Mini Normal 1941 - Game Over

[Dunkerdoodles]

quicklynch gogogo
VOTE: vedith

[Dunkerdoodles]

Sup

[Dunkerdoodles]

I like vedith for town
VOTE: cd

[Dunkerdoodles]

umm please explain what's wrong with putting someone to l-1 there if i think they're scum?

[Dunkerdoodles]

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

because i agree with vedith and his posts r scummy

[Dunkerdoodles]

no i agree with vedith about cd. idk about chilly yet

[Dunkerdoodles]

woo another game with mulch
except i think you're scum this time

[Dunkerdoodles]

Or 1 v 2 if you count Chilly on your team.

here ill join your team to make it 2v2

[Dunkerdoodles]

your pred and you are scum until you convice me otherwise

[Dunkerdoodles]

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

literally worst first post i've ever seen

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

This is scum looking for a reason to hammer early.
Proved to not read the game as believed it was L1.

Vedith \o/

Actually, that was me reaction testing and this reaction is pretty shit.

soon calls it a reaction test and in general i'm not a fan of this excuse cause you could literally say almost anything is a reaction test

It's actually insane how retarded this game is.

Vedith is voting me for not voting someone he wanted me to vote on page 2. And then the rest of the votes on me are from people riding his dick.

I don't care about Vedith's claim and I am completely ignoring it. Look at the way he's playing and there's no way anyone should consider him to be the person leading a wagon here.

If this game keeps going this direction, it's going to be a pure waste of time for everyone.

faked frustration

If it's not reaction testing, how come you reacted to it? And reacted to it poorly, must I add. And if it was "scum all day", why didn't you quote it when you initially voted me?

scummy post imho

Post 53 is the reaction of yours that I'm talking about that I thought was completely shit.

i don't see how 53 is a bad reaction. it seems completely townie and is a fair point.

For the other people on this table: if I do end up getting lynched ultimately, do not trust Vedith going forward. I'm sure there will only be one kill the next night and he'll pretend he got role-blocked or some stupid shit. The confidence he currently has makes absolutely no sense if he's town. He's so dead-set on Chilly and I being scum for next-to-no-reason.

vedith has clearly expressed why you are scum. they're plenty of reasoning as you see in this post, "next-to-no reason" is a big overstatement.

Jesus christ, this table is awful.

"We need a flip 2 days into the game starting"

I've actually never played with such bad players.

more faked frustration

Everyone knows that I'm a confident player when I find scum.
You have refused to present why you are town, even though nice guy Vedith gave the chance.

So we say good bye to you now.

Again, my job isn't to present to anyone why I'm town. That's mafia's job. If you're so good—you would know that.

this is false. as town you still want to seem townie so you don't get mislynched. obviously i am not very good at this, but i think i'm improving and it doesn't make ^ irrelevant. right now you instead of telling us why you're town, you're just attacking vedith saying how bad of a player he is. that is not very townie.

i kinda wrote this pretending cd was still in this game cause it was easier. but anyways there's my probably biased but still accurate iso analysis.

[Dunkerdoodles]

actually i change my mind. mulch can be town. i think vedith is town too tho

[Dunkerdoodles]

actually i change my mind. mulch can be town. i think vedith is town too tho

Why are you voting me?

oops
UNVOTE:

[Dunkerdoodles]

i bet scum were just letting that tvt cd vs vedith play out

[Dunkerdoodles]

don't let me reconsider scum!mulch pls

[Dunkerdoodles]

ok im willing to lynch mulch again
VOTE: Mulch

L-1

[Dunkerdoodles]

me?

[Dunkerdoodles]

idk i don't really want to give up if he flips town
i just think he will flip scum and if not his town flip gives us a lot of info

[Dunkerdoodles]

well we see vedith was hardtunneling him so he is likely scum

[Dunkerdoodles]

hmm bbt might be scum

[Dunkerdoodles]

Who should I lynch bbt

Dunkers is a great option!

why is this?

