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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:14 am

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VOTE: humaneatingmonkey
Don't eat me plz
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:14 am

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Hardclaiming miller
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:16 am

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Not sure if claiming miller this early was the correct play but YOLO
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Post Post #59 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:43 am

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I have never seen RVS fade so quickly xD
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Post Post #62 (isolation #4) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 31, Robbnva wrote:Millers I don't think are used much and I think I've seen enough miller fake claims to not trust them. Plus despite the in incorrect wiki, proper play imo is to not actually claim.
Rob so you're saying my claim is BS bc of your experience with miller claims ... so it's a meta read.
In post 34, Robbnva wrote:1. Meta is garbage
2. From what I can tell mulch has only seen whymafia one game. So That's not enough to use garbage meta
I've played like at least 5 games with mulch and if meta is garbage why are you using it to justify yourself?
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Post Post #63 (isolation #5) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:48 am

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In post 37, Robbnva wrote:Well hopefully you can't avoid it cause I'm going to make sure he's lynched
So you've decided to death tunnel me? I'm fine with that, but at least keep an open mind over others. I understand that you believe this is scum, but why wouldn't town!me claim?
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Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:55 am

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In post 41, humaneatingmonkey wrote:EDIT by post.

Tornaga's right. This will be two long weeks. I'm not going to lynch him today or next week, but I want to place a stagnating L-2 wagon on him until before deadline. If he's scum, people will try to protect the slot as much as possible. If he's town, no problem.

Toranaga's not looking at the big picture. If there's a Miller, there's possibly an investigative element to the game. If we can't flip it for that investigative role today, we will never confirm the slot. Scum will always want to keep this guy alive because it throws off that investigative role. Eventually, we'll be in LYLO and we will have this huge obstacle in the way. Better lynch him now that deal with that damage later.
Thor665 wrote:You mean like you did?
SURE. GO WITH THAT. THE PERSON WHO PUSHES FOR HIS LYNCH ASAP IS THE PARTNER. lmao
IDK but this post is rubbing me the wrong way.
A) Leaving me at an L-2 wagon decreases the chance of his scum buddy getting pressured
B) Could leave a deadline scramble
C) It prevents us from doing any form of wagon analysis. It's easy for scum to just sit on me.
I think monkey is scum

And then I'm confused by the second part. It seems weird considering the first part. It's like he wants to push me, be wants to seem flexible for town cred. Then same with the thing with the invest. I claimed so it doesn't throw off the invest. How will it throw it off? Seems like a lazy way to justify a lynch. Then so what if it doesn't confirm me? Nobody is fully confirmed until their flip, why does it apply to me instead of a VT that doesn't get invested.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #7) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:56 am

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If you guys suspect me fine. But what makes me any different from a VT that never gets invested. Judge me on my words not on my role. Stop being lazy
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Post Post #67 (isolation #8) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:58 am

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Why does everyone leave when I post :/
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Post Post #86 (isolation #9) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:56 pm

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Me
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Post Post #92 (isolation #10) » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:47 pm

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Hi skitter
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Post Post #139 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:14 am

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VOTE: havo
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Post Post #140 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:14 am

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Don't like his defense
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Post Post #143 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:03 am

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In post 137, Havo wrote:
In post 136, Toranaga wrote:you just didn't understand my post :P

=rand is at 75% villager in a 13er
<rand is whatever is lower than 75% and >rand is whatever is higher than 75%

50% is pretty low and a good d1 lynch.
So in less than 24 hours, based off of introductory posts you determined

I was 50 to 60 % likely town and deserving of your vote to lynch.

