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So what question wouldn't be considered multiple choice?In post 77, Bulbazak wrote:Yes/No questions count as multiple choice. Otherwise, mine wouldn't have been accepted.
Why say he want at least one then?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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These all sound like potential ways to stall out a game.In post 98, Not_Mafia wrote:
Someone will be penalised for being the first post on a pageIn post 87, drealmerz7 wrote:
that's a great one!In post 86, ActionDan wrote:I submitted my questions but I should have added one about asking for a penalty if someone posts 3 times in a row.
Q.) Players should be penalized if they:
a. post more than 3 times in a row
b. have more posts than anyone else by 33%
c. are the only player to post on a page
d. omgus vote more than once
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F. Your can only post in order of your player number. No skipping or mod killed."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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So we are at two votesIn post 158, Vaxkiller wrote:I put down I would policy lynch you."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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How sure are you?
I'm 13% sure, but that's it."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Did you expect to be locked out of thread?In post 417, Alisae wrote:oh wow I can post in the gamethread after I did that"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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In post 649, Bulbazak wrote:He's too panicky. It makes me think the Wish Granter is likely not real. And even if it is, I don't care enough to keep Mulch alive."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Nope. Don't care.In post 1312, Bulbazak wrote:What? Didn't expect me to keep tabs on you when I noticed you were posting in other games?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Their was less than 24 hours left. Waiting on the next day.In post 1316, Bulbazak wrote:Cool. Why were you avoiding this game?
That's obvious not the case now."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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I did-ishIn post 1337, Vaxkiller wrote:Damnit I want a claim!"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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You think we have made re than 1 vig?In post 1558, chesskid3 wrote:Vigrolesnow have an incentive to not aim for scumfuckers and aim for survivors?
If we do, do you think they all should kill night 1?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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But what do you think?In post 1561, chesskid3 wrote:it's a plural u use when quantity unknown 0-infinity
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people with brains in this thread should do X
looks like 0 so far etc etc and yet still use the plural"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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How many is not the question.In post 1559, Srceenplay wrote:
You think we have made re than 1 vig?In post 1558, chesskid3 wrote:Vigrolesnow have an incentive to not aim for scumfuckers and aim for survivors?
If we do, do you think they all should kill night 1?
These are the two questions"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Yes. Sorry. It was corrected in the next postIn post 1567, Chickadee wrote:Is theres a typo in that first question? Because I've read it like 20 times....."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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I'm trying to get from you if you feel like we are going to have multiple deaths tonight.In post 1566, chesskid3 wrote:your questions are bad and you should feel bad
Are you thinking multiple vigs are going to go kill crazy.
If you think we have multiple vigs? should they all kill tonight?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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In post 1567, Chickadee wrote:Is theres a typo in that first question? Because I've read it like 20 times.....In post 1559, Srceenplay wrote:
You think we have made re than 1 vig?In post 1558, chesskid3 wrote:Vigrolesnow have an incentive to not aim for scumfuckers and aim for survivors?
If we do, do you think they all should kill night 1?In post 1560, Srceenplay wrote:*think we have more than 1"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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My question is to chess kid in response to his statement.In post 1574, Chickadee wrote:
Ah, yea, I read all that, and then my brain deleted it when you quoted only the first post.In post 1573, Srceenplay wrote:In post 1567, Chickadee wrote:Is theres a typo in that first question? Because I've read it like 20 times.....In post 1559, Srceenplay wrote:
You think we have made re than 1 vig?In post 1558, chesskid3 wrote:Vigrolesnow have an incentive to not aim for scumfuckers and aim for survivors?
If we do, do you think they all should kill night 1?In post 1560, Srceenplay wrote:*think we have more than 1
As an answer to the first question, there have been some hints dropped already, but it's not my job to point them out to you. I think I have a good idea of how to vig thing works in this game.
There is not really a right or wrong answer. I was just trying to get what he thinks."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Is your no response an "I don't know?" "Im not talking to you!" "I'm keeping my thoughts to myself."?In post 1583, chesskid3 wrote:
ive no response to your questionIn post 1577, Srceenplay wrote:
My question is to chess kid in response to his statement.In post 1574, Chickadee wrote:
Ah, yea, I read all that, and then my brain deleted it when you quoted only the first post.In post 1573, Srceenplay wrote:In post 1567, Chickadee wrote:Is theres a typo in that first question? Because I've read it like 20 times.....In post 1559, Srceenplay wrote:
You think we have made re than 1 vig?In post 1558, chesskid3 wrote:Vigrolesnow have an incentive to not aim for scumfuckers and aim for survivors?
If we do, do you think they all should kill night 1?In post 1560, Srceenplay wrote:*think we have more than 1
As an answer to the first question, there have been some hints dropped already, but it's not my job to point them out to you. I think I have a good idea of how to vig thing works in this game.
There is not really a right or wrong answer. I was just trying to get what he thinks."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Maybe not yours but it's mine.In post 1602, ActionDan wrote:that's not engagement, screenplay
I was hoping chess and I could figure things out together but blah.
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Explain this for me and everyone else please.In post 1752, Llamarble wrote:B"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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This is what I want explained please.In post 1752, Llamarble wrote:Bulbatown -> Screenscum makes a lot of sense for reads + votes"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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In post 1752, Llamarble wrote:I mean, for survival reasons I am functionally voting Mario and Bulba right now.
I don't really believe in a flashwagon on someone else. Mayyyybe on Slysly who may have been playing a "Bulba and Lycan are town I'mma hang out on other wagons while one of them gets lynched" game.