[Dunkerdoodles]

that feels pretty opportunistic tbh

[Dunkerdoodles]

You must not be reading.

you didn't explain why you voted for me and i'm asking for the explanation

[Dunkerdoodles]

@bbt, i originally agreed with vedith that this post

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

was scum looking for an early reason to hammer, but later i realised it wasn't actually L-1 so it being a reaction test makes sense. irdk about mulch he's basically null right now.
why are you pushing me so hard? are you aware of my meta at all? (just out of curiosity)

OK, I'm caught up.

Need to see a lot more from UnaBomba, TChill and Aero.

Really happy to just lynch Dunker (and we're approaching page 20 so we should really be looking for a lynch now) and move on into Day Two.

PEdit - Why wouldn't he put up a fight as town? I'm pretty sure I would have reacted very similar to how CD reacted.

this line feels very pushy like you really want to lynch me and end the day with an easy mislynch.
you also never really explained why you voted me in the first place and never directly answered that question when i asked it before which is scummy.

[Dunkerdoodles]

You can't say "well you would know if you were reading the thread" everytime because everytime you've said that I've gone through your iso and not found the answer.
Now you're obviously refusing to answer a simple question I have asked multiple times and you have clearly seen which is why I'm voting you.
VOTE: BBT

[Dunkerdoodles]

who do we lynch

[Dunkerdoodles]

umm please explain what's wrong with putting someone to l-1 there if i think they're scum?

So ya saying here that you knew that was what ya were doing?

There's nothing wrong with L-1. It's the unannounced-part that I have a problem with.
You are aware of the protocol, I've seen ya do it.
tbh I find it disingenuous that ya act like ya don't see the problem here.

Did ya have a reason to focus on the "L-1" part?

@dunks: can ya respond to this?

lol i thought i responded already my bad
i literally just forgot to say it was l-1, that's all.
i was just saying why i voted him. i would've voted him even if it wasn't L-1, it just happened to be the vote i placed.

VOTE: Dunker

nice prodge

[Dunkerdoodles]

I'm not scum mulch.

nice defense

[Dunkerdoodles]

I'm not scum mulch.

nice defense

i do think this is towny tho lol

[Dunkerdoodles]

We lynching Dunker yet?

why are you so determined to lynch me?

[Dunkerdoodles]

@Dunks What's yer read on me?

@Chill What's yer read on Mulch?

null-lean town

@bbt so if we lynch me, and i flip town (which i will) who is scum?

[Dunkerdoodles]

except i'm town therefore you are wrong
i'm fine with being lynched, i'm just asking who is scum after i flip town?

[Dunkerdoodles]

can i ask you all who is scum when i flip town?

pisskop townreading me is interesting, i think it comes from town tbh.
wouldn't scum!pisskop just hop on my wagon with a terrible excuse?

[Dunkerdoodles]

can i ask you all who is scum when i flip town?

pisskop townreading me is interesting, i think it comes from town tbh.
wouldn't scum!pisskop just hop on my wagon with a terrible excuse?

@people on my wagon but other people can answer too i guess

[Dunkerdoodles]

answer 581 pls

im curious because i know im going to flip town if i get lynched and i want to know who is scum then because i don't want my lynch to just be a waste.

[Dunkerdoodles]

not really. i'm not really defending myself anyways.
i will say it is very strange how BBT won't answer my question and is focused on me flipping scum.
he is really persistent and tunnelly which reminds me of another game i can't talk about cause it's ongoing.
anyways am i the only one that thinks his push is really bad?

[Dunkerdoodles]

This is the last time I am going to ask this question before I cut all communications with you for the entire day unless you answer it.

I have never seen a town refuse to answer this before, only scum.

To the best of your ability, what percentage chance am I scum?

I have now cut off all communications with you and locked my vote into you for the entire day unless you answer my question. Town don't refuse to answer questions.


