Mini Normal 1940: The Apartment [Endgame]

[Mumble]

@mod:Would it be possible to change the color of the person the wagon is on? With all the other names they start to blend in together.

You're needy.

VOTE: Srceenplay

I also don't like anything you have said.

Hi all!

[Mumble]

VOTE: Srceenplay

I also don't like anything you have said.

I think maybe RC was onto something.
It seems that someone from his neighborhood was thought to be scum and relaying information to Tesxx.
So that's two scum.
Now just check Boon tonight and that's game.

So do you think all of tess/(Eddie/scarab)/boon are town?
Who do you think yesterday's lynch should have been?

Dunno yet. I haven't read everything.

I just know that you've said a lot with out saying a lot, and I don't like that.

[Mumble]

Consider it starting a wagon on you.

[Mumble]

That was a possibility. At risk of me sounding like you, I'm going to pause until I've caught up.

[Mumble]

Mod: was Key replaced because of prod or asked to be replaced?

You want to play the game or have the mod play it for you? Second time you've asked for intervention since I've started in.

[Mumble]

If you think it AI vote me.

I did.

[Mumble]

If you think it AI vote me.

I did.

Great. Now explain how my questions to the mod is AI.

Why would I when that's not why I voted you?

You seem defensive. Of course, it's not helping that others aren't posting anything of relevance, but you are only posting in response to me right now.

[Mumble]

Have you read up yet? You clearly have been reading along at least since you showed up - so do you dislike the things Srceen said in that time span, or things that he said earlier? Can you point to specific things and why?

I've done enough reading and catching up now! I can't point to anything specific, I just don't like the way he comes across. Of course, I don't like you right now either. Hardclaiming vig and holstering N1 is yucky. Better use it tonight.

Eddie and Fykus are town. Idk about Boonskiies - want him to elaborate on his town read on my slot, cuz I don't see it.

Mod should also update the list of current players, but I think it is except for

Scum

Screen and myself?

[Mumble]

Is there a reason why I should be?

[Mumble]

Is there a reason why I should be?

Is there a reason why you shouldn't be?

Everyone is guilty until proven innocent you know.

In that case...why point out Fykus, and not both Eddie and Fykus?

[Mumble]

*sigh*

Do you see how we've gone full circle now? You should have just answered my question to begin with.

What alarms have gone off for you in regards to Fykus?

[Mumble]

*sigh*

Do you see how we've gone full circle now? You should have just answered my question to begin with.

What alarms have gone off for you in regards to Fykus?

That was the plan because it seemed like you were not only trying to dodge the original question but also trying to make me look bad.

Quite a bit. The unwillingness to avoid taking a hard stance on anyone or anything, his voting pattern, and his shading of the Jin slot.

Not sure why a simple question made you think I was trying to make you look bad...

Glad to see it's not because he's voting you - though, wouldn't him voting you be taking a hard stance (ofc he still needs to provide that case)? Also, not sure what you mean by voting pattern - what about it? I also don't like the Jin slot (pretty sure that's

Scum

Screen), so not bothered by that.

[Mumble]

@Mumble - Does my town read make sense now? It's because of how well I know Keyen. I played a game where he wasn't town, and immediately I stated something was off about his play, so I'm rather confident in my ability to read Key's early game. Call it by tone, call it by gut, but I haven't been wrong once, even though I did mislynch him in the game where the quote in my sig if from. It was a deadline lynch, though.

I believe it makes sense to you, and I don't think you're being disingenuous. I mean, if I was mafia, I would probably exploit it and say the same thing; but, that's where I'm at on it.

Do you still think

Scum

Screen is town?

[Mumble]

LUV can be town. LUV - thoughts on

Scum

Screen?

Don't really care about Screen's above, and the question wasn't directed toward him so...butt out.

[Mumble]

I really want to lynch you, Screen, and I don't know why.

I feel you. You should always go with your gut.

[Mumble]

Mumble /\/\

[Mumble]

I f know one else is going to put votes down can we at least all voice out top 2-3 scum reads?

no*

*sigh* ok. My top 3 the in order of scumminess is screen, Srceen, and Srceenplay. 4th place goes to Skitter.

