Large Normal 207: Theatre Mafia

[Dunkerdoodles]

12-3-3?

[Dunkerdoodles]

nvm that's bad for town
i remember a boon setup with town and 2 scumteams but they both had a traitor

[Boonskiies]

I also had 21 players. But generally I wouldn’t think that 15-3-3 is unbalanced. 12-3-3 could work, but it’s probably just 4-14. Or 14-3-1

[mozamis]

mulch what do you think of texcat scum?
who knows set up but i agree with boon oprob four man scum team?
i dont know why meow said that.

[Mulch]

mulch what do you think of texcat scum?
who knows set up but i agree with boon oprob four man scum team?
i dont know why meow said that.

About as likely as any other non town reads. Except meow slightly scummier for that comment

[texcat]

can we get a wagon going on Texcat please?

Why? How did you pick me out of your long list of lurkers? Do you know that I've never played a game without being voted for lurking?

[Dunkerdoodles]

can we get a wagon going on Texcat please?

Why? How did you pick me out of your long list of lurkers? Do you know that I've never played a game without being voted for lurking?

sounds scummy to me tbh

[Dunkerdoodles]

if he was town he wouldn't care

[Raskolnikov]

Okay was going to wait and see on this more but fuck it

VOTE: Mulch

Like 99% sure he's trying to hard buddy everyone he's played with before with bullshit meta reads and pushing on the rest. I don't think these reads are real in depth and especially carca seems out of line.
Don't see the fascination with multiball d1 coming from town either tbh.

[Raskolnikov]

Lol or anyone saying "I'm not scummy". Pretty typical town Dunker

Bullshit buddying

Boon ur obvious when ur scum

Bullshit buddying

Boon let's not focus on semantics. Also I would feel so bad lynching unah cause they are so fun to play with

Bullshit buddying

I sense a town win. I have too many townreads

Bullshit

hello friends

I see by user: Mulch's posting that we're already off to a great start

What do you mean?



Paranoia!Mulch is thinking this is either a multiball who is signalling to me because they think I signalled to them it's multiball, or a traitor trying to plant a false signal.

Bullshit moon logic

Many a town have been led to destruction by underestimatinh newb scum.

Moz, mulch, carca townbloc rn

Bullshit carca read and putting self in townbloc (Moz read is okay though).

This guy is full of shit and IDK why he's not getting called on it

[Raskolnikov]

I know as scum I try to work around people I know and generally unofficially bloc (people who know each other give each other benefit of the doubt) while keeping the rest as lynches. This is kind of blatant though and I don't think he's been asking questions/really sorting these people before putting them there.

[Raskolnikov]

But are peeps gonna sheep me or is mulch popularity going to save him versus this nobody?

[Mulch]

How can you know my Carca read is bad if you haven't asked me to explain it?

[Raskolnikov]

That said it's likely if mulch is scum for one or two of his townreads to be so as well (if not there's not so much point) but in that case it's likely to be of the relatively silent townreads/the lower-interaction ones unless he went next level and purposely tried to look like he was pocketing a buddy on purpose for a sick association, though that's PROBABLY going too deep in the rabbit hole atm.

[Mulch]

Also, if by "buddy" you mean act friendly, then yes I buddy as both allignments. Ask anyone.

Also, "moon logic"--- this is why I said it's a paranoia theory. It's not based in anything logical, just a random thought I had that's likely not to be the case.

Finally, I wanna know why you think town aren't interested in talking about multiball, and more importantly why you think it's bad for town to include themselves in town blocs.

Ty man

[Raskolnikov]

Dunk and moz I could see but how do you have a townread on carca and fykus?

Ive played with them a lot, basically. I have decent meta reads on them. Unfortunately they are hard to explain, it’s more of a general vibe, so you gotta trust me on it. Although, my weakest read might be Fykus. He’s capable of imitating his town meta I believe

[Mulch]

Oh yeah. So, what's your problem with that?

[Mulch]

Also fwiw I've gotten complaints in the past about being unfun to play with in games. Trying to change that with recent games lately. So, I am making an effort to be friendly.


And I also think that you are misinterpreting "buddying" with "townreads". Just because I townread someone dosen't mean I'm trying to pocket them

Finally, I am LAMIST in nature. I say things like "I'm town" or some variations all the time, as both scum and town. Eperienced players know that this isn't really allignment indicative, only playstyle indicative.

So, to conclude:

1) Why do you think that the townreads are neccecarily buddying and not just townreads?

2) Why do you have a problem with town putting town in townblocs, or with LAMIST statements, especially ones that are easily noticeable and I could get called out on?

3) Why would town not want to talk about multiball or setup spec day 1?


And we can go from there

[Mulch]

can we get a wagon going on Texcat please?

Why? How did you pick me out of your long list of lurkers? Do you know that I've never played a game without being voted for lurking?

sounds scummy to me tbh

if he was town he wouldn't care

I can see where your coming from, but I think I disagree. I care about being voted all the time, and I can see it being a touchy subject if I was always lynchbait.

[Raskolnikov]

Also, if by "buddy" you mean act friendly, then yes I buddy as both allignments. Ask anyone.

So basically your response is meta.

Finally, I wanna know why you think town aren't interested in talking about multiball, and more importantly why you think it's bad for town to include themselves in town blocs.

Multiball is generally more of a scum concern if it hasn't been confirmed and bringing it up d1 suggests extra information that points to it. Not impossible but not the crux of my vote either.

Putting oneself as town is admittedly common and probably just something that annoys me, but pushing it that early and repeatedly it shows a real concern over how you're getting read and appearance.

[Mulch]

So basically your response is meta.

Why yes indeed. You can't surely argue that being friendly towards people is allignment indicative, right? I mean, people do it as both allignments all the time. So, no need to

actually

back it up with meta. It's just something wrong to push on, and it's further invalidated by the fact I do it all the time

[Mulch]

Multiball is generally more of a scum concern if it hasn't been confirmed and bringing it up d1 suggests extra information that points to it.

Ok, yeah. Then- I would like to know. You dually disliked this (wrong, but reasonable) for being a signal... but then disliked my theory when I pointed out how people could be trying to signal back to me. You called it bullshit logic, when it was really my paranoia theory. Shouden't this indicate to you that I was well aware of how it could be contrived as a signal and was trying to maybe catch people because of it?

[Mulch]

but pushing it that early and repeatedly it shows a real concern over how you're getting read and appearance.

Welp. If your gonna scumread me for caring how I look to other people, this isn't gonna be a good game

I'm the first to admit that I care about looking towny, as town. What's wrong with that? I find that it's a misconception that people think town don't care about getting voted, or don't care how they look. OF COURSE they care how they look! That's why people take time to make their points in a presentable way, and why they give explanations. Indeed, it's our DUTY to make sure we are not lynched.


That being said, I think that while saying your town relates to perception in a rudimentary level, trying to find scum who truly are trying to only care how they are perceived is a lot more complex.

[Mulch]

Ok, I really like the train of thought your going with this. I'm gonna put you as town

I can see all the ways your going for this, and a lot of your ideas I had too when I was a much less experienced player (no offense intended).

This is probably gonna set you over the edge though

[Boonskiies]

I think Ras is likely town for that push on Mulch. I don’t think Mulch is scum, though, but I got the case.