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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:30 pm

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My apologies. I wanted to reread the whole game thread tonight but I could only manage a third of it.
Spoiler: Second Readthrough
+GE ()
+Grendel ()
++PP ()
--Grendel () --Grendel/PP team ()
++Drixx ()
++PP ()
+Drixx ()
+Drixx/PP team ()
PP(5): Grendel(/lime/monkey/massive/Tchill13)
PP(4): Grendel(/lime/monkey/)/Mathblade
----Grendel/PP team ()
+++Drixx/PP team ()
PP(4): Grendel/Mathblade
Mathblade(3): PP
Aristophanes(t) (2): GE/Drixx
?-? Drixx/GE team
+Drixx () ++Drixx/PP team ()
-Drixx (/) -Drixx/PP team ()
+PP ()
--Drixx ()
+++PP ()
----Grendel ()
--Grendel/PP team ()
-Mathblade () -PP/Mathblade team
+++PP ()
------PP/Mathblade team ()
+++GE () +GE/PP team
--Drixx (weirdly, faith in )
Tchill(t) (3): Drixx
PP(2): Grendel/Mathblade
monkey(t) (2): town
-Grendel/Mathblade team
?+?Drixx/PP team
IF PP = town, GE = scum. (PP scum =/= GE town; GE scum =/= PP town. ONLY PP town = GE scum.)
---------PP/Mathblade team (/)
++PP ()
--Mathblade () -------PP/Mathblade team ()
---Grendel () -----Grendel/PP team ()
----Grendel/PP team () ---PP/Mathblade team ()
+PP ()
++++++++GE ()
++++++GE/PP team ()
?-?Drixx () -Drixx/GE team ()
-Drixx/GE team ()
++++GE ()
+++GE/PP team ()
--GE/Grendel team ()
-Mathblade () -------PP/Mathblade team ()
+GE ()
++GE ()
--Grendel () -Grendel/PP team ()
+++++++GE () ++++++++GE/PP team ()
--PP/Mathblade team ()
---Mathblade () ------PP/Mathblade team ()
++++++GE ()
Tchill(t) (4): Drixx/GE
Mathblade(2): PP
Aristophanes(t) (2): town
PP(2): Grendel/Mathblade
?+?Drixx/Mathblade team ?+?GE/Mathblade team
?+?Drixx/PP team ?+?GE/PP team
-Drixx/GE team -Grendel/Mathblade team
+GE
+GE OR Drixx
-Drixx OR GE
+PP
?+?Grendel OR Mathblade
?-?Mathblade OR Grendel
+++GE ()
++++PP ()
+++GE ()
++++GE ()
-Drixx ()
+GE ()
+++++GE ()
+PP ()
---PP/Mathblade team ()
++++PP ()
--PP/Mathblade team ()
+++PP ()
+PP ()
+PP ()
+++PP ()
+++PP ()
++++++PP ()
--PP/Mathblade team ()
-Mathblade ()
--PP/Mathblade team ()
-----Mathblade ()
----------PP/Mathblade team ()
--Drixx ()
-Drixx () +Drixx/PP team ()
Tchill(t) (4): Drixx/GE
Mathblade(2): PP
Aristophanes(t): nancy(s)
--Mathblade
-Drixx (/)
+PP (/ are correct)
-Mathblade ()
--PP/Mathblade team ()
++++++++GE ()
+++Drixx/GE team OR +++GE/PP team ()
----GE/Mathblade team ()
?+?PP ()
---PP/Mathblade team ()
+++++++GE ()
++GE ()
++++GE () ---GE/Mathblade team ()
+++++PP () --PP/Mathblade team ()
--Mathblade (/)
----PP/Mathblade team (/)
+++++++++PP ()
------PP/Mathblade team ()
----Mathblade (//)
------PP/Mathblade team (//)
----Drixx ()
--Drixx/GE team ()
+GE/PP team ()
----PP/Mathblade team ( and this is getting very old)
++++++++GE (/)
+++GE/PP team ()
----GE/Mathblade team (/)
+++++GE ()
++++++++++++PP ()
----PP/Mathblade team ()
Tchill(t) (4): Drixx
Mathblade(3): PP/GE
Aristophanes(t) (2): nancy(s)
--Grendel ()
-GE/Grendel team ()
?-?Grendel/PP team ()
---Grendel ()
++++++++GE ()
----Mathblade ()
--Mathblade ()
-----Mathblade ()
+++PP ()
++++GE ()
--Mathblade ()
---PP/Mathblade; --GE/Mathblade (//)
Most important/consistent takeaways: I will never be considering a PenguinPower/Mathblade scumteam.

