Micro 738: Fountain of Tired Souls [Endgame]
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Didn't like your attempt to buddy me.
Don't have a read on gerry; it's too early to tell. Will say his posts on this page seem more likely scum!gerry than not, but it's still too early to tell.
And I kind of get the crumb but I'm not answering.
You haven't bled town yet, sorry to disappoint, and I think there's a chance I've read you wrong before, but you simply haven't done enough yet for me to make a call, babe.
The OMGUS does makes me feel better about you, though, so there's that.- JaeReed
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Why was it towny for you both?In post 65, Impoetic wrote:@Purrnerd
why didn't you think nahdia was town? for the post you quoted, for which you made a point of townreading me but scumreading them, which was actually pretty towny for both imo- JaeReed
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probably vert.
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Oh. I didn't much like Impo's 65 because I can't see Impo genuinely seeing "/confirm" as being townie openings for the both of you. I can understand a read like that from mastina, since it's more of a gamestate read, but I don't remember Impo ever reading things in that manner? Didn't think much of her omgus on me either.In post 106, Nahdia wrote:I understand what they mean, I'm asking WHY you're FoSing these people.
mastina's buddying of me I wasn't particularly fond of, neither do I think the fluff about knowing the game is particularly town indicative here for her because it's still game related in that it's flavor related. Wasn't fond of the comment toward gerry in 56 as it reads like posturing, also. Feels like mastina was confident she could pocket me and have me go hard at gerry for his first few posts.
All that said, gerryisshaping up to be playing as his scum meta so far so /shrugs. Particularly the way he's discrediting me saying it's too early to tell. I can't really put into words why I think he wouldn't react in that manner if he were town, though. I might have better luck in doing so later.
VOTE: gerryoat
HURT: Impoetic
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Possible, but I don't know if it's probable at this stage.In post 107, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: Purple Nurple
Post 95 reads to me like mastina trying to emulate her towngame and laying it on a bit too thick.
mastina knows what I look for in her as scum after I outlined it in Kingdom Hearts, which is why I'm wary of flat out calling that a town reaction to my FoS. What I'm tossing up is whether she'd care enough to try to pocket me and I think maybe she wouldn't? I don't think there's enough people here who are intimate with her meta that she wouldn't just take me on if I scumread her, and continue to townread me in order to look good? Blehhh I'm running out of explainey words and that's frustrating.
I think she COULD be purposely doing this 180 because I hard townread her in Kingdom Hearts and that was one of the reasons I pushed really hard for her to be town, but I don't know if that possibility alone outweighs the probable "this is town mastina doing her usual" explanation. I don't think she's scared of me as scum. She knows that if I tried to hard push her as scum even if I correctly scumread her, she'd probably come out of it looking even more town for it because I suck at pushing.
If you're talking about her typing style, I think she's not laying it on thick enough, honestly. I guess that's my problem with that compared to here and here where she scumread me in Kingdom Hearts. But there are key differences between the two in that in KH she was inherently paranoid of me in the early game because I was deliberately not posting until I had a read on her, and here her scumread may actually be based in more than just paranoia. idunno, I think I just convinced myself that I'm just being paranoid in scumreading her, actually.
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That's a fair call.In post 110, Nahdia wrote:I'm not really confident in my ability to metaread gerry. My impression is that he does this incredulous "gosh you're so ridiculous for scumreading me" shtick as both town and scum. No real read there yet.
I do think his thing about it being night was a bit overblown in potentially a faking a towntell manner.
Like I know it's gerry so he could have just not read the PM but inside the PM Ali even clarified that meant it was day and idunno, it feels moderately icky enough that I'm ok with that.
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Attempting to pocket Nahdia.In post 131, Impoetic wrote:FTR, why would I pretend to think it was towny after getting a townread for doing it? It's not so i could argue this; WIFOM like that is pretty stupid and useless. I know I do a lot of things that are stupid and useless, but why do you think I'd think to do that particular thing there if I had no genuine read on the /confirm (which is what you said) and then not inhibit myself from carrying it out? There's literally no good outcome from it. No one's gonna scumread me for not saying it. No one's gonna townread me for saying it; if anything, it would make mastina's read feel less reliable to other players looking on at the scene.- JaeReed
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I mean... I healed Purple so.In post 131, Impoetic wrote:So obviously you don't think this is all 3 scum; was there no thought process triggered here about which townie you were scumreading in these 3?- JaeReed
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Possible.In post 164, Purple Nurple wrote:osuka + gerry?- JaeReed
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gerry I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. You remember events the way you want to remember them and I'm not interested in turning this into smith's game v2. From my pov here you only want to turn this into some drawn out meta argument on my accuracy on reading you. Like, bringing up a game where I was previously townreading you iirc before being dayvigged 3 days in and tilting about you saying our explosive rage over it was scum is just flat a discrediting tactic regardless of alignment.
