Mini Normal 1948: BooneyToonz V - The Boon 'N Bed Express!

[Mumble]

Please tell me that's not going to be a thing the entire game

[Mumble]

Seems like a thing. Since deadline is only 2 days away, I must

VOTE: Mumble

Haha, I put 2 days instead of 2 weeks. My bad. Fixed.

[Mumble]

Reprieve!

VOTE: sergtacos

[Mumble]

Someone didn't read the rules.

I'm talking about the person who posted directly above me

[Mumble]

Where do you see the deadline is in 2 days?

It was a joke. Mod forgot to change the deadline in the vote post.

He has done so now.

[Mumble]

So, wait, obviously your fake mod insert was you, but was the follow up response in the next post actually the mod?

I'm confused.

[Mumble]

i didnt even look, posted, then looked at the vc afterwards

Why did you vote without looking at the vote count first?

Or at least counting the votes?

[Mumble]

oh yeah btw hardclaim mason with mulch

Why did you claim? You're supposed to wait until you have intent on you.

[Mumble]

I don't see the benefit to doing that when it was done.

[Mumble]

oh yeah btw hardclaim mason with mulch

Why the fuck did you out it this early, I specifically told you not to do this what the fuck

If you were angry about it, why did you confirm it?

[Mumble]

tchill's probably town
mumble gutread scum
klazam and tacos possible partners

Do you want to answer my question?

[Mumble]

anyways it's pretty obvious i'm not actually masons with mulch, but mumble and taco's responses are pretty bad
tchill's response felt genuine which is why im townreading him

Do you want to answer my question?

[Mumble]

mumbler didn't even ask me a question, and suggest he votes me is kinda bad.

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Why lie again? You still haven't answered it.

Mumble btw. It's Mumble.

[Mumble]

Were not technically masons, idiots

Why are you playing along with it then?

Are you actually neighbors?

[Mumble]

@tacos oh no you got me -.-
@screenplay it's called a reaction test
@tchill i started discussion, which is good for town, now there's some associations for later and i caught 2 scum and you say my play is bad

I'm quite serious with this. If you don't answer my simple question in your next post, I am voting you.

[Mumble]

i obviously don't know if they are actually scum or not, but i scumread and in my eyes they are scum
@mumble what is the question

mumbler didn't even ask me a question, and suggest he votes me is kinda bad.

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Why lie again? You still haven't answered it.

Mumble btw. It's Mumble.

[Mumble]

I'm trying to catch up...so bear with me. Dunker has a guilty on Mulch, but that guilty might not be a guilty in a certain circumstance because dunker is not a regular cop. Dunker is scum because he could not have guilty on Mulch, but there is a claim that Dunker could make that would not make him scum. Both are refusing to fully claim.

So...there's the possibility that both are town and are just bashing each other based on two soft claims? Am I missing something?

[Mumble]

Mulch should full claim. If he doesn't, we lynch him. He flips town, we lynch Dunker.

[Mumble]

Why?

[Mumble]

If Mulch/Dunker are both town, the full claim clears it. If not, then we assume Mulch is scum based on the guilty. If the guilty turns out to be false, that means Dunker is scum.

That's simple logic.

[Mumble]

Full claim doesn't clear them...

Explain further, because Dunker said there is a claim that clears Mulch and Mulch said the same.

[Mumble]

Don't use my gif pls.

Don't think you can lay claim to that particular gif. One of my favorites.

I will be using it going forward now.

[Mumble]

How about this
You both have 10 minutes to write down a claim.
You guys both have to post it at the same time.
If there's more than like a 2 minute gap we'll call suspicions.

I'm for this.

[Mumble]

Or a shorter timeframe...

[Mumble]

Okay, due to the claims, I'm now starting to scumread Mumble. But I prefer Assmeble. We should just lynch Assemble.

Just vote Mumble. He expressed the possibility that Mulch and Dunker might both be town, then proposed lynching them both anyway.

Where did I propose lynching them both?

[Mumble]

I think you're forgetting the first part where I said they could clear each other, which is what has happened.

Did you forget?

[Mumble]

Mulch should full claim. If he doesn't, we lynch him. He flips town, we lynch Dunker.

Within five minutes and ten posts of you saying they might both be town.

You should follow up with 834.

Why didn't you?

[Mumble]

No answer?

[Mumble]

VOTE: Assemblerotws

If you can't answer why you cherry picked, you're scum.

