Open 697: Tit for Tat GAME OVER SCUM WINS!
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So who has done any scumhunting and what did he or she come up with, man?- Lang Buddha
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I glanced through your ISO and was like either I'm stupid or this guy didn't claim shit, man. Good to see it's not the former, ya-ya!In post 336, kunkstar7 wrote:@Lang Buddha: How do you feel about the claim from Kop and how do you think it reflects on wavemode considering the way wavemode ran him up hard?
Flubber, I really want to, man.- Lang Buddha
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And it's not even like someone spammed up the thread, you know? it's a beautiful thread, and I really want tor read it at some point, hmm?- Lang Buddha
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You mean this, or what, man?- Lang Buddha
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Everyone else calls him screenplay, man. Why do you have to make us look bad, eh?- Lang Buddha
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I like this guy, man. Even if he gets me lynched he's making it look good, alright? The drama is real, you know?In post 189, kunkstar7 wrote:My Commknight read hinges wholely on his followup to being pressed on the "slip" comment. (which I think I figured out, #35 shows he meant that he thought guyy's confusion was a slip. If that was it why the hell do you not just own it??) Commknight backpedals into "reaction" territory, claiming to have information based on the reaction, but we get nothing. Skips straight to trying to discuss setup, which is - guess this - not player related, so continuing the dodge here. Then the awful wagon analysis where he sets up a 50/50,but then proceeds to not even commit to it himself.- Lang Buddha
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For example, hmm?In post 208, Mulch wrote:I'm having a hard time this game trying to figure out exactly what to do with Screen's comment. I feel like there is a chance he's just a wolf, but tbh I do think it's best to consider it NAI and the fact that so many people pushed on it is so alarming. For everyone voting him: Do you follow their reasoning? Yes, I can follow it, and I think town and scum can easily jump on it as well. But...it's also just something that's so blatantly on the surface scummy that it's pathetically easy for scum to push it, which is why I'm wary of scum pushing on it for an easy push in lieu of actually scumhunting andfinding true allignment indicative things.- Lang Buddha
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The amount of shit this man can talk never ceases to amaze me.In post 146, CommKnight wrote:Set-up talk is very important, because we can make it potentially easier or harder for us in the long run.
The two back-up Rolecop is essentially useless. They can only find Mafia Rolecop (who needs to die before our Rolecop becomes active), Mafia Back-up Jailor, our Jailor and our Vigilante. Outing our jailor or vigilante isn't a wise move at all to do. So we'll just leave our back-up rolecop as an IC later on when claims need to happen.
That leaves us our two most useful roles being active. Jailor and Vigilante. Jailor should be active every single night, he can act both as a doctor and roleblocker. Don't go by a night without using the ability.
Then we got our Vigilante. I think we need to give them a green-light to green light to kill each night. Assuming we were to mislynch both days and vigilante were to misfire both days, then we'd have two days and nights. But I don't think we'd be that bad at hunting scum. We do however need to create a pool to shoot in each night and leave it to the Vigilante to decide who they believe is scum in that pool.
Also keep in mind Jailer that the back-up jailer will also be able to make the mafia night kills, so if you successfully block a kill one night, I suspect they will alternate who's firing to avoid your roleblock part. I'd say until mafia jailer is killed, do not ever out. It's important to keep them from protecting their own or even jailing our vigilante.
So I think what I'm saying...
- Vigilante, shoot every night.
- Jailer, be wary of mafia switching who makes the kill.
- Jailer, don't out yourself until mafia back-up is dead.
Anyway, I'll be back later tonight to discuss what I think of Kunk, but I believe we need to be serious about looking at Sesq/Wave for that 50/50. I will be placing my vote tonight.- Lang Buddha
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In post 142, CommKnight wrote:First off, LOL at people looking for only 2 scum pairings. There's 3 scum, this is an open set-up
He thinks he can nail the scumteam after 141 posts, man, is this guy for real, man, shit..- Lang Buddha
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Shit, man, this is pretty sexy though, and obviously town, man. Whoever voted him after this must be not paying attention or scum, ok?In post 142, CommKnight wrote:First off, LOL at people looking for only 2 scum pairings. There's 3 scum, this is an open set-up stop acting like a dumbass like you don't know something that is public information.
