I endorse both product. Both of you get my virtual cookie.UnaBombaH wrote:I like this.In post 298, Luca Blight wrote:I'm in no way defending the lurkers - I am questioning the motivation behind your current stance, that a lynch of any lurker will do. It's such an easy path of no resistance to go down, and it doesn't sit right with me. There would be no issue if you had at least attempted to interact with the lurkers and draw reads out of them, but to just brand them all 'useless' and say any of them can be lynched is at best anti-town, and at worst a very scummy thing to do.
And I sort of like you.
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And I'm starting to reluctantly like this too...!In post 300, Realeo wrote:
I endorse both product. Both of you get my virtual cookie.UnaBombaH wrote:
I like this.In post 298, Luca Blight wrote:I'm in no way defending the lurkers - I am questioning the motivation behind your current stance, that a lynch of any lurker will do. It's such an easy path of no resistance to go down, and it doesn't sit right with me. There would be no issue if you had at least attempted to interact with the lurkers and draw reads out of them, but to just brand them all 'useless' and say any of them can be lynched is at best anti-town, and at worst a very scummy thing to do.
And I sort of like you."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Why you feel shame for townreading me?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I just noticed I never talked about this. I had something typed up, but it apparently got lost while consolidating posts. His powerlurking puts him into the "leaning scum" category, what makes him more scummy than the rest is:In post 295, Realeo wrote: Wait. What?
Why you never talk about this? Explain your scumread please. I personally forgot about assemble so can use some insight.
In post 17, Assemblerotws wrote: No, for three reasons:
1: I'mTown.
2: The Traitor already knows the identities of theMafiamembers.
3: If I wereMafia, my first move would be to recruit theTraitor.
In post 17, alignments/roles are capitalized, in post 155 they aren't. This could mean that there's more to post 17 than it meets the eye.In post 155, Assemblerotws wrote: Comm and I were joking about a game we played together where I, asscum, tried to crumb to some of the otherscumthrough judicious use of capitalization, got exposed by my buddy in what was, due to the mechanics of this particular game, the dumbest bus I have ever seen, tried to claim PGO on my buddy's advice in order to see if we could identify the real PGO from the reactions, and then got quicklynched by CommKnight (who happened to be the actual PGO).
So you're doing the same as I, but you're less honest about it.In post 298, Luca Blight wrote: If I have a clear scumread then I will pursue that lynch until it's not longer reasonably possible, and only then look at compromising. What you're doing is just lining up a few easy targets to wagon at will and, as I said, it seems opportunistic to me.
How should I interact with people who just don't post?I'm in no way defending the lurkers - I am questioning the motivation behind your current stance, that a lynch of any lurker will do. It's such an easy path of no resistance to go down, and it doesn't sit right with me. There would be no issue if you had at least attempted to interact with the lurkers and draw reads out of them, but to just brand them all 'useless' and say any of them can be lynched is at best anti-town, and at worst a very scummy thing to do.- UnaBombaH
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Maybe I shouldn't...?In post 302, Realeo wrote:Why you feel shame for townreading me?
Nope, I definitely should be ashamed!
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I'm more surprised with his Null/Lean Scum/Scum divisions.
I don't see anything manipulation indicative for putting his name on top."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Nice misrep. The names aren't ordered, "first place on Townie list" is the same as "third place on Townie list".In post 304, Luca Blight wrote: I've only seen him say negative things about him so far, yet suddenly he's first name on his Townie list.
Also, you do not seem to get the distinction between "X does things I disagree with" and "X is scum". Should I explain it again, perhaps more slowly?- Luca Blight
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Alright I'm gonna play devil's advocate here on this one. Personally I always capitalize Town/Mafia/Specific role names, but I always lowercase the word "scum." It's a stylistic thing and non-indicative of anything, and I wouldn't assume deeper meaning from someone who does the same.In post 305, IceGuy wrote:In post 17, alignments/roles are capitalized, in post 155 they aren't. This could mean that there's more to post 17 than it meets the eye.- Realeo
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Apparently IceGuy's last game was two years ago.
@IceGuyDo you play in other mafia sites interim?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Misrep? you're really stretching the term there. I'm aware the first name had the same value as the third, I was just stating it as a literal fact.In post 308, IceGuy wrote:
Nice misrep. The names aren't ordered, "first place on Townie list" is the same as "third place on Townie list".In post 304, Luca Blight wrote: I've only seen him say negative things about him so far, yet suddenly he's first name on his Townie list.
Also, you do not seem to get the distinction between "X does things I disagree with" and "X is scum". Should I explain it again, perhaps more slowly?
