Normal 1934: Civilization Mafia Mafia (Endgame)

[Ginngie]

I'd like to start by saying hello to nancy, who I killed because she intimidated me last game, and to Aristophanes, who I killed because he wasn't easy to lynch.

VOTE: Tchill13

Let's not make this game fast-paced and meme-ful. I'm already currently playing that is hard to follow. Instead, let's take our time to chew everything and make meaning out of everything.

I'm here to eat bananas and scum. And I'm all out of bananas.

VOTE: monkey



Also, does a good read this one does
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30907

Spoiler:

Yes I know the meme says 'your' instead of 'you're' but I'm too lazy to find a meme with correct grammar.

[Ginngie]

Hi nancy. This vote is to add weight to the Robbinva-PersephoneSidekick conflict. Basically, I want them to squabble while I observe from a distance.

Town.

Sounds scummy as if instigating a fight, but townAF for honesty

[Ginngie]

who is dumb enough to scum read Korts?

[Ginngie]

Did you you just say I said you were dumb to scum read Korts when I wasn't even aware someone scum read Korts?

[Ginngie]

Also, why did you not say why anything was alignment indicative?

[Ginngie]

As it needs clarification somehow, asking who scum reads Korts is really it.

Who is dumb enough to scum read Korts

Apparently you add the word dumb and people can't read

Watch this

Who is scum reading Korts.

Fucking magical being able to read at a first grade level

129, I asked how Tchill made me asking who scum read Korts as a personal insult.


Quite literally.

I ask a simple question.

Tchill goes.

I feel that you have directed that at me, so it's worth a vote.

When there are two things that are hilarious about that.

1st off, there was no correlation for him to make that claim.

2nd, even if he thought I was asking him why he scum read Korts, he chooses to vote instead of try to sort/ask questions/lay out a scum read OR At the very least, point me to where he talked about it beforehand.

See y'all tomorrow

[Ginngie]

Not to mention that's like the dumbest reason to vote somebody

[Ginngie]

The trick is figuring out which is which.

the magic of scumhunting instead of parroting is amazing

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Ari

scumzconfirmed

[Ginngie]

I'm not scumread by Tchill

[Ginngie]

It feels like Tchill is going after every single low hanging fruit and is seeing what works

[Ginngie]

Don't die

[Ginngie]

It's a joke, dumbass

[Ginngie]

Dark Horse can be town for now.

Nancy, don't you think Aristo is someone that will eventually sort himself? You seem to have a good amount of experience with him.

I can attest to this

[Ginngie]

Btw Eddie and Tchill is who we are lynching today

[Ginngie]

Oh we're lynching 2 people today? And 1 for trying to get conversation started? OK

Yee

[Ginngie]

you aren't lynching me ginger ninjer

Not today but tomorrow lol

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

@nancy, you engage with me because I'm actually good at this game. Tchill scum, vote so I can hammer

[Ginngie]

@nancy, you engage with me because I'm actually good at this game. Tchill scum, vote so I can hammer

You're bussing, aren't you.

100%

[Ginngie]

Stop being bad

[Ginngie]

Stop being bad

Why? You get to see who reads into every slot versus the people that only push the easy scum read day 1 just to get by. I've got a lot of scummy tendencies because I really don't care how I'm viewed if I'm town I care about scum hunting and lynching scum. It's funny because the real problem with my scum game is I DO care how I'm seen, obviously, and that's such a change of pace for me it usually gets me lynched pretty quickly because I'm not playing comfortably.

You are actually uncomfortable and care a lot about what you do and what people think of you tho

[Ginngie]

Ginngie what's wrong with any of my pushes here?

You're pushing a day 3 innocent child *shrug*

[Ginngie]

holy

[Ginngie]

There is 3 days left or so and if we can move onto voting Tchill...

[Ginngie]

But Korts isn't scum...

[Ginngie]

Also I'm pretty sure I told everyone about me being IC day 3 or no?

[Ginngie]

Lol well yeah it's a thing

[Ginngie]

I think you're a good player as either alignment but trying to have a conversation with you in mafia games feels like shredding my nails as I scale an interminable wall.

thats a yike

[Ginngie]

Spoiler:

Sup

VOTE: Robbnva for not voting. We must have blood.

why is me not voting scummy?

why is me not voting scummy?

Because we must have blood.

you don't even make sense

Dude, it's RVS; why are you expecting me to make sense?

