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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:13 am

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 149, Havo wrote:
In post 148, Chip Butty wrote:I don't think sarcasm is an adequate defence...sorry...
What's the accusation against me exactly?

That I'm scummy? That I haven't defended my self well enough?
Yeah, those.

Sorry, but someone has to go and there isn't any solid evidence on D1. Not sure there is any value in dragging D1 out to a two week talkfest. We just have to go on people's reactions, and yours have been anything but reassuring.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:32 am

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In post 151, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 149, Havo wrote:
In post 148, Chip Butty wrote:I don't think sarcasm is an adequate defence...sorry...
What's the accusation against me exactly?

That I'm scummy? That I haven't defended my self well enough?
Yeah, those.

Sorry, but someone has to go and there isn't any solid evidence on D1. Not sure there is any value in dragging D1 out to a two week talkfest. We just have to go on people's reactions, and yours have been anything but reassuring.
Why so impatient?

Why are you afraid to "Drag" things out?

I mean we barely what 30 hours in and we have people who have barely even posted but yet I'm the best candidate for a lynch?
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:33 am

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Shutting down discussion is inherently Anti Town play.

Period.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:35 am

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In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game. Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads (, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and trying to undermine people's reads on you, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:37 am

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First of all, obviously I fail to see where I have been scummy.

But just post my scummy remarks and I'll be happy to defend them.

Secondly saying my defense is bad is ridiculous as I don't see anything I have to defend myself for.

I'm at L-2 and no one has yet to post a serious accusation against me.

This wagon on me is terribad. I mean seriously bad.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:39 am

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In post 154, skitter30 wrote:
In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game. Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads (, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and trying to undermine people's reads on you, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
Finally a decent accusation.

I'm not scum hunting. Lol.

Yeah I'm not gonna scum hunt until I have a decent amount of content to read. Just the way I roll.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:40 am

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L - 1.

This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse.

But this time town could literally NOT do worse.

Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:42 am

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In post 153, Havo wrote:Shutting down discussion is inherently Anti Town play.

Period.
Discussion is fine but all you keep saying is it's too early to discuss anything because a few players haven't posted much and too early for reads. What if we all took that approach? We'd be twiddling our thumbs until nightfall. How about anandoning your lofty principles and actually giving some reads, instead of just complaining about how unfair it all is?
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 156, Havo wrote:
In post 154, skitter30 wrote:
In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game.
Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads
(, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and
trying to undermine people's reads on you
, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
Finally a decent accusation.

I'm not scum hunting. Lol.

Yeah I'm not gonna scum hunt until I have a decent amount of content to read. Just the way I roll.
I'm more concerned about the parts that I bolded above. Namely, where you seem to be trying to discredit people's reads.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 154, skitter30 wrote:
In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game. Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads (, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and trying to undermine people's reads on you, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
"I seem rather concerned about defending my self"

BECAUSE I WAS BEING ACCUSED OF NOT DEFENDING MYSELF!!
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 159, skitter30 wrote:
In post 156, Havo wrote:
In post 154, skitter30 wrote:
In post 141, Havo wrote:
In post 140, WhyMafia wrote:Don't like his defense
What's not to like?

The only thing I see that I've actually been accused of is Not Scumhunting.

24 hours into the game. And we've still got a handful of people who has barely posted anything.
The fact that you're 'Not Scumhunting' is precisely the problem.

You have a relatively significant number of posts, but very few of them are advancing the game.
Instead, you're fluffposting and using sarcasm to discredit people's reads
(, 'nice to see I'm in a game with such good players who can develop serious reads less than 24 hours in').

You seem rather concerned about defending yourself and
trying to undermine people's reads on you
, and don't seem that interested in looking for scum.

VOTE: Havo

L-1.
Finally a decent accusation.

I'm not scum hunting. Lol.

Yeah I'm not gonna scum hunt until I have a decent amount of content to read. Just the way I roll.
I'm more concerned about the parts that I bolded above. Namely, where you seem to be trying to discredit people's reads.
Well it's because I know their reads are shat.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:48 am

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In post 158, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 153, Havo wrote:Shutting down discussion is inherently Anti Town play.

Period.
Discussion is fine but all you keep saying is it's too early to discuss anything because a few players haven't posted much and too early for reads. What if we all took that approach? We'd be twiddling our thumbs until nightfall. How about anandoning your lofty principles and actually giving some reads, instead of just complaining about how unfair it all is?
Nope. I said it was too early for Serious reads.