[Mumble]

^
Agree.

Skitter lives through today. Screen should go though.

[Mumble]

Lynch screen then vig Fykus.

Can't even vote properly.

[Mumble]

You are not a counter wagon. You are the wagon.

Disagree.

Skitter, get back on Scum/Screen/Srceen plskthx.

[Mumble]

What about scum/screen/srceen being put at L-1 made you want to unvote random?

[Mumble]

I'm an

odd night cop.

scum PR
N1 I

checked

killed RC.
Piss off

scum

town fucks

ftfy. But, seriously, explain why you would check RC N1. That was a bad decision if you're town.

[Mumble]

UNVOTE:

[Mumble]

Because I'd like an answer without the risk of someone hammering before I get it.

[Mumble]

If I'm alive to D3, cop me N3.

I don't need another game where cop cops me the same night I die.

Looking through his wiki, he seems to be killed N1/N2 as town a lot, so what he said seems to be accurate, and should have been taken into account.

I am also not sure why you think there would be a nagging suspicion that he is playing us. Why him over any other player?

Why investigate RC over any other player? It just seems coincidental and an illogical choice.

[Mumble]

I'm hammering unless

Scum

Srceen can give me a better answer.

[Mumble]

VOTE: Srceenplay

[Mumble]

You're just scum.

[Mumble]

Stop trolling.

[Mumble]

/\/\

[Mumble]

Skitter/Uzi/Eddie

Nice.

VOTE: skitter

L-1

<--Dummies, this is L-1. Next one is a lynch.

You can lynch me next, but make sure you don't miss the LUV/Eddie vote. That whole recent interaction is horrible.

[Mumble]

UNVOTE:

Oops. Thought I saw skitter post.

Assertion of scum team still stands. Bad interaction between LUV and Eddie.

[Mumble]

VOTE: skitter

I think you aren't bad, Eddie. But, probs scum.

Town you wouldn't have the ???, no?

[Mumble]

Oh...that's where you're at? I thought you were better.

Bah, lynch it.

[Mumble]

Oh, yeah. L-1 and things.

[Mumble]

Don't care about you. Wanted screen dead.

The fact that he lied as town makes me unapologetic.

[Mumble]

I told you in the hood that mumble acted awkward around the lynch.

Why don't you tell the rest of us how I acted awkward around the lynch?

[Mumble]

Skitter/Uzi/Eddie

Willing (probs should) to reconsider Uzi.

Case me, plz, Eddie.

[Mumble]

Is it mylo today.

..............

[Mumble]

Fykus can replace Uzi.

[Mumble]

You're the one with a vote on me. You first. I insist.

[Mumble]

:bows:

M'lady.

[Mumble]

all you did from entering the game was tunnel screen. i did all of the interacting though, it's not like you actually did work - you fed fuel to my (misguided) fire and basically ignored the rest of the game. you had me and fykus as your only townreads too at the time -1267- so not sure where that went. that unvote was really bad too, you act all lamist and then don't actually wait for him to post. it's obvious bussing, and yes, or course skitter was bussed, not a single person defended him and he didn't even try to post. if you're town, you need to reread and come up with a better solve because luv and I are town and fykus probably is too so you're really dropping the ball

You wanna vote random?

[Mumble]

I mean, luv is probs town. I don't like random after yesterday. I also am starting to not like Boon.

I dunno. Maybe I should re-read. I won't. But, I should.

[Mumble]

all you did from entering the game was tunnel screen. i did all of the interacting though, it's not like you actually did work - you fed fuel to my (misguided) fire and basically ignored the rest of the game. you had me and fykus as your only townreads too at the time -1267- so not sure where that went. that unvote was really bad too, you act all lamist and then don't actually wait for him to post. it's obvious bussing, and yes, or course skitter was bussed, not a single person defended him and he didn't even try to post. if you're town, you need to reread and come up with a better solve because luv and I are town and fykus probably is too so you're really dropping the ball

You wanna vote random?

I am not voting outside you and random today probably.

but, is that all? nothing else to say to my post?