But you didn't rvs so when you don't rvs you need to make sense.

Dude, it's RVS; why are you expecting me to make sense?

Because our goal as town should be to get out of RVS.

VOTE: PersephoneSidekick

VOTE: PersephoneSidekick

Sounds way too forced

why is me not voting scummy?

Because we must have blood.

We must have monkey blood.

VOTE: monkey

Wagon builds on PS/Eddie Cane.
TChill counterwagons onto monkey

VOTE: PersephoneSidekick

Just helping the wagon along.

No one latches onto the monkey wagon, he hops onto the wagon to bus

Spoiler:

2) When you have stated a townread on your partner and there's no reason for you to be voting them, don't randomly vote them because you feel like you should be on your buddy's wagon for towncred.

Honestly I feel like the reason for the wagon building on them right now is pretty stupid.

VOTE: robbnva

Gets told to feck off her wagon in PT and bounces out for sketch reasoning.




town-robb, korts, Ari, nancy, Ginn, Sunlit Diamond, monkey, massive, Darkhorse

scum-Eddie, TChill, Assemblerotws

Grendel scum if I'm wrong

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Tchill

[Ginngie]

I think players have been over looking Assemble for far too long. He has done nothing original, or meaningful this game.

wow, look at my scumteam pick

*claps hands*

People slowly realize I notice everything

[Ginngie]

Vecna replaces Aristophanes.

OH SHIT

[Ginngie]

Yo Robb, you scumread Eddie right.

They're partners!AF with TChill.

Flip TChill today, Eddie tomorrow.

*finger guns*

[Ginngie]

How are they partners? Nobody even agrees Eddie is scum so if you think he's scum maybe you can convince people to listen

Lol 393 read the game

If you see me actually make a noteworthy post, read it

[Ginngie]

im not sure whether im buying that you genuinely think you alteady caught 2 scum this early gin....

I don't, I caught all 3.

Again, read 393

[Ginngie]

Yo Robb, you scumread Eddie right.

They're partners!AF with TChill.

Flip TChill today, Eddie tomorrow.

*finger guns*

This looks like Ginngie is appealing to Robbnva.

Who knew promoting teamwork in mafia was pro-town when we have a mutual scrumread

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Aristophanes

I'm usually pretty scummy on day 1 and I don't remember really scum hunting very well on the first day either. My game gets better as the game progresses in day phases when there's more information such as flips and vote counts on the flips.

Your votes match up where your reads are....

[Ginngie]

You're not voting me either

[Ginngie]

BITCH IM THE ONLY ONE IN YOUR SCUM CATEGORY

BRO

[Ginngie]

I don't assume my reads are wrong until the mod tells me they're wrong.

Even then, mods are sods

[Ginngie]

I mean unannounced L-1

By Vecna

[Ginngie]

Shoot RC tonight

[Ginngie]

I was actually flip flopping on that. No ik who I'm shooting already.

If it's me, I am eternally grateful

[Ginngie]

Also youre not shooting anyone tonight

VOTE: Vecna

:3

[Ginngie]

Well that's a loaded straw man with a side of misrepresentation kind of statement you got there

[Ginngie]

I never once said any reason why I scum read you.

Literally anything you say about my opinion is literally false.

Straw man because your argument requires us knowing Tchill was a PR before he claimed that.

[Ginngie]

I mean unannounced L-1

By Vecna

Also, since when does putting someone on L1 get announced upfront? Also, if youre reading my posts you'll find plenty of posts indicating I was fine with lynching the slot.

Literally every Mafia game you announce.... you're experienced enough to not be that dumb

[Ginngie]

Also youre not shooting anyone tonight

Also youre not shooting anyone tonight

VOTE: Vecna

:3

[Ginngie]

Can you stop playing dumb?

[Ginngie]

Lol Korts double voted and that fucked up the count

[Ginngie]

Can you stop playing dumb?

No, youre the one acting dumb. Explain your actions and why you were lying about me putting him on L-1 to begin with, and why youre voting me out of the blue.

Me stating he's not shooting anyone after he put a vote on me seems rather logical from my pov, me being town wouldnt you think?

Also other reasons to scum read you but I'm too bored too explain

[Ginngie]

Wonderfull. Youre wrong though, but I guess if youre too -bored- to give me a chance to prove you wrong then......woo. Good talk

This is a horrible reaction.