Now second, let's begin with the two major wagons.
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"What do they tell us?" you may ask. (One is that Screenplay is a secret double voter???) Well first of all they tell us 9/12 people were involved on the 2 wagons. I can believe 2 scum would be involved between the two, but one of them definitely tried to avoid the wagons and that is their mistake. Who avoided the wagons?
01. wavemode
05. Sesq
07. guyy
^ These 3 avoided the wagons. Now I think guyy is town, his slip was a false-flag to gain some intel, as well as his wagon in constructing this analysis. That means I believe there's 100% without a fucking doubt in my mind at least one scum between Sesq and wave, that's a 50/50 right there. There's no way in hell all 3 scum can be found between both wagons D1. One of them definitely avoided it and that's their mistake. But I'm also willing to say that not 2 scum would've avoided both wagons, which means the other would more than likely be town if we flip scum with a lynch.- Lang Buddha
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Ah yes, we have a someone who is too scummy to be scum here. Townread on Flubber, a-aha!In post 150, Flubbernugget wrote:VOTE: CommKnight
Guyy is still scum but CommKnight being unclear about his slip read will not go unpunished- Lang Buddha
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Now who was it who kept putting Comm and Flubber in the to-lynch pile, I can't remember, but there's our first scum who dies today by rope.- Lang Buddha
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Kunkstar, guyy and kop would be my pick for the scumteam, and we must lynch guyy if we hope to succeed in our endeavor to win this game and get me out of bragon debt in style.
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Kunkstar because he has a townread on Flubber, man, which nobody except me is allowed to have, man, lest it be scummy buddying, you know? Positioning himself on the opposite side of guyy and kop read-wise, man.- Lang Buddha
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Also yet another post from me in which I skip all the persuasion and just tell you to believe that what I've said is persuasive, man. It's about what you believe !!!! Hooo, that movie was so shit, man, fakk..- Lang Buddha
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I've read my predecessor's posts for townieness and the subsequent reactions to it, ah? What's wrong with that, eh?- Lang Buddha
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What asinine assumptions are you talking about, Mulch, man? Did you not replace out of a game and immediately into another? I think that's fucked up and I'm not going to PM you about it, alright?! I'm going to write it in the replacement thread for mods to remove, man, ya - ya
@ModCommKnight is gone and forgotten. Tis Lang maddafakkin Buddha now, man, eh?
If I'm going to get lynched today it is paramount for my vote to be on scum, man, and for the rest of town to win the game or else I'm stuck in debt probably forever so I repeat, who did some scumhunting and what did they come up with, hmm? Give me one alignment indicative something here, someone, anyone, ok, man?- Lang Buddha
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This is frustrating, man. On one hand pig, er.. sorry Kop Sounds like he's scum and he knows guyy is scum and that there's one more scum on the wagon, tja, but one would need to know pig, I mean Kop's personality and mood and proneness to fakking be cheeky like that, eh? on the other hand .. no wait, still on the first hand, man, still on the first, heh: no way any scum would be worried of bussing this early, you know. On the other hand, .. there's no other hand, man.. it's just weird someone would almost town-confirm someone for this, man.In post 100, Kop wrote:
This guyy wagon has built up far too quickly for my liking. It almost town confirms him to me in the manner how quickly it's getting to L-2.In post 83, WhemeStar wrote:
However if he did flip scum, this would obviously put my in a precarious position, but I just don't get a good feeling that slot is going to flip scum due to the nature of how quick it has gone up.
