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Up-to-date now.
My reads are based on how logical posts were imo...
Town (green) to null (white) to Scum (red):
1 Xem, 5 Lex, 6 Zex
2 Xig, 12 Larx
3 Xal, 10 Lux
4 Vex, 8 Axel, 9 Demyx, 11 Marlux, 13 Rox
Town/Townlean:
1 Xemnas: mod conf town
5 Lexaeus, 6 Zexion: Liked the interaction-interrogation session on P2-3 between these two. Liked how they started from opposite ends of the spectrum and merged at a common point. Seemed natural.
Individually speaking, I thought Zex was reading a bit too deep into Rox's posts (especially 47), but that could be the town presumptuousness. Liked how Zex got Lex's pov (53). Liked it coz it was exactly what I thought about Lex's post.
Have liked Lex's posts the most in the game so far. Logical, sorted, pushing the inactive slots, etc.
2 Xigbar: Mild townlean only coz of their valid and logical post 37.
12 Larxene: Her claim is pro-town. A scum invest-immune doesn't gain much by claiming, at such early stages. On the other hand, it's a weak town role if any, so if she is a scum invest-immune, she had to be a really audacious/even defensive player to claim so early. Clubbed with this however are other things that make her a stronger townlean for me. She dislikes 4 Vex and clears 10 Lux for exactly the same points that I found valid in Vex's and Lux's behaviour. Suggests logic at work.
Null:
3 Xaldin: There's nothing to analyse here.
10 Lux: I was scumreading Lux for fluffposting till I read his excel notes. No one goes to that extent as a scum. His notes serve as a good enough evidence for me to believe he is a town. But his other posts have been shaky. So, overall, null. Actually I wanna shift him to townlean. Will see what happens.
Scum:
4 Vexen: Vex's posts seem confident but the logic is haywire. Like the earlier post in 39 clearing 12 Larx.
8 Axel, 9 Demyx: Fluffs. Coasters.
11 Marluxia: I really didn't like their 77 where they are shading 10 Lux. Their points for shading Lux also are invalid acc to me. There's a possibility that I might be wrong about them, but I am not revealing the reason.
13 Roxas: Their 30 reads genuine where they want to be targeted, but otherwise everything they have posted so far is scummy. I don't like who they are presumptuous regarding clearing 12 Larx. I also didn't like their later posts where they are defending obv town and obv scum. It's circular and rhetorical. Why is Larx obvtown (68)? Coz they are obviously town? Really? Thought some worm was crawling inside my brain. Also, didn't like the way they have been defending their posts (69).- VII Saix
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It's not that strange considering it's just P5 and very little content, but I can arrange them in a hierarchy of sorts..
From Scumlean to Scum: Axel, Demyx < Vexen < Marluxia, Roxas.
Axel and Demyx are closer to the null pile coz there's nothing much to go by. Why are they not in null then? They have not contributed anything despite having the opportunity to do so. I could most likely push them to the null pile, if they made more sense to me.
Marluxia and Roxas are at the top for the aforementioned reasons, but if I had to make a choice I will vote for Marluxia coz of Rox's semi-claim.
These are pretty prelim reads, so I am not ready for a vote yet.
The problematic parts of 69 were these:
The 1st and 3rd para are examples of circular logic.In post 69, XIII Roxas wrote:
How so? Larxene is in fact obviously town. Luxord is just scum. Those were the most apt descriptions to use. The terms were accurate. And, counter-question.In post 57, VI Zexion wrote:all I have right now is a pretty baseless post calling someone "obviously town" and someone else "just scum" (quote marks for precision not for mockery) on page 2 which are ridiculous positions to hold this early.
Why didn't you interact with my slot? You didn't bother to ask me why I held those stances. I am perfectly capable of explaining them (and in the case of Luxord I am actively doing so), yet you went in and did the very thing you were accusing me of.In post 57, VI Zexion wrote:There are no interactions with other slots.
