Normal 1934: Civilization Mafia Mafia (Endgame)

[Gamma Emerald]

@Math monkey claimed PR.

[Tchill13]

UNVOTE:

I'll decide between Titus and monkey tonight.

[MathBlade]

How much time do you have? Go read the thread again because I'm a town PR role.

So? Role madness normals and scum can have PRs.

If every person claimed PR would you lynch yourself as the only unclaimed player?

I am not claiming PR and not claiming not PR. Your second defense of Monkey is noted.

@Tchill I would add Gamma to the mix. We should be lynching one of Titus and Monkey and don't want to telegraph to scum who you're shooting.

[Gamma Emerald]

How much time do you have? Go read the thread again because I'm a town PR role.

So? Role madness normals and scum can have PRs.

If every person claimed PR would you lynch yourself as the only unclaimed player?

I am not claiming PR and not claiming not PR. Your second defense of Monkey is noted.

@Tchill I would add Gamma to the mix. We should be lynching one of Titus and Monkey and don't want to telegraph to scum who you're shooting.

Why don't you just let him vig from HIS reads for now. Leashing isn't a "do this always" thing.

[Tchill13]

UNVOTE:

I'll decide between Titus and monkey tonight.

I was talking about voting to be clear.

[MathBlade]

How much time do you have? Go read the thread again because I'm a town PR role.

So? Role madness normals and scum can have PRs.

If every person claimed PR would you lynch yourself as the only unclaimed player?

I am not claiming PR and not claiming not PR. Your second defense of Monkey is noted.

@Tchill I would add Gamma to the mix. We should be lynching one of Titus and Monkey and don't want to telegraph to scum who you're shooting.

Why don't you just let him vig from HIS reads for now. Leashing isn't a "do this always" thing.

Oh I was letting tchill do his own thing.

I said "WOULD".

I am anti leash vigs.

However if a pool is given should always contain st least three.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, the way monkey claimed PR is fairly natural so I think it's real.
Plus, you seem to be implying you scumread me. Why is that? If not, why suggest me?

[MathBlade]

Also, the way monkey claimed PR is fairly natural so I think it's real.
Plus, you seem to be implying you scumread me. Why is that? If not, why suggest me?

1) No. I don't think it was. And even if it was natural doesn't make him Town. This an attempt to humanize scum. Emotions and "natural" aren't the way to read people. Scum can be natural and Town can be weird. It's about assessing the belief behind the posts.

2) I suspect you because you're defending obvScum monkey yet not providing any content or suggesting an alternate so we move towards a lynch. You have posts use them. Anyone not campaigning for someone to eat rope with this little time gets a huge FoS.

Time is a factor people. Come on and vote and consolidate people.

I gotta go grocery shopping. Need foods.

[Dark Horse]

Monkey's attack on nancy feels way too muhc like him following math's initial read and him trying to stir the pot between nancy and math. Lynch him already.

[Drixx]

I concur that Monkey looks super opportunistic sliding in there and trying to be subtle about directing the lynch. Gamma is either playing really badly or has a bad case of sittingonthefencitis, which is fatal when it comes to end of day and causes no lynches.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

[Grendel]

Lol, has over half the original roster subbed out at this point?

@Math & Drixx

Excited to get to play with you both. Its been awhile since I'd done anything mafia related with either of you.

Since there is another extension I'll come back in the morning to catch up fully. As of right now I'm happy with Monkey wagon.

[Gamma Emerald]

How about you idiots read the game instead of coming in and slinging mud at people who don't do what you want them to do.

Also, the way monkey claimed PR is fairly natural so I think it's real.
Plus, you seem to be implying you scumread me. Why is that? If not, why suggest me?

1) No. I don't think it was. And even if it was natural doesn't make him Town. This an attempt to humanize scum. Emotions and "natural" aren't the way to read people. Scum can be natural and Town can be weird. It's about assessing the belief behind the posts.

2) I suspect you because you're defending obvScum monkey yet not providing any content or suggesting an alternate so we move towards a lynch. You have posts use them. Anyone not campaigning for someone to eat rope with this little time gets a huge FoS.

Time is a factor people. Come on and vote and consolidate people.

I gotta go grocery shopping. Need foods.

I have been providing content, how about you read the WHOLE game? As for my alternate Titus is what I want most but Drixx is good too, Ginngie is okay, and I can accept anything that isn't Math, Tchill, or Monkey, and will show resistance to GR, nancy, or Grendel.
Also I have posts but NOT a lot. PAY ATTENTION TO THE RULES OF THE GAMES YOU PLAY!

I concur that Monkey looks super opportunistic sliding in there and trying to be subtle about directing the lynch. Gamma is either playing really badly or has a bad case of sittingonthefencitis, which is fatal when it comes to end of day and causes no lynches.