Not really. Lots of buzzwords and statements without saying much.

"Unvote was bad" Why? I actually gave a pretty good reason.
"Act all lamist" Um, what?
"Don't wait for him to post" Who?
"Obvious bussing" So, why was it me over everyone else?
"Dropping the ball" Yeah, so's the rest of town so don't act like you are god tier awesomeness kplsthx.

[Mumble]

but, what I meant was, do you think my case comes from bad town vs scum

I don't know. I don't really like many people in this game right now, and it's got me a bit paranoid. Fire/LUV are the only two I'm not freaking out about, with Boon closely behind (knocked down a peg only because of 1778).

where does random come from?

I didn't like 1757. I wasn't the only one who pushed screen hard (and it's certainly not my fault that screen lied in a way that came across really fake deepening my scumread on his), so me being probscum and Una being null feels like trying to set me up for today.

[Mumble]

I don't know. I don't really like many people in this game right now, and it's got me a bit paranoid. Fire/LUV are the only two I'm not freaking out about, with Boon closely behind (knocked down a peg only because of 1778).

So you are saying I got knocked down a peg for trying to make sure my read was correct or not when my read was completely based on your predecessor's play and not yours?

I'm saying that stuff like this:

Man, I wonder if Key felt bad because I town read him so hard, and he replaced out because of that.

@Key - if you ever see this, you don't have to feel bad about that kind of thing. It's nothing personal.

I've definitely felt bad for pocketing people so hard like that, and I've had people feel bad for pocketing me before. It's part of the game.

makes me paranoid. It feels like your trying to softly setup a reason to push me as scum should you need to cuz I don't see why else you would say that.

[Mumble]

Maybe I misunderstood the intent then. I think I'm being too cynical in my approach to this game.

[Mumble]

lynch me.

Seriously hate commands.

[Mumble]

I never strongly scum read LUV which you would know if you actually cared to read. It was entirely associative and a bad associative at that.

[Mumble]

I answered your damned question so move on or shut up.

[Mumble]

I'm done talking to you.

[Mumble]

I also dgaf what you "expect"

[Mumble]

youre being lynched today

dgaf.

You're doing to me what you did with screen, and when someone else "feeds fuel to your fire", you'll push them tomorrow. That's why you're scum.

Get bent.

[Mumble]

VOTE: Eddie

Happy to discuss anything with anyone else.

[Mumble]

ftr, it's less common. without checking statistics id guess it's around 60% two town, 30% 3 town, >10% 1 or 0 (lol) town for 3 man hoods

There has been one mini normal where there was a 3 town hood, and that was 3 years ago. I'm taking out Boonskiies' game since he had two hoods of 3, one all town and one with 1 mafia, so that was just a neighbor-heavy game

In contrast, there have been 7 games with at least 1 scum/sk-aligned neighbor.

There have only been 4 mini normal games with 3 neighbors total. Two of those were 2 town 1 scum. One was 1 town, 1 scum, 1 sk. One was 3 town. 75% of those games with a hood similar to this game had a non-town-aligned member.

[Mumble]

You could confirm yourself...

[Mumble]

Mumble, can you explain why you corrected Eddie? You seemed pretty fed up with him a few pages back so its odd you're engaging with him on something NAI like this. Did you feel like he was trying to mislead the town with alternative facts to soft clear himself?

I'm still fed up with him, and I don't plan on responding to anything he says. However, he presented incorrect information that could be used in decisions that the town makes, and I wanted to make sure that it was corrected. Fully could see that he was trying to dissuade with his misinformation those that think there is likely one non-town aligned player in the hood. His response about sample size is handwaving now that accurate information was actually presented.

[Mumble]

did he actually correct me? unless I misunderstood I guessed 30% and the actual answer was 25%

It's 7.5%.

[Mumble]

Of games that contained 3 neighbors total. There is only one game out of thirteen utilizing the Neighbor role that has 3 town neighbors and no other Neighbor role. 7.5%. Round up if you want to. 8%.

[Mumble]

Mumble, can you explain why you corrected Eddie? You seemed pretty fed up with him a few pages back so its odd you're engaging with him on something NAI like this. Did you feel like he was trying to mislead the town with alternative facts to soft clear himself?