Got it.
This doesn't seem natural. It makes me think of "WTF I'm caught for BS reasons"
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Post Post #177 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:55 pm

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Is the start of a new age of le mulch
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Post Post #179 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:57 pm

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this*

And only differences in my reads = move Toranga to lean town
Blue to null
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Post Post #186 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:24 pm

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Welcome tacos
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Post Post #188 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:26 pm

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In post 184, MariaR wrote:
In post 183, Havo wrote:I honest to God can't believe how people are spitting out reads, serious reads, 18 hours into the game. If anyone wants to post reads fine, have at it, but don't accuse me of being scum just because I haven't posted a facking read list by hour 36.
FUCKING PREACH
Just because it's been little time doesn't make it hard to have reads. You and Havo clearly know what's going on, yet you guys have refrained from doing much. There's enough content for reads. We didn't even have a page of RVS for gods sake.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 187, MariaR wrote:Like honest to god you know how easy it is to fake a god dam reads list if you want to it's not that hard at all. Being sr for lack of reads is fucking stupid because coming up with genuine reads for some people takes time
But from what I remember, you and Havo haven't even attempted to sort people. At lleast ask questions on stances.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 189, Mulch wrote:
In post 183, Havo wrote:If anyone wants to post reads fine, have at it, but don't accuse me of being scum just because I haven't posted a facking read list by hour 36.
And the claim's not bullshit.

That's not why I scumread you, and the claim is bullshit 101. You heavily softed power role, I want you to claim. Now.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:28 pm

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But the reads list thing does influence my read
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Post Post #253 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:37 pm

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I don't get why everyone is making a big deal out of me not being confirmed in LYLO. That's kinda the point of LYLO .... if everyone was confirmed then town would win ....
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Post Post #254 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:38 pm

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VOTE: Tacos
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Post Post #255 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:40 pm

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Skimmed most longish posts (basically only fully read Tacos)
Maria seems better from what I've briefly seen. I have a question. What if Havo is scum and his buddies were simply inactive? His wagon was basically a flash wagon after all ....
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Post Post #258 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:06 pm

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In post 257, Havo wrote:
In post 249, Chip Butty wrote:About the Havo soft: If he really is a PR then drawing massive attention to himself by obstinately refusing to provide reads and doing all that complaining was a terrible way to play it. Also the alleged soft was so obvious he might as well have just hardclaimed a big PR. I agree we need to see a fullclaim at this point.
No I haven't played it terrible.

HOW THE FUCK CAN I PROVIDE READS WHEN I DONT HAVE ANY WORTH POSTING YET?!?!?!?!?!

What can't you people understand about that???

If I provide a read list it will come across as forced and not genuine. BECAUSE IT WONT BE!!!!!!!

Why are you not worried about read lists from other posters????????
there's been plenty of content. Your reactions to votes sucked, which is why I'm scum reading you. You havent questioned anyone either, all you've been focused on is repeated the thing I just quoted.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:17 pm

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Riveting way to convince me. Havo, you haven't found anything worth getting more detail on from anyone?
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Post Post #409 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:08 am

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Don't have time to reply to much
But uh
A loyal cop doesn't make sense cause then if he invests me he gets a scum result, but he's loyal so he'd know I'm town
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Post Post #498 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:10 pm

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In post 497, Havo wrote:
In post 484, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Don't you think that if the Miller is part of your "faction" (alignment. it's weird that the word faction would be used here.), you'll still get regular results regardless? It's a Miller. Now do you see why your claim does not make sense?
No, I still get a guilty on the Miller. Would show up as Not Town.

It's like I said earlier. The Miller is the fly in the ointment. Otherwise I would have just been a reg Cop.

I got confirmation on that.
But ... that makes me town because if I was scum you'd get no result ...
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Post Post #503 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:39 pm

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In post 499, Havo wrote:
In post 498, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 497, Havo wrote:
In post 484, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Don't you think that if the Miller is part of your "faction" (alignment. it's weird that the word faction would be used here.), you'll still get regular results regardless? It's a Miller. Now do you see why your claim does not make sense?
No, I still get a guilty on the Miller. Would show up as Not Town.

It's like I said earlier. The Miller is the fly in the ointment. Otherwise I would have just been a reg Cop.

