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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:49 pm

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pro town move my ASS!

ehhh I kinda like skitter too lol

can we just lynch misere please
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:50 pm

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In post 596, skitter30 wrote:And he voted him to L-2. And kept on indicating he wanted a Havo lynch after the claim. Your point?
What i indicated i wanted was a hardclaim. As soon as Havo gave that up, i withdrew my vote.

Why aren't you concerned about the people still on Havo, if this is such a big issue for you?
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:50 pm

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In post 600, Toranaga wrote:pro town move my ASS!

ehhh I kinda like skitter too lol

can we just lynch misere please
What about serge
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:51 pm

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Sorry, my dad just asked me to run an errand for him; I'll be back in like 30 min.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:07 pm

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In post 602, Mulch wrote:
In post 600, Toranaga wrote:pro town move my ASS!

ehhh I kinda like skitter too lol

can we just lynch misere please
What about serge
i'll have to get back to you on that. actually I'll read this entire thread and come up with good shit I promise. I'll make you love me very mulch.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:09 pm

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ahahahah
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:18 pm

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In post 21, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Humaneatingmonkey

Stay safe Thor; Irma looks pretty brutal.
In post 130, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can we get an L-1?
Fykus is lurking hard. This is literally it, so far...
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:19 pm

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Sorry, meant BBT. Checking Fykus output now...
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:28 pm

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Fykus: on the low-volume side but not lurking. Meh-ish. Lean town.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:34 pm

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In post 576, Toranaga wrote:
vote: skitter


if you're a villager, vote this with me
In post 600, Toranaga wrote:pro town move my ASS!

ehhh I kinda like skitter too lol

can we just lynch misere please
???5
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:34 pm

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In post 597, Mulch wrote:"I also dislike the fact that Chip kept his vote on Havo after acknowledging the soft, he indicated that he would support another Havo wagon,
and that he was proposing scum!havo to the point where he's setting up teams around him but isn't trying to sort anyone else."



What does this bold mean
It means I wanna know where he's getting the following from:
In post 406, Chip Butty wrote:If i squint just right, i can almost see a Havo-Thor-bumtaco ST...
After he unvoted, he's still proposing scumteams with Havo.
In post 598, Mulch wrote:The amount of fucking people that are scumreading me for a pro town move is fucking astounding
I disagree that it's a pro town move. By forcing him to claim, we just made him that much more susceptible to scum interference.
In post 601, Chip Butty wrote:What i indicated i wanted was a hardclaim. As soon as Havo gave that up, i withdrew my vote.

Why aren't you concerned about the people still on Havo, if this is such a big issue for you?
I don't think that asking him to hardclaim here was a good idea. After you withdrew your vote, you were trying to slot him into a scumteam.

Misere hasn't posted since before the claim; I'm scumleaning Mulch; I like the way HEM responded to the claim ( and ) in that he doesn't want to lynch Havo today but wants to see what happens with it. He's kinda paranoid in not trusting it, but wants to let it sort itself out. You sound more like you were trying to force a claim out of him just to force a claim out of him.

@Tor: Why do you want to lynch misere so badly? He has like two posts, and you were townreading him at the time he made them.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:39 pm

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In post 562, Toranaga wrote:yes it doesn't 'make sense' but this is a mafiascum game. this site has mods doing funny things with the mechanics just to fuck with us, I swear :P I played a game by an old MS mod that literally had a miller and no cop LOL.
In post 579, Toranaga wrote:
In post 572, Mulch wrote:
In post 570, Toranaga wrote:PRETTY MEH ON CONTENT

your content is pretty meh


I don't like a lot of your posts. But your big back and forth with me was towny
it was. maybe I'm being shit, IDK, this is my first game on mafiascum. I know what the community looks like anyway, so I shouldn't be too bad here.
You seem to have strong views about what MS games are like, for someone playing his first game here.

It might just be posting style, but you continue to ping me quite hard at times.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:01 pm

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@skitter:

Just because i unvoted Havo doesn't mean i don't suspect him, it just means let's wait until tomorrow, as I've already said. I've also already said why i wanted a hardclaim, and i stand by that.

Re: scumteam. Havo, as above. Thor because he seemed to be trying a little too hard to shift focus onto you and MariaR. Ironic, huh? Taco because i think it's possible he was running a chainsaw defence against me. Ie attacking me to infirectly defend Havo. But also probably because he was annoying me. Hey, I'm only human (monkey, please don't eat me).

Tbh after posting that i thought Havo-Thor-Tora would have been better.

Also, by saying i had to squint to see it, i was indicating that it wasn't a strong suspicion for ST.