Something I did this time which I did not last time: in my first readthrough, in many places, positive/negative marks were given connotations off of interactions.
Here, I instead separated the two. However, this would not itself explain all the little differences between my first and second times through.

I expect to be questioned on discrepancies between my notes on the first and second. Not only that, but questions on things which
didn't
change.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:32 pm

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In post 1377, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Interestingly while I was in Civilization mafia, the longest Large Theme, I was also in Open 675, the longest Open. Both games sucked up a ridiculous amount of my time.


Civilization Mafia Mafia:

Votecount 3.56:


Gamma Emerald (4): Mathblade, Ginngie, nancy, lime in da coconut
nancy (1): massive
Mathblade (0):
lime in da coconut (0):
Drixx (0):
Grendel (0):
massive (0):
Ginngie (0):
PenguinPower (0):

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Grendel, Drixx, PenguinPower

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

The day has begun and will end in (expired on 2017-09-17 23:00:00).


Spoiler: Remaining Posts:
Drixx: 59
Ginngie: 54
lime in da coconut: 62
Gamma Emerald: 45
Mathblade: 23
Grendel: 60
massive: 55
PenguinPower: 70
nancy: 43


Replacements omg!
Prods did go out.
This VC is the highlight of why Gamma is scum.

Gamma sat at L-1 a
reallllly
long time here.

Then a nancy wagon develops.

If Gamma was Town scum could have hammered there.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:35 pm

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In post 1399, Grendel wrote:I kinda thought you were a power role Massive, with how you honed onto nancy's cliam. I was hoping you could keep it under wraps until later since we've had literally no aid from town's power at night this game. Sorry I was too late to back you up, and you felt you had to claim to get nancy lynched. :/

I guess on the bright side this means I don't have to work to get anybody to listen to me for once.

VOTE: nancy

massive,
Gamma Emerald, Ginngie,
PenguinPower
Drixx, MathBlade,
lime, nancy


-/-/-/-/-/-

Massive stands to gain nothing from 1 v 1ing another softed power role, and he claimed on his own volition under no pressure. I don't see a way Massive is scum in this situation barring some very left field theories.

I don't think that nancy handles a slot the way she handled Gamma earlier, and moreover I agree that Gamma being the only wagon today is very questionable.

Drixx is a toss up for me because for a while I thought that Korts might be a red herring. Ei a player scum read for playstle vs their actually motivations. after putting the slot off for a while it seems that their really isn't anything town like I recall from the slot. I'm too busy to check their isos right now, but I will look into it.

Math's play today has been pretty scummy. Nothing about Gamma has been obscum fmpov, and seeing Math insist that he has been doesn't jive with me. It looks like over compensation. The point that Massive calling the game a role maddness is a scum slip also doesn't seem believable. My only qualm is that I think that in this sutiantion Math would be bussing nancy instead of pushing a mislynch on Gamma. The scum Math I remember likes to bus a lot. I guess that this would call into question Gamma's legitimacy, I'll have to consider that bridge when I come to it.

Lime and his predecessor have flown under the radar this game. This may be due to how Dark horse played up to my own thoughts on the game state intentionally or not (If dark hourse was purposely echoing me then wow, he really got inside me head). Lime doing little to push or poke outside of his recently competeled catch-up, and his handling Gamma/nancy aren't good. Scum also tend to leave in drop points vs proactively use points they've already made in the thread. Example here being how I asked Lime to explain they reads in a more cohesive manner, and they're response was that I should find it myself.

nancy avoiding my questions about claim at this stage were bad, her taking my town read on her for granted until I start questioning her slot is worse, her getting positively counterclaimed seals the deal.