I believe you'd bring it up no matter your alignment but if you don't want to have me lose my shit again I'd rather you take a different approach. I think your townread on me really isn't fleshed out well at all and I think it's an attempt to get me off your back rather than a genuine read. If you could talk about that and give me a case on impoetic that's in one post I'll listen.- JaeReed
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I'm sick. I don't really have the mental capacity to process your thing right now so I'm putting it off. Sorry it came across as ignoring you.In post 273, gerryoat wrote:i'm annoyed jae just ignores me in games now- JaeReed
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fuck off, i'm not scum because I'm voting him seriously fullstop.In post 322, Purple Nurple wrote:I'll say you're not likely scum because you're voting him and you know what to look for the same way I do.
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this is the pertinent bit in my vert readIn post 322, Purple Nurple wrote:AndLil Uzi Vert is lurkingwhile also refusing to recognize this is transparently a scum-gerry.- JaeReed
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she's not bullshitting. it's a serious read on her end and this is how she plays.In post 324, gerryoat wrote:also mastina you scumread me way before I would have "lurked" it was literally my first post of the game, so you're just bullshiting.
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it's not about your involvement i don't think - it's more how you interact with ppl. i'm still not 100% sold but eh < and i will expand on this in a sec tooIn post 321, gerryoat wrote:so please stop acting like you can read me, when you clearly can't at all. My involvement in a game is based on how interested i am.- JaeReed
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I would love nothing more than to back you but I don't feel it as strongly as you do right now and normally I feel it strongly when gerry is scum rather than this uncertainty. I think he COULD be scum, sure, but I don't think he necessarily is? needs more info/time/posts basically to sort.In post 316, Purple Nurple wrote:And Jae should be backing me here and I really wish they could give me their words on the subject too- JaeReed
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first is gently a scumtell yeaIn post 314, Purple Nurple wrote:This gerry is contributing fake-townslips, pushes he doesn't really believe in, a lot of OMGUS (look at the people he's voted and then look at the people who have voted him), shitposting/spamposting, and when he gives content it's nothing tangible, not even in a bad way.
2nd is a scumtell but can you back it up that he doesn't believe in them? (I'm guessing you're getting that from the unvote on impo?)
OMGUS is something town gerry does as well and does in spades
shitposting is something town gerry does rather than give content too at times
spamposting eh sure?
nothing tangible for content is usually town gerry
Like I love you but you almost made me want to unvote there.
What I find more pertinent is LUV not pushing the fake townslip when he deathtunneled me in civ for pre much the same.
Think I have LUV as more likely scum over gerry because that could be defending a townie or it could be defending a scumbud but i do think it's a scum luv.
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I'm not reading you based off activity rn, I'm looking at the genuineness of your reads and I'm just not feeling it.
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Impo the issue here is he deathtunneled me for it and accepted no excuse when I did the same thing in a previous game. And he was right to because I was scum. There's no reason for him to not do so to gerry here.
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we need a non shit wagon.In post 425, Alisae wrote:VOTE COUNT 1 . 17- Garrybote----- 2 ( JaeReed, Purple Nurple )L- 3
Impoetic------ 2 ( Lil Uzi Vert, XnadrojX )L- 3
osuka--------- 1 ( osuka )L- 4
Nahdia-------- 1 ( Oggs Benedict )L- 4
XnadrojX------ 1 ( Nahdia )L- 4
Purple Nurple- 1 ( Garrybote )L- 4
Not Voting--- 1 ( Impoetic )
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to Lynch
####################|[023%][/center][/b][/i]FOS COUNT 1 . 17- JaeReed------- 3 ( XnadrojX, Impoetic, osuka )
Nahdia-------- 2 ( XnadrojX, Purple Nurple )
Impoetic------ 2 ( XnadrojX, JaeReed )
Lil Uzi Vert-- 2 ( XnadrojX, Oggs Benedict )
Purple Nurple- 1 ( osuka )
XnadrojX------ 1 ( Purple Nurple )
Oggs Benedict- 1 ( XnadrojX )
osuka--------- 1 ( XnadrojX )
Garrybote----- 1 ( Purple Nurple )
Not FoS'ing--- 3 ( Garrybote, Lil Uzi Vert, Nahdia)
Days Remaining Without Lynching
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UNVOTE:
mastina I'm getting a distinct lack of posturing gerry here which i find is a staple of his scum game. if you can point out where you feel he's grandstanding and posturing like he tends to do in his scum games i'd like that but rn i'm not feeling it and even if i thought we could get a lynch there today i don't want it. i don't have you as hard town which concerns me as well so would like more from you in general.
i'm willing to lynch either of the 2 voting impoetic at this point so...
VOTE: jordan
too much room for me to be wrong on luv at this point in the game i think, specially when town luv tends to find the mafia i tend to struggle to find im good with this. i'll just chill with nahds a bit.
oh yea
HEAL: impoetic
HURT: Garrybote
HURT: Oggs
HURT: lil uzi vert
@mastina thoughts on Arichan's play? I'm willing to move elsewhere if you have a tr there, can't remember your read and not inclined to go hunting for it given rl stuff happening rn. spoonfeed me.- JaeReed
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well then the whole game gets to see your dumb ass flip when you try to do anything to me tonight :pIn post 464, gerryoat wrote: Jae what if I've just improved my scum game to not include posturing- JaeReed
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Jordan you realize this is a battery deadline, we have no good wagon for a lynch, and non content posting will drain it faster AND we are at 20% of the battery?
