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[sub4hire]

let's lynch dany before he is replaced

TOO LATE!!!

[sub4hire]

Torque is my top town

[sub4hire]

Who's alt?

I've never had an account here before. Also, the color scheme is burning my eyes, is there any way to change it?

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Unless I signed up for one forever ago and forgot about it, then no, it's not BS. Unless you're saying that the color scheme is burning my eyes is BS, then yeah, it's not actually burning my eyes, but I'd rather change it

[sub4hire]

Okay, this silver one is much better. Also, looked up all possible aliases that I have used in the past and none of them are in the user database, so nope, never played here and never had an account here.

[sub4hire]

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, would you like to converse with me? I'd love to gather some reads beyond torque = town

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actually, i rescind my torque town read. not fully, but not as strong as I was making it out to be before

[sub4hire]

I'm through post 12 of Michael's ISO and it seems that Robb, FluffyRabbit (I think this person was replaced but I don't remember by whom) and Alchemist are all spewed town. CD was spewed town too, but I believe that person's deaded.

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Tough to really read into his posts given that he was already being heavily voted when he joined the thread and then got busted for claiming someone's role, but I think those spew reads are correct. I think he might actually be calling his mafia buddy, awesome, mafia because it seems like he starts talking about it more and trying to really drive home the point after he realizes he's basically done for.

I think LUV and awesome would be where I start looking today, but will read them first to verify my suspicions.

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tchill are you on? I can get behind voting for Dany's slot.

May I inquire why you feel this way? Is it because I didn't go into detail about why I scumread you yet I still mention your name? Seems a bit OMGUSy to me

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Also, why are you appealing to tchill? You should be appealing to robb, alchemist and carcalilly.

*****LUV and tchill are never maf/maf*******

[sub4hire]

tchill are you on? I can get behind voting for Dany's slot.

May I inquire why you feel this way? Is it because I didn't go into detail about why I scumread you yet I still mention your name? Seems a bit OMGUSy to me

Not being as confident as Torque being town feels fake.

Suspicions feel like bull as well.

You don't ask me why I was confident on torque. You don't ask me what changed my mind, yet you have already drawn that conclusion that the opinions are manufactured? That doesn't seem like a town who wants to discern my alignment. That sounds like someone who already has their mind made up about me.

Also, why are you appealing to tchill? You should be appealing to robb, alchemist and carcalilly.

*****LUV and tchill are never maf/maf*******

Why should I be appealing to them?

You should be appealing to them because I just explained to you that two of them seem to be spewed by Michael and all 3 of them voted for Michael before Michael was a runaway wagon (vote 1, 4, and 5 if my memory serves me correctly).

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There's no reason to declare Torque as town and then express doubt afterwards here.

Step 1) See that torque randomly shot a townie
Step 2) Decide that it's probably more townie of torque to do that so brazenly
Step 3) Go back and see that a mafia was lynched d1 and torque was not voting for said mafia
Step 4) Pull back my strong town read on Torque

Is that logic that you can follow? I know you don't actually care since, as I pointed out, you weren't actually trying to discern my alignment or figure out why I felt the way I felt - so that breakdown is for the townies who actually care.

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I didn't read any of the reactions to the shot other than seeing a few people vote torque instantly. That also added to my thinking that torque was townie - forgot about that one.

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What'd I do then? Please tell me, cause I'm pretty sure that I did exactly what I said I did. You seem to know better though.

So Mafia sub4hire looks at all the events that happened, tries to figure out why a random town died during d2. Reads up around that. Sees that torque shot the deceased. Sees a bunch of people instantly call torque mafia for it. Thinks *hmmm, torque probably town*. Posts about it. Goes back to reviewing what happened this game from the major events. Sees a mafia was lynched. Sees Torque not on the lynched mafia. Rescinds hard town on torque.

And you think I did that as mafia knowing that torque is confirmed town?

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Am I lying about reading the thread? Or am I just mafia who cares that little that he only read snippets and is just making up reads and then backtracking explanations? Cause part of that is definitely true

i just read snippets

in before i screwed up the bcc code

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I mean, you explained your thinking regarding the reading around what occurred so I backed off. And I'm not concerned about you per say, but I'm definitely concerned about being read correctly. Every townsperson should be.

As for who my alt is, I assure you that I have no accounts on this site other than this one.

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Can you please explain to me why you're specifically pandering to TChill about going after me? Did TChill want to lynch my predecessor or something?

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You're talking about a bunch of stuff that really doesn't matter and really doesn't have anything to do with my alignment. You'll find out after the game is over that you're wrong about me being an alt. I don't even know why you care that much. Even if I were an alt, it wouldn't change the fact that I'm a townie this game.

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Can you please explain to me why you're specifically pandering to TChill about going after me? Did TChill want to lynch my predecessor or something?

Do you scum read tchill?

I don't think I've read a single post by TChill.

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You're talking about a bunch of stuff that really doesn't matter and really doesn't have anything to do with my alignment. You'll find out after the game is over that you're wrong about me being an alt. I don't even know why you care that much. Even if I were an alt, it wouldn't change the fact that I'm a townie this game.

It matters to me because it will help me read you.

Well I'm either lying and don't want you to know who I am, or I'm telling the truth and you don't know me. Either way you're going to have to figure out another way to read me besides meta.

Can you please explain to me why you're specifically pandering to TChill about going after me? Did TChill want to lynch my predecessor or something?

Do you scum read tchill?

I don't think I've read a single post by TChill.

So why does it matter that I'm pandering to him?