Anyone else want to talk about anything?

on first glance this looked very aggressive even for what i've seen from you. this felt almost too aggressive, even from mulch.
the question is a bit hard to answer, not answering it comes from town pov i actually think because scum would say something like "blah blah blah idk 50% or 75% or something". it's hard to come up with a number as town imo and screen's answer or rather no answer felt like it came from town.
this being said you are mulch and i imagine you've probably done it before so i still think your town even tho some of your earlier posting i disagree with.
would you mind linking a scum!mulch game just so i can take a look at it. i have actually never seen you play scum so it'd be interesting to see if you playstyle is the same or if there are noticeable differences.

also i'm going to self meta a bit and say that if you've ever seen me play before i hop all over the place and vote opportunistically as town. i think you've played enough games with me to know that.

[Dunkerdoodles]

i really just wanted to read 1 but 7 works too
i mean, tbh i just really find it hard to read you, i really have no idea. i tend to second guess myself a lot, i voted because i thought that could be scummy behavior from you when really you would probably do that as town too.
i'm just going to put you as null for now, however i am against your lynch today, i think there are better lynch targets.

[Dunkerdoodles]

i love it when people scumread me for mislynchable

[Dunkerdoodles]

i love it when people scumread me for not being mislynchable

edited cause for typo

[Dunkerdoodles]

i love it when people scumread me for not being mislynchable

edited cause for typo

holy crap im tired
i better sleep

[Dunkerdoodles]

I don't like sitting on my vote, so VOTE: Srceenplay.

I hope you guys associate me and Mulch with each other, there is a high chance we flip the same alignment.

interesting line

Spoiler:

How about you ISO Dunker and tell me your opinion on him?

So far I think I have only seen town!Dunker in the games I have played/read, and he has been quite lynch-baity in all of them.
His ropejumping with scum!Mulch was not very "clean", but then again, Mulch is always one to divide opinions.
His posts can go from 0 to 100 in a page, and he is good at provoking others, so maybe Dunker caught some of that, and bounced back to voting.

If something, Dunkers case on cd is one of the most in-depth cases I have seen him make - which funnily pops out the most to me..
..but I can't force myself to scumread him for that, it would be silly only based on meta. (scumread a player for putting effort into a post because you don't think they normally do..? )

Null+ / townlean for now.

I don't understand how applying pressure and forcing someone to contribute more than what they're currently doing doesn't help you develop a read.

You don't need to be looking for all 3 scum either - you only need one for Day One and then you go from there.

In my experience Dunker doesn't react to pressure either way. So as I said, voting him leads to nothing but a lynch, and currently I don't read him as scum.

I don't even need a scum D1..I just need a lynch that gives me as much info on multiple alignments as possible. (this is currently my favorite provocation-thing to say)

So what you're saying is you don't want to use meta to scum read him but you will use meta to defend your position of not wanting to join the wagon?

Ech..if you want to twist my words to the extreme, then go ahead.

Very simply put: Dunker is not coming off as scum to me (based on meta), with the one exception of him making a longer explanatory post on his case on cd (which is good for town imo, even if it's not typical Dunker).

And also: my meta on him is still limited to something like 3/4 games I have played/read.

He made one post that helped the gamestate (in my opinion at least), and I should discard everything else he has written just because that one post is an exception from his "meta"-play?

I can't say I agree.

Either way, you have made your position clear. You would like to steer clear of the Dunker wagon without either a read or solid reasoning for why you want to do so.

If this isn't twisting my words, I don't know what it is..

Let me rephrase it for you: I do not feel a need to wagon Dunker based on his actions in this game, especially when taken into account the limited meta I have of him.

this whole thing about me feels very towny, now i hope i'm not being pocketed but it feels genuine.

UnaBomba also looks bad.

I feel like they could be trying to pocket me but they are tonally sound

I wouldn't dare to try and pocket anyone.
Especially not you: you are so good in this game and way above everyone else!

(in all honesty, I have been a bit too lazy with this game, but early game has never been my strong suit)

agree with mulch here, and una's reaction is fine.

can you remind me about your scumreads and a brief why?

I haven't been very loud about my reads so far.

BBT could be posing town, and chill has been rather invisible this game. Nothing much to share yet.
And behold, they are both on my "pool" mentioned earlier..

interesting here how he townreads BBT even though he was noticeably against him earlier.