Why do you feel it is NAI?

[Mumble]

yes, and this is one of the games with 3 neighbours total so it's a seperate statistic. if you want to include all games with neighbours 9 of them don't have scum based on your chart, aka mote than half. 10 of you include the game with 2 hoods 1 of which was all town. so, thanks for that.

You weren't talking about just games with just 3 neighbors total.

ugh its kidna weird to have a 3 man town neighbourhood though

not really, no. search normal archives.

ehh fair. i dont play normals often so ill trust you on it.

It is weird to have a 3 man town neighborhood. Only one game has had it. This game doesn't count because it hasn't been proven.

[Mumble]

It's NAI because while history does say there is likely one scum in those two, it doesn't make him confirmed scum.

If history supports that there is likely one scum in those two, and one of them is handwaving that history matters, why would that not be considered suspect?

[Mumble]

He didn't need to keep up appearances anymore than the next player or help try to generate discussion at the times he did.

So, scum does things that scum doesn't need to do, is town read for it, and is able to control the discussion that is occuring? Why on earth would scum do those things?!

Oh...wait.

[Mumble]

UNVOTE:

I don't believe there is all town in the non voting group. I'm actually a bit miffed there are 5 non votes.

[Mumble]

Explain the previous question.

What question?

I realize that I've done nothing but tunnel this game and my distaste for Eddie's playstyle is probably skewing my view of the game, so I am going to reset and will be looking at Random, Fykus, Una right now.

[Mumble]

I thought I explained that (and to be fair, LUV went from town to scum to town). I thought LUV based on the interactions on p52/p53. I switched to a scum read based on yours and his interactions on p70 (sequential votes right of the gate on obvscum and the cross push on me). I realized that was not a good reason. As I said, it was purely associative (you both would have to be scum).

[Mumble]

answer me

seriously hate getting ignored

i read. idgaf how strongly you'd scumread him. you've barely talked about players besides screen. you had him dcun in associative, well thatmudtve outweighed whatever made him one of your two solid townreads. if you're town I expect you to be able to actually justify this.

seriously hate commands

I have a short fuse, and snark like this sets it off.

[Mumble]

All I see is that your case is based on something you did in another game with another player and are projecting on to me in an arrogant manner. I've explained why I've done/acted what/the way I did, so I think it's weak.

[Mumble]

Me.

VT.

[Mumble]

rm is scum. His reads seem to follow who is most likely to get lynched; his entire case on keyen is something he has done to my slot; his voting on screen was bad (oh i thought he was l-2) and scum read me for pushing a wagon he was happy joining and that other people pushed; provided no thoughts on skitter (except "obvscum") despite being on site; promises to do stuff but doesn't do stuff; recent flip on Boon feels really fake and is a weak reason to flip on someone he has been consistently town reading.

Fykus is probably next scum based on post 1983.

VOTE: randomidget

[Mumble]

first one clearly isnt true

Spoiler: Definitely not true....oh wait

mumble is probs scum. complete absence of townreads from keyen combined with mumble pushing srceen hard yesterday and rly awkward posting today.

Mumble's play yesterday was scummy as shit but righteous indignancy kinda looks town here so idk on that slot.

i can case mumble if people want but its already been done better than i can IMO

second one isnt relevant

Not relevant when you do it, but relevant when applied to me..............k

third is something i do regularly regardless of alignment

You regularly do not provide thoughts..............k

your reads have been consistently sus

How about yours? Or everyone elses?

i have done stuff

Spoiler: I have done stuff!

Ok I'm read up-ish now but have mobile access only for the next few days.

Ill put together one when i have pc access
Its easier rn for you to ask questions and me to answer them

Sry prodge until tomorrow

if ppl want to talk to me ask me some questions to get the ball rolling and ill be happy to talk.

oh fuck i forgot that sry
its late now but ill do that tomorrow.

Oh i thought i had sorry. Im a VT

ugh the stats are confusing
stuff happening tonight

Im probs gonna ISO luv tonight

also this vote is obv af trying to save himself

Yes, trying to save myself from that awful one vote that's on me.