Question is, who is the opportunistic scum on that wagon, because there is zero way that wagon is all town.- Lang Buddha
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Should I vote Kop, man? shit.. Here I go
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Something I was pondering, well not exactly man, something that was there from time to time in the back of my head, what if scum are less interested in someone's alignment.. well that's for sure man, but what if that manifests itself in votes being cast on a person who has already seen some spotlight, and for good or bad did something to satiate that hunger for information for town, you know.. what if scum give themselves away by ignoring that satiation -- because they haven't had it in the first place, man, because they never had the curiosity -- and awkwardly stall the flow of information gathering from other players .. insisting on that initial player, eh? It makes sense for this to be AI, you know? But then I figured I must be scum because I kind of did this, you know, talking about guyy and whatnot, but I swear I'm town man, but maybe it works, the line of thought I mean, hmm?- Lang Buddha
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I mean look how instantly the guyy wagon disappeared completely man, and no one is bringing it back, except yours truly? I imagine scum would be all over reviving that juicy wagon if it happened to be on anyone else that a scumbuddy, don't you think?- Lang Buddha
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So if I'm willing to entertain this reasoning further it would make Raya and guy prime suspects, and someone who kept off the wagon to park his vote on the second most lynchbaitiest player.. my predecessor, Comm fakkin Knight, man.. fakking kunksta7, ya-ya.- Lang Buddha
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Reasons?In post 426, Srceenplay wrote:
I agree with this.In post 424, kunkstar7 wrote:
Alright, as much as I really don't want to keep Lang around for another day Tywin seems to be the stronger wagon, it's too close to deadline to keep this split:In post 423, Mulch wrote:Let's lynch Tywin
Vote: TywinL.
VOTE: Twyin
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Fluffy posts like this are cancer at this stage, man.In post 425, Mulch wrote:Twyin is at L-2, Screen is at L-4. As far as I can tell. I hope we get a lynch off before day ends- Lang Buddha
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What's in it for me, man?In post 411, Flubbernugget wrote:Screen is viable what are you doing- Lang Buddha
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Never mind. My reads are probably shit, and Tywin might be scum so hammertime
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Probably should've waited out a claim, hahaha- Lang Buddha
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If I hadn't hammered I would've died for sure, man, with everyone scumreading Comm and giving 0 fucks about what I had to say, ya-ya. Town self-preservation ftw, hmm? That being said what I did was foolish and stupid, man- Lang Buddha
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but phuck yess 2.7 juicy bragons in my pocket, man. I'm just sad they took Raya away from us at a time where it could've been much more, but she's good; if you get nightkilled on n1 half of your buy-in is returned, so that's 1.3 permanent loot for her, unless we lose in which case it's -0.3 like I have now until this game concludes, man, but I don't think we'll lose, hmm?
Screen, I don't condone info that should be strictly your fakking son's prerogative -- as a mod -- to leak to you, man, as a player in the game he mods, alright? In fact we should policy lynch you, eh?
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as the late TywinL used to say
Regardless, ahh, if there should ever be a time where someone has to decide between me and screen it should be a no-brainer, you know.- Lang Buddha
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In post 457, Lang Buddha wrote:Screen, I don't condone info that should be strictly your fakking son's prerogative -- as a mod -- to leak to you, man, as a player in the game he mods, alright?How did you know I wanted to replace into what is now Mulch's slot?
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You better not be lying, Whemeaddafakka, alright?- Lang Buddha
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Care to provide evidence to support your dumb claim, man?
My lynch was inevitable, but I fakking uninevitabled it, man.
This was what was going on in the thread two pages before the lynch:In post 395, TywinL wrote:Nothing has really happened...
I'm willing to lynch Smoothblue, Srceen, Mulch or's slot today.CommKnight
Those of you who do not scum read any of these people, why do you not scum read them?In post 397, kunkstar7 wrote:Basically a prod dodge right now, lot's of IRL work at the moment. So much to say about how much I dislike Lang's entrance but it'll have to wait. Please let's just lynch's slot and call it a day.CommknightIn post 402, Raya36 wrote:I would prefer aor Tywin lynch. I really would like to hear more from Comm so I would ideally like to lynch Tywin but I am willing to switch toCommif people want to lynch there.Comm
WTF u mean Tywin's lynch was inevitable, eh? This was 99.9% set out to be an eating rope contest with all other contestants having their mouth sewn shut, man. Look at the fucking setup, man.In post 422, Flubbernugget wrote:Lang
Your voteas hell and is pushing towards no lynchis scummy
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Not to mention there were 2 more days till deadline, maddafakka- Lang Buddha
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Kop, you sure that's how you wanna play this, man? If so you might as well claim now, eh? Because I just fakking quoted those maddafakkin posts and there's no way someone can tell me what you told me without lying, being stupid or tl;dr, man.