You're basically rolling over going meh.

I expected a little bit more of a fight from you tbh

[Ginngie]

Not really, I'm just surprised you didn't scum read me for something so silly too vote apparently and a fire in your belly

[Ginngie]

Anyways lets actually put Tchill on L-1 now. He needs to be the one explaining himself here, not me.

Instead he throws out a premature claim, votes the next most likely target and runs away.

You dont think thats slightly suspicious of the guy that you've built large cases on Gin?

You're voting a town PR that can prove himself...

You can't push a scum win coin harder than that

[Ginngie]

Also, sorrryssss to nancy.


Was talking to RC in site chat one night about reading Ari.

Aggressive in his actions-town
Apologies a lot-scum

I dont have the energy for this game and I'm really sorry! Instead of stringing everyone along for 2 day phases like I normally do, Imma

Replace Out

now. I apologize!

I also am sorty to my replacement that I didnt even grt to the 20 post minimum and that it will be rounded to that. But I think you'll get them carried to tomorrow anyway so NBD!

[Ginngie]

"A townies most powerful weapon is their voice and their vote"

Votes aren't just "votes"

[Ginngie]

What if we make a quote wall saying "he can shoot someone, dumbass"

[Ginngie]

"I've played one game with him"

I've played with him about 10 times as both alignments

[Ginngie]

Apparently still not enough to get a good read on the slot if you think he was scum there Gin. Which I guess you didnt though, since you never stated any such thing.

Hey hey, wanna know a secret?

Spoiler:

i don't give a fuck

[Ginngie]

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[Ginngie]

Shouldve read between the lines Gin

You assume I read.

That was your first mistake

[Ginngie]

regardless, I don't think I'm ever going to look for your hint

[Ginngie]

\o/

[Ginngie]

babe I need you to vote :3

[Ginngie]

oh shit you bold your votes, I always use tags and keep track mentally

[Ginngie]

sorry for being so quiet but as you can see, I can kinda easily burn through all my posts in about a day or two of actually talking because I get aggressive >_>

After this I'll have 13 posts left in the day and I think I'll save that for tomorrow in case ya'll make me get up out of my rocking chair and whip votes.

[Ginngie]

jailkeepers sounds nice to fakeclaim when you're a roleblocker as scum :3

[Ginngie]

Eddie, Vecna, 5 votes, you vote, 6 votes. go

[Ginngie]

14 hours get votes in

VOTE: monkey

yeah I'm legit disgusted that most of the game dodged ALL DAY. I'll literally vote anyone at this point we need a lynch. if you're town you should feel bad unless you have a very legitimate irl reason

It's scummy to say this and also have started a vanity wagon.

There's a wagon at L-2 yet you haven't moved your vote.

same play occurred with Cloudkicker in Ari's Days of Yore british Mafia for reference.

I'm off to dreamland

[Ginngie]

Was it Eddie Cane's original thought that the scum didn't send an extension PM? Because that's a pretty sketchy thought out of nowhere. I didn't even think about that. It sorta feels like that's what he did.

VOTE: Eddie Cane

Let's flashwagon this?

get your vote back on Vecna

[Ginngie]

I hate normals

[Ginngie]

OKAY VOTE

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

VOTE: asssmbr

[Ginngie]

we got 8 minutes lmao

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: shitpost

[Ginngie]

[Ginngie]

VOTE: assemblrr

[Ginngie]

A no lynch is better for scum than a town lynch though, especially because of how much assembler has been lynchbait so far. I wouldn't call him scum strictly because of the no lynch

We didn't vote him yesterday because we no lynched

[Ginngie]

If TChill is Vig, and Vecna was JK, and Vecna said he was going to JK TChill, and actions resolve before kills- wouldn't that mean that TChill's vigshot didn't go through?

this basically.

I realize it could also be a SUPER handy cover up.

A Tchill/Vecna team yea.

Vecna dead tho so :3

Also, Tchill claimed before Vecna so it's not like Tchill could have planned that

[Ginngie]

With all the skim reading I notice he is being mentioned all but like... I don't care about him?

So that actually means he's likely scum for that reason.

[Ginngie]

didnt monkay man claim

[Ginngie]

I'm also a town PR \o/

[Ginngie]

No way assemblr is ever becoming obvtown in this game.

FTFY

[Ginngie]

Vote assemblr.

Not that hard...

