ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 1109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If Math gladiates you and it gets redirected to me again, you are scum. The likelihood of it redirecting to me twice in the same Night is slim so you really need to show why that shouldn't happen.
IT.IS.RANDOM.
WHAT FUCKING PART OF THAT CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
If it gets redirected to me again I'm calling bullshit.
See you're not even taking half a fucking second to think on this.
If it gets redirected to you again then it either randed you again or Ali makes the rand roll for the phase instead of per ability.
Don't buy either. There's a phrase called too convenient.
Except it wouldn't be convenient. And if I'm town, JaeReed is almost certainly town too. I'm seriously confident they wouldn't be reacting like this as scum -- and if I'm wrong, someone will have to point to a game that shows it.
In post 1118, Impoetic wrote:OK holy fk. So math gladiated jae and jaereed redirected it to you? We know this for a fact? Like, math saw a message that gladiate was on you, but it's not on you because you're ascetic? And when/why did jae use the nexus?
The last few pages make me pretty confident jae's town so I hope you can trust
There's no town motivation for you not outright claiming nexus.
I'm loud. There's no reason to claim when people targeting me know they were redirected and who to.
I softed it to mastina who softed doc to me D1 so she wouldn't bother wasting it on me and that's all I see a need to do.
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
In post 1124, Impoetic wrote:was targeting math random too? I assumed it was only the recipient of the targeted power that was random. When did the redirect happen?
Can someone please answer me so I can understand these arguments?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 1109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If Math gladiates you and it gets redirected to me again, you are scum. The likelihood of it redirecting to me twice in the same Night is slim so you really need to show why that shouldn't happen.
IT.IS.RANDOM.
WHAT FUCKING PART OF THAT CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
If it gets redirected to me again I'm calling bullshit.
See you're not even taking half a fucking second to think on this.
If it gets redirected to you again then it either randed you again or Ali makes the rand roll for the phase instead of per ability.
Don't buy either. There's a phrase called too convenient.
Except it wouldn't be convenient. And if I'm town, JaeReed is almost certainly town too. I'm seriously confident they wouldn't be reacting like this as scum -- and if I'm wrong, someone will have to point to a game that shows it.
In post 1109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If Math gladiates you and it gets redirected to me again, you are scum. The likelihood of it redirecting to me twice in the same Night is slim so you really need to show why that shouldn't happen.
IT.IS.RANDOM.
WHAT FUCKING PART OF THAT CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
If it gets redirected to me again I'm calling bullshit.
See you're not even taking half a fucking second to think on this.
If it gets redirected to you again then it either randed you again or Ali makes the rand roll for the phase instead of per ability.
Don't buy either. There's a phrase called too convenient.
Except it wouldn't be convenient. And if I'm town, JaeReed is almost certainly town too. I'm seriously confident they wouldn't be reacting like this as scum -- and if I'm wrong, someone will have to point to a game that shows it.
Why in the world would anyone gladiate a nexus twice???
Don't gladiate the person you just got redirected from. Gladiate someone else if you must, but not them. That makes no sense, so there's no reason anything else should be redirected to Luv right now.
Ok so. It's confirmed that LUV is ascetic. Jae is pretty much an ascetic. What if Purple as maf knows there is a kill mechanic we aren't aware about and is a scum RB. RBed me in order to get me mmislynched. And then when I flipped town they could say I was rb'd so it was the "logical" solution
In post 1121, Impoetic wrote:OK jae, to clarify, was the lie I accused you of just me asking you to roleclaim, or was it your alignment? Sorry, I want to be sure.
In post 1142, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If it's infinite, why does it matter? We can test how random it really is.
because there's a possibility the gladiate goes to the same person, and if scum knows we're testing how random it is and they aren't random then scum can easily pick someone else. There's no reason except to throw shade.
If scum can only change their gladiate target once per night, then it's totally plausible that the randomness is also once per night. And there's no reason to claim nexus and redirect something to you intentionally as scum, right? I mean... what's the point of that? They could redirect it to anyone else and be way townier for it.
Why claim randomized nexus if you're a nexus without randomization and you redirected something to ascetic? You know that the person who targets you knows it was redirected, and claiming makes it obvious you redirected it, so why the fuck would you do it?
In post 476, Purple Nurple wrote:Really really really REALLY not happy about this but VOTE: XnadrojX
Also you picked up on my answer to your question yeah?
Softing the loud nexus while trying to be cute enough about it that people might think it was a PGO (I get the same benefit out of it in that ppl won't bother to target me). These were the posts on D1. The following is all D2 where I all but claimed nexus.
In post 579, JaeReed wrote:trying to think about balance.
my role
public cop (x shot?)
split jailkeeper (one thing only usable)
ascetic
macho kinda ic
post restricted gladiator (hated if broken)
would my role, ari's role, jill's role, and ascetic be the same alignment? that's a crapload of negative utility for town if so. Like a shitload. more than I realistically think would be possible honestly. scum team might just have a public cop in that situation. but i don't think luv is town still?
In post 599, JaeReed wrote:i mean i'm neg utility and didn't explicitly claim it d1 either even if i did soft it...
Explicitly with reference to LUV not claiming ascetic. I never once said he should be policy'd for not claiming ascetic and you keep trying to shove those words in my mouth when I've not once suggested that.
In post 643, JaeReed wrote:like my role itself is essentially ascetic with a twist
you think there's that much neg utility in town?
really think that?
there isn't.
In post 649, JaeReed wrote:I don't care about flavour when it doesn't make sense from a balance perspective.
Like you pushing it's fine solely based on flavor when my thing is purely about balance is bad too.
your role can still fit for flavor while you're scum.
In post 663, Impoetic wrote:It also seems sort of unbalanced with such a small game, but I guess I wouldn't know.
both myself and luv can't be targeted and there's already an ic in the game afaik in jill so... not that unbalanced when you take all that into account
In post 755, JaeReed wrote:target me tonight and i'll believe you're town.
similar to
there's a reason I want you to target me with it. you'll understand when you do so if u trust me.
That's even why I told you, Math, to fucking reread my ISO when you were hinting about targeting me.
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
Jae what if I've just improved my scum game to not include posturing