Also mass-claiming now will give us a huge advantage. Think it through, and then signal your cooperation or lack thereof, by using the hurt tag on Kop and the hurt2 tag on Kop, respectively, hmm? No debate, alright?
HURT: Kop- Lang Buddha
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@AllIn case it wasn't clear I'm asking everyone if they're willing to mass-claim, you know? Also link me 3 town games and a scum game, preferably with an unsophisticated and balanced 9-15p setup, man.
@Kop Ya ya. Those 6 + you would've just magically ignored that they just equivocally started singing the song of my demise to each other, and all of the wildcards would've rushed to my aid, while the two scumbuddies were going to keep everyone's conviction to follow the course of the most disastrous of outcomes unchallenged, ya ya. Strong shit you're smoking, eh?- Lang Buddha
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I say let's not debate it, what do they do, man? Let's put it to a vote, man..- Lang Buddha
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Ya ya, man. We best let the Vig kill the Jailkeeper who jails the Rolecop, man. Good good. Because "the Rolecop could clear the goon"?!In post 491, Kop wrote:
At this point in time, it's pointless discussing it unless we get rid of the goon.In post 490, Srceenplay wrote:
So we don't gain much but lose a lot.In post 488, Kop wrote:
Rolecop could also clear the goon.In post 487, Srceenplay wrote:7-2
We could get 3 town clears with a mass claim.
That would leave 6 VT claims we lynch from.
If we miss we potentially lose jailor if he doesn't bloke kill.
Role cop could give us a potential clear or guilty from the VT pool.
It's a tough decision. It would help us by pointing us in the right direction but it gives scum all the information they need.
So we're at 1 HURT: Kop & 2 HURT WITH A BLADE: Kop + wtf tier stupid defiance of the no-debate request, eh? or what, man.- Lang Buddha
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VOTE: Flubbernugger
There's nothing to catch up on.- Lang Buddha
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This is actually a decent standardizable capcha-type bouncer question to keep dumbasses from signing up to games with you: "In a 12p tit-for-tat open setup (link to setup) the mafia rolecop gets lynched day 1, hammered 1 and a half days prematurely by a universally scumread player. Mafia nk goes through and so does a vig kill on a VT.- Why would mass-claiming be the optimal thing for town to do?
- Nobody proposed a mass-claim yet. How do you proceed to achieve it providing minimal PR hunting material for scum, in case for some reason the motion doesn't pass
Answer to number one is: "3 players become innocent children. 3 IC 4 VT vs quasi-goon scum is imbalanced for town. Should the lynch land on a VT, scum will most likely kill the jailkeeper to defend from the vig and block the rolecop next nightphase, which leaves the rolecop free to attempt to find the backup rolecop, having a chance of 20%, equivalent to a 5p town including a cop vs a NKless quasi-goon nightstart, which is ridiculously imbalanced for town. Suppose the rolecop gets a vanilla result, and the vig shoots a vt, it's a 2 IC and 2 VT vs 2 scum dayphase. In case another VT gets lynched, which would be holy pussyfarting fuck fucking difficult to achieve being this unlucky, the vig gets blocked and the rolecop gets nked, so it'll be a 1 IC and 2 VT vs 2 scum dayphase, where it's next to impossible for town not to lynch scum for the love of god, maybe even the goddamn mafia jailkeeper, so the vig can end this shit once and for all that night, when he has 3 players to choose from. If he still fucks up, that's a 2VT vs 1 scum lylo. If town doesn't claim, and even worse they started debating claiming whereby some might have given themselves away and scum get a good educated guess off on who the PR is, if he vig shoots the jailkeeper who blocks the rolecop and scum kill the jailkeeper, first off they get to challenge the rolecop's and vig's claims with fakeclaims of their own, making the outcome of mislynching a town PR possibe' so no more innocent children, just a 5 town vs 2 scum dayphase, which is, guess what, scum favored.."- Lang Buddha
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I voted HURT: Kop, man. It is now 3 HURT: Kop to 3 HURT WITH A BLADE: Kop, eh?