This is a continued instance of not actually providing game content.In post 51, X Luxord wrote:VOTE: 6 Zex
As someone who has no flavor knowledge, all of the names are frustratingly similar.
When I said Luxord was "just scum", I meant it. Because this is not town.
The 2nd para is a bit of an over-reaction.
All 3 of the paras (and Rox's earlier responses) felt like uttered by an over-conscious or self-aware player. It's an observation that usually extra powerful roles are confident and don't get hassled this easily.- VII Saix
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Will ISO her tomorrow and get back to you. Late night here.In post 113, II Xigbar wrote:
Do you not get the impression that, regardless of their alignment, that they are an audacious/defensive player?In post 108, VII Saix wrote:12 Larxene: Her claim is pro-town. A scum invest-immune doesn't gain much by claiming, at such early stages. On the other hand, it's a weak town role if any, so if she is a scum invest-immune, she had to be a really audacious/even defensive player to claim so early. Clubbed with this however are other things that make her a stronger townlean for me. She dislikes 4 Vex and clears 10 Lux for exactly the same points that I found valid in Vex's and Lux's behaviour. Suggests logic at work.
What reasoning did she really give that wasn't just reiterations of stuff that other people had said?- VII Saix
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Axel, you are essentially omgus-ing coz there's no reason accompanying your vote.
Why am I likely to be a scum is the reasoning I am looking for. Otherwise, it's a lazy vote and doesn't help the game in any way. If you really think I am scum, the motivation needs to be to take me to L, and you aren't gonna achieve that with this post and such a vote.
I ISO'd you after your suggestion that you have contributed enough. So in a nutshell here's you in the game so far. 7 posts so far. Your behaviour is quite suspicious in following ways.
- You have had no original thought till now in the game. You are responding to questions, or you are asking others some questions or you are responding to someone's vote or a post or an interaction by giving a verdict (case in point: all your posts exemplify this to a lesser or greater extent). This isn't what a townie looks like to me. Of course it's likely you are still finding your feet and you are under pressure to produce content even as a town, but right now you are coming across as a newb scum who doesn't know how to assimilate himself in the game.
- Expanding on this, if you give a verdict, I wanna know the reason behind it. Analysis rather than verdicts. For example, if you enjoy Marl's posts for their content, I wanna know what appealed to you and why. If you think Xig-Rox is tvt, why?
- Some of your reads are so conflicting with mine that I am compelled to question your thought process. I understand having an opposite view doesn't necessarily make you a scum for me, but coupled with unsubstantiated reads, it comes across as way too off. Like your reason for voting Zex and giving a reason for that as lack of progression of thought disturbs me on two levels. First, I don't understand what you mean by 'progression of thought' and you don't elaborate it, and second, how is 'progression of thought' then reflected in your posts if that's what you are expecting from others.
I guess I am saying the same thing in three different ways. So here's the concise point. You need to do 3 things. 1. elaborate your posts, 2. give a reason for your verdicts, and 3. your expectations from others need to reflect in your own playstyle.- VII Saix
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It's tiring to keep asking people for explaining their statements.
People, I don't have the key to your thoughts. It literally takes just one additional sentence to explain what you are saying.
For ex., Luxord's "I think Axel's OMGUS is definitely not scummy, and maybe even a tiny bit towny." should definitely come with a footnote. And so should a lot of other statements of other players. If you are a town and people are to understand you, you should care about this. Don't use your brevity at the wrong place.- VII Saix
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If you are highlighting the time frame of 11 days here, I think it's just the way of looking at it from two different positions. I see this as a week gone rather than 11 days remaining.In post 304, VIII Axel wrote:In post 303, VII Saix wrote:Who is opposed to Axel lynch and why?In post 144, VII Saix wrote:If you really think I am scum, the motivation needs to be to take me to L, and you aren't gonna achieve that with this post and such a vote.
11 days to deadline.In post 303, VII Saix wrote:This decision can't happen closer to the deadline.