VOTE: mumble

also this vote is obv af trying to save himself

[Mumble]

can we just lynch fykus e.e

Yes. After rm.

[Mumble]

Your most recent posting is nothing but pushing a case on me that you think the town has a consensus on. That's not doing something, that's falling in line. And, when I flip town you get to go - oops, guess we were wrong. Bad town. No accountability for your push.

Not misrepping...Town should probably vote so we can see where they actually stand, because I'm not going to just up and believe you...I see two scum and Eddie voting/wanting to vote me.

Not going to go back and forth with you, since you obviously won't agree with anything I say (that would be bad play on your part). I promised to restart fresh and look at you, Fykus, and Una, and that is what I did.

[Mumble]

OK, so random/mumble is turning into a 1v1.
I'm confident we will find one scum in them, maybe not so likely two (although I wouldn't cross it out 100%)

Which way does the consensus lean at this time?

You should probably start by offering your own thoughts.

[Mumble]

For posterity:

Spoiler: Fykus' Reasons for Voting Mumble

Im gonna vote mumble with eddie but i waana wait fore fires replacement to sub in and claim first

Also i think this pretty much confirms scumble but im leaning towards town midge.

VOTE: mumble

[Mumble]

like, i dont get why mumble - fykus are becoming the big wagons, it doesn't really make sense to me.

..and this is why I was asking for opinions rather than just brute forcing either of these two wagons, I feel like there are chances to catch wonky interactions happening.

Like now, LUV voting Fykus makes no sense to me.

Why does LUV voting Fykus make less sense to you than Fykus voting me?

They both have similar reasoning...........

[Mumble]

^una has a point
also stop voting mumble right now
Especially u random

Mumble/Randomidget/Fykus

beep beep rng

1

VOTE: mumble

Random voting is dumb, and you deserve to eat a loss.

[Mumble]

This game is somehow very slow and stalled, and yet the situation is intriguing at the same time..

This is honestly just a shameless prodge until I can actually produce something worth reading.
For now, I'm a bit stumped.

like, i dont get why mumble - fykus are becoming the big wagons, it doesn't really make sense to me.

..and this is why I was asking for opinions rather than just brute forcing either of these two wagons, I feel like there are chances to catch wonky interactions happening.

Like now, LUV voting Fykus makes no sense to me.

Why does LUV voting Fykus make less sense to you than Fykus voting me?

They both have similar reasoning...........

[Mumble]

do u guys wanna just agree on a lynch pool and flip a coin?

Flipping a coin with three choices is dumb, and you deserve to eat a loss.

[Mumble]

No. I'm mad because you are confirmed town and letting a randomizer play the game for you. I'd feel, mostly, the same if you had landed on rm or Fykus. Less so, because I think they are scum, but still frustrated.

[Mumble]

Would you like me to move my vote back to Fykus?

I would prefer for you to move you vote to rm, but I'm fine with Fykus.

[Mumble]

VOTE: Fykus

You are truly doing nothing.

[Mumble]

What if randomidget and Fykus are just scum together?

Can we get a vote count? Last one was Monday.

[Mumble]

try reading the thread?

I did. Thanks.

I see no reason as to why we should lynch rm.

Then why was he in your lynch pool of randomness?

[Mumble]

Thank you.

VOTE: randomidget

[Mumble]

She's on me.

[Mumble]

Finally. Thanks for coming around.

[Mumble]

I dislike the fact that Mumble has yet to post.

Mumble is the one who hasn't talked today, right?

I do not like the focus on this. The thread was opened after I had gone to bed for the night, and I've just now had a chance to go through my morning routine, get to work, and read through. Why do you think my failure to post within the first 6 hours of the thread being open have any bearing on my alignment?

[Mumble]

Fykus/Una is where I'm at right now.

Fykus never engages or discuss Una. Una doesn't engage directly with Fykus, and tries to softly distance/defend while leave him open to being scum, and never pushes.

Spoiler: Una's Fykus Mentions

I'm pretty sure Skitter flips scum here so based on a quick skim of her wagon earlier, probably one scum in Croc and Una.