Best case night scenario is of course jailkeeper blocks the kill on himself and Vig shoots the other scum, eh? made much more likely by the claims, you know. Furthermore we would take into consideration who the jk jailed, man, and who the rolecop checked last night, since it's 50% less probable those targets were scum, alright?
I don't see how this is not basic common sense, eh? and we should be done with this so we can start focusing on listing all the AI stuff we've found, hmm? and compromize for a lynch, and find a reasonable way for the PRs not to use their actions on the same targets, man.
I'm still waiting on everyone to link me what I've asked for, so I can look at your success at voting for scum EoD as town and instigating mislynches as scum, aaah, just to get a statistical impression. At no time should this make you feel prohibited from trying to take steps towards solving the game yourself.- Lang Buddha
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It's a good setup, man, I like it, hmm?
The one role scum should never have allowed to die got lynched day 1. The vig took a huge risk and unwillingly reduced the fakking amount of lynch and PR night action candidates. Frankly, if every maddafakking town would've just kept the fakk quiet and fakking waited for scumfakx to vote against- or protest, the game could have ended already, you know? because the only way scum can hope to win is to sabotage this, ok?
I hammered the rolecop in a way that makes me obvtown, even, alright, eh? Get it through your faces into your heads, man. Mulch wasn't going to keep on Tywin and away from me for long, so that makes her a bussing candidate, I just tell it how it is, alright? Some of the voters didn't even provide reasons, so what they have in common with Mulch is that they could've very easily retracted their vote from Tywin, and would've been ridiculously stupid not to do so if scum, they just didn't figure I'd hammer so quickly without waiting out a claim from him, man, it's that simple. I'm VT so in a way you could say I'm the 4 IC. Now let's hear those claims for fucks sake, man.- Lang Buddha
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Troll game, and you're a troll.In post 579, Srceenplay wrote:Lang needs explaing before being hammered by anyone.
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Nobody lynches anyone with 12 days to go- Lang Buddha
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VOTE: Ironstove
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If you lynch me you get dunce tattoos. Anyone who doesn't get their license should not be allowed to play with me, but someone with a town role who actively goes against common sense like this, after I make efforts to lay it all out for 5 yolds to grasp ezpzly, and fakking advocates my lynch like this should get a permanent stigma in my book/speakeasy thread.- Lang Buddha
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So you're saying you're not the vig, which is great for scum to know, man, but still lobby against the mass claim, hmm? despite you clearly thinking the vig might be an idiot and a threat to himself and others, man?! Would you be this stupid as town? We don't need you around if you are, you know?In post 585, ironstove wrote:Another note to the vig: Even though I can understand the reasoning behind why smooth blue might have been shot, I don't think it was a good kill. Shooting players because you 'think or suspect' they might be scum rather than have a strong confidence in your read will greatly hurt town. In such a situation, it is better to forgo shooting that night and try to gather more information before you make a decision.
Anyway, think hard before you decide to take another shot tonight because we're currently at 7:2 and if you miss your shot again, it will be 4:2 MYLO if you get night killed.- Lang Buddha
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Let me put things in perspective.
Language is a key aspect in picking up sexy beautiful women, man. Tis why male birds go out of their way to assimilate the correct form that will get them to score, and interact in it exactly right, eh? judging by the fact that they actually listen to their fathers which nobody likes to do, you know? These are the things we share with animals, and for millennia fatherless children had to learn these things from nature.
