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[Havo]

Longer deadlines = more discussion which only benefits town.

This is basic mafia 101.

Also so is unvoting a claimed PR 24 hours in, instead of

Tunneling to force a claim.

Mulch is too good of a player to not know this.

[Havo]

This explains Mulch continuing to push me.

Outing the town Cop is worth it for scum on Day 1.

Congrats Scum.

[Havo]

This also explains Why Mafias Miller claim.

[humaneatingmonkey]

So why didn't you fully believe WM's claim earlier?

Don't mind me, I'm actively avoiding to engage the thread right now.

[Sergtacos]

I mean, I don't want anyone to actually soft claim or hard claim in D1 because we need help from the power roles and we can't really have an advantage against the mafia if our power role players die.

Let me try that again...

What you are not understanding but which i have already pointed put is that town.havo hal already made himself a prime NK target by softing he is the strongest town PR.

Let me try this;

If he's a powerful investigative role - scum's best option is to use PRs that will effect his investigation (e.g. roleblock) because he will likely be protected.
If he is a powerful protective role scum's best option is to kill him.

So why should we help scum sort their best play?

Describe why he's scum or this conversation should die in a fire.
A full claim without L-1 is derp.

So much this!! Love this post.

[Sergtacos]

Don't mind me, I'm actively avoiding to engage the thread right now.

In other words you're lurking? Care to explain?

[Chip Butty]

If he's a powerful investigative role - scum's best option is to use PRs that will effect his investigation (e.g. roleblock) because he will likely be protected.
If he is a powerful protective role scum's best option is to kill him.

So why should we help scum sort their best play?
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This is fine from a Havo is town perspective, but from a Havo is scum perspective the point was to deny him the shelter of a vague false claim.

Moot point now probably.

But, you know, if you're a cop don't draw attention to yourself. If people want a few reads give em a few reads to get them off your back, and then you don't need to claim either soft or hard.

[Mulch]

Longer deadlines = more discussion which only benefits town.

This is basic mafia 101.

Also so is unvoting a claimed PR 24 hours in, instead of

Tunneling to force a claim.

Mulch is too good of a player to not know this.

Wrong wrong wrong

0/3

[Chip Butty]

@Thor: Incidentally, why did you take that hard Havo is town perspective there? Did you hardread him as town?

[Mulch]

UNVOTE: havo

[Mulch]

Mulch is too good of a player to be pushing a claimed PR this early.

His reasoning of "This is exactly what I did as mafia" is garbage.

Me not wanting to hardclaim a PR 24 hours in is not an unreasonable concept.

Why is this garbage? Your claim is scum 101 some vague ass "oh, I'm a power role!!!"

[Mulch]

Later today I'll read up and provide my new lynch target.

[Toranaga]

I'm ENRAGED

[Toranaga]

no idea who the wolves are but it's not havo

[Toranaga]

vote: misère

hype

[Havo]

So why didn't you fully believe WM's claim earlier?

Don't mind me, I'm actively avoiding to engage the thread right now.

I posted my support of WM without giving away my role.

[humaneatingmonkey]

You were flip-floppy about it tho, and that's what pinged me the most. You looked like as if you wanted to open an opportunity to jump on that wagon if it forms, but you also don't want to be obvious. Even when you said that he could be town, you said "for now." That's how I read your post about it.

[Havo]

Mulch is too good of a player to be pushing a claimed PR this early.

His reasoning of "This is exactly what I did as mafia" is garbage.

Me not wanting to hardclaim a PR 24 hours in is not an unreasonable concept.

Why is this garbage? Your claim is scum 101 some vague ass "oh, I'm a power role!!!"

Where did the term "soft" claim come from? What is a soft claim? Why is there a need for this term?

I soft claimed. That's what one does in that situation.

What's the point of a soft claim otherwise?

You are acting way too damn naive in this game.

[Havo]

You were flip-floppy about it tho, and that's what pinged me the most. You looked like as if you wanted to open an opportunity to jump on that wagon if it forms, but you also don't want to be obvious. Even when you said that he could be town, you said "for now." That's how I read your post about it.

Because I didn't want to give away my role in any way.

[Havo]

You were flip-floppy about it tho, and that's what pinged me the most. You looked like as if you wanted to open an opportunity to jump on that wagon if it forms, but you also don't want to be obvious. Even when you said that he could be town, you said "for now." That's how I read your post about it.

Because I didn't want to give away my role in any way.

I will post more about this later when I get home on my laptop.

I can't post for shit on my phone.

[humaneatingmonkey]

I think Havo's claim could be town. Not much can be said about his performance so far tho. In my experience as a PR, I claimed prematurely under pressure—but that's because there were only 12 hours before deadline. I don't have much experience but I think the motivation for an obvious soft-claim should be the one in scrutiny here. Is that scum or is that town? I can't trust my judgment right now but I think it's town.

[Sergtacos]

You were flip-floppy about it tho, and that's what pinged me the most. You looked like as if you wanted to open an opportunity to jump on that wagon if it forms, but you also don't want to be obvious. Even when you said that he could be town, you said "for now." That's how I read your post about it.

who are you referring/talking to?

[Havo]

I think Havo's claim could be town. Not much can be said about his performance so far tho. In my experience as a PR, I claimed prematurely under pressure—but that's because there were only 12 hours before deadline. I don't have much experience but I think the motivation for an obvious soft-claim should be the one in scrutiny here. Is that scum or is that town? I can't trust my judgment right now but I think it's town.

I'm so terribly sorry I'm not playing my game up to your standards.

[humaneatingmonkey]

No. You're not playing this game where people can see you as town. That's your real problem.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Apology accepted.