Third partner between Fykus and Mumble.

I already admitted as much to Eddie, but I can't fully agree with this.

I'd say yes to skitter, yes to Mumble, but no to me/Croc.

My third scum would have to be from random/Eddie (yes, I went there.)

1) Randomidget
3) Fykus
12) Firecrocer
13) Mumble

2/4 are scum. we only have 1 mislynch. when any of you 4 are on (or I guess 3 ) please talk to me. i do my best sorting via live interactions, boon / rc / mulch are the only people in this game I believe can keep up with tryhard Eddie. whoever's town, this is how you'll convince me. ftr, I town lean fire (sorry una) and fykus (sorry boon) coming into this.

I don't know if this is "dangerous content" to give (bah gawd, I could be setting up a chain of mislynches!), but my order of susp. and therefore order of lynches would be:
1) Mumble
2) Random
3) FireCroc (and I really honestly doubt this would even be necessary)
4) Fykus

IF, and I seriously doubt it after the latest, but IF Mumble flips town, this order would obviously need to be trashed, and I actually feel it would be likely at that point, that we have one scum in boon/Eddie/LUV (dislike the thought )
So Mumble should flip scum, and the worst case scenario after that for me, is that Random doesn't.

So I guess Rando/Fykus or Rando/LUV would have to be my guess for the scum team right now.

You had me nodding with your reasoning, so I can accept these. But LUV as scum without Eddie...I need to write when I get on computrr.

like, i dont get why mumble - fykus are becoming the big wagons, it doesn't really make sense to me.

..and this is why I was asking for opinions rather than just brute forcing either of these two wagons, I feel like there are chances to catch wonky interactions happening.

Like now, LUV voting Fykus makes no sense to me.

All that VCA points to is a pool of Fykus/Random/

Una

/Mumble

This is ridiculous..

Did you think Fykus protected me? Because I semi was thinking that after a little while yesterday, which is something that made me want to go Rando over Fykus. It almost felt to me like Fykus was trying to setup a fake claim with it, though, but never truly committed, which is another reason I'm stuck on Fykus, along with that Eddie Cane wagon.

You said you got a doc shot from night 1, am I correct?
And you used it N2 to try and save SOMEONE, right?

Fykus isn't the one I think has a doc-shot.
I might obviously be wrong, but I think Vedith protected scum N2, and was killed that same night.

Fykus

scum was trying to setup a fake claim with it, though, but never truly committed

Disclaimer: not saying Fykus can't be scum, and he COULD have been the one to gambit if he is scum, but someone else has the doc shot.
I think Vedith wouldn't have saved Fykus that night.

[Mumble]

I was just pointing it out, in case you had some claiming to do!

Well, that's a lie given that we've all claimed and you know that.

But good to see you are jittery about that.

What was jittery about my response? I pointed out that I found your focus scummy.

Boon is the closest thing I have to locktown, but the rest of you could all be scum with someone.

Why is Boon lock town for you?

You trying to pair me and Fykus is nowhere near reasonable to me, but maybe its harder to see for yourself.

I would be shocked if it

was

reasonable to you.

[Mumble]

>this all feels very forced to me
>doesn't state why
>doesn't answer Boon-read question

[Mumble]

You are in the circle of suspicion to have been saved/"given a save-use" by Vedith, based on what he said before dying.

Um...ok. Why?

Boon also found that comment on his own.

What comment?

But I have another guy I'm fairly certain got targeted by Vedith, and I think you might know who:

I don't. Care to enlighten us, or do you want to keep prancing about?

He is probably your teammate...

Seriously...this guy is just scum.

Also, you can answer previous question? plskthx.

[Mumble]

inb4 "This ALL feels very forced to me.... "

[Mumble]

Man, Mumble...your lack of talking about Fykus/LUV is worrying to me...

Why? I have no reason to scumread LUV, and I scum read Fykus.

Do you have specific questions you want me to answer?

[Mumble]

I could see LUV by association since Fykus soft pushed LUV (always promising a case but never delivered except "because of Mulch,") but he posited other LUV/x scum teams. Fykus completely ignored Una.

