tho.

VOTE: Dunks

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Youve voted and left the idea alone. Like a little scumnugget?

Which vote are ya talking about here?

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hmm tictac might be scum too

@tictac does this game look similar to my scum game i played that u were in (newbie 1811)?

Can ya expand on this a bit before I answer?

Do you agree with Kops push on me?
Ya think I should townread ya because of dissimilar play? Why? What are the largest differences I should be noticing?
Why now? Ya didn't have a problem with me scumreading you earlier.
Any other reasons?

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Blue wouldn't bus me this hard

I still think we're both town

Another strange thing about this is that the bolded only works as a defense of BBT if Dunks is scum.

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hmm tictac might be scum too

@tictac does this game look similar to my scum game i played that u were in (newbie 1811)?

Can ya expand on this a bit before I answer?

Do you agree with Kops push on me?
Ya think I should townread ya because of dissimilar play? Why? What are the largest differences I should be noticing?
Why now? Ya didn't have a problem with me scumreading you earlier.
Any other reasons?

No response to this one.

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I'm ready to lynch Dunks. Just waiting for people to catch up.

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Tictac: what if Dunks isn't scum?

Well, it's possible? What are ya actually asking about here?

Do I need to go into spam mulch in order to have us lynch someone?

We not gonna no-lynch.

The good thing about PantherPunt is that you can tell his alignment in his first five posts.

This man is one of the best town and scum players I have ever seen

Being a good scum-player and easy to read seem to be contradictory things even accounting for different reading styles.

Unless this site has implemented light colored skins

Those do exist.

That makes utterly no sense and talking further about it is the only thing that could be angly so lettuce play werewolf bub

lettuce?

savants on ms concocted wolf/wolf wagons

LOL

Intent to hammer whoever gets to L-1 first

Oh yea. Can ya not?
The only thing ya are doing is delay people putting things at L-1.
Ya are not making things move faster. Ya are making them slower

and

we can't get proper L-1/intent if ya do this.
Remember our last game and how everyone important was claimed on day 1? That was because they didn't trust they would have time to claim under intent as is good and proper.

tictac posts in first 12 pages were borderline TTTBT

Looking town as scum isn't exactly my forte

Anyone's willing to test other wagons? We can always return to Dunkerdoodles...

What do ya want to try?

I want to lynch him because he's doing fuck all. Most scummy really isn't a part of the conversation. We aren't talking about him, we aren't applying pressure to him. We are letting him coast. Why are we letting someone not scum hunting coast?

Actually Creature pushed against Mulch wagon, when nobody was doing so. so he does have novel content.
He isn't the most articulate player, but I don't think he qualifies for a policy.

Town don't say "I'm cool with being lynched" in my experience

Yea they do, but so does scum.

has seen my scum play before do I'd assume he'd be a bit more cautious voting me.

Why would seeing your scumgame make me more cautious?
tbh I didn't pay a huge amount of attention to ya in that game. Ya were in a slot I considered towny, and I was aware ya had a rep for being lynchbaity.
That was a mistake, I don't wish to repeat.

If ya town answers to 810 would still be appreciated.

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VOTE: pisskop

How is this for anything but appearance purposes??? (on a wagon you're seemingly already on?)

Not the first time I've seen Chill be unaware a lynch has already occurred..

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Gonna laugh so hard if Dunks is secretly loved

re-vote is the new prodge ever since some mods started to require content to reset the timer.

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VOTE: pisskop
Let's do a twilight quickwagon here.
Probs for no reason.

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97: This is stupid, but stupid town. It's completely the wrong question and missing the point how town does
212: seems town motivated; you don't want to leash a pr day 1, and declaring targets only tells scum your plan
626: Is pretty damn accurate of how Screens been playing this game.

There's more but I've had an 11+ hour workshift and I don't give a shit now.

The link for post 626 does not go to that post. Why is that?
Why was Creature a better policy than havingfitz?

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VOTE: Ghostlin

The reason he gave for PK being town is some hot garbage.

Do ya believe garbage reasoning is more likely to come from scum?

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Switch in Ghost for Panther here, and that's where I stand now.

Your reads on me and Una sounded stronger than the read on Panther
Is that accurate for Ghost read too?

Do you believe yesterday was likely to end with someone outside of pisskop/Dunks getting lynched?

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Do ya believe garbage reasoning is more likely to come from scum?

For townreading people, yes

That question was for Morality..

Ya know Vedith better than I do. How likely is he to fakeclaim Vig as town?

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@Morality

Also, just a side note, I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm attempting to just be Light from Death Note on this account. It'll be more fun when I eventually roll scum, haha.

LOL.
Would ya mind outing your alt? Are ya alting for fun or is there a deeper reason?
Who would Light have killed last NIght?

It could have ended elsewhere. Day 1's are rather hard to predict based on a complete lack of information.

I was unclear, sorry.
I meant to ask about the end of day. Let's say from 785 onwards.
Assuming that the answer is the same, where do ya think the wagons might have rolled? Do ya have something specific in mind?

@Ghost

97: This is stupid, but stupid town. It's completely the wrong question and missing the point how town does
212: seems town motivated; you don't want to leash a pr day 1, and declaring targets only tells scum your plan
626: Is pretty damn accurate of how Screens been playing this game.

There's more but I've had an 11+ hour workshift and I don't give a shit now.

The link for post 626 does not go to that post. Why is that?
Why was Creature a better policy than havingfitz?

Ya missed this.
Also: What was the point Pisskop missed in 97?
I agree with 212 being pro-town btw.

Bonus fact that you should keep in mind regardless of my alignment; there's high probability of scum on my wagon.

Why would that be true for scum!you?

@BBT

I found scum.

What more do you want me to do?

What's yer reasoning on Ghost?

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What are your thoughts on 1043?