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

Why do you say I'm playing badly? Also how am I fencesitting?

[nancy]

Vote: Titus

Am extremely fucking incapacitated right now and could not play mafia to save my life but I think I'll have time before deadline still to get out thoughts when I'm back on earth

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Titus

[Tchill13]

VOTE: Titus

[MathBlade]

Interesting Ginngie nancy and Tchill why Titus over monkey who just had a wagon going?

VOTE: Titus

L-1

[humaneatingmonkey]

I'm willing to hammer but also I got out of bed and I want to address the suspicions regarding my slot.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Titus you need to claim. I'm just gonna go have breakfast.

[Drixx]

I really don't like how hard it was to move a wagon on humaneatingmonkey, especially in a game where there was already a no lynch and the deadline is so close. I'm even more weirded out by how fast the Titus wagon is stacking up.

Like ... I evaluated Assemblerotws and in terms of content, what he said early on in the game lines up with what actually happened. The only questionable thing I see from him is the assertion he would have drawn a Vig shot and thus a vig claim had to be false. I don't think any vig would have vigged him based upon his ISO to that point. There wasn't a lot there, but what was there doesn't look like scum trying to stay just above the lurker level or anything. Frankly the worst of his posts is the personal attack on Robbnva, and it wasn't even much of one, AND Robbnva plays very differently than most players. It's actually an astute observation disguised as a snide commentary about Robb's level of play.

And then we have Titus who replaced in and has produced jack shit, but Titus has also been busy as all get out with her job. Like to the point that we haven't even worked on a game we're designing together for weeks and weeks.

I see no reason to rope this slot, and the difficulty of getting a wagon on humaneatingmonkey, where there's actually some scummy behavior to suggest he's scum, compared to the way the Titus wagon just breezed its way in the space of a few hours. I can't believe NOBODY else thinks there is something wrong here.

[Ginngie]

I see that you see no reason, still tho, vote it because it's scummy not to compromise

[MathBlade]

I really don't like how hard it was to move a wagon on humaneatingmonkey, especially in a game where there was already a no lynch and the deadline is so close. I'm even more weirded out by how fast the Titus wagon is stacking up.

Like ... I evaluated Assemblerotws and in terms of content, what he said early on in the game lines up with what actually happened. The only questionable thing I see from him is the assertion he would have drawn a Vig shot and thus a vig claim had to be false. I don't think any vig would have vigged him based upon his ISO to that point. There wasn't a lot there, but what was there doesn't look like scum trying to stay just above the lurker level or anything. Frankly the worst of his posts is the personal attack on Robbnva, and it wasn't even much of one, AND Robbnva plays very differently than most players. It's actually an astute observation disguised as a snide commentary about Robb's level of play.

And then we have Titus who replaced in and has produced jack shit, but Titus has also been busy as all get out with her job. Like to the point that we haven't even worked on a game we're designing together for weeks and weeks.

I see no reason to rope this slot, and the difficulty of getting a wagon on humaneatingmonkey, where there's actually some scummy behavior to suggest he's scum, compared to the way the Titus wagon just breezed its way in the space of a few hours. I can't believe NOBODY else thinks there is something wrong here.

Uhmm Drixx I asked why already? Like saying nobody is wrong I agree. If I die tonight serve my revenge cold on monkey.

[Drixx]

I see that you see no reason, still tho, vote it because it's scummy not to compromise

I'm not going to hammer before Titus can even say anything, and since the person we

should

be lynching has already given intent to hammer, I only need to be around near deadline just in case in order to ensure we don't have consecutive no lynches. I'm not unreasonable in that way. We have to lynch and if I can't persuade you by pointing out why the Titus slot has no reason to be lynched and pointing out why the other slot does, then that's my failing, isn't it?

I mean... I think I made a pretty compelling case that there's literally NO reason to lynch Titus and in fact if I had to give a read on the slot I'd say it's slightly town because of the early posts which were on point and don't appear to be scum narrative bullshit.

I'll be sure to be around near deadline just in case for some reason I have to ensure we actually lynch today, but that doesn't obligate me to stop trying to persuade you guys that it's the wrong lynch. Please go take a look at the things I pointed out and see if you don't agree with me.

[Gamma Emerald]

My play so far would have drawn a vigkill, I now realize. If TChill did not shoot me, I highly doubt his claim.
VOTE: TChill

Looking back to try to counter Drixx, my reason for suspecting this has changed. It is now: why didn't he try AT ALL to improve his play after this? I think it was just fake posturing and piling on to a mislynch. However, I don't think he would have noted this himself so possibly pointing to daytalk?
As for why not monkey, he claimed PR with an obvious progression of thought to it, and I also liked his earnest early desire for action.

[RadiantCowbells]

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