[Ginngie]

I'm an IC dumbass

[Ginngie]

If you town read assemblr then explain why, otherwise you're going into the scumbucket for ignoring this.

[Ginngie]

Oh when I said PR, I meant as in a 'Power Ranger'

[Ginngie]

Day 3 \o/

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Eddie

[Ginngie]

So what if Rob is actually right on Eddie?

It really just sounds like a great way to discredit a person, I mean I haven't been reading but skimmin but for real, saying "dont listen he's just toxic" sounds like a great way to not address actual concerns.

[Ginngie]

So, what if we lynched town that day?

why would you have shot then?

[Ginngie]

I could have. Had we lynched town we would have had a wagon that went through to analyze. Then I would have shot whoever I felt was scum. I didn't want to give scum another townie kill. That's what we did with the no lynch.

How does you killing a townie without a lynch differ from when you kill a townie with a lynch?

It's objectively worse to not shoot

[Ginngie]

You were in Democracy in GiF's game.

She probably doesn't remember that because when a traumatic event happens, you tend to have no memory of it because you don't want to remember it.

All I know is that we signed up for that game, anything else, couldn't tell ya what happened >_>

[Ginngie]

Did I miss how we knew he was jailed by vecna?

Vecna said it, just look after Vecna claimed

[Ginngie]

It's literally grounds for lynching to fake claim an D3 innocent child and then come D3, the mod does not confirm you as an innocent child. What are you talking about?

Where did you learn this?

[Ginngie]

lol you've voted the people I've been wanting lynched!

I'm proud of you monkey! \o/

[Ginngie]

I am confusion.

you have me as scum

you're waiting for my IC to pop

However, reads wise, ignoring the IC,

you agree with me?

[Ginngie]

Tbh ever since getting into college my involvement has dropped drastically

[Ginngie]

lmfa fucking O


GAME REPLACEMENT

[Ginngie]

VOTE: The Game Replacement

[Ginngie]

why is Game Replacement at -12 posts

[Ginngie]

I'm voting the highest wagon

[Ginngie]

OH MY GOD

[Ginngie]

I CAN LYNCH TITUS


HEY GIRL, LOVE YOU, YOU'RE SCUM THO <3


:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Ginngie]

Eyeballed the vcs, why was I not lynched before?

>.>

This actually feels like a town post

P-edit: considering we no lynched, I'm doing highest wagon this go around

[Ginngie]

I think the closest he got too was 6 and that was because no one else was online, or they were online, and decided not to post

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: plz

[Ginngie]

oh lort.

[Ginngie]

I think the closest he got too was 6 and that was because no one else was online, or they were online, and decided not to post

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Math

okay.

[Ginngie]

It's also all of the people that can correctly read Math lmfao

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Titus

[Ginngie]

I see that you see no reason, still tho, vote it because it's scummy not to compromise

[Ginngie]

I know who targeted TChill last night. Here is the problem, there are two people. one is scum the other is a town power role.

dilemma time.

Now I will take a 1v1 town/mafia trade all day, but would like to avoid it if possible (technically 2, since I am outing myself too but whatever)

so, on your next post, claim if you targeted TChill. DO NOT TELL ME WHAT POWER YOU USED, just that you targeted him.

here is what is going to happen, scum is going to (probably) wait as long as they can to claim to see who the other player is. Also scum might just straight out lie (which is what I am hoping). If they do that, then we know for sure which one is scum and the other doesnt have to claim. Time to see who starts to lurk.

not going to post again until the two players claim or someone lies about targeting TChill.

[Ginngie]

Hi nancy. This vote is to add weight to the Robbinva-PersephoneSidekick conflict. Basically, I want them to squabble while I observe from a distance.

Town.

Sounds scummy as if instigating a fight, but townAF for honesty

HA

[Ginngie]

kinda prodge but not really cuz content?

Math/
Drixx/
massive/
Dark Horse/
nancy!
Grendel/
Gamma Emerald/
Game Replacement?

Also

Actually Ginngie, why did you claim day 3 IC? What was the benefit?

1. scum have no reason to think I'm a liar.
2. The longer I live with the IC claim, the more I learn my reads are ass.
3. Useless IC's usually live a long time actually.
4. point 3 helps keep me alive to do other things.
5. My favorite point, because I couldn't be assed to try and deal with the playerlist the way it was lmao

[Ginngie]

I will have words probs tomorrow because I'm doubting Game Replacement will have anything to say

[Ginngie]

I didn't Target TChill.
But this rings oddly familiar. Grendel and nancy I ask you to recall the first trustthedeceived game.