I said the content being laid down was good. Read my ISO. I stated I need content before I can develop reads.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:50 am

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In post 158, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 153, Havo wrote:Shutting down discussion is inherently Anti Town play.

Period.
Discussion is fine but all you keep saying is it's too early to discuss anything because a few players haven't posted much and too early for reads. What if we all took that approach? We'd be twiddling our thumbs until nightfall. How about anandoning your lofty principles and actually giving some reads, instead of just complaining about how unfair it all is?
Yes, forcing out a read list will fix everything I'm sure.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:51 am

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Hello? Why do we have Havo at L-1 7 pages in when there clearly softing PR. Get off this wagon the fact it picked up so fast with no counter wagon is red flags all over.
If you think Havo is scum we can come back later. Let's vote the band wagon jumper.

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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:51 am

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In post 157, Havo wrote:L - 1.

This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse.

But this time town could literally NOT do worse.

Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:53 am

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We'll make Havo claim later or let mafia deal with him but for now voting them is not a good idea.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:00 pm

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vote: bluebloodedtoffee


just to remove that capping chance
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:01 pm

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In post 158, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 153, Havo wrote:Shutting down discussion is inherently Anti Town play.

Period.
Discussion is fine but all you keep saying is it's too early to discuss anything because a few players haven't posted much and too early for reads. What if we all took that approach? We'd be twiddling our thumbs until nightfall. How about anandoning your lofty principles and actually giving some reads, instead of just complaining about how unfair it all is?
This is a terrible post. NONE of this is true.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:13 pm

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I still think a WhyMafia lynch will happen sooner or later. But it should be happening now. Yes, for the same reasons. I get why you guys don't want to lynch WhyMaf—fine. I think it's best to have him interact with others and scumhunt first. I disagree that it's not likely for him to be mafia just because of the Miller claim. So moving forward, I'm gonna base my vote to the ruckus that has been happening. But before that, question and answers:

BlueBloodedToffee
Do you want me at L-1 because you think I'm scum? Why?

WhyMafia
I want an L-2 wagon on you because I want you to become the center of discussion. Deadline will not scramble because we are not dividing our attention to multiple candidates. Your wagon will be the source of wagon analysis. Your scumread on me is heavy on assumptions, and I can only see that it's a natural OMGUS reaction to my aggressive push. Or do you disagree?

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Who do you think is scum at this point, then?
Can't give you a number from 1- 10 as that's bullshitting. I can just say that you're who I want to lynch now.

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Not overwhelmingly. It's a policy lynch, technically. I want him out so we don't have to deal with the slot later, and then analyze based on what happened to the slot later. I think it's because scum would advocate for his survival to the point of LYLO, where it would be too late.

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Do you think people with the same reads as you do is town?

Right now, even without looking at his other horrible posts, #116 and #118 is basically screaming scum for Havo. But I'm not really into the game yet now so I'll probably get back at this with a longer post.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:29 pm

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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:32 pm

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In post 157, Havo wrote:L - 1.

This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse.

But this time town could literally NOT do worse.

Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
I actually missed this. UNVOTE:

@Tor: Why are you voting BBT?

@HEM:
In post 169, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Do you think WM is scum? Or are you pushing a policy lynch on him? Similarly, do you actually want to lynch him today?"
Not overwhelmingly. It's a policy lynch, technically. I want him out so we don't have to deal with the slot later, and then analyze based on what happened to the slot later. I think it's because scum would advocate for his survival to the point of LYLO, where it would be too late.
In post 32, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Ah. It's because the team is WhyMafia, Mulch, and someone who's gonna bus WhyMafia upon entrance.
Was the above serious?
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:09 pm

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This game is moving fast, this is incredible.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:47 pm

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In post 164, MariaR wrote:Hello? Why do we have Havo at L-1 7 pages in when there clearly softing PR. Get off this wagon the fact it picked up so fast with no counter wagon is red flags all over.
If you think Havo is scum we can come back later. Let's vote the band wagon jumper.

VOTE: Chip
How is chip a wagon jumper but skitter (the one that put havo at l-1is not?

VOTE: skitter
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:49 pm

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In post 171, skitter30 wrote:
In post 157, Havo wrote:L - 1.

This is where I'd normally say go ahead and lynch me, cause town could do worse.

But this time town could literally NOT do worse.

Lynching me is the worst thing town could do.
I actually missed this. UNVOTE:
This feels fake. How could you not of noticed that post? Your vote on havo felt opportunistic and i didnt call out on it in hopes someone would hammer (potentially revealing you both as scum)
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