I got confirmation on that.
But ... that makes me town because if I was scum you'd get no result ...
Yes as long as U R a town Miller.
But why would there be a town miller then
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Post Post #571 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:04 pm

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VOTE: maria
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Post Post #574 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 567, Mulch wrote:[Mulch, Whymafia]
I'm having PTSD to Ircher's game now cficvuvycurefv
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Post Post #578 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:06 pm

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In post 577, Mulch wrote:
In post 574, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 567, Mulch wrote:[Mulch, Whymafia]
I'm having PTSD to Ircher's game now cficvuvycurefv
You know I know you woulden't claim miller as scum. I think we are two town here.
that doesn't make you not scum ;-;
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Post Post #643 (isolation #32) » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:21 am

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Tacos please respond to mis
Anyone feeling a taco wagon?
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Post Post #651 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:31 am

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I oppose a skitter lynch
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Post Post #655 (isolation #34) » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:49 am

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Blue is an excellent vig/cop
He's either an obnoxious town troll or a scum who hopes to be too trolly to not be lynched
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Post Post #739 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:33 am

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I think blue is more like a deadline/compromise lynch
Until around deadline, I am ignoring his posts.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:38 am

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In post 703, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 641, Misère wrote:UNVOTE: Havo
I read ahead just enough to see that Havo finally hard-claimed. In the absence of a second cop claim I have to at least provisionally accept him as town.

@MOD
Speaking entirely hypothetically, if a Loyal Cop were to target a Town Miller, what sort of result would they get? (Specifically, would it be identical to the result for targeting a Mafia Goon?)

Spoiler: Wall of catch-up reactions, pp. 7-14
In post 151, Chip Butty wrote:Sorry, but someone has to go and there isn't any solid evidence on D1. Not sure there is any value in dragging D1 out to a two week talkfest. We just have to go on people's reactions, and yours have been anything but reassuring.
This seems to be written from the perspective that you don't actually believe Havo is scum.
In post 157, Havo wrote:This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse. But this time town could literally NOT do worse. Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
If your 'soft' is this hard, you might as well just say "HI I'M A COP" right here.
In post 164, MariaR wrote:Hello? Why do we have Havo at L-1 7 pages in when there clearly softing PR. Get off this wagon the fact it picked up so fast with no counter wagon is red flags all over.
If you think Havo is scum we can come back later. Let's vote the band wagon jumper.

VOTE: Chip
Good vote. Bad post re. Havo. It's not hard to see why Havo was where he was at this point, and the heavy softing had only just started.

Mulch's is good analysis, and he follows up with a readlist. I'm calling him town.
In post 187, MariaR wrote:Like honest to god you know how easy it is to fake a god dam reads list if you want to it's not that hard at all. Being sr for lack of reads is fucking stupid because coming up with genuine reads for some people takes time
Maria's best post so far. It comes from a townish mindset and one I understand.
In post 202, MariaR wrote:I know but it's still the point that triggers me the most. I understand where Havo is coming from. I don't think a wagon magically shows up on scum 7 papges in and it's super sub optimal to lynch him here because if it's a town pr we get barely any info and we're in an awful spot we let mafia handle him or come back to him later but not today.
  1. Off-topic, please don't use mental health terminology this lightly. It makes it harder for PTSD sufferers to be taken seriously.
  2. If you look at my one other game played under this account, the very first wagon in the game was on scum. In fact this worked in their favor because whenever anyone tried to push him again they got a big "I can't believe you're still on that, that was at the beginning of the game" reaction, even though no one ever answered the actual points against him. Saying someone is less likely scum if they were wagoned early is just empirically false.
In post 214, Mulch wrote:This sentence basically sums up EXACTLY why towns on mafiascum are straight trash. "-If almost everyone agrees on a wagon you're most likely wrong" what the fuCK? This is what a town should STRIVE FOR. THis is the END GOAL. The fact that there is unity is GOOD. There are THREE scum here, and 12 town. That means a VAST MAJORITY of town are agreeing. And scum are very very likely to busy day 1. Even if there is a scum snuck in there, it means nothing.Of COURSE they aren't going to make that arguement, no scum is shit enough to do that. And no, wagons on scum are very very fluid day one and yes, stick. These ideas are so wrong. So so wrong
QFT.
In post 220, Mulch wrote:Alright. I disagree with your points entirely and it's making me angry but I'm more voting you for and
These are the correct reasons to vote Maria.
In post 232, Sergtacos wrote:Strong town: none
lean town: Robbnva
Null: None
lean scum: Monkey, whymafia, mulch, tor
Strong scum:

So far.
Severely incomplete read list. Opinions are good, you should have them.
In post 249, Chip Butty wrote:About the Havo soft: If he really is a PR then drawing massive attention to himself by obstinately refusing to provide reads and doing all that complaining was a terrible way to play it. Also the alleged soft was so obvious he might as well have just hardclaimed a big PR. I agree we need to see a fullclaim at this point.
Agreed with this.
In post 237, Sergtacos wrote:If he flips miller then we waste our day. If he flips scum, then that would be beneficial. How about we analyze and bring in discussions before we actually proceed with this lynch?
In post 240, Sergtacos wrote:If whymafia is scum and if you're scum, you're bussing xD so i find it hypocritical if you two are scums xD
In post 244, Sergtacos wrote:Who lynched? Whymafia? But if he ends up flipping miller then what? Thats my biggest concern here. I mean, if i was miller i would hard claim D1 too in the beginning as soon as possible.
In post 248, Sergtacos wrote:Honestly this gives me a headache because monkey is right though. If there's a lynch or lose situation and lets say whymafia is actually town and survives until lynch or lose, he might get lynched at the lynch or lose phase.
In post 251, Sergtacos wrote:But if whymafia is actually scum, we're falling for his fake claim, however if he's town, im pretty sure scums would want to keep him alive until lynch or lose.
Fluff, fluff, fluff, fluff, fluff. "If we lynch WhyMafia and he's town, that would be bad. But if we lynch him and he's scum, that would be good." Thanks for that keen insight.
In post 324, Chip Butty wrote:Man, that was epic! If you guys are scum v scum, my hat is off to you.
I literally thought exactly this right before reading this post.
In post 329, Thor665 wrote:
In post 82, Mulch wrote:
In post 80, Virtuoso wrote:
Robbnva has requested replacement. Searching now.
I hate to say it but I think that in all likelihood a chance of a town win just went up lol
By saying this, are you claiming Robbnva's slot as town?
Why? Like, he literally has no town vibes worth speaking of, and you're cracking a joke that requires him to be town - what's up?
This is an interesting observation. I can't decide whether to take it seriously as a potential slip, though.
In post 337, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 157, Havo wrote:L - 1.

This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse.

But this time town could literally NOT do worse.

Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
PR slip?
More hard-hitting analysis from Sergtacos.
In post 340, Havo wrote:***** My first Read List *****

I'm heavily Scum reading the guys STILL voting me after I have claimed a town PR.

This action alone, a day and a half into a 14 day 1, is scummier than anything I'm

Being voted for in the first place.
Lazy. And what's the point of softing if you're going to then say "I HAVE A TOWN PR" in black and white? It won't save you from being shot, all it will do is make it harder for town to make up their minds.
In post 342, Sergtacos wrote:
In post 169, humaneatingmonkey wrote: Skitter
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"@HEM: Do you think WM is scum? Or are you pushing a policy lynch on him? Similarly, do you actually want to lynch him today?"
Not overwhelmingly. It's a policy lynch, technically. I want him out so we don't have to deal with the slot later, and then analyze based on what happened to the slot later. I think it's because scum would advocate for his survival to the point of LYLO, where it would be too late.
This tone and your statement on Whymafia sounds like whymafia is actually a miller and you're scum. You're back and forth on my reads. I can understand why we should policy lynch him however I do get a sense that whymafia is town because his interaction from all this and this post. This post is giving me scummy vibes. It feels like to me YOU know which is why I won't be surprised if whymafia flips miller so you would get "Credit." that won't work on me.
First good post from Sergtacos.
In post 347, Sergtacos wrote:Funny how you want a hard claim from him and not from everyone else? we might as well say fuck it and announce all of our roles.