I get the distinction, but it still surprises me how someone who has done nothing (that you have noted) positive and only negative things in your eyes is a TownRead of yours.- Realeo
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@LucaBlightWould you stop attacking him for a moment, please? I'm trying to figure out where his play style is coming from."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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You said yourself you're willing to compromise when the deadline looms. I'm also willing to compromise, but I post about it. So, I'm doing the same, I'm just posting about it.In post 309, Luca Blight wrote:You're doing nothing the same as I, IceGuy, and don't even try to pretend you are.
So, I could write "Assemble: Say something". What next? Do you think a lurker will not stop lurking when faced with a lynch, but stop lurking when faced with a question?You could actually try to interact with them before writing them all off - have you tried?
No.In post 311, Realeo wrote:Apparently IceGuy's last game was two years ago.
@IceGuyDo you play in other mafia sites interim?
If you were stating it just as a literal fact, why didn't you leave it off? The fact is readily apparent in my post, so there's no need to repeat it - unless you're trying to draw attention to it, which you deny.In post 312, Luca Blight wrote:
Misrep? you're really stretching the term there. I'm aware the first name had the same value as the third, I was just stating it as a literal fact.In post 308, IceGuy wrote:
Nice misrep. The names aren't ordered, "first place on Townie list" is the same as "third place on Townie list".In post 304, Luca Blight wrote: I've only seen him say negative things about him so far, yet suddenly he's first name on his Townie list.
Also, you do not seem to get the distinction between "X does things I disagree with" and "X is scum". Should I explain it again, perhaps more slowly?- Realeo
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Can I invite non-lifer to meta dive him, please? I notice that his game play in the past is awkward at best (but not exactly awkward for his time) and perhaps non-compatible for a '17 play and I concluded that maybe we need a different way to sort him.
Plus, a striking majority of his game play is Micro and the dynamic that he put here kinda makes here if he come from a Micro game."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I heard Mafia '15 had those buggy Micros...literally every OMGUS resulted in a lynch."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Spoiler:
1) There's a difference in motivation behind someone who accepts compromise as a last resort and someone who is lining up the wagons of several different town members with 5 days until deadline.
2) There have been 'lurkers' who have popped in and out of the thread that you could have challenged if you genuinely wanted to get a read off of them. I think the key word here is 'try' - if you did this and had no success then I'd be a bit more sympathetic to your view on the lurkers.
3) Seriously, I'm not going to justify saying ChipButty was first on your Townie list when he was first on your Townie list. If you want to get sensitive over that then that's your prerogative but it feels a bit like you're deflecting away from the other issues.- Luca Blight
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@Luca BlightCan I invite you to meta dive Luca Blight? Some of his play is simply fascinating."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I don't want to sound rude and say IceGuy is old and his play is archaic...but he is old and his play is archaic."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Like, he is the type of guy who just analyze, analyze, rarely ask (There is a game where he virtually ask zero "alignment sorting" questions. He's like an introvert who suddenly come to a conclusion...so naturally he (pretty much) get lynched all the time as both alignment.
So I think attacking him for his "sorting method" would not be useful, but asking why he townread Chip Butty is a good question to ask."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I don't know if this is too much to ask for IceGuy, but since IceGuy is not the type of guy who is thinking out loud,I would like to request Iceguy to make CommKnight's style of read list + kinda detailed explanation.Your assembrelowts explanation is at the right ball park.
If IceGuy is town and unable to play proactively, we kinda have to proactively force him to be active."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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If you have a #1 scumread and a #2 scumread who is close in scummyness, and there is a wagon on #2 but not on #1, what would you do?In post 317, Luca Blight wrote: 1) There's a difference in motivation behind someone who accepts compromise as a last resort and someone who is lining up the wagons of several different town members with 5 days until deadline.
As I said: What's the point.2) There have been 'lurkers' who have popped in and out of the thread that you could have challenged if you genuinely wanted to get a read off of them. I think the key word here is 'try' - if you did this and had no success then I'd be a bit more sympathetic to your view on the lurkers.
Don't squirrel away. Why did you specifically mention it in your post?3) Seriously, I'm not going to justify saying ChipButty was first on your Townie list when he was first on your Townie list. If you want to get sensitive over that then that's your prerogative but it feels a bit like you're deflecting away from the other issues.
Honest, constructive posts mostly. Not particularly long, but straight to the point and devoid of fluff.In post 318, Luca Blight wrote:And while you're at it, IceGuy, would you care to explain that Townread of ChipButty?- Realeo
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Define "constructive""The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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