Tell me right now what town player actually worries about getting acertainlynch - rather thanAlynch - 11 days before the deadline.
If you are highlighting the 'certain vs a' point, either I haven't understood what you are saying or you are not privy to how I think. I don't understand why a scum would vote for a specific player. A scum will be happy lynching anyone. A townie on the other hand will always vote for a specific player based on their suspicions. So, I don't see your point at all.
About scumreading you: I have already given my reasons for this, which were mild/weak then, but they have only got stronger. You are openly coasting and fluffing. There's literally no content in your posts (don't feel offended, but I have to be honest). Add to that your reasoning for scumreading me which seems more like retaliatory than substantive. In fact, the only doubt in my mind right now is whether a scum will be so openly casual in their approach. But I have burnt my fingers enough times second-guessing myself. If I have to read you as a town, it will be based only on how much efforts you put in, and not based on your lack of effort.- VII Saix
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Efforts in terms of posts could be NAI, but efforts in terms of scumhunting is very much AI.In post 311, IV Vexen wrote:
VOTE: Saix
I really feel like quoting goodmorning here, but Effort is NAI.
You are contradicting yourself here. How is your vote on me any different from my vote on Axel? All that you have summarised is wrong with my tunnel on Axel is also wrong with your tunnel and vote on me.In post 311, IV Vexen wrote: The fact is that you're saying you're tunneled on Axel because fluffposting and lack of effort while I see nothing to suggest you're actually looking for motivations. This is at best lazy posting, and at worst posting actively looking to slip under the radar. You haven't said ANYTHING about anyone not named Axel since page five, and the amount of certainty compared to the 'evidence' on Axel is frankly garbo.
Convince me Axel's scum, cause your 144 just seems like a big ball of nulltells on Axel and hypocrisy from you, and I'm not seeing a more cohesive case from you.
What's worrying is that you are not able to see how whatever you have wrote as a case on me
- is also wrong with Axel (in your words - "fluffposting, lack of effort, lazy posting, posting actively, certainty compared to evidence", etc.), and,
- is also wrong with you (if my vote on Axel is bad, so is your vote on me, coz there's nothing in that post and vote that you are seeking from me. In your words, "hypocrisy and lack of a cohesive case on someone".
I am guessing you are going along with certain convictions/instincts as town (if you are one) with your vote on me despite not having a case on me. So am I in case of Axel.- VII Saix
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I wasn't suggesting lynching right away, but to create a consensus around it. The game had stalled and needed some shaking up.In post 314, XI Marluxia wrote:Saix has a point in that we've all been fucking out for pretty much the entirety of the day; don't quite understand why he feels that slamming through a lynch now as opposed to better decreases our chances of mislynching somehow.
There are 6 lynch contenders or even more, so it's gonna take us time to sort it out. Especially this day when we need 7 votes for L. 11 days seem a lot but will be gone swiftly.- VII Saix
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Did you ask me about my opinion on them? I missed that. I will need to ISO them.In post 315, XI Marluxia wrote:Although, Saix, if you're so concerned about the looming deadline, why haven't you given an opinion on Xaldin yet?- VII Saix
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1. Let's not drag MS's quality into it. It's immaterial right now.In post 320, IV Vexen wrote:
What case on you? If saying your push on Axel is hot garbo amounts to a case now, than ms has reeeeally gone downhill.In post 317, VII Saix wrote:What's worrying is that you are not able to see how whatever you have wrote as a case on me
- is also wrong with Axel (in your words - "fluffposting, lack of effort, lazy posting, posting actively, certainty compared to evidence", etc.), and,
- is also wrong with you (if my vote on Axel is bad, so is your vote on me, coz there's nothing in that post and vote that you are seeking from me. In your words, "hypocrisy and lack of a cohesive case on someone".