So far, Whymafia= Miller

Anyone else want to hardclaim?

See how stupid this is? Why are you so demanding for Havo's full claim when there's still 2 weeks ahead of us for D1! Like I would expect a hard claim in D3 and/or D4, maybe D2 depending on the situation but wth.
This post, on the other hand, is willful misrepping. There is a huge difference between wanting a really scummy player who is the top lynch candidate and has already softed power to claim, and wanting everyone to claim. Given that it leads into a vote for Mulch, this looks like Serg has decided to scumread Mulch and is looking for a reason.
In post 348, Chip Butty wrote:It's simple. Havo said that lynching him is the worst thing town can do. That is, he is claiming the strongest PR. So he is already going to be a prime target for NK. So there is no greater risk to town if he actually specifies what he is claiming.

Atm he has made it clear he is seeking the protection from lynching that a claim usually affords, while dodging the risk of being cc-ed that comes with a specific claim.

Thus a specific claim has upside for town and no downside. Leaving things as they stand just opens up the possibility of letting scum.havo cruise. Downside for town with no upside.
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Havo's obstinacy is so self-defeating that he may actually be town. Sergtacos looks bad. MariaR looks bad. Mulch looks great. Chip Butty is making a lot of sense but, as of page 14, I'm not committed to saying that makes him town.
Looks like I'm looking for a reason? Hm apparently you didn't really read the posts carefully. I gave my reasons why Mulch could be scum. I made a strong case against him yet you disagree, why because I'm looking for a reason? The reason is in the posts, he tried to get Havo to hardclaim, which typically town doesn't do that because they don't want their god damn power role support players be killed. How is this hard to understand? I swear you people are dumb for wanting to get a hard claim in D1, fucking D1. A COP. We're gonna lose a fucking cop N1. How do you guys feel about that? Think about it, jesus christ.
This is such a lazy way to scum read mulch. It's a theory difference. You're making a reason to scum read him and it feels fabricated. If you're going to blatantly soft, you're gonna get NK'ed anyway
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Post Post #742 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:40 am

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In post 740, Havo wrote:
In post 739, WhyMafia wrote:I think blue is more like a deadline/compromise lynch
Until around deadline, I am ignoring his posts.
Yes, everyone ignores BBT because there's always a more scummier target, then of course BBT survives the night because if he is town, no way scum is gonna kill him off.

Then before you know it, it's LYLO and guess who's making the game deciding decision?

I honestly don't know if this site is gonna work for me. There's a good reason for policy lynches, it make take a little time, but they eventually start culling this kinda shit.
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if we cannot decide on a lynch, or we're getting close to deadline, we should just lynch him.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #38) » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:25 pm

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Maria what do you think of your wagon
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Post Post #858 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:12 am

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In post 802, Toranaga wrote:
In post 768, skitter30 wrote:
Can you explain why you're townreading Mulch's townlean on WM based on meta but are scumreading Fykus's? Like, what's the difference between the two?
those are very different reads! mulch is townreading WM based off of WM not being the type of scum that would FPS a miller claim early! Fykus is saying WM has claimed stuff early before as town, as if that mattered to his miller claim. it seems like a meta read just thrown there with the sole purpose of making his read seem more nuanced. that's why I think his read is scummy.
Wait a second ... I've never played a town PR game with Fykus ....?
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Post Post #859 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:13 am