-/-/-/-/-

I'd be lying if I said I'm wholly positive that the team is all in nancy, Lime, Math/Drixx. I do think that there is a chance that Penguin could be the final scum. I'm not prepared to jump away from my original tells, yet I'm not even sure why I was town reading eddie so hard outside of that specific reason.

Outside of him I would be very surprised to learn any of Massive/Gamma/Gingie were scum based off today's interactions alone.
Look who finally becomes active a drops a vote on nancy.

Grendel from playing with me knows I am an overconfident player and well...He claims I am scummy because I am loud lololol

Grendel is stretching for reasons.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:37 pm

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@lime -- Do you have a TLDR on that?

I quite frankly will not read all of that unless I can see some method of comprehending it.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:40 pm

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In post 1466, lime in da coconut wrote:
Spoiler: Playerlist Reference
Drixx/Korts
Ginngie
Game Replacement/Eddie Cane/PersephoneSidekick
Gamma Emerald/Sunlit Diamond/Draynth
MathBlade/Robbnva
Grendel/Kaboose
lime in da coconut/Dark Horse

nancy

Vecna/Aristophanes
Titus/Assemblerotws
Tchill13
humaneatingmonkey
massive

Spoiler: Votecounts Reference
In post 53, RadiantCowbells wrote:PersephoneSidekick (4): Kaboose,
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Robbnva
Robbnva (3): PersephoneSidekick,
massive
,
Tchill13

Aristophanes
(2): Draynth, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(1):
Ginngie

massive
(1):
Aristophanes

Not Voting:
Assemblerotws
,
nancy
In post 125, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(3):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts
PersephoneSidekick (2): Kaboose, Robbnva
humaneatingmonkey
(2):
Ginngie
,
Assemblerotws
,
Robbnva (1): PersephoneSidekick
Aristophanes
(1): Sunlight Diamond
Kaboose (1):
massive

massive
(1):
Aristophanes

Not Voting:
nancy
,
Tchill13
In post 205, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts, Sunlight Diamond
Robbnva (2): PersephoneSidekick,
Assemblerotws
,
Aristophanes
(2):
Ginngie
,
Tchill13

PersephoneSidekick (2): Kaboose, Robbnva
Kaboose (1):
massive

massive
(1):
Aristophanes

Not Voting:
nancy
In post 250, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts, Sunlight Diamond
Robbnva (2): Eddie Cane,
Assemblerotws
,
Aristophanes
(2):
Ginngie
,
Tchill13

massive
(2):
Aristophanes
, Robbnva
Kaboose (1):
massive

Not Voting:
nancy
, Kaboose
In post 325, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts, Sunlight Diamond
Robbnva (2):
Assemblerotws
, Eddie Cane
Aristophanes
(2):
Ginngie
,
nancy

massive
(1):
Aristophanes

Kaboose (1):
massive

Eddie Cane (1): Robbnva
Ginngie
(1):
Tchill13

Not Voting: Kaboose
In post 400, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts,
Ginngie

Robbnva (3):
Assemblerotws
, Eddie Cane, Sunlight Diamond
Aristophanes
(2):
nancy
,
Tchill13

massive
(1):
Aristophanes

Grendel (1):
massive

Eddie Cane (1): Robbnva
Not Voting: Grendel
In post 451, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
Dark Horse
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts,
Ginngie

Robbnva (3):
Assemblerotws
, Eddie Cane, Sunlight Diamond
Vecna
(2):
nancy
,
Tchill13

massive
(1):
Vecna

Grendel (1):
massive

Not Voting: Grendel, Robbnva
In post 581, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Vecna
(4):
nancy
,
Tchill13
,
Ginngie
, Korts,
Robbnva (2):
Assemblerotws
, Sunlight Diamond
Sunlit Diamond (1): Grendel
Ginngie
(1): Eddie Cane
Grendel (1):
massive