2. How is your behaviour any different from mine, Vex?In post 320, IV Vexen wrote:
As far as why that's probably scum coming from you over scum coming from Axel: You're saying it's likely to be scum. That, right there, is the rub. You clearly think the behavior that you as scum are doing is scummy. And you're trying to push a lynch through based on that behavior. It's not the fluffposting that I see as a problem.
You do not a hell lot on me and yet you voted for me. But for voting for me, you give a reason that I voted for someone on whom I didn't have much to begin with.
Do you see the contradiction now?
3. In your post 1, you vote for me and give a weak reason. Then I say something in response to that. In your post 2, instead of justifying your vote and weak reason you have on me from your post 1, you start talking about my response post, which has chronologically come after your vote. I would like to hear what made you vote for me in the first place, without using the crutches of the scumminess I display in my response post - which has come after you voted - to justify your vote. Scums do this very often. They project their suspicions on X, X says something in response to that, and the scum uses these subsequent response posts to justify their original suspicion. I won't let that happen to me this game.
4. If you don't have the foggiest, maybe you should ISO them and me and read our interactions. But just to give you a summary, I posted a wall of reads in which I mentioned Axel as scumlean, following which Axel erupted and omgused. Even after the repeated suggestion to him to improve his game, from me and from others, there wasn't much content in their posts. They are questioning and responding, but where are their reads about the game, except about their read on me, which has no content but just omgus kind of tone.In post 320, IV Vexen wrote:As far as Axel's alignment goes, I haven't the foggiest. That's pretty much the reason I asked you why you were voting him in 306, which I'd still like you to respond to, btw. I just feel that your overconfidence, hypocrisy, and dismissal of literally every other player you have to read is probably scum. I'm adding the tu quoque, loaded question, and fact you ignored me until I suspected you to the list of reasons your role pm is red as well, btw.
Yes, I do not have much on Axel right now, but it's all relative judgement anyway, especially on D1. Right now, even if I have less on Axel than necessary, it's the max I have on anyone, so I have gone ahead with my suspicions. I asked openly about deadline and lynching Axel coz I wanna know how much traction there is for that lynch. If not, I will need to focus on my second most suspicious person in the hierarchy.
5. My 'overconfidence, hypocrisy and dismissal of other players' are your perceptions. It doesn't matter what you think of me, but since we are playing a game and are hopefully on the same side, I just wanna say that you read me wrongly.- VII Saix
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Vexen, wanna confirm that I have read your post. I would have replied back, but I don't think this is gonna go anywhere. We are not only on different pages, we are in different books. You go look for your story, and I will look for mine.
Your slot was already on my scum lean list, and it's only gone up by your recent burst of excitement.- VII Saix
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Zex, kinda disappointed with your conversation with Xig about me, but never mind. I am sure you have your reasons for doubting me, but I thought there was some kinda mutual town block thing happening between us.
About Vex, I was already scum-reading his slot. The he replaced and somehow tracked me down for a one-on-one with Axel because of my post on Axel. There are a number of reasons that pinged me badly, but the worst were the following, which I have already outlined in my interactions with him. But here's the gist.
1. he found my lack of a case on Axel as a good enough reason to vote for me, but he himself never provided a good enough reason for placing his vote on me. All that he said about me could also be said about Vex's reasons about scumreading me. I don't buy his explanation regarding he was reaction-testing me initially but then my reaction actually made him vote for me. I think he wanted to make a splash with his entry and my post happened to be around the corner for him to bump into, and he took it off from there.
2. Axel is worst of between me and him (Axel) if it came to deciding where to put his vote. For someone to disregard that and say that they don't have a clue on Axel's slot, but they have a clue abt me without reading what happened in the game before they entered, is a bit much. It tells me that they have probably made up their opinion how they want to go ahead with their interaction with me.