Vote Count

Dunkerdoodles (3) - BlueBloodedToffee, Creature, Vedith
pisskop (3) - Mulch, Tchill13, Elyse
Srceenplay (1) - UnaBombaH
Tchill13 (1) - Srceenplay
BlueBloodedToffee (1) - Dunkerdoodles
UnaBombaH (1) - tictac
Vedith (1) - pisskop

Not Voting (1) - Aeronaut

..so pisskop vs Dunker, and pisskop could be the derailing wagon if Dunker is a scumstor.

I see much potential in terms on intel if we go through with either one of these wagons.
For now, I'll go with VOTE: Dunker

now jumps on my wagon with no real reason, after defending me earlier.

so basically una's early post had good tone and were written well but this is probably his scummiest post.
i don't think he's lynch worthy today, however i won't rule him out as scum.

[Dunkerdoodles]

Well, I'm definitely flipping town. My role card was greenish. The hue was a little off but that's the mods fault not mine.

Whoo

My role-card is uncolored.
Llama is lazy and this is a lie.
VOTE: Screen

Hokay. Looks like this is convincing to no-one.
That is not at all what I expected.
Can someone please tell me where I'm going wrong?

i think screen's comment was supposed to be sarcastic.
also theres a VT rolecard in the OP

[Dunkerdoodles]

so i don't particularly know how to defend myself
i can however say BBT's push on me was terrible even if it does come from town

[Dunkerdoodles]

ok, here's a wall post. don't read it if you don't want to

Spoiler:

01. Aeronaut
lurker slot, can't really say anything about him.
02. Elyse

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

This is scum looking for a reason to hammer early.
Proved to not read the game as believed it was L1.

Vedith \o/

Actually, that was me reaction testing and this reaction is pretty shit.

Calling bullshit on this

For the other people on this table: if I do end up getting lynched ultimately, do not trust Vedith going forward. I'm sure there will only be one kill the next night and he'll pretend he got role-blocked or some stupid shit. The confidence he currently has makes absolutely no sense if he's town. He's so dead-set on Chilly and I being scum for next-to-no-reason.

This post looks townie

flip flops read on cd

VOTE: cd

for now

I also like votes on Creature and UnaBomba.

I like Vedith for town at the moment

back to scumread cd

I agree that the case on ya isn't the strongest, but sheeping a likely town isn't actually that horrible of a play.
(Single townie choosing even at random is statistically better than town collective will and Ved is certainly better than random)
In the case that he is fakeclaiming (and I'm not ruling it out) he traded locking himself into the claim to lynch ya.(which tbh would be worse play than I would expect from scum-him) Still makes sense to let him do that if he's scum, since he not gonna live to LYLO having claimed that.

This paragraph gives me scumvibes with all the parentheses idk I feel like you're being too cautious

kinda agree with this tbh

Obviously? Lynching a claimed vig on page 5 or whatever it was seems like bad play, no?

I don't believe the vig claim so that was my question

interesting how she says she doesn't believe that vig claim but hasn't pushed vedith for it...
possible distancing maybe?

I am down to lynch mulch, creature, and tchill

hasn't really pushed either of these, i guess she has shown some scumreads towards mulch and creature tho.
i also find it interesting how she goes along with vedith on lynching tchill, but she doesn't believe his vig claim.
would not be suprised if elyse/vedith were partners

How long have you been playing mafia?

You already acknowledged my joindate.

Look.

I know what the phrase TMI means but I've never seen it used in the context you did. I thought you were saying I was scum with someone named TMI and had no idea who that was.

In your spoilered response to tictac, you say the "information" I have is that my townread on Dunk is too strong - that I must have some inside knowledge

. That's bullshit. Just because I am confident does not mean I am scum.

Dunk is town.

I don't see scum reversing this read so quickly when the wagon is at L-1. And if cd was his scumbuddy then I don't see him putting in the effort of making a case on him only to switch the read

Does his reversal and revote of Mulch change this read at all?

I'm surprised you glossed over that in your catch up.

PEdit - Why can't it be TvS?