Certainly the fakeability is there for Slysly's posting. If it had been "I don't think Lycan or Bulba are town; let's try hard to start something else" I'd have been happier about that.
I guess ActionDan had a similar post, and AD also voted screen later, thinking Bulbatown overall but disliking 953, which, yeah, was pretty bad.
Slysly vote is reasonable. Bulbatown -> Screenscum makes a lot of sense for reads + votes. So Dan is looking better.
Focusing on figuring out the path to manipulate votes to get the lynch you want early in the day instead of focusing on reading the game does not reflect well on Bulba at all.
I'd go so far as to say counting votes to identify which wagon can be made to work (especially so early) is very strongly in the Things Scum Do Considerably More Than Town category.
I hope people are around this evening to move votes as needed.In post 1763, Llamarble wrote:Ah, I regard all the other players on Bulba's wagon, aside from you Screen, as very likely to be town.
So if he's town, that looks very bad for you.
And as for your reply Bulba, a copguilty doesn't always result in a scumflip; counterexamples do exist, but it sure increases the odds quite a bit.
As a townie, what do you care about the most? Identifying scum. Once you have a very solid read, you can think about how to get them lynched.
As a scumbag, what do you care about the most? Making sure that at the end of the day you or a teammate don't end up lynched.
The primary information scum are interested in is other people's reads (specifically how they will vote and how voting is likely to go).
Then they use the scum voting block, combined with the latent town on town violence they've identified, to make a mislynch happen.
I won't deny that having some awareness of where things are going is useful as town.
But for scum it is THE thing that they actually can think about and take interest in. The rest is just theater for them.In post 1766, Llamarble wrote:You're not wrong that scum would generally be more subtle about their use of that information.
Considering the wagon on Lycan seems to have had its roots in "let's just try to stack some votes together on someone, anyone, and maybe something good will happen" I'm feeling less surprised that it might stall after 9 votes and a replacement.
I take some issue with you voting me instead of trying harder to lynch other people if your feelings on my slot are pressure -> meh result while you believe Chickadee and Chesskid are scum.
But I see you did vote Screen, which as I've mentioned is a good vote if you are town.
If you and me really are both town, the Src - Slysly team starts to look good.
If people want to just hang around this evening, if we have a lot of people in the thread it's still possible to wagon somebody completely new with the power of deadline.In post 1769, Llamarble wrote:Chess has been pro-town today. He's a good player and so forth, but I think he's town.
I guess my list of valid lynches for today right now looks like (More ???s = more exploration required so probably leave to day 2)
Vecna?? (I want to reexamine with a cooler head. Good player requiring deeper analysis)
Desp?? (Not much content yet; good player)
Snarky? (haven't explored enough but sketchy)
Random? (haven't explored much but sketchy)
Srceen (makes a lot of sense if Bulba town)
Slysly (Makes sense either way, really, but the "scum staying off both wagons on townies" reading was really working for me)
Bulba (very town wagon is probably the best reason but considering the other big wagon was also on town, maybe scum wanted to lynch bulba tomorrow after Lycan??)
Mario (Simply hasn't done anything that convinces me otherwise + works with variety of teams)
You talk so much, you are making my voice hurt.In post 1773, Llamarble wrote:My range as scum is that while there aren't many particular posts I'm incapable of producing, the thread bombardment of looking through everything over and over I don't think I've successfully faked.
Like the number of different possibilities I've considered and things I've gone back and forth on in under 48 hours in this game, I don't believe I can fake that.
I've gotten excited about things that might be the solution, that might bring clarity and then other things show up that contradict them and I admit to myself that I don't have it figured out yet move on to considering other possibilities.
Like Bulba you made a good counterargument to my reading of your 'this is where this wagon will go' post, and now I am looking at everything else again, trying to assemble a new picture that makes sense.
I dunno, I just don't see how people can think I'm scum here. Usually when I get like this, yeah, one or two people are tunneled on me but usually the town at large sees me for what I am, wearing my heart on my sleeve and trying to figure the game out.
Mario, when I read peoples' ISOs I usually see a lot of stuff that would be difficult for me, or for them to fake as scum.
So my reads have a tendency to initialize on whoever doesn't look too hard to fake is scummy (and yes, this does mean I tend to pursue lurky players D1, which usually works out because it makes them get active and do things and then we can reevaluate and maybe try another wagon and create a pro-town day 1)"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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That would be a horrible wincon because I would/will never post a pic.In post 1794, Toby Determined wrote:
I'm not saying there is a secret wincoin that is met if every player submits a Trejo pick.In post 1793, Chickadee wrote:I am however curious about the Trejo pics."A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Took over sly role.In post 1809, Vaxkiller wrote:Someone explain plz... llamarbl e was a survivor but now hes something else?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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Another question
Your plan all along was to replace into a towny slot but did you even have a choice on a replacement?In post 1819, Llamarble wrote:I was pretty sure I couldn't make it to endgame alive as a survivor so I just played like a townie and planned to replace into a townish playerslot.
I read it as you lose if there is a replacement, so you would have to take the first one to come up regardless.
Is that wrong?"A man can not be too careful on the choices of his enemies." Oscar Wilde- Srceenplay
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You are not concerned that it sounds contradicting?
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That ties into my other question.In post 1824, drealmerz7 wrote:srceenplay, see, he already said
to work with town, to make scum dead!
Will you settle down and stop being so excited.
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