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Post Post #5150 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 5148, Mary Saotome wrote:Yumeko isn't scum >_>
i will be sheeping you/kid/titus today, and i agree gerry gets lynched first. if you're right, this is game. i am mildly surprised gerry's probs scum though, i really need to adjust meta stuff if so. paranoia tells me to read into that, but i'm not going to because i think it makes sense.
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Post Post #5151 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:09 pm

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In post 5149, gerryoat wrote:i'll bbl, hopefully kid and yume post by then
i'm going to sleep anyways. based on timezones they'll probably be here tonight.
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Post Post #5152 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:19 pm

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In post 5106, gerryoat wrote:im just gonna assume that maf has a redirector
Highly unlikely, take a look at rule #31:
A member of a mafia faction cannot perform an ability and kill at the same time.
Mafia would have to have 2 members alive, 1 being a powerful role. The balance does not add up.

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Post Post #5153 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:20 pm

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out of me and gerry who's scum yumeko?
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Post Post #5154 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:27 pm

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It would have to be gerry, but I'm willing to listen to what he has to say.

I don't think mafia would have more than 1 shot on a strongman here as there was a bp enabler and the protective roles are pretty limited as it is.

As for myself, I'd like to note that I didn't jailkeep TwoinaMillion though the plan called for him to shoot at me because I agreed that following the plan would likely lead us to victory anyway.
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Post Post #5155 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:31 pm

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i mean, only 1 nk would basically scumfirm you anyways, so i don't put much stock in that. but, yes, i think it's gerry. i am able to meta read people i'm extremely familiar with (irl friends / home site people / people i've played a shit ton with like transcend) without error, and i do value mary conftowning you.
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Post Post #5156 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:50 pm

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VOTE: Yumeko

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Post Post #5157 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:51 pm

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It's either Yumeko or Kid at this point probably.
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Post Post #5158 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:04 pm

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if i get lynched this game after i pushed people into hammering mafs without them claiming, then town deserves to lose lol. and titus, why do you think kid. i wanna hear the rational
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Post Post #5159 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:06 pm

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In post 5157, Titus wrote:It's either Yumeko or Kid at this point probably.
i will listen to you on yumeko. i can guarantee you 100% kid is town though titus. please divert your focus onto myself and gerry instead of that.
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Post Post #5160 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:08 pm

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Mary doesn't have a gun.

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Post Post #5161 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:13 pm

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ok so this is what we do for auto win. i have 0 reason to believe kid is maf here, because i dont see why we have a back up GS without a GS. unless maf GS but that makes no sense setup wise.

We NL here.

That will leave us with 5 people.

Kid/Yumeko dies.

So we will have:

Kid/yumeko
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Me
Skirt
Mary

tomorrow.

Then, we lynch in the unclears. Which is me/Skirt

so then the next night Yumeko can use his RB on me/skirt or Kid can have a GS report. either way, it's autowin. my math is correct right? if we lynch today, we cant do that process cause of the odd night

Yumeko if you're really odd night you should be fine with this.
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Post Post #5162 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:16 pm

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5 -> 4 -> 2 -> game

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Post Post #5163 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:16 pm

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w8 nvm
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Post Post #5164 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:17 pm

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^ lol
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Post Post #5165 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:17 pm

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my math is correct right? honestly we were stupid for even having vig shoot. but i didnt think you guys would go against my autowin plan so i didnt think that was necessary
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Post Post #5166 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:19 pm

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regardless of if you think it's autowin or not (it is) we have a cc in 2 people instead of possibly 3 (or more)
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Post Post #5167 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:20 pm

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if GS dies after NL the people with no gun are clear. if RB dies, then skirt is clear. and we have an extra report
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Post Post #5168 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:24 pm

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I am fine with it, I was thinking about it myself. I jailkept skirt skirt.

It's notable that off of dunkers kill we should know that the last mafia member is a strongman of some sort. With towns power, I wasn't expecting it to be more than a 1 shot strongman, but if it were a two shot strongman skirt skirt could have used that to avoid a kill being stopped and to look good.

I've actually been sitting here wracking my brain over possible scenarios: Titus cannot be mafia that avoided the gunsmith because we know that the last mafia member is a strongman. Same for Mary. Kidamn is towns only investigative role (aside from a backup of his role) and I believe them as well. I went back to look over my post where I compared voting and I see that you voted all three lynched mafia. UnaBombaH also includes you as someone they would lynch when they did not do so for any other mafia member. I also saw this post from Flairs:
In post 2689, Flairs wrote:Alright, if someone will check gerry I'd be willing to get off the gerry vote

In the meantime I'm going to go look over Nero and Two
Where they call for you to be checked. I don't actually think you are mafia despite results seeming to point to it so I instead think that something else is happening here.

I think skirt skirt is the last mafia member, a 2-shot strongman.
Looking back yesterday, skirt skirt himself was the one who pushed for himself to be jailkept instead of vigged. Everybody else went along with it, but It's notable that skirt skirt was highly against being vigged in what would be assumed to be a town win scenario if everything worked out.
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Post Post #5169 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:26 pm

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In post 2303, UnaBombaH wrote:Actually, what the hell.

VOTE: gerryoat

My gameplan for this day is set: I want to see a gerryoat flip, and then move forward from there with a stronger read on his wagon.
If he flips scum, I can have so many of the townreads! (and hopefully much deserved -creds) :cool:
this is all you need to know that i am town lol.
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Post Post #5170 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:27 pm

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and is there any role that can like, hide a gun? i mean i know doctors cant have it and traitors. so i dont think 2 mafs would have that too.
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Post Post #5171 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:28 pm

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I want to highlight that for our flipped roles:

bp bodyguard
bp enabler

We know that mafia have at least

1-shot strongman

Does anybody think this makes sense on it's own? A lone bp bodyguard needs both a bp enabler and a 1-shot strongman to counter it when there is no other protection in the game?
If you consider that I am a town non-consecutive jailkeeper the strongman makes a lot more sense belonging in this setup. And possibly even being a 2-shot strongman.
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Post Post #5172 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:28 pm

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Uhhh Yumeko talk to me on this? I'm pretty sold on Gerry scum here skirts been very consistent most of the game while gerry has seemed to pop up near the end of the game and it makes sense for solo scum. I disagree with you here the panic and mass post feel like trying to buy more time and a strongman with more then 1 shot is...wha
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Post Post #5173 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:30 pm

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Mary if you're somehow town, you will recieve worst town award after this game. i sadly have no reason to believe you are scum though. which is sad.

Why are you against autowin tho? lol
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Post Post #5174 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:30 pm

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In post 5170, gerryoat wrote:and is there any role that can like, hide a gun? i mean i know doctors cant have it and traitors. so i dont think 2 mafs would have that too.
Do you agree that we know the last mafia is a strongman?
Otherwise what happened to Dunkerdoodles?

My reasoning is that since the last role is strongman it's reasonable to assume that they're probably not more than that and also able to avoid gunsmith reports. So Titus and Mary cannot be strongmen and so cannot be mafia barring major shenanigans.
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