No it doesn't. It makes him more town. I don't see the scum motivation behind doing what he did in the slightest. Seems to me like he has genuine reads.

bolded: i can see where that is coming from. usually, i get scumread by people that have never played with me before, the fact that elyse has been townreading me and so confidently is very interesting consider i've never played with her before or even seen her before. could be trying to pocket me possibly? not really sure.

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

again trusts vedith even tho she doubts his vig claim
if elyse is scum tchill probably isn't

VOTE: pisskop

that string of posts is terrible

don't like this vote
03. Creature
creatures iso is pretty dull, a lot of one liners which i do appreciate.

"Hey guys I got a pretty great idea I'm gonna vote without even counting the votes and if I did actually put someone to L-1 and someone else hammered I'll just say I didn't know it was L-1 that's such an excellent idea town won't ever suspect me"

weird post, if he was quickhammered wouldn't we be looking the person who hammered them, not the person who put them at L-1. i don't think i'd be the first one to be suspected if he was quickhammered.
one thing i noticed was he wanted to wagon BBT at the start, but then hopped on my wagon that BBT was leading quite obviously.
also doesn't have really solidified reads i feel, which is fine cause i don't really either.
04. Srceenplay

VOTE: Dunker

jumps on my wagon with no explanation.
nothing else really, seems like he really wants a flip and i don't disagree. overall behevior seems towny.
05. Dunkerdoodles
im town
06. pisskop
town i'm pretty sure. something about his posts says he's town. it's a gutread so could always be wrong but i think hes town.
07. Mulch cd
well mulch is being... mulch again. slot's still null until i figure out how to read mulch. cd was pretty scummy imo tho, but i really don't know.
08. Tchill13
here's all his 11 posts:

VOTE: vedith

He never helps town anyways so we might as well lynch him lol.

could be distancing

VOTE: creature

Vedith I was worried you were at L-1 about 3 different times on my reread. Luckily it was a fake hammer (never seen that before). Creature didn't like any of the wagons though. Why would you say that? You're trying to get town cred. Creature is scum.

kinda agree with this tbh

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

We don't know each other irl but I guess I can see where the assumption comes from. I have stretched myself a little thin at the moment and I apologize for not giving this game adequate time but I will try to catch up tomorrow.

he said he doesn't actually know him irl
@elyse how does this affect ur read?

I'm not scum mulch.

could come from town or scum who knows?

Pretty positive mulch is town at this point in the game. Therefore I'm going to sheep him.

VOTE: pisskop

i don't disagree with this

Pretty sure that's not a valid vote.

the fact he points out the wrong vote could mean something or could be nothing idrk.

tchill's vote is bad and lazy.

I think we can all agree that mulch isnt really a good person to sheep.

Yeah I seen the string of posts you made afterw and I feel like mulch really is a good person to sheep.

interesting

Dunks and chill are just as scummy but I'll policy lynch for lurking instead of lynching for scum lol

cool

Hey drunker doodles do you have anything better to say than "who's scum when I flip town" in your defense?

no, i don't

k then.
I think you and pisskop use the word 'sarcasm' differently than I do.
Point about OP is a good one.
VOTE: Chill

How would lynching me be more beneficial to the state of the game than lynching pisskop or dunker? Then you quickly say you're willing to change your vote to una.

don't really like this post, he's basically saying both me and pisskop r town, even tho he's been scumreading me and pisskop. instead of saying that we are lynching to find scum, he is saying lynching me or pisskop provides more associations and stuff then lynching himself would give because we are posting more. seems a bit illogical to me.
09. BlueBloodedToffee
i don't know what's his deal with tunneling me, but everytime someone tunnels me they turn out to be town so BBT is probably town even tho his case is terrible and he has never responded to my question.

10. UnaBombaH

What I can't find a reason to, is why chill and aero are left alone with the amazing amount of content they have provided?

good post

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

I can get behind this.