Which one is scumFykus more likely to do?

[Mumble]

Does scumLUV push Fykus that hard? Because what I see is LUV pushing for a Fykus lynch and settling on a random lynch, and he's still pushing Fykus today.

[Mumble]

This is good enough for me. You do scum read Fykus, and that's what I wanted to see.

?

Fykus/Una is where I'm at right now.

Fykus never engages or discuss Una. Una doesn't engage directly with Fykus, and tries to softly distance/defend while leave him open to being scum, and never pushes.

Spoiler: Una's Fykus Mentions

I'm pretty sure Skitter flips scum here so based on a quick skim of her wagon earlier, probably one scum in Croc and Una.

Third partner between Fykus and Mumble.

I already admitted as much to Eddie, but I can't fully agree with this.

I'd say yes to skitter, yes to Mumble, but no to me/Croc.

My third scum would have to be from random/Eddie (yes, I went there.)

1) Randomidget
3) Fykus
12) Firecrocer
13) Mumble

2/4 are scum. we only have 1 mislynch. when any of you 4 are on (or I guess 3 ) please talk to me. i do my best sorting via live interactions, boon / rc / mulch are the only people in this game I believe can keep up with tryhard Eddie. whoever's town, this is how you'll convince me. ftr, I town lean fire (sorry una) and fykus (sorry boon) coming into this.

I don't know if this is "dangerous content" to give (bah gawd, I could be setting up a chain of mislynches!), but my order of susp. and therefore order of lynches would be:
1) Mumble
2) Random
3) FireCroc (and I really honestly doubt this would even be necessary)
4) Fykus

IF, and I seriously doubt it after the latest, but IF Mumble flips town, this order would obviously need to be trashed, and I actually feel it would be likely at that point, that we have one scum in boon/Eddie/LUV (dislike the thought )
So Mumble should flip scum, and the worst case scenario after that for me, is that Random doesn't.

So I guess Rando/Fykus or Rando/LUV would have to be my guess for the scum team right now.

You had me nodding with your reasoning, so I can accept these. But LUV as scum without Eddie...I need to write when I get on computrr.

like, i dont get why mumble - fykus are becoming the big wagons, it doesn't really make sense to me.

..and this is why I was asking for opinions rather than just brute forcing either of these two wagons, I feel like there are chances to catch wonky interactions happening.

Like now, LUV voting Fykus makes no sense to me.

All that VCA points to is a pool of Fykus/Random/

Una

/Mumble

This is ridiculous..

Did you think Fykus protected me? Because I semi was thinking that after a little while yesterday, which is something that made me want to go Rando over Fykus. It almost felt to me like Fykus was trying to setup a fake claim with it, though, but never truly committed, which is another reason I'm stuck on Fykus, along with that Eddie Cane wagon.

You said you got a doc shot from night 1, am I correct?
And you used it N2 to try and save SOMEONE, right?

Fykus isn't the one I think has a doc-shot.
I might obviously be wrong, but I think Vedith protected scum N2, and was killed that same night.

Fykus

scum was trying to setup a fake claim with it, though, but never truly committed

Disclaimer: not saying Fykus can't be scum, and he COULD have been the one to gambit if he is scum, but someone else has the doc shot.
I think Vedith wouldn't have saved Fykus that night.

[Mumble]

oh, 1 fykus 1 luv. interesting

^

[Mumble]

I still think it's Una/Fykus. 2483 is pretty fake..."oh, it's in yours and eddies hands here. but what is done is done"

Bleh.

Also, pushing me while keeping LUV at L-1 in LyLo is bleh. It's either Una/Fykus or LUV/Fykus. Either way it's Fykus.

[Mumble]

Was super busy this weekend and meant to set v/la. Sorry.

[Mumble]

VOTE: Fykus

[Mumble]

Why? Nothing has changed that makes me re-eval my Fykus is scum stance.

I still think Mumble/LUV is scum with fykus.

You obviously think Fykus is scum too. Right?

[Mumble]

Told you una was scum.