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In post 803, Toranaga wrote:
In post 154, skitter30 wrote:
In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game. Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads (, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and trying to undermine people's reads on you, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
I don't think skitter is villagery and this reads just agenda driven, trying to get town lynched here

I think maria is kinda villagery fwiw

skitter30
Wouldn't putting someone at L-1 and announcing it put her under the fires if he flipped town though?
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Post Post #860 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:14 am

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VOTE: fykus
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Post Post #971 (isolation #42) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 878, Mulch wrote:I have a game in which he did this but I don't think fykus was in it, let me check.
Which game? I don't remember ever day 1 claiming
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Post Post #972 (isolation #43) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:31 am

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In post 970, Fykus wrote:viewtopic.php?f=55&t=71848

here, check the neighbourhood chat.
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That game. disregard my last post
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Post Post #974 (isolation #44) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 907, Thor665 wrote:
In post 867, Mulch wrote:
In post 850, Thor665 wrote: And you actually haven't described how my read on Skitter is bad
That's you describing your case on him, not disabusing mine.
In post 870, Mulch wrote:So thor, how do we catch you if your scum if you don't act any different?
Hopefully no one ever does. That's the point, isn't it?
In post 904, Virtuoso wrote:VC posted. If everyone can use the vote tag that will make it so much easier for me to see your vote. If I missed any votes, please let me know.
Vote tags are new age and fill me with fear.

Unvote: Skitter
Vote: MariaR


Also

VOTE: MariaR

Just for Virtuoso ;)
Can you remind me why you scum read her?
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Post Post #975 (isolation #45) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 am

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In post 973, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Who's defending MariaR right now?
I town read Maria
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Post Post #976 (isolation #46) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:35 am

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Why is Misere scum, sheep this instead
VOTE: Tacos
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Post Post #979 (isolation #47) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:14 am

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Ok let it be shaken. I didn't remember that I claimed that early in that normal
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Post Post #999 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:12 pm

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In post 991, Fykus wrote:VOTE: bbt

Why dont we just lynch this? They arent/seemingly wont contribute to the game and the only conclusion is that its scum or a useless townie. This will save us an investigation so that we can sort the game easier.

If its scum then goodo, if its a vt no big loss. The only downside i can see is if hes a pr, but honestly youd think hed be trying a bit harder if he was.
this a horrible vote
VOTE: fykus
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:52 pm

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Maria and BBT shouldn't be today's lynch
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #50) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:53 pm

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I prefer tacos/Fykus but I guess ill reread Mulch too
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #51) » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:54 pm

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In post 991, Fykus wrote:VOTE: bbt

Why dont we just lynch this? They arent/seemingly wont contribute to the game and the only conclusion is that its scum or a useless townie. This will save us an investigation so that we can sort the game easier.

If its scum then goodo, if its a vt no big loss. The only downside i can see is if hes a pr, but honestly youd think hed be trying a bit harder if he was.
You literally took the easiest and safest option. This can easily apply to VI and on top of that, your ISO is bare af as far as I can remember
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:03 pm

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Holy mother of fuckery what was that quicklynch
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:04 pm

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In post 1069, Mulch wrote:
@whymafia


Did you get my gift last night?
yes but i have no idea what it does
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:05 pm

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VOTE: fykus
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #55) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:16 pm

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Prodge
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #56) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:17 pm

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Can someone explain why Chip is scum and actually pressure him because it seems like a lot of people are just saying chip is scum without trying to build a wagon
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #57) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:17 pm

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And can someone explain why we can't lynch Fykus
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #58) » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:48 pm

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Fykus's reaction to my vote was horrible. His tone was like "oh fuck off WM"
I feel like as town he'd be behaving differently
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #59) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 1278, Mulch wrote:
In post 1272, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 1248, Mulch wrote:
In post 1247, humaneatingmonkey wrote:WhyMafia as scum wouldn't have predicted that this setup had something that can even remotely validate a Miller claim.
I've seen loyal cops without millers, dude
If you're leading me to a belief that WhyMafia is scum and that he claimed Miller blindly, I will disagree with you and question your motives for it. Especially when you were a staunch supporter back when he claimed.
In post 1249, Mulch wrote:
In post 1247, humaneatingmonkey wrote:What's your read on Fykus
I think null. He hasn't really...posted anything.