Korts (1):
Vecna

Not Voting: Robbnva,
humaneatingmonkey
,
Dark Horse
I'm presuming the mass exodus from the Tchill wagon is a result of Tchill claiming (and presumably also why Tchill died last night).
In post 650, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Vecna
(4):
nancy
,
Tchill13
,
Ginngie
, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(2): Grendel, Sunlit Diamond
Robbnva (1):
AssemblerotwsD

massive
(1): Eddie Cane
Eddie Cane (1):
humaneatingmonkey

Grendel (1):
massive

Korts (1):
Vecna

Not Voting: Robbnva,
Dark Horse
In post 762, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Assemblerotws
(6):
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
,
Ginngie
,
Dark Horse
, Sunlit Diamond, Eddie Cane
Vecna
(2):
Tchill13
, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(2): Grendel,
Vecna

Robbnva (1):
AssemblerotwsD

Grendel (1):
massive

Not Voting: Robbnva
Obviously this was a failed deadline rush wagon but I need the context for why it was Assemblerotws (who had zero votes in the previous votecount) rather than Vecna, humaneatingmonkey, or for that matter the vanity wagons of the time (Robbnva/massive/Eddie Cane/Grendel/Korts). Did Vecna claim? Did humaneatingmonkey claim?
In post 827, Ether wrote:
humaneatingmonkey
(2):
Dark Horse
, Sunlit Diamond
Eddie Cane (2):
Tchill13
, Robbnva
Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Assemblerotws

Assemblerotws
(1):
Ginngie

Not Voting:
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Eddie Cane, Grendel, Korts
In post 851, Ether wrote:
Tchill13
(4):
massive
,
Assemblerotws
, Eddie Cane, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(3):
Dark Horse
, Sunlit Diamond, Grendel
Eddie Cane (2):
Tchill13
, Robbnva
Assemblerotws
(1):
Ginngie

Not Voting:
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
In post 875, RadiantCowbells wrote:
humaneatingmonkey
(4):
Dark Horse
, Sunlit Diamond, Grendel, Eddie Cane
Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Assemblerotws

Eddie Cane (1): Robbnva
Assemblerotws
(1):
Ginngie

Korts (1):
Tchill13

Not Voting:
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts
In post 950, RadiantCowbells wrote:Korts (2):
Tchill13
, Gamma Emerald
Robbnva (2): Eddie Cane, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(2):
Dark Horse
, Grendel
Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Assemblerotws

Eddie Cane (1): Robbnva
Assemblerotws
(1):
Ginngie

Not Voting:
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
In post 1080, RadiantCowbells wrote:Eddie Cane (3): Robbnva,
Ginngie
,
Tchill13

humaneatingmonkey
(2):
Dark Horse
, Grendel
Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Assemblerotws

Korts (1): Gamma Emerald
Robbnva (1): Eddie Cane
Not Voting:
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
, Korts
In post 1150, RadiantCowbells wrote:Game Replacement(4): Robbnva,
Ginngie
,
Tchill13
,
humaneatingmonkey

Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Titus

humaneatingmonkey
(1):
Dark Horse

Korts (1): Gamma Emerald
Robbnva (1): Eddie Cane
Titus
(1): Korts
Not Voting:
nancy
, Grendel
In post 1175, RadiantCowbells wrote:Game Replacement(2):
Tchill13
,
humaneatingmonkey

Tchill13
(2):
massive
,
Titus

humaneatingmonkey
(2):
Dark Horse
, Grendel
Mathblade (2): Eddie Cane,
Ginngie

Titus
(2): Drixx, Gamma Emerald
nancy
(1): Mathblade
Not Voting:
nancy
In post 1236, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Titus
(6): Gamma Emerald,
nancy
,
Ginngie
,
Tchill13
, Mathblade,
humaneatingmonkey

humaneatingmonkey
(3):
Dark Horse
, Grendel, Drixx
Tchill13
(2):
massive
, Game Replacement
Not Voting:
Titus
Here the question becomes why Titus was the deadline-rush wagon rather than Game Replacement or Mathblade (or I suppose the nancy vanity wagon). Also, because I'm using this as a reference I want to have the failed D1 deadline rush VC quoted right next to this one for ease-of-comparison.
In post 762, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Assemblerotws
(6):
nancy
,
humaneatingmonkey
,
Ginngie
,
Dark Horse
, Sunlit Diamond, Eddie Cane
Vecna
(2):
Tchill13
, Korts
humaneatingmonkey
(2): Grendel,
Vecna