3. I have already said that because my posts are a certain way, scum usually find it easy to target me. What usually happens is they say something provocative, and I react to that provocation, and then instead of justifying their reasons behind the provocation, they start using my reaction as a justification. This is wrong coz they are changing the chronology of the narrative. This has happened a lot with me, and scums usually do that, coz frankly it's way too tempting. So, instead of defending myself, I have learnt to put this reason out there the first time I sense it. So that this doesn't spiral out of control, and I can save my slot the moment I see it going downhill. Coz the longer you wait hoping that either that person sees reason or coz someone else will see how the narrative is being changed, the narrative has already been changed. In that changed narrative, it starts appearing like my slot is fighting tooth and nail and defending way too much.
To summarise, Vex's behaviour in that interaction was scummy coz he was way too rigid about his stance on me (and without reasons) and way too cavalier about Axel, and he couldn't see how that was contradictory.
Marluxia, I ISO'd Xaldin. There's absolutely nothing to say. That slot has done nothing. He isn't even making an effort. There are only a few detailed posts, but these posts are mostly centred around himself, how others' votes on him are opportunistic, etc (e.g. 219). I dont like that. But I would like to give him some more time.- VII Saix
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Mod, possible to please disregard posts such as these and prod Xemnas? it's between more than 48 hours since their penultimate post and even that was content-wise zilch.
If someone is a conf town, they better be more active and involved. This slot is idle.- VII Saix
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Luxord, you are voting me coz I "..come off with this air of confidence but there's always this self doubt"... but how can I ever be sure? It's D1 and anyway I am not an investigative role. So, my confidence levels will never be 100% in this game regarding a slot.
To everyone, if you are town, I expect you to provide reasons along with the read so that I can better defend myself. If you are not gonna do that, that's deliberately vague coz it gives me no space to defend myself.- VII Saix
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In case you have figured out my identity and you are referring to that specific game where your trust in my slot was unfounded, I must say I am really really sorry for that game, and I felt guilty long after that. I take this as a compliment though that I can screw up with someone as good and experienced a player as you. Except in here, coz here I am not even trying to do that, and here it might turn out to be a liability.In post 398, VI Zexion wrote:I feel like Saix is one of those reads that I'm always going to get wrong because I always underestimate him and always want to like him and that makes everything screwy for me.
I think you should stop second guessing yourself, and go with what you feel is correct intuitively. I would suggest even if your choice is to vote for me, that's fine.- VII Saix
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Well, all I can say is that I don't fit into the generic mould you have set for a scum.In post 395, II Xigbar wrote:
This is very much something that you see scum say about a wagoned scumbuddy when they don't want to bus.In post 361, VII Saix wrote:I ISO'd Xaldin. There's absolutely nothing to say. That slot has done nothing. He isn't even making an effort. There are only a few detailed posts, but these posts are mostly centred around himself, how others' votes on him are opportunistic, etc (e.g. 219). I dont like that. But I would like to give him some more time.
And the question of bussing Xaldin doesn't even arise when I have better scumtells on Axel and Vex. With Xaldin's current profile, I will not vote for them even if he is at L-1 and we go into night with no lynch. I am very stubborn that way. I cannot propagate your version of this game. I will not get into herd mentality despite having no reads on them. I will only try to gather support for my version of the game (hence, the open question regarding Axel lynch), and maybe support only those lynches which I am scumleaning on. If that's scummy, so be it.- VII Saix
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Just for the record, new!Lux are quite a scumbum. Scumlean on them. I didn't like their interaction with me.In post 412, II Xigbar wrote:Zexion, go through new!Luxord's progression on myself and the Xaldin slot.- VII Saix
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Zex (and everyone else who can heed to reason), you need to unvote Xaldin. The readiness with which their wagon has escalated shold tell you something about them. This has happened post Axel's wagon derailing, and I think the scums have jumped on Xald's wagon and accelerated it. You need to get your vote off, buddy.
Xald is unsatisfactory, but not actually scummy. Or even if scummy, less so than Axel. Stick to your vote in the end if it leads to no lynch, or even if Xald doesn't perform. But it really is coming across as PL for a lacklustre performance rather than actual scumminess on Xald's part.- VII Saix
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Sorry, i have done this before (voting for someone coz my townread asked me to) and repented. I don't have enough reason to vote against him, so, no. The only reason i will vote for him is if we are in danger of going to no lynch or if he does something scummy.In post 555, VI Zexion wrote:Saïx I think your read on Xaldin is pretty genuine but you've got it backwards; wagon speed isn't a good indicator in this case; let live and be free, come join me on this ~wagon of glory~ <3
In the meanwhile, possible for you to come back on axel? Why did you leave when you find him scummy?Last edited by Heartless on Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:42 am, edited 1 time in total.- VII Saix
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coz it's not deadline yet. we have 3 more days.In post 576, II Xigbar wrote:................why?- VII Saix
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What am I missing? Why is it likely that scum get a gladiator this time around? Are you basing this statement on probability? Coz that would be misguided with just 2 events, which are independent.In post 577, VI Zexion wrote:
Yeah town had a gladiator in TTH's last game it makes a lot of sense that scum would get one this time around; looking forward to the wall war motherfucker. Like the way you were posturing around me being town was just super weak, I'm glad you claimed because at least now I know you've lost this game since even if you somehow manage to lynch me tomorrow (and I haven't been lynched in I don't know how long) then you're gone day 3 and scumbud B the day after.In post 569, II Xigbar wrote:Lol okay Xemnas.
Claim (in part) novice gladiator
No one investigate zexion because I will Lynch someone who claims an innocent on her. Have the 1v1 you want then zex
@Vexenbasically it's rolemadness + he's not posting + yeah I'm an impatient one.
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Think what you bloody achieved by that double vote then, given their claim. This is exactly what I meant by not doing things in a hurry. Don't worry about getting killed tonight. The scum will keep you around. And pounce on you tomorrow. And you would have deserved it.In post 584, XIII Roxas wrote:
It's not a fucking charade; I legit have a double-vote and the mods checked in (albeit only with a prod) so they should be ending the day and I don't understand why they haven't.In post 575, VII Saix wrote:Rox, what was the point of the charade?
I'll ping them.
That, or you are a scum.
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Why didn't you claim before, you dummy? What were you waiting for? If someone would block you, it would still help the town by engaging the blocker.In post 587, III Xaldin wrote:
They are sheeping xig in all hoenstyIn post 582, VII Saix wrote:I have decided long back that I am not gonna do the suspects' work for them by defending them. So, Xaldin you need to rescue yourself. But everyone who is voting for them should ISO them rather than voting based on impressions. This is the least a town should be doing.
If this is twilight, the investigative roles should target Axel or me in the night. We were the wagons and it's better to confirm/rule it out. Or, target Zex or Vex. It's better to have an active Conftown. With all due respect, Xemnas is useless.- VII Saix
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In post 715, II Xigbar wrote:If you're trying to fight an Axel lynch and they flip scum you are guaranteeing your lynch at some point in the game. Regardless of your alignment just vote.
That's what's called arm twisting.In post 716, II Xigbar wrote:Erm. Luxord lynch. You know what it is.
If I have to go by this logic, same goes true for you if Axel turns scum. And that's a stupid logic. At L-2, scumpartners will be running to be on the wagon. Not resisting it.
In any case, feel free to lynch me tomorrow whatever be the outcome today. You will surely find a lot of support.- VII Saix
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Seriously, what's going on!In post 825, II Xigbar wrote:If you don't vote Larxene we'll lynch you regardless of your claim. Your claim doesn't confirm you as town, sorry.
So you think they could be scum, but still are voting elsewhere.
Could you give me a hierarchy of suspicion using signs > < =- VII Saix
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You must. You were pathetic in last 24 hours. It's sad to see how you have pocketed most of the town. If your alt-slip is anything to go by, you are playing just as you always do. You need to leave the game, yes, and by that I mean you need to be immediately lynched.
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I may not have as much credibility as you do in this game, so I can only try my best to lynch you. Axel is always gonna be there. But since I have a some idea regarding who you are, I know how incredibly manipulative you are. And so, you need to be lynched right now.- VII Saix
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Nope.In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=9569845#p9569845]post 882[/url], Radical Rat wrote:In post 874, VII Saix wrote:Mod, do scums have a day chat?
Was the scum PT open before the game began?
I think people need to realise that what Axel did (or didn't) do can't be proven. I would believe his claim only if the answers to both the questions above were negative.
So uh. The gif of Axel, the ability flavor title being a quote from Axel, and the "ground on fire" bit being one of Axel's powers in canon don't count as proof?
Coz wiping a night could still be a scum ability, and scum!Axel could have either done it himself or could have shared the message from his teammate if the scum pt is open throughout.
If he is a town, he is now effectively a vt. If he is a scum, he is a scum. He is useless to the game. Best to lynch him.- VII Saix
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Axel may have promised to skip the night, but anyone who has any night action would have still submitted their actions. Which is why I asked Xaldin about whom they tracked. Coz if Xaldin promises to be who he is, his night action gives me a clue to his thoughts.In post 924, IV Vexen wrote:
Or doesn't read your posts/the game at all enough to realize that no actions happened last night.In post 916, VIII Axel wrote:Can someone explain to me a world where Saix will tunnel down my throat for "not posting enough in-game content" but doesn't say shit about Marluxia other than calling him a SR once and forgetting about him the entire game?
If you keep throwing shade at me without understanding the intent, you are doing exactly what you are proclaiming to avoid. I will not be replacing, but I will not be interacting with you. Your name-calling in an earlier post was uncalled for, but this required quoting you.- VII Saix
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You are right.In post 976, III Xaldin wrote:Because as a tracker giving out that information to scum is a genius idea vexen.- VII Saix
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To salvage you insult on someone else, you end up insulting me. Wonderful. Anyway,In post 980, II Xigbar wrote:
Sorry, but the implication of this post is that fucking Saix and Xaldin can read me. It doesn't take you being a super invested player to realize that neither of them are skilled players nor has the scumread on me any merit. And no fuck you this is exactly what you said in our last game together to justify pushing on me and I find it incredibly unlikely that you wouldn't learn your lesson from last game when my slot was literally a totally free mislynch because people have a complete inability to deal with my slot in a rational manner.About the rest of that post, just because I can't read you doesn't mean no one else can. And even then, unless my memory is fucking with me like the strongman thing, I believe I misread Scum!you as Town!you far more than the other way around.
I might not be a skilled player, but I take solace in the fact that I do not feed my narcissism by insulting others.
How correct I am regarding you - only time will tell.
In the meanwhile, I did what you asked. I went and read some of your posts.
This is what I think:
You have been terrible at the end of D1 since the time you unvoted Axel and went after Larx without a shred of an evidence. All your points against them were of hearsay and unsubstantiated. You need to own up your mistakes rather than justifying those mistakes by whining about how no one sees your point.
Second reason: almost all your read and responses to other people's questions directed to you are based on your knowledge of their alts. You might be a maverick. But I still wouldn't care if you indulge into alts and their metas. It's not good enough for me.
You can keep crying and whining about a misdirected town as much as you want. Your behaviour throughout has been 'I know the best. Don't tell me what to do'. But then don't blame the town for attaching as much value to your opinion as they attach to the dust on the floor. You have been trying hard to control the gamestate, but you do not have very good convincing powers, which is why the town doesn't see your pov.- VII Saix
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I agree with you about Axel's power, but I don't agree with you regarding the position of Vex as coming from a likely partner. They are individually scummy, but Vex is infinitely less scummier than Axel and I don't think Vex and Ax could be partners. To make my sentence more fine tuned, I would say, if Axel flips scum, I would be sure that Vex is town. But in case of any of the other three scenarios regarding one of them (Axel flips town, Vex flips scum, Vex flips town), I couldn't draw inference about the other person. - VII Saix
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