I checked his profile too and noticed he has posted multiple times today elsewhere, but not here.

this would be frowned upon on my homesite but i guess its ok here.
i already posted a mini wall on him so you can check that out at 641
11. tictac
i'm too tired to try and iso him right now but from what i remember he seemed similar to another game i played with him where he was town so i will put him as town for now.
12. Vedith
claimed vig, did have a weird reaction to his wagon tho
i'm not a guy who'd lynch a PR claim d1 so.

[Dunkerdoodles]

oh ok, makes sense

[Dunkerdoodles]

i could agree to either
want to start with elyse?

[Dunkerdoodles]

VOTE: BBT

Bah, I'm thinking we should do a lynch.

creature, what made you go from BBT, to me, back to BBT?
i'm wondering why you're scumreading him too

[Dunkerdoodles]

VOTE: BBT

Bah, I'm thinking we should do a lynch.

creature, what made you go from BBT, to me, back to BBT?
i'm wondering why you're scumreading him too

sorry you just went from me to BBT not visa versa.

[Dunkerdoodles]

don't know why i'm voting BBT, never voted him, but ill just
VOTE: Elyse
for now

[Dunkerdoodles]

i actually gutread pisskop as town, i could always be wrong tho.
elyse has inconsistencies in her reads and it isn't really lining up.
i had a case on her in my wall, lemme find it for you

[Dunkerdoodles]

ok, here's a wall post. don't read it if you don't want to

Spoiler:

01. Aeronaut
lurker slot, can't really say anything about him.
02. Elyse

Tell me why he's scum and I'll hammer him.

This is scum looking for a reason to hammer early.
Proved to not read the game as believed it was L1.

Vedith \o/

Actually, that was me reaction testing and this reaction is pretty shit.

Calling bullshit on this

For the other people on this table: if I do end up getting lynched ultimately, do not trust Vedith going forward. I'm sure there will only be one kill the next night and he'll pretend he got role-blocked or some stupid shit. The confidence he currently has makes absolutely no sense if he's town. He's so dead-set on Chilly and I being scum for next-to-no-reason.

This post looks townie

flip flops read on cd

VOTE: cd

for now

I also like votes on Creature and UnaBomba.

I like Vedith for town at the moment

back to scumread cd

I agree that the case on ya isn't the strongest, but sheeping a likely town isn't actually that horrible of a play.
(Single townie choosing even at random is statistically better than town collective will and Ved is certainly better than random)
In the case that he is fakeclaiming (and I'm not ruling it out) he traded locking himself into the claim to lynch ya.(which tbh would be worse play than I would expect from scum-him) Still makes sense to let him do that if he's scum, since he not gonna live to LYLO having claimed that.

This paragraph gives me scumvibes with all the parentheses idk I feel like you're being too cautious

kinda agree with this tbh

Obviously? Lynching a claimed vig on page 5 or whatever it was seems like bad play, no?

I don't believe the vig claim so that was my question

interesting how she says she doesn't believe that vig claim but hasn't pushed vedith for it...
possible distancing maybe?

I am down to lynch mulch, creature, and tchill

hasn't really pushed either of these, i guess she has shown some scumreads towards mulch and creature tho.
i also find it interesting how she goes along with vedith on lynching tchill, but she doesn't believe his vig claim.
would not be suprised if elyse/vedith were partners

How long have you been playing mafia?

You already acknowledged my joindate.

Look.

I know what the phrase TMI means but I've never seen it used in the context you did. I thought you were saying I was scum with someone named TMI and had no idea who that was.

In your spoilered response to tictac, you say the "information" I have is that my townread on Dunk is too strong - that I must have some inside knowledge

. That's bullshit. Just because I am confident does not mean I am scum.

Dunk is town.

I don't see scum reversing this read so quickly when the wagon is at L-1. And if cd was his scumbuddy then I don't see him putting in the effort of making a case on him only to switch the read

Does his reversal and revote of Mulch change this read at all?

I'm surprised you glossed over that in your catch up.

PEdit - Why can't it be TvS?

No it doesn't. It makes him more town. I don't see the scum motivation behind doing what he did in the slightest. Seems to me like he has genuine reads.

bolded: i can see where that is coming from. usually, i get scumread by people that have never played with me before, the fact that elyse has been townreading me and so confidently is very interesting consider i've never played with her before or even seen her before. could be trying to pocket me possibly? not really sure.