Finally, after thinking through the implications of a miller / loyal cop combo I'm less suspicious of Havo. If he's faking it, it's not too shabby. Otoh the loyal part might be a defence against a possible cop cc...
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:31 pm

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@Chip:

I don't love the scumreads on Havo, cuz I think he's frustrated!town.

I think that pre-flips are dangerous, so I dunno that's a great reason for Serg to be there, especially since your other reason is cuz he was annoying you lol. I'm townleaning Serg, but I agree with you on Tor. I don't feel like I have enough info to see if Thor/Tor fit together yet.

Also, I think the miller-loyal cop interaction is hilarious.

I think I want this more.

VOTE: Tor
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:58 pm

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In post 611, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 562, Toranaga wrote:yes it doesn't 'make sense' but this is a mafiascum game. this site has mods doing funny things with the mechanics just to fuck with us, I swear :P I played a game by an old MS mod that literally had a miller and no cop LOL.
In post 579, Toranaga wrote:
In post 572, Mulch wrote:
In post 570, Toranaga wrote:PRETTY MEH ON CONTENT

your content is pretty meh


I don't like a lot of your posts. But your big back and forth with me was towny
it was. maybe I'm being shit, IDK, this is my first game on mafiascum. I know what the community looks like anyway, so I shouldn't be too bad here.
You seem to have strong views about what MS games are like, for someone playing his first game here.

It might just be posting style, but you continue to ping me quite hard at times.
I know some people from this site and played a lot with them. I understand a lot about the community without having played here yes.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 609, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 576, Toranaga wrote:
vote: skitter


if you're a villager, vote this with me
In post 600, Toranaga wrote:pro town move my ASS!

ehhh I kinda like skitter too lol

can we just lynch misere please
???5
between those posts we had a bunch of skitter posts and I liked some of them. what's confusing about it, nothing? yeah I thought so...
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:10 pm

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@Tora: you've voted misere twice without reasons and included him in a possible ST. what's with the hardon?
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:54 pm

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Will wait for a votecount before voting the largest wagon.

25 pages in and no lynch yet. The shame.
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:05 pm

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In post 610, skitter30 wrote:@Tor: Why do you want to lynch misere so badly? He has like two posts, and you were townreading him at the time he made them.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:17 pm

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In post 617, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Will wait for a votecount before voting the largest wagon.

25 pages in and no lynch yet. The shame.
VOTE: BlueBloodToffee
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:27 pm

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I want to lynch misère cause I thought her two posts are >rand scum posts. give me a couple of days and I'll do a complete re-read of everything, I'm just very busy atm... but I think the misere read is good without knowing her anyway
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:57 pm

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In post 620, Toranaga wrote:I want to lynch misère cause I thought her two posts are >rand scum
That is pure scummy zero-content BS. What, specifically strikes you as scummy? At the time of their posts all you said was you thought their read on monkey was too good to come from town. What else, if anything, do you have, cos that's lame.

Misere needs to post more...
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:03 pm

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In post 613, skitter30 wrote: I think I want this more.

VOTE: Tor
I'm increasingly sympathetic to the idea of a Tora lynch today.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:15 pm

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[HEM]
[WM, Mulch, Skitter]
[Thor, Misere, Fykus]
[MariaR, Taco, Havo]
[BBT, Tora]
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:50 pm

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alright let me start by breaking down what I considered to be misère's wolfiness in her two posts, then I'll try reading the game or at least stuff I skimmed or skipped.
In post 95, Misère wrote:I don't know if WhyMafia is town, but I'm not going to take claiming Miller as evidence that he isn't.

I think humaneatingmonkey is town for taking an unpopular (because wrong, but still) stance w.r.t. WhyMafia's claim, and refusing to soften it under pressure. If he were scum hiding behind policy I would expect him to just say "oh, good point" and back down when everyone disagrees with him.

VOTE: Havo
the first paragraph is hedgy and phrased in a way that keeps misère absolutely neutral about WM. It feels extremely safe and, considering how everyone else reacted so strongly one way or the other, I don't think this neutral read comes from a townie place.

I already said why the second paragraph is >rand scum. It's a good read and I feel fine sponging it, but it's a lot easier to get there from a place of actual TMI that monkey is town. A little like when dead players read the game with the spoilers, and go 'oh but he is so obvtown for this and that'. this is it, this 'he wouldn't keep pushing whatever he is pushing as a wolf by now' post. I also think she isn't taking a much wholly approach to her read, instead saying someone is town exclusively for the stubborn behaviour, and that also feels a bit like TMI with the strength of the read vs the reasons given.

I'll grab her other post now.
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