[Mumble]

Because you were deliberately ignoring how without Carca's plan, one could just fakeclaim based off the other's post, which is something that both Mulch and Dunker had brought up repeatedly by that point and which Carca's plan was made specifically to prevent.

Gotcha. I was agreeing with other people on possibilities to clear both (which Carca agreed with, btw) prior to a plan that Carca established that made it completely valid and stopped TvT from ending up as the lynch. Yep. Totally something I would want to do as scum.

Valid reasoning, dude.

[Mumble]

Hold up. That role doesn't exist in the wiki at all. How can it be normal if there is no actual role?

1-shot BP, forced-grant commuter?

[Mumble]

I'm not caught up, but why are we claiming?

[Mumble]

I'm not caught up, but why are we claiming?

Catch up then.

Sure. You can wait until I read 20 pages then.

[Mumble]

Nah. I feel like being an ass because Tywin was. I'll be back after I've had a chance to read up.

[Mumble]

Actually, I'm not an ass, so...

VT.

Now, I'll read up.

[Mumble]

Don't see how I was being an ass but ok.

I'll help you out so you can understand going forward.

I asked for a quick sum up as to why we were claiming because there had been 20 pages of posts since I was last here.

Your response:

I'm not caught up, but why are we claiming?

Catch up then.

A helpful response:

We are claiming so that we can sort whos actually a pr and whos scum since we have 6 potential prs including sergtacos

[Mumble]

You would have a better understanding of the game if you read it yourself.

And I'm in the process of doing so. There's a different between a quick sum up and fully understanding. Regardless, it's not relevant to the game anymore, but maybe learn to be more helpful instead of so terse.

[Mumble]

whats the difference between a rolestopper and a roleblocker?

Roleblocker
Rolestopper

[Mumble]

Commute falls under the same category as Hide in the NAR.

[Mumble]

Is it normal to have 500 posts in a freaking day?

[Mumble]

Starting point for me if I want to catch up on relevant stuff?

[Mumble]

K

[Mumble]

^
Always has to be one.

[Mumble]

I don't like Fykus' "I'm a BP" > "I'm not a BP" > "Here's why I lied." thing.

I don't really like Theta either, and I think a lynch should be between them given the similar claims. Fykus is referencing the Boonie-game thing. Can someone help me understand that. I already get that he can have a role that is not in the Normal wiki, but why does that make Fykus' claim more believable?

[Mumble]

Because Fykus is the only one here that has claimed a non-normal role and no one has cc'ed him.

Does Boon always have a non-normal role, or are we speculating?

[Mumble]

Why Theta over Mulch?

Fykus, being the only non-normal in a Boon game, is probably town given no other non-normal claim. He's a commuterizer who also commutes himself when targeting scum. Mulch is an odd-night commuter.

Mulch/Fykus' roles are in conflict, as it doesn't make sense for two town commuting roles. We should lynch Mulch given the above.

[Mumble]

Your right mumble. HOWEVER theres a rolestopper claim - a role that can negate my action on someone. Why would town have one of these? Its more likely its a scum pr and as such we should lynch it first so that the rest of our prs can use their roles freely

Why wouldn't town have one? I can't find a logical reason to say, "No, town can't have a rolestopper."

However, there is an apparent contradiction in roles between you and Mulch. You have an, apparently, more believable role with Boon as the mod, so it makes sense to me to lynch Mulch.

[Mumble]

I mean, I'm expecting Mumble to hammer sometime soon here.

Again, I would prefer a Mulch lynch because there is a direct contradiction. Are you opposed to that?

[Mumble]

Fykus did claim after Mulch, so that is in his favour...

Who's favor? You listed two proper nouns, and then followed by a pronoun. Unclear.

[Mumble]

So, we should be lynching Mulch.

[Mumble]

I don't get it.

[Mumble]

Logically, everything points toward Mulch. Why does it have to be Theta first? There is a direct contradiction there; and, there is speculation with regard to Theta.

My thought is, if Mulch flips scum, lynch Theta. That makes more logical sense.

[Mumble]

Whatever

VOTE: Theta

[Mumble]

I've just skimmed through at this point, but why am I confirmed town?

[Mumble]

Main point outside of chip's play today that points to him being scum is how he handled the dunk thing, he wanted fykus to commute dunk, pushed for that so hard.

How does him pushing hard for Fykus to commute dunker make Chip scum? I don't see the connection.