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

again trusts vedith even tho she doubts his vig claim
if elyse is scum tchill probably isn't

VOTE: pisskop

that string of posts is terrible

don't like this vote
03. Creature
creatures iso is pretty dull, a lot of one liners which i do appreciate.

"Hey guys I got a pretty great idea I'm gonna vote without even counting the votes and if I did actually put someone to L-1 and someone else hammered I'll just say I didn't know it was L-1 that's such an excellent idea town won't ever suspect me"

weird post, if he was quickhammered wouldn't we be looking the person who hammered them, not the person who put them at L-1. i don't think i'd be the first one to be suspected if he was quickhammered.
one thing i noticed was he wanted to wagon BBT at the start, but then hopped on my wagon that BBT was leading quite obviously.
also doesn't have really solidified reads i feel, which is fine cause i don't really either.
04. Srceenplay

VOTE: Dunker

jumps on my wagon with no explanation.
nothing else really, seems like he really wants a flip and i don't disagree. overall behevior seems towny.
05. Dunkerdoodles
im town
06. pisskop
town i'm pretty sure. something about his posts says he's town. it's a gutread so could always be wrong but i think hes town.
07. Mulch cd
well mulch is being... mulch again. slot's still null until i figure out how to read mulch. cd was pretty scummy imo tho, but i really don't know.
08. Tchill13
here's all his 11 posts:

VOTE: vedith

He never helps town anyways so we might as well lynch him lol.

could be distancing

VOTE: creature

Vedith I was worried you were at L-1 about 3 different times on my reread. Luckily it was a fake hammer (never seen that before). Creature didn't like any of the wagons though. Why would you say that? You're trying to get town cred. Creature is scum.

kinda agree with this tbh

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

We don't know each other irl but I guess I can see where the assumption comes from. I have stretched myself a little thin at the moment and I apologize for not giving this game adequate time but I will try to catch up tomorrow.

he said he doesn't actually know him irl
@elyse how does this affect ur read?

I'm not scum mulch.

could come from town or scum who knows?

Pretty positive mulch is town at this point in the game. Therefore I'm going to sheep him.

VOTE: pisskop

i don't disagree with this

Pretty sure that's not a valid vote.

the fact he points out the wrong vote could mean something or could be nothing idrk.

tchill's vote is bad and lazy.

I think we can all agree that mulch isnt really a good person to sheep.

Yeah I seen the string of posts you made afterw and I feel like mulch really is a good person to sheep.

interesting

Dunks and chill are just as scummy but I'll policy lynch for lurking instead of lynching for scum lol

cool

Hey drunker doodles do you have anything better to say than "who's scum when I flip town" in your defense?

no, i don't

k then.
I think you and pisskop use the word 'sarcasm' differently than I do.
Point about OP is a good one.
VOTE: Chill

How would lynching me be more beneficial to the state of the game than lynching pisskop or dunker? Then you quickly say you're willing to change your vote to una.

don't really like this post, he's basically saying both me and pisskop r town, even tho he's been scumreading me and pisskop. instead of saying that we are lynching to find scum, he is saying lynching me or pisskop provides more associations and stuff then lynching himself would give because we are posting more. seems a bit illogical to me.
09. BlueBloodedToffee
i don't know what's his deal with tunneling me, but everytime someone tunnels me they turn out to be town so BBT is probably town even tho his case is terrible and he has never responded to my question.

10. UnaBombaH

What I can't find a reason to, is why chill and aero are left alone with the amazing amount of content they have provided?

good post

We should lynch tchill. He has two shitty posts and is posting elsewhere. Plus in my experience, when people know each other IRL like Vedith and Tchill apparently do, they usually know how to read each other. I trust Vedith's read.

I can get behind this.