....

On the other hand...Miseré has actually done scummy stuff so *shrug*
You call Fykus as someone who
hasn't really posted anything
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when Misere—whose five out of
ten posts
gives off a town vibe—scum. Are you vote parking on the inactive so you look like you're scumhunting when in fact you're not scumhunting at all?

*shrug*
Whymafia is likely town but not because of the existence of a role cop.

Fykus has a history of this as town , and hasn’t actually said anything scummy, while misere actually has done scummy things. What’s this “town vibe” ?
Fykus's posting has been his usual, but his votes and reactions are making me scum read him
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #60) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:44 am

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Mulch where in your ISO did you give your case?
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:12 pm

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In post 1358, Chip Butty wrote:So Toranaga has been caught in a lie, and you're just going to disregard that?
How so?
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Post Post #1671 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:16 pm

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PRODGE I PROMISE ILL BE ACTIVE TOMORROW
Can someone give me a list of important posts? Fine w/ Toranga wagon, not fine w/ Skitter wagon
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:23 pm

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I'm honestly leaning 50/50 on Mulch
Regarding his role, yes I received a fruit last night. I asked mod what it does, but he never answered. I still don't know what the point of my fruit is
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Post Post #1695 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:24 pm

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This latest Tor post makes me feel iffy on Mulch even more
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #65) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 1694, Mulch wrote:
In post 1692, WhyMafia wrote:I'm honestly leaning 50/50 on Mulch
Regarding his role, yes I received a fruit last night. I asked mod what it does, but he never answered. I still don't know what the point of my fruit is
Why the hell would you confirm I'm just a fruit vendor. Holy shit, I could have made it seem like it was better than that, because I'm the "original role"... I could have drawn a nightkill. What are you thinking
Oh ... i thought you full claimed .... everyone seemed to know you were already an item giver
A) You're under suspicion anyway, I doubt you'd be the NK
B) I could've been reaction testing and you just confirmed it
C) I'm sorry for making a mistake
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #66) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:27 pm

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In post 1700, Fykus wrote:VOTE: skitter
In post 1688, Fykus wrote:Everyone shut the fuck up.

Noticed the skitter and misere wagons have both stalled? Gee i wonder why.

Mulch trust me on this. Wait til tomorrow to decide on tor. PLEASE. Lets lynch skitter or misere. Bbt after that. Tor is confirmable. Mulch is confirmed wm is confirmed. We need to get rid of the lylo mislynches now.
This is wrong on so many levels
Nobody is confirmed at all. This is scum
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #67) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:27 pm

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Holy fuck Fykus stop softing
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:28 pm

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That reasoning is horrible Tor
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #69) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:29 pm

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Tor/Fykus is extremely plausible
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #70) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 1719, Toranaga wrote:notice how he doesn't even care that I'm a claimed PR. as he didn't care about havo being one. that's scum. you see chip, that's scum and he doesn't even give a fuck about openwolfing all over you because you're so bad at this you can't see something this obvious.
So what if you're a claimed PR
You're not gonna live anyways. Sure scum can WIFOM you out, but I doubt it cause if town has 2 invests, we're pretty unlikely to have a prot
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #71) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:31 pm

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So we have 3 invests .....
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #72) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:35 pm

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In post 1737, Mulch wrote:Who the fuck has a scum fruit vendor. Have you ever seen this, holy shit. It's NEGATIVE utility for scum
I've seen that
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:53 am

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Holy fuck why is Skitter at L-2
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:54 am

