Mini 1936: Yume's Cutsie U-Pick (Town Win!)

[gerryoat]

then why did you do it again lol

[Yume]

Because mod was ambigious regarding that in his PM.

[Radical Rat]

So.... If you were just gonna lynch me either way.... What was even the point

[Varsoon]

VOTE: RadicalRodent

Y'got it, boss.

[Yume]

Well, I was kinda hoping it would go through and the game would be over. Besides, you did say you are willing to prove it with your flip if we lynched Shi afterwards. Commit.

[Radical Rat]

If my flip's what it'll take, so be it.

I just didn't expect to get lynched after a cop inno, but there's always tomorrow I guess

[Varsoon]

Well, it's not really an inno given the circumstances. :/

[Aristophanes]

I couldn't not

VC 5.LYNCH!!!

Radical Rat

(4): Shiro 1555, Yume 1657, gerryoat 1553, Varsoon 1678

Shiro

(1): Radical Rat 1538

Not Voting

(1): The Wood Cutters

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
D4 will end when a hammer is reached or on Friday, September 8/17 at 1AM EST in (expired on 2017-09-08 01:00:00)

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[Aristophanes]

Radical Rat, poor Radical Rat
Why did you have to be lynched today!?!?

Spoiler: What was the poor Rat's role?

An Axolotl,

Scum 1-shot Timed Unkillable

!!!

N5 begins now and ends Friday, September 1/17 at 2pm EST or in (expired on 2017-09-01 14:00:00)

[Aristophanes]

Spoiler:

I'm kidding, the game is over

Town Wins!!!

[Varsoon]

Good call, Yume.

[Yume]

Rise Up, Rise Up, Dead people

Victory is ours

Spoiler:

and mine

Sorry you had to be scum, Army/Reasonably Rational

[Cerberus v666]

Gg, congrats town.

Yume, you did super well. Basically the only person actively pushing the fact that there basically HAD to be scum withing ShiroRATR, and pointing out the one mistake I saw Rat make during his main thread day play: eroding confidence on your cop result, instead of simply being adamant that it would show he was town.

One mistake you did make though was lynching Rat today. Given that you knew there was scum in Shiro/RR, you basically had to decide if, all else being equal, Shiro would, as scum, fake that claim, or if Rat would scumclaim in a pt. Viewed from that perspective, both were equally likely to be scum flips. However, given the actions you took today and the assumptions being made, it just made more sense to, as Varsoon said, lynch Rat another day...which meant Shiro was the optimal lynch for the day.

The end result would have been the same, but I'm just cautioning you to not be results oriented and realize that though it worked this time in keeping scum from having an extra night, and it wouldn't have mattered in the end result of the game either way, the reasoning used was a bit off.

Regardless though, good job to most of the town.

@Aristophanes:I believe the secondary target of the deflect...should have been affected by my nexus outright. So, instead of there being a 50% chance of that shot being redirected, the deflect should have instead always ended up redirecting to someone else. Didn't end up mattering, but I think that makes more sense.

[Cerberus v666]

I'm really interested in how this would have played out if we had 1) actually performed our gambit properly, and 2) having failed to do so, instead went with plan B, killing town that night, and claiming that our IC claim was made to draw scum into shooting at us.

[Yume]

Yeah, probably. But as far as I know, he could have used the night to develop the way to smooth-talk his way out of it, just like you yourself almost did in SU2. I couldn't have let that happen, because my one weakness is being susceptible to buddying, as Eyeball/Skybird had proven.

[Aristophanes]

Mafia, Dead, and Mod PTs are being released now. Review Thread too.

Any other hoods will not be released until the duration of the "N5" timer runs out. If you would not like it released, please say so. I already have some requests for that, and thus will not be releasing them all.

Mafia PT
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Review Thread

[Yume]

I will remember that for the future, and I guess this is our formal goodbye, since Drixxy retired.

[Varsoon]

I'm just curious what my role actually did/gave out?
I wanna see all the setup and night actions.

[gerryoat]

I knew we shouldnt have trusted a rat!!!

TWC why u so scummy >.>

[Aristophanes]

I'm just curious what my role actually did/gave out?
I wanna see all the setup and night actions.

I can share the PMs if you like (they aren't in the Mod PT). The roles that I settled on are though

[Yume]

And I lied. The BP was one-shot as well.

[Aristophanes]

@Aristophanes:I believe the secondary target of the deflect...should have been affected by my nexus outright. So, instead of there being a 50% chance of that shot being redirected, the deflect should have instead always ended up redirecting to someone else. Didn't end up mattering, but I think that makes more sense.

Nexus usually doesn't redirect kills, so I gave you the Lucky modifier to give you a boost though! Plus, you already had a limited unkillable on your team.

[Aristophanes]

And I lied. The

BP

Treestump

was one-shot as well.

Ftfy

[Reasonably Rational]

@Mastin

- Please quote the post and explain exactly how you were certain our slot was scum from a post by Cerb on the first page. I'm setting aside the fact that you expressed the same certainty about at least one other slot and were wrong, as I'm sure you'll have some excuse for why you were really right. It had better be one hell of an explanation since you went so far as to lie and claim masons to try and get us lynched. (You might also explain why you no longer were so sure when we died). Seriously expecting a substantive response to this.

@Yume

- REALLY well played game. It wasn't

strictly

optimal there at the end, since you had fairly strong evidence that RR was town from the test thing you did, but you KNEW that one of {Shiro, RR} was scum, and so with the evidence that you had you should have gone shiro today and then RR tomorrow, to be most optimal. Either way, good job taking charge and not letting people walk all over you. Well done.


@Ari - Who the hell approved this setup? When there are so many conftown and so much protection that we ended up choosing to run a gambit and have ourselves killed and janitored to try and advance wincon, that kinda speaks for itself.

I'm kind of disappointed Raya had to replace out. Was not really any suspicion there and that was the slot that needed to stay alive. Would have been pretty epic to see this come down to LYLO despite the absurdity of town power compared to what we had.

---

We had the following:

1.) 50/50 re-direction on a kill shot on our slot, randomly redirected (which required us to camp the thread for daystart the day we showed up dead; I nearly sent Ari hate mail over how late the day started because one of us had to be here to explain the kill and "come clean" with the IC claim being an attempt to draw fire that we could then re-direct ... would have had to fly by the seat of my pants in explaining why whomever was targeted, but would have been fun. We also were a nexus, but that really had no utility since I always claim neg. utility and had to claim it.

2.) A slot who could kill (auto-janitor until he died) OR roleblock, but not both.

3.) A slot with 1-shot deathproof that expired on day 3.


I'm not sure how that was supposed to stand a chance, but we did our best to make it fun anyway. Hope everyone enjoyed themselves.

~Drixx

[Cerberus v666]

I'm pretty sure we did smooth talk ourselves out of it the entire game in SU2, and mastin just didn't have enough time to read the game to be convinced by all the smooth talking we did.

And sure, maybe. Since nobody else but you was pushing it, maybe he could have pulled it off. That's not relevant though, since you didn't know which option was correct at the time of your decision.

And Drixx retired? I wasn't aware of that. Hmm.

@Varsoon: it's all in the mod pt. Your BP was an automatic treestump instead of death, and your phoenix only worked on town. :p

Pedit: I know aristo! I'm just saying mechanically, the second target of a deflect is still being targeted by something(the deflect) therefore the nexus should still trigger.