This is the first point with a spin.

Gamma Emerald shades my claim by referring to a scum game I played on a different sight where I hastily claimed a guilty on a player for the win in LyLo.

THIS IS okay to think because a guilty in LyLo is always sus, however it was pointed out by massive and Gamma acknowledged this point, that it was not MyLo.

so with me obviously not doing what I did before, the scum read expressed here:

Honestly I'm kinda shaken up now. Ginngie might actually be my top scumread for now. Still townread you and GR, but I'm feeling doubtful on Math.

Makes no literal sense.

It also doesn't make sense to scumread a player who basically has a guilty outside of MyLo.

Really tho, Math sums it up nicely with:

Gamma's responses to the PR claims are notably different than Rematch and he seems more interested in shading Ginngie than asking questions or finding out the truth. Him being shaken up could be shocked. Gamma's comment about Watcher cop reads like someone who knows too much or is complaining about setup balance for scum. She didn't claim Watcher. This sounds like Gamma rolecopped or guessed.

Also fun fact: "A Mafia or Serial Killer aligned Ninja is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Ninja cannot be seen performing a kill by Tracker, Watcher, Voyeur, Follower, or Motion Detector."

There isn't really a reason to think "too much power" when there are roles that can directly counter such things and there are really no scum flips.

MATH I KNOW YOU HATE GAMBITS. I AM SORRY. HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN WAITING A WHOLE DAMN YEAR TO PULL THIS OFF SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME

As for nancy, I'm waffling really hard to be honest. I didn't expect an actual claim to happen.


So my lynch pool is {Gamma, nancy, Game Replacement}

[Ginngie]

Alrighty, I learned this trick from my boy CKD, or curiouskarmadog. He's done this 3 times in his maf career and I waited an entire year and a playerlist that wasn't involved with Hunger games 2.

Spoiler: Also lol plagiarism

Subject: Hunger Games II [GAME OVER]

so lets play a game.

I know who targeted Ted last night. Here is the problem, there are two people. one is scum the other is a town power role.

dilemma time.

Now I will take a 1v1 town/mafia trade all day, but would like to avoid it if possible (technically 2, since I am outing myself too but whatever)

so, on your next post, claim if you targeted Ted.

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT POWER YOU USED

, just that you targeted him.

here is what is going to happen, scum is going to (probably) wait as long as they can to claim to see who the other player is. Also scum might just straight out lie (which is what I am hoping). If they do that, then we know for sure which one is scum and the other doesnt have to claim. Time to see who starts to lurk.

not going to post again until the two players claim or someone lies about targeting Ted.

Spoiler: Here is the handy dandy guide to how to use the gambit

Subject: Hunger Games II [GAME OVER]

Gambit –“ something done or said in order to gain an advantage or to produce a desired result”

I have done said gambit twice ever in my mafia career and both times landed scum with it. There has to be certain factors in play that make it work. There are several ways it could go wrong, but it has never failed to get scum.
So I claim to know that two people have targeted the person who died. One we are assuming is town the other we are assuming is scum. I ask for claims. I specifically don’t ask for roles, just claims.

Scum freak out.

If they lie, I supposedly will know. They will look bad. If they tell the truth, they look better and get in front of the supposed inevitable. They will lose a member, but take another (supposedly) town power role with them and hopefully first.

So scum will do one of three things.

1- They claim quick usually with a “great CKD you ousted two powers roles, you suck” type of post.

2- Claim that they don’t want to because (stupid) reasons.

3- Lurk as long as they can and completely ignore the question


So this is what we have.

Dunn- claimed to target Ted then took it back. (have not seen this happen before)

Froot- went this route.

STOP TALKING ABOUT ROLES AND WHAT HAPPENS AT NIGHT AND WHAT YOU DID OR DID NOT DO.

I swear, if this is something that needs to be said, this town will lose in record time.

Dunn/Jin/CKD are scum.

Lets be perfectly clear here, all I am asking is “who targeted the dead guy”, he refused to answer the question. Furthermore, he called me scum based on this? Really? He “thought” Creeps was town, when all things pointed to him being scum, but I claim to see someone target a dead guy and I am scum?




And Pine -

Fuck you for rolefishing, I'm