Robbnva (1):
AssemblerotwsD

Grendel (1):
massive

Not Voting: Robbnva
In post 1282, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gamma Emerald (1): Mathblade
Not Voting: Gamma Emerald,
nancy
,
Ginngie
,
Dark Horse
, Grendel, Drixx,
massive
, Game Replacement
In post 1360, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gamma Emerald (4): Mathblade,
Ginngie
,
nancy
,
lime in da coconut

nancy
(1):
massive

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Grendel, Drixx, Game Replacement
In post 1377, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gamma Emerald (4): Mathblade,
Ginngie
,
nancy
,
lime in da coconut

nancy
(1):
massive

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Grendel, Drixx, PenguinPower
In post 1425, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gamma Emerald (3): Mathblade,
Ginngie
,
nancy

nancy
(3):
massive
, Grendel,
lime in da coconut

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Drixx, PenguinPower
I honestly think there's a rather significant chance both scumbuddies are in Not Voting here. There has to be at least one, since the only scumteam with none would be Mathblade/Grendel. I'll keep an open mind to the possibility, but I rather sincerely doubt that combo.
In post 1445, RadiantCowbells wrote:
nancy
(5):
massive
, Grendel,
lime in da coconut
, Gamma Emerald,
Ginngie

Gamma Emerald (2): Mathblade,
nancy

Not Voting: Drixx, PenguinPower
Updated with extra alignments now which will help me in my reread. Additionally updated with D3 VCs.
Omg you do VCA like I do yay!

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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:43 pm

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Math is scum by association with nancy btw
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:48 pm

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Lime in da coconut wins the award for rolefishing as a reaction to me claiming to know of another PR. No town aligned player should want me to reveal such information, except in conditions where doing so would solve the game. And I certainly didn't say or imply that.

Is this as simple as Gamma Emerald and Lime?


@Ginngie - I would really like to see actual explanation and analysis please. I have a hard enough time getting a read on you. Short declarative statements for posts don't help. Even if it seems absurdly self-evident to you, can you please explain the rationale for how you arrive where you do? If you do it for no other reason than to demonstrate some new tools to help me, then at least do it for that please?
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:49 pm

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In post 1480, Ginngie wrote:Math is scum by association with nancy btw
I think there's a really good reason to assume not, but feel free to point out why I'm wrong.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:52 pm

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Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:53 pm

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In post 1480, Ginngie wrote:Math is scum by association with nancy btw
Good luck with that when I am the one on Gamma and pointed out the nancy question that lead to her lynch. Only reason I wasn't voting there was RL. So like unless you're saying me nancy Gamma your point makes no sense. And if you are help me "bus".
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:54 pm

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@Drixx, my mind is referencing every game of experience I've played in. Like I explained the reason I did set up spec so what else you asking for?

Also I don't understand why I'm not lock town ;~;
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:55 pm

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In post 1483, Ginngie wrote:Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."
Lol look Ginngie.

I am a master busser when I bus.

Seriously. I can provide samples. When I bus I buy stock in greyhound and run it into the ground.

Gamma is scum.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:58 pm

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Gamma is town, you're not.

You're logic is that Gamma is scum because nancy was a counterwagon is flawed because nancy was scum.

It's actually kinda bad in a vaccum and not just an association

Math I don't care about any of your responses?

You're the first I've analyzed using meta I know of nancy and actual analysis comparing to others.

When I'm done doing everyone else then maybe I'll reconsider but I'm not.

Also you went "hey but self meta and skills" instead of attacking my reasoning and telling me I'm wrong.

That just adds to the fact that you're trying to fight the argument using points that don't even matter
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:59 pm

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In post 1483, Ginngie wrote:Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."
I was also manipulating nancy.

She in night and day lied and called me Town.

I had her pegged on read in and called her Town to get her to relax then lead Gamma wagon and then scum divert to another scum and you have the courage to bullshit I am scum?

