Rap

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Just finished 17. 22 minutes I'll never get back..

This album was fucking terrible, like probably the worst one I've heard all year, and I'm trying to look at it in the most unbiased way possible. It just feels like a collection of half-assed songs, lyrics than are not only surface level, but just exceptionally bad and very "woe is me" - the way he paints his depression comes off as attention seeking and cringe, and a whole lot of fake deep. The whole Instagram suicide thing makes a lot of sense now, because this album is about as deep and meaningful as that shit was. I don't know how anyone could be a fan of someone and be pleased with something as sparse and incomplete as this.

[Killthestory]

it felt like that 2nd half wasnt even rap but it was just smooth beats that were great with him happening to be on it. he didnt fit and i barely payed attention to what he said.

the intros to the 2nd half were great too. otherwise it was meh and i didnt even bother listening to the 1st half

[Zachstralkita]

Tyler hung himself for Yonkers and we didn't care, so I have no clue why people re- I do




The rest of that is mostly opinionated. Which reminded me you think music is objective it's probably why we're on different planes a lot of the time

[PJ.]

Dude...I've been listening to old southern rap. It's good af.

[Zachstralkita]

southern like Houston or memphis

[PJ.]

Like Atlanta and Alabama and NO

[Zachstralkita]

I forget ATL being integral to the south despite living in the state below it










Uzi curious do you also think $UICIDEBOY$ are wack cause their lyrics are "fake" "edge" or they have no musical talent?

Both of which are false statements, but I see what you were getting at with the X statement. I just don't feel the same at all anecdotally.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Never listened to $UICIDEBOY$ before.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Maybe it might be an age thing.

I don't know how old you are but I know KTS and Wheme are between the ages of 12 and 16. Teens who feel depressed or like outcasts tend to gravitate towards albums like this.

[Zachstralkita]

Well you said it was fake depression which is fine but that doesn't make it fake cause it sticks out as attention grabby or tumblry to you.. You're also making assumptions on people's character too.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Well you said it was fake depression which is fine but that doesn't make it fake cause it sticks out as attention grabby or tumblry to you.. You're also making assumptions on people's character too.

Didn't say it was fake. I said the way he expresses it comes off cringe.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Earl for instance may be boring but at least he does a good job of not coming off like he's seeking for attention with his depression.

[PJ.]

Who is this? xxx?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yep.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't feel music is worth arguing over. A universal source of enjoyment should be factored with subjectivity.


still Uzi's album is probably more of a rap album than XXX's, I think.

Earl for instance may be boring but at least he does a good job of not coming off like he's seeking for attention with his depression.

I understand what you're saying. I can't see that you'd see XXX was seeking attention for depression without already having had that notion before, though.

Never listened to $UICIDEBOY$ before.

Hmmmmmmmmm I guess that makes sense

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It isn't but its fun!

[Zachstralkita]

I get the whole fake woke depression emo thing vibe people have when they look at X, but it's usually something people do upon encountering his music. You're saying it came off like that in his album which is a matter of how you interpret it, I guess. As for not liking the songs, I can't relate. Like the ones that aren't good, I just don't like and wouldn't play. To actually say it's bad I'd have to be reaching. I don't make my final conclusion on albums until I've played them through a couple of times over so I don't really know how I feel though.



Earl probably has the best take on depression overall. Doris was art.

If I had to make a list of what I consider new age classics Doris and 1999 would probably be on there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

New age in terms of influence?

Finally Rich
Yeezus

I'd say these two albums helped dramatically shape 80% percent of hip-hop currently.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

In terms of quality, could go on for days. I've been on a Mac Miller binge recently and I think he's got a good case for top 15 from this decade.

[Zachstralkita]

I was gonna talk about Mac Miller, but yeah. He's amazingly versatile as an artist and his discography hits everything for me and there's a transition to be witnessed.


LUCKI's discography is sort of similar but bar for bar I think Mac just has more bars. LUCKI taking that new wave tho, he hasn't even close to his peak I think.

New age in terms of influence?

Finally Rich
Yeezus

I'd say these two albums helped dramatically shape 80% percent of hip-hop currently.

we dont talk about chief keef or kanye given that we already pray and commit ritual sacrifice to them and based god..

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I assume that goes for Kendrick too

4:44
Barter 6
DS2
Everybody Looking
Live.Love.A$AP
Pinata
SremmLife 1 & 2
Watching Movies with the Sound Off

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drake to me doesn't have one but Take Care, NWTS, and IFYRTITL are all very good.

[Zachstralkita]

just some odd names off the top of my head i guess, some of these are really offfhand not official list and theres no order here




GKMC
Section 80
1999
AmeriKKKan Korruption(debatable i feel like capital steez potential was largely unrealized before his death)
Alternative Trap
Indigoism
Doris
Wolf
WMWTSO
Faces
Polo Sporting Goods
V.I.C.E.S.
17 More Minutes
Lean & Neck
Pinata
Watch My Back
You Are Forgiven EP
Shyne Coldchain Vol 1 / Summertime 06 / BFT

[hiplop]

MBDTF is more influential than yeezus, i think


(Though which kanye album is most influential is kinda redudnant. Rap today is an equation comprised of a few styles kanye created)

[Killthestory]

Maybe it might be an age thing.

I don't know how old you are but I know KTS and Wheme are between the ages of 12 and 16. Teens who feel depressed or like outcasts tend to gravitate towards albums like this.

excuse me?