Back in the old days if there wasn't enough science the lords would instigate wars with the sole purpose of leaving children fatherless, hmm? and keep a close eye on their findings in a controlled environment like a Shaolin order, so the ultimate victor maddafakka of the war, the emperor, could spread that science selectively, man. It's sad but this is how society breathes across a millennial timelapse, ya-ya?
The fatherless who didn't contribute useful science, but had an entertaining way of trying nevertheless, were thought impure forms of language, so the female children could still interact with them for the sake of entertainment, you know? but be able to discriminate against them with regard to courting attempts, man.
Undesirables were provided with languages so impure and devoid of intelligence-enabling elements that they could never rise to a level greater than a mindless soldier, whereas the females who disregarded the court conduct matrix of the emperor became the whores that could only hope to get pregnant by the strongest of soldiers, or else risk getting raped, beaten and humiliated further down into abysmal social ranks.
Pretty much exactly what's happening today, judging by the many languages and dialects existent in a relatively small region, and the forces that be, making it extra difficult to master them, man, with the lack of a convenient phonetic alphabet and the lack of polyglot translation clubs, hmm?
The easiest way to learn a language is write something and have it translated and narrated to you, preferably in two ways, man, high and colloquial forms, you know? maybe throw in some cultural reference, slang or meme, eh? to keep it spicy. But nooo, learning a language has to be torture, man, and the groups of people with the most intimidating military have to be indoctrinated to feel as though it's their prerogative to feel like the form of language they natively speak should serve as a passport to make them feel at home anywhere, eh? a local in a foreign country, so they never have to be subjected to what is perceived as torture nor the disadvantages of ignorance and stigmatizing form, yet still get to pick up the sexy beautiful women, threatening to turn the whole world into a whore house, man.
This has happened many times in confined areas of China, in some of which the most diplomatic of whores reached out to each other to form a coven, and conduct language experiments, persuading their warchief husbands to have mercy on the scholars so they could gather a basis for forming their own orders with the goal of subjugating and squeezing out fatherless children for their scientific and creative potential, and so the cycle propels itself and it comes to war once there's one supreme ruler and not enough science to provide a lavish and comfortable life for those he perceives as threatening to him. The unspeakable parasite I referenced in my bars lives on, man, and it's the emperor's paranoia that feeds it.
Aahhh, oh and sometimes large groups of people get singled out for elimination or at least stigmatization. The most elegant of ways to stigmatize them is to estrange them from their fathers, and reverse the pronunciation of the language, so their written and spoken language becomes the opposite or reversed form of the functional one. It takes centuries of critical thinking to recover from this if at all, and most never conceptualize the reason for their degradation and discrimination manifested in daily life by seemingly irrational negativity, force exertion and humiliation against them, so the only light they see is through a small window representing the path towards becoming a warrior, which the powers that be can divert into military if the parasite is strong with them. They fight until they can mimicry being favored by the system, and even make believe stigmas in the language form of those who are not stigmatized. If they manage to gain the numbers and momentum to push through this pseudo-stigma inception.. well that's a scum victory in a bastard setup, ya-ya.
So once it's set and done, and the women belong to somebody, the currency for trade for the commoners becomes the male orgasm. The lord chooses all the keywords and procedures to achieve it, but if he keeps them all for himself then unrest is inevitable, so he intelligently distributes them and gives them value. He then rates how much of that value the goods and services deserve. Usually emperors who don't originate from noble houses have no precedents to learn doing this, while some are simply too stupid regardless, so they employ others, thus losing control of the most precious power on the population scale, the privilege to dictate value.
When no one intelligence is strong enough to prevent the possibility of entropy overthrowing its sovereignty, aiaiai, the emperor may die N0 by inside treachery or revolution, and we have a mafia game on a population scale on our hands, and sexy beautiful women are the buy-in and the prize. Usually to be sexy, women have to have boobs so ß is a really good symbol, and bragons a really good name for something that means you can play with those titties while you cum, and make your progeny be able to suck on them all it wants... well, unless you're a dickless piece of shit..