I checked his profile too and noticed he has posted multiple times today elsewhere, but not here.

this would be frowned upon on my homesite but i guess its ok here.
i already posted a mini wall on him so you can check that out at 641
11. tictac
i'm too tired to try and iso him right now but from what i remember he seemed similar to another game i played with him where he was town so i will put him as town for now.
12. Vedith
claimed vig, did have a weird reaction to his wagon tho
i'm not a guy who'd lynch a PR claim d1 so.

here ya go

[Dunkerdoodles]

30 pages and still no lynch.

Gonna be a good game this one.

30 page day ones aren't that rare, why do you keep bringing this up?
seems like you want a lynch pretty bad, why is this?

[Dunkerdoodles]

great.
i'm pretty sure pisskop is town.
me and pisskop both want elyse, can we do that?

[Dunkerdoodles]

hmm tictac might be scum too

@tictac does this game look similar to my scum game i played that u were in (newbie 1811)?

[Dunkerdoodles]

i mean we are also voting pisskop or elyse but that's ok

[Dunkerdoodles]

i mean we are also voting pisskop or elyse

but that's ok

Voting you is ok?

i mean i don't control who you vote

[Dunkerdoodles]

Intent to hammer whoever gets to L-1 first

i like this

[Dunkerdoodles]

my bet is the setup is just 10:2 mountainous

[Dunkerdoodles]

Intent to hammer whoever gets to L-1 first

i like this

Even though it will in all liklihood hammer you?

yeah, but i agree we need a flip, and this also seems like something you would do

[Dunkerdoodles]

tell me in 10 words or less why he is scum and i'll vote him

[Dunkerdoodles]

VOTE: pisskop
alright, hopefully i get proved wrong

[Dunkerdoodles]

i guess you've never seen me play before

[Dunkerdoodles]

i'd rather be lynched than an inactive slot tbh
if you are suggesting we lynch a lurker slot that's kinda scummy

[Dunkerdoodles]

Blue wouldn't bus me this hard
I still think we're both town

[Dunkerdoodles]

Blue wouldn't bus me this hard

I still think we're both town

Another strange thing about this is that the bolded only works as a defense of BBT if Dunks is scum.

this was defending from the accusation that we were partners
BBT's isn't scum with me and it's quite obvious
BBT could still be scum with someone else, but i doubt it.

[Dunkerdoodles]

what if i told you that everytime i've been scumread i've flipped town?
that's obviously not true but i'm just saying.
im cool with being lynched, i don't think we should trust this panther guy quite yet, and i think tictac is scum.

[Dunkerdoodles]

Maybe I should've worded it differently.
I'd obviously prefer not not die, I'd prefer we lynched scum but it's looking like town is set on me or piss and I really don't think pisskop is scum. Of course I could always be wrong about that. I'm always only VT so yeah it is better for me to die than a PR. I don't trust this panther guy, and elyse was scummy imo, tictac also just hopped on my wagon and he has seen my scum play before do I'd assume he'd be a bit more cautious voting me. BBT also death tunneling me is strange, he never answer my question of when I flip town who is scum but he's probably just stubborn town, I don't see scum tunneling so hard and making it obvious, though again could always be wrong.

[Dunkerdoodles]

hmm tictac might be scum too

@tictac does this game look similar to my scum game i played that u were in (newbie 1811)?

Can ya expand on this a bit before I answer?

Do you agree with Kops push on me?
Ya think I should townread ya because of dissimilar play? Why? What are the largest differences I should be noticing?
Why now? Ya didn't have a problem with me scumreading you earlier.
Any other reasons?

he didn't push you, he kinda maybe scumread you but you're not even if his lynch pool.
i don't think that you should, i'm just saying if you think i'm scum here, and i was scum last game there should be some similarities.
i didn't think you were scumreading me earlier, you kinda voted me out of no where which is what i was wondering about.
not really.

can we lynch panther? i think he's scum
VOTE: Panther
on second thought pisskop might be scum too though, irdk

[Dunkerdoodles]

ok im vengeful killing mulch
night guys

[Dunkerdoodles]

jk i think panther and tictac is where you should start tmr

[Dunkerdoodles]

its ok im used to it

[Dunkerdoodles]

first 2 votes were both scum
im a god
jkjk