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Also you picked up on my answer to your question yeah?In post 476, Purple Nurple wrote:Really really really REALLY not happy about this but
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I missed it. I don't do crumbs, I'm bad at following them so unless they're super blatant I ignore it.In post 522, Purple Nurple wrote:Also as if there were any doubt JaeReed is town because they couldn't possibly have missed my reference to the Tarzan song I directed their way. (You'll Be In My Heart-->Tarzan song-->Tarzan was in Kingdom Hearts Mafia as a Split Jailkeeper.)- JaeReed
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yeah not possible dudeIn post 531, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What if Jae and mastina are scum?- JaeReed
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this is too broad of a sweeping statement my dudeIn post 547, gerryoat wrote:jae do you also think mastina is the type to do big gambits?
as town yes
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mafia that could use their role to give night talk in For Us.In post 549, Purple Nurple wrote:
Jae I need someone to back me up here.In post 539, gerryoat wrote:yes im sure that mafia having a public cop as their ability surely sounds balanced
Like. Literally anyone who has played an Alisae game would do but you're the only one I can think of who I know for sure has and you know why this point is absolute bullshit. Giving the mafia town-sounding abilities is just something Alisae fucking DOES.
In particular, one idea Alisae stole from me? Loud Fruit Vendor as a mafia role.
Another idea of mine which Alisae could take since Alisae is often inspired by mastina setups? Mafia Sane Cop. I've had in my games a Mafia Sane Cop. So why the fuck. Would an Alisae, who is KNOWN TO STEAL THINGS FROM PRIOR MASTINA GAMES. Not have it as a mafia role? It's literallyrightup Alisae's alley.
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probs depends on the wording of the role pm of the blocker tbh.In post 563, gerryoat wrote:like it wouldnt even say i visited LUV cause i would have been stopped from doing that at all. right? or am i wrong
and no don't think purple is fakeclaiming here. in a game with 2 maf it's pretty suicidal to do so and mastina is smarter than that as maf.- JaeReed
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^ this is still mafia ftr
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think a public cop checking luv makes sense?
but also think a luv/gerry team makes sense as well in that case if luv is ascetic. it's not actually confirming or condemning in any manner.
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maybe we could just lynch me?
lots of choices
pedit gerry that only works if you dont' suspect her to be maf y'know- JaeReed
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actually mastina softed doc when talking to me with the emoji, maybe scum picked up on that and roleblocked her?- JaeReed
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trying to think about balance.
my role
public cop (x shot?)
split jailkeeper (one thing only usable)
ascetic
macho kinda ic
post restricted gladiator (hated if broken)
would my role, ari's role, jill's role, and ascetic be the same alignment? that's a crapload of negative utility for town if so. Like a shitload. more than I realistically think would be possible honestly. scum team might just have a public cop in that situation. but i don't think luv is town still?- JaeReed
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this is pre staple for town mastinaIn post 589, gerryoat wrote:ya mastina outed 3 claims so far. and eddie can you answer my question
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lurking drains the batteryIn post 590, gerryoat wrote:WAIT I JUST REALIZED I'VE UNDERSTOOD THIS GAME WRONG. POSTING MORE = DRAINING BATTERY? I THOUGHT WE HAD TO POST MORE TO STOP THE METER FROM GOING DOWN LOL
shitposting drains the battery
from my understanding.
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not yet, still paranoid. you're close but i'm not just gonna sheep you rn, i need real time interaction with mastina and to figure some things out with her mechanically.- JaeReed
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luv why are you fear mongering?
"jae and mastina could be scum together"
"mastina could be fakeclaiming because i'm ascetic"
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this is a fucking awful post.In post 640, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
If he flips town we can just lynch Purple tomorrow.In post 639, Nahdia wrote:
you're right. the SAFEST PLAN is to lynch the CLAIMED PUBLIC COP.In post 631, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:My gut is telling me safest play is just to lynch Gerry.
My head wants to lynch in:
{Impoetic, Nahdia, Oggs, osuka}
my god, dude.
purple is town. you're arguing they're intentionally trying for a 1 for 1 trade for no reason in a game with only 2 scum.
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like my role itself is essentially ascetic with a twist
you think there's that much neg utility in town?
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I don't care about flavour when it doesn't make sense from a balance perspective.
Like you pushing it's fine solely based on flavor when my thing is purely about balance is bad too.
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pull out. this won't help and mastina wouldn't pull this gambit as scum in most situations I can think of so you can just assume they're town here.In post 648, gerryoat wrote:see, if you were town i think you'd be more understanding that i could be town but you saying that it's 80% sure when it's role madness and other mechanics, make me think you're maf.
at least til night 3 please.
I don't think luv plays this way as town or pushes these avenues as town and do you agree it looks hella suspect if you and purple are both town? - JaeReed
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