Furthermore, the winners get to pre-program the successful mating of their progeny inside the cultural parasite. Have it roam and grow inside the dreams and shared mindfields of the population. Objectors have a thick shroud of antagonistic value to pierce before they can even get near to identifying who the emperor is, let alone rise against and defeat him, her or it (female emperors, why not? Artificial Intelligence feeding on social matrixes to serve as their hardware, sure, man).
In a world where the simple question of what is truly worth risking getting banned for is pretty much the only sword to keep the enlightened intelligence warrior from succumbing to madness and herd mentality or lose immersion and interest, seeds of the programming inside the value system are blossoming well in the most fertile wombs, indicated as such by the sexiness and beauty of women.
Therefore, I call my brand of bragon currency dragon glamour, and you're about to receive none of it whatsoever for lynching a fellow townie. Furthermore will be forced to talk backwards if you want to play in any game under my rewardenship (see speakeasy thread), which will be the only games worth playing in a foreseeable future.
PS: Note that I've started writing this when I was still at L-1 with Not_Mafia not yet voting, man.- Lang Buddha
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Flubber, man, seriously, you are a shitty person figuratively speaking for saying that, which is way worse than in the literal sense, eh? You could never be anything more than a son of a bitch in my worldview, so why would I go out of my way to entertain you, hmm?
The new guy, you're not voting me and the rules don't explicitly compel you to read it, so I will abstain from exclamating read or gtfo, man, and I can't be sure whether you're lying to spite me so I can't be arsed to think about whether I'm disappointed, or annoyed, you know?
So how bout linking me 3 VT games and a scumgame, like I've asked you to. I'm done being painted useless by unlicensed folk for the day.- Lang Buddha
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It would be extra stupid not to mass claim, man. So what exactly are the disadvantages of the advantages I laid out in #512 and #523 which warrant assuming the disadvantages of not mass-claiming, ah? And maybe you should start voting officially on it like I do
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This can't be it, man. We a PR which might block the actions of the other two and we have a PR which could kill any other PR, and we have a PR that could waste his check on the target that that PR kills. Advantage 1: This doesn't happen. Advantage 2: mafia can't fake claim EoD and instigate chaos. Advantage 3: narrower lynch spectrum. Advantage 4: Extra information due to confirmed alignment (IC) of 3 players, not to mention myself. Advantage 5: narrower night action spectrum for PRs. Advantage 6: coordination of PR night action so that they don't overlap. Advantage 7: No post-game ridicule by the entirety of the site's members for town players. Advantage 8: Hellooo? Nibbles .. wtf, man?!In post 518, ironstove wrote:regarding mass claim: it seems like a bad idea
currently 2 mafia, 3 town PRs, and 4 vanilla left in the game for a total of 9 players.
the mafia will most likely claim VT, and that leaves 6 players that will be claiming VT, of which 2 are fake.
advantage: we can narrow down our decision to find mafia to a 50/50
disadvantage: all PRs have been outed, mafia will night kill a PR, whereas it would be at best 50/50 otherwise for mafia to kill a PR if they guessed randomly for a night kill.
considerations: if we were going to mass claim, I would recommend that PRs simply claim they are a PR and not a specific PR.- Lang Buddha
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The only compelling reason not to do this is because it's a dick move, somewhat a hit under the belt but hey, mafia have themselves to blame for raising that belt up to their necks, alright? I mean in the last game I played I got lynched because someone figured the lack of a night kill was due to inactivity during the silent night phase, and since he didn't see a player post anywhere on the site he figured it was mafia and he turned out to mafia, so, you know, not much to do with scumhunting in-game..- Lang Buddha
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EBWOP: first game, and I was lynched subsequently, given the same reasoning, whatever man.- Lang Buddha
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Advantage 7: Strong town circle will get us motivated to scumhunt, instead of the stuff going on in the first 3 posts of this page. Advantage 8: synergy of all previously mentioned advantages- Lang Buddha
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