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This may sound stupid but I SR Toranga, Mulch, and Fykus ... which happen to all be PRs
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:54 am

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Least confidence in my Mulch read
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:55 am

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Tacos could swap with Mulch
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:07 am

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Fykus's read progression seems awful. He goes from voting BBT for basically doing nothing & not understanding Maria's wagon before voting her (L-1/Lynch) for her anti-town remarks. For someone who didn't seem to understand the scum reads, he hopped on for a pretty BS reason. His stance on Havo was strange as well. Finally. he blatantly softs for a while, and I feel like his claim is coordinated w/ Toranga.
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:08 am

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I honestly cannot explain Mulch. It's just that some posts really ping me, and his reactions w/ Toranga make me feel like he's hard bussing to get town cred. In regards to Toranga, I don't like his reactions or lack of replying to Mulch's case/the scum reads on him
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:16 am

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In post 1964, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1962, WhyMafia wrote:I honestly cannot explain Mulch. It's just that some posts really ping me, and his reactions w/ Toranga make me feel like he's hard bussing to get town cred. In regards to Toranga, I don't like his reactions or lack of replying to Mulch's case/the scum reads on him
cause zzzzzzzzzzzz that case man. it's boring. thor is an angel to have the patience to reply to that. and LOL if you think me and mulch are SCUM TOGETHER, what level is this you guys are playing with...
I've seen Mulch tunneling his scum buddies :lol:
I find your arrogance disturbing ... You seemed much better D1. This day phase, you seem really ... idk crazy? You're no longer logical, and are just discrediting people
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #80) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:05 pm

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Oh damn I was wrong on skitter
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #81) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:05 pm

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Toranga has my trust for now. On the other hand, I think mulch is a viable lynch
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #82) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:07 pm

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Read this day 1 viewtopic.php?f=23&t=72816
Just skim for my position on day 1's lynch. It happened again :/

I think BBT is pure lynchbait and if we didn't fuck up, would've and should've been invested by now. However, hopefully his replacement does alignments indicative things. I don't have time to explain my Mulch read but it will come
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:08 pm

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In post 2111, Mulch wrote:Bruh
NU UH IM NOT LOCK TOWNING YOU LIKE THE OTHER MINI NORMAL
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #84) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:09 pm

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It could be mulch and tacos???
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 pm

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Hype
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #86) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:11 pm

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In post 2101, Mulch wrote:W/e still not a lynch for today.

For now:

VOTE: HavingFitz
Why fitz
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:11 pm

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Oh wait he replaced misere
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #88) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:16 pm

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In post 2119, Mulch wrote:
In post 2113, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 2111, Mulch wrote:Bruh
NU UH IM NOT LOCK TOWNING YOU LIKE THE OTHER MINI NORMAL
No need to lock town me, but look at my play.
You know that you can look Town as scum
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Post Post #2123 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:19 pm

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I cannot follow you on fitz. I have to wait on lime. I'll re-read monkey
What do you feel on tacos?
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Post Post #2128 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 2124, Mulch wrote:
In post 2123, WhyMafia wrote:I cannot follow you on fitz. I have to wait on lime. I'll re-read monkey
What do you feel on tacos?
Fitz is also part from the Misere read which I'm not repeating for a 10th time. And a lot of them are PoE.

Tacos is very probably town.
I'm not asking you too. I am stating that I don't believe misere is scum
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Post Post #2304 (isolation #91) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:06 am

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VOTE: human
scum
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #92) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:32 am

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I'm sorry, but I'm not having fun in this game at all. I don't have any motivation to keep playing here. It's none of you guys, just the combined player list I guess ..
And I'm not doing town any favors
@mod please replace me
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #93) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:33 am

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Good luck Town
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #94) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:35 am

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One last comment out of observation:
I get the mulch scum reads. But calling him scum over handling Havo isn't right. I agree with what happened to Havo. Havo was gonna get the NK the minute he hardcore softed.
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