[Mumble]

Fykus - be less scummy

[Mumble]

Ahahahahahaha!
I played you like a fiddle!

MY. FIRST. SCUM. VICTORY!

Why didn't you just hammer after I voted?

[Mumble]

Stop trolling.

[Mumble]

That doesn't answer why he didn't hammer Fykus when he had the chance to. Still waiting for it.

[Mumble]

Definitely well played by Boon. Had me nervous, but in the end I failed to see it.

[Mumble]

I thought you were scum.

I mean, respect for getting the W, but Boon pulled the wool over my eyes. Also, you should have hammered when you had a chance to secure the win instead of trying to make your partner sweat. That said, Fykus was going to be lynched no matter what, so I can see why you did it.

[Mumble]

Hey, Eddie. How's that 3-man Town Neighborhood working out for ya?

[Mumble]

wut?

[Mumble]

I don't troll.
My shitposting cap per thread is something like 3, and I tend to use them in RVS.

I'm sad Boon isn't online to explain.

I don't think I'm a reasonable mislynch anymore, so I decided to go for some theater.
Either me or LUV should be the NK.
The way Eddie and Boon have dragged each other to a 1v1, if either of mumble or LUV is scum, you can thank them at game end.

Be wary tomorrow Mumble, either of these two could be scum.
I'd give you more insight to our hood-thread if I didnt have floorball practice now.
I scumread Boon over Eddie today, but scum!Eddie had more reason to keep me around to this day.
Then again, Im not a threat to either, so..

Games actually over. Una and I won.

So which is it? Troll or not? I'm leaning toward troll.

Is this the longest twilight of all time?

[Mumble]

Mod was ready to replace me before prod timer expired, but full day twilight is ok.

Seems right.

[Mumble]

Talk about timing.

Yeah...we had no chance with that scum team.

But, I was right about the hood.

[Mumble]

Explains why Eddie was so defensive about it.

[Mumble]

I was at school the whole day jeez ;-;

I took my kids to school and worked all day, then ran 5 miles. Priorities man.

[Mumble]

What's the final role list?

[Mumble]

tbh, doesn't matter 3 goons with those players and town was f'd.

[Mumble]

Not bah at all. Scum played well.

[Mumble]

Love Una's comment in twilight about Eddie/Boon. That dude is smart. Total respect now.

[Mumble]

And I called them both scum and got lynched for it.

You got lynched by almost all town because you were scummy. It happens.

[Mumble]

And I called them both scum and got lynched for it.

You got lynched by almost all town because you were scummy. It happens.

Bah

? It's the truth.

Same reason I was left alive. Eddie and Boon knew they could control me through my emotions. It happens.

[Mumble]

Why did you fight me on it then?

[Mumble]

I was at school the whole day jeez ;-;

Keep forgetting your 10.

I'm not sure if that's sarcastic :/

Obviously is. You wouldn't be onsite if it was true.

[Mumble]

This was your first mod?

Awesome job, dude.

[Mumble]

GG guys. Eddie was fantastic, boon you were obvious but you still played well imo.

Fun game while it lasted and was lynched haha need to work on stop getting so angry when I am town

Least you didn't self-vote and it took all 3 scum to take you down

[Mumble]

Okay dude. But, they did.

[Mumble]

Point out where you called out all three as scum together plskthx.

Maybe next time, if your reads are so good, focus more on trying to stay alive to convince all of us bad town players.

[Mumble]

Point out where you called out all three as scum together plskthx.

Maybe next time, if your reads are so good, focus more on trying to stay alive to convince all of us bad town players.

???

Right I'll just stay alive when I happened to rand the role that deterred making the obvious nightkill and got strongmanned

Worked out so well for town. Thx.

Ignored my first point tho.

[Mumble]

Ok.

Scum played well. Gg.

[Mumble]

Hey, Eddie. How's that 3-man Town Neighborhood working out for ya?

[Mumble]

Answer: Quite well.

[Mumble]

Bleh. I don't like arrogance.

There are an innumerable amount of factors that could have changed the outcome. Take a win. Don't be arrogant.

[Mumble]

Fair enough. Sorry for assuming.