ObvTown doesn't mean right.

We are lynching Gamma who scum didn't want lynched.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:00 pm

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In post 1487, Ginngie wrote:Gamma is town, you're not.

You're logic is that Gamma is scum because nancy was a counterwagon is flawed because nancy was scum.

It's actually kinda bad in a vaccum and not just an association

Math I don't care about any of your responses?

You're the first I've analyzed using meta I know of nancy and actual analysis comparing to others.

When I'm done doing everyone else then maybe I'll reconsider but I'm not.

Also you went "hey but self meta and skills" instead of attacking my reasoning and telling me I'm wrong.

That just adds to the fact that you're trying to fight the argument using points that don't even matter
You're using meta.

I counter with meta.

I use actual stuff in this thread

Demonstrate that scum want Gamma alive and then you work with scum to try to get me lynched.


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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:44 pm

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Prod Dodge.

*Yawn*

Seriously...Post count limited doesn't mean never post people.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:18 pm

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VOTE: Math
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:01 pm

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In post 1488, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1483, Ginngie wrote:Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."
I was also manipulating nancy.

She in night and day lied and called me Town.

I had her pegged on read in and called her Town to get her to relax then lead Gamma wagon and then scum divert to another scum and you have the courage to bullshit I am scum?

ObvTown doesn't mean right.

We are lynching Gamma who scum didn't want lynched.
Wait she LIED in night and day? can you cite this?
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:02 pm

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For Drixx, my mind, mapped out.

Drixx/Korts
PenguinPower/Game Replacement/Eddie Cane/ Perse
Gamma Emerald/Sunlit Diamond/ Draynth
####Mathblade/Robbnva
Grendel/Kaboose
line in da coconut/Dark Horse



Math/Robb scum
-no interactions wiht Robb but heavy defense
-no Math interactions and still defended
-town read for no explicit reasons

GE/Sunlit/Draynth
-no mention of Draynth
-same for sunlit
-scumread GE pre-gambit



Drixx, PP, GE, Math, Grendal, lime

Gin/GE


who left PP, Drixx, Math, Grendal, lime


PP/Game Replacement/Eddie
-1181, nancy pushes a Eddie scumread by posting a case on eddie scum

Gin/GE/PP

who left, Drixx, Math, Grendal, lime


Drixx/Korts
-really muddy interactions
-hard to tell
-brownie points for nancy digging at the robb push
-1015 causes confusion
-little to no interaction with drixx


Gin/GE/PP

who left Drixx, math, Grendal, lime


grendal/kaboose
-nothing on Kaboose
-1342 grendal leans town from interactions
-1366 lean TvS
-1417/1421 leans distancing
-1422 tips the scale to town


Gin/GE/PP/Grendal

who left Drixx, Math, lime
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:33 pm

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In post 1492, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1488, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1483, Ginngie wrote:Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."
I was also manipulating nancy.

She in night and day lied and called me Town.

I had her pegged on read in and called her Town to get her to relax then lead Gamma wagon and then scum divert to another scum and you have the courage to bullshit I am scum?

ObvTown doesn't mean right.

We are lynching Gamma who scum didn't want lynched.
Wait she LIED in night and day? can you cite this?
We talked on skype post game. I think she might have posted about it but I doubt it. I was curious as to how she read me so well and it came out. Hence earlier I said I pulled a nancy.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:34 pm

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Game solved just no townies or anyone who isn't pocketed around.

*sigh*
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:10 pm

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In post 1495, MathBlade wrote:Game solved just no townies or anyone who isn't pocketed around.

*sigh*
LOL rip Math, this post is so bad
If it said "townies not pocketed" it would be better but this shows the frustration Math is experiencing about not being able to get me lynched.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:08 pm

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VOTE: MathBlade

This is L-1
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:03 am

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Wow now Gamma is using bs Grammar.

:(

Seriously Gamma and Grendel are scum. Ginngie is pocketed and Drixx is just like not trying.

I am frustrated and pissed because I solved this game a while back and no matter how much I try it doesn't matter:
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:32 am

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Like i vote Gamma.

Gamma OMGUS's.

How much plainer can this be?
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