Because there are people who you should probably be reading more town based off of vote logic than TChill, so you singling him out just doesn't JIVE.

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That's fine. What happens when they come back and tell you that I don't have any alts here - will you finally be able to move on and read me as an unfamiliar face or will you start inquiring about my name on other sites?

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Also, your assertion that I'm incorrect in my vote analysis is laughable.

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I'm not a she?

You're trying to tell me that a bunch of mafia randomly bussed their partner on d1? I'm unfamiliar with the way you do things here on mafiascum, but there's definitely information to be garnered from votes on ALL DAYS, especially on d1 when you get mafia lynched.

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I don't know what LUV's play is with lying about me having a main

Clearly we disagree on voting analysis. Guess we can see once everything is revealed whether I'm right or not.

And you're right - I have not analyzed the context of the votes, which is definitely something I should look into. I just didn't feel like reading through the thread yet to do that analysis and just based it off of a combination of my perception of Michael spew and added on the first person who was on the wagon.

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That's swell. Can anyone explain why they lean scum on me? I'd love to know so that I can debunk that poor read. So far the reasoning has been:

LUV: You posted without reading
Everyone else: he just is

Given that I know you're wrong and that some of you have to be villagers, this doesn't make me very happy when I'm certain that I'm town and I'm also certain that people are overlooking my sound logic when giving their thoughts on how I'm scum

[sub4hire]

In addition to giving me a way to work with you in explaining why I'm town, explaining why you think I'm scum will help others decipher whether your rationale for lynching me was valid once I am revealed to be town, should it come to that.

[sub4hire]

Can someone unvote zach. I am doing a readthrough right now and taking notes and would like to get it all out there before we move to lynch someone.

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At least that's what ticked me off
But we lynch Zach today

is there a preferable word that you use here other than town?

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Post #6 - Carcalilly provides a random scum team. I think this in and of itself is towny. Add on the fact that I believe that all 3 of these people are town, I think that it would be just way too brazen for mafia

Post#7 - I am not a fan of posts talking about trying out a different style. I see this as a way for mafia to justify playing differently should they be caught. I mentioned earlier that Robb seems to be spewed town by Michael, but this is something to keep in mind

Post#16 - Zach says some really convoluted stuff that is probably meta related to lilly, but it sounds very awkwardly phrased, however his response to Robb questioning his vote is pretty townie.

Post#26 - LUV kinda sorta dumb telling (to be honest i don't know what the setup is or what possible roles are/could be). No prior experience so don't know whether this is something that he would do as mafia

Post#29 - Do not like awesome5000's intro post "i'll try to play better this game than in the past." Very forced

Post#31 - Like LUV's post about "mod is a cool dude." Don't think that's the explanation he gives if he were lying about not knowing the setup.

Post#36 - I don't know who melas is, but melas and acid not maf/maf ------ looks like it's awesome and acid = villyr. got it

Post#47 - more confirmation to me that LUV is town for his gif

Post#49 - Decent response from alchemist re: carcalilly's rng post.

Post#50 - Acid prolly the mafia out of acid/awesome. Chance I'm wrong about the "HEY MELAS" thing. Maybe it was fake. Prolly disregard point about Post#36

Post#51 - Awesome not trying to take villa cred is scummy

Post#62 - Liking Alch more and more

Post#65 - Not sure Zach as mafia calls out 3 towns in alch/whymafia/uzi as mafa, so maybe zach is townier by a little?

Post#73 - fluffyrabbit says alch more likely scum than zach. would be something to think about but I'm pretty sure fluffy = watcher so this shouldn't matter regarding cop-hunting

Post#75 - This is a vote count. It appears that fluffyrabbit is 2 from maj with voters being Torque, Carcalilly, Robb, acid and syndesis (michael). If I were to guess, there are 2 mafia on this right now and 1 mafia off of it.

Post#83 - I like how TChill keeps his chill about getting voted in RVS without questioning people about their vote and just assuming it's not serious. +town points

Post#90 - Don't like how acid tries to show Robb he doesn't give a damn by posting a reads list. I think it's more of a mafia mindset than a town one.

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UNVOTE:

hurry up

There are 96 pages and I'm through the first 4 (and the last 4). I'm simultaneously reading and watching tennis and soon football. If you really want to hammer Zach now that's fine, but i have no opinion on him because I have just started reading the thread and would really like to be more informed and give my opinions before we get to night phase. Given that there are 7 more days available to use, I don't see what the huge rush is.

Spoiler:

in before you guys lynch him, he flips scum and it looks bad for me for trying to stall

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You had time though.

No excuse really.

lol. I subbed in last night and then went to bed after doing a quick catch up and interacting a bit and talking way too much about how I'm not an alt account. Then I went to bed, woke up at 730am and went to work. Got home, ate dinner, and started posting/reading. Not sure when exactly you expected me to have time. It was literally 11pm when I subbed in -.-

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Dunno I might be feelin this one


I liked my Revy avi tho










jeez can we at least establish my counterwagon

how about on sub4hire

If you want to establish a counterwagon that you want me to take seriously, choose someone who could be scum

[sub4hire]

I'm kinda glad I didn't spend all night reading like I was planning to today, but my first 4 pages basically had the game locked lol

ggwp everyone!

[sub4hire]

lol still dont understand that. im just glad my hard town reads, lil uzi and robbvna, were correct.

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Why did I get scumrread btw?

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Why did I get scumrread btw?

Who did you replace?

uhh danny? idk -.-

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Thanks for the invite Mulch