[Mumble]

Can we not lynch yet? I haven't had time to read through everything yet, and we have plenty of time left.

[Mumble]

I have time tonight, so I promise a read through in the next hour and a half.

[Mumble]

Almost caught up now.

can we lynch someone else?

Who do you suggest?

[Mumble]

if maf kill chill we get a cop result from me

To be fair, we get a cop result or another town death if you choose to use your action.

[Mumble]

mumble anything left to say?

I'd like to hear Carcalilly's response to my question.

[Mumble]

From me?

[Mumble]

1. Dunkerdoodles
2. Tchill13
3. Klazam
4. Havo
5. Carcalilly ~ Chip Butty

I want to hear Carcalilly's alternative lynch.

[Mumble]

why is klaz higher than havo?

He's claimed a PR and Havo didn't

Yes, Klaz hasn't been on a single scum lynch, but he's drawn a lot of unnecessary attention to himself if scum with that claim (that's a bad Pr to claim as scum). Havo was on Theta, but not Mulch. Easy bussing that went wrong the next day.

Havo was on Serg, and Klaz wasn't.

[Mumble]

What's the explanation?

[Mumble]

i don't think you even posted on day 2 but wanted to lynch mulch before theta. this is hypocritical but you're cleared anyway.

You all lynched before I came to the thread...

[Mumble]

I don't get it. You say that the only way that Havo is scum is if he's on Mulch/Theta's team and then say "that makes absolutely NO sense" but don't explain.

[Mumble]

He didn't vote mulch?

[Mumble]

I wasn't here at all.

[Mumble]

You asked me why my reads are what they are, and that's why.

[Mumble]

What?

[Mumble]

I'm not sure why you are being antagonistic. You asked for me reads, and I gave them. You asked why, and I told you.

[Mumble]

Right, I just don't get why you weren't on it. Why did you let it roll without you?

[Mumble]

This is how Town should proceed -

Lynch Mulch first. If one is scum then both are.

Mulch claimed a role that is of no use to town
Theta' s role can be now that we've mass claimed.

If Mulch flips scum we lynch Theta next.
If Mulch flips Town. We have Theta and Fykus target
2 of the claimed VTs tonight.

That was before the Theta lynch though.

[Mumble]

Because I was on earlier in that day. I let everyone speak and before I got back on Mulch had been lynched.

That makes more sense.

[Mumble]

I don't scum read you so you can chill a bit in your response. Pushing someone hard without voting can easily be a scum tactic for this very reason. I do believe your reason for not voting though.

[Mumble]

I don't scum read you so you can chill a bit in your response. Pushing someone hard without voting can easily be a scum tactic for this very reason. I do believe your reason for not voting though.

This is directed toward Havo.

[Mumble]

Is everyone else?

[Mumble]

VOTE: Chip Butty

[Mumble]

Tchill got “No Result” on Mumbles.

How’s that possible?

If Mumbles was commuted by Fykus then Fykus should have commuted also. And lived.

Mulch was a Weak Doc meaning scum already had 1 role gunsmith wouldn’t detect.

Now there’s a second scum role not detectable by the gunsmith. WTH @ Boons.

Gunsmith gets "No gun" on Weak Doc, not "No Result." "No Result" is the result of something blocking the action. More to the point, why didn't you raise this issue prior to now?

[Mumble]

Was theta alive at the time that tchill investigated mumble? That's the only scenario that makes sense for him to be scum. The rest points at you...

Why didn't you guard Tchill last night?

[Mumble]

So if you’re Town and Fykus did commute you that lines up.

But that means Klazam is a role Gunsmith can’t read.

2 weak doctors for scum?

Options for Klazam being scum:

a. 2 weak doctors
b. 1 weak doctor and 1 traitor
c. 1 weak doctor and SK

a. is unlikely, but possible, I guess.
b. most likely of the scenarios
c. incredibly unlikely, as that would be a 2 scum team.

But again:

More to the point, why didn't you raise this issue prior to now?

[Mumble]

VOTE: havo

[Mumble]

gg everyone. I had fun.

Sorries to Boon for yelling at him via PM. I got a bit worked up.

[Mumble]

Tbf I didn’t intend to lurk it out. I had to go on a leave of absence twice and when I saw I was confirmed town I decided not to screw it up. Not sure why Boon was talking about replacing me in the dead thread since I told him I was without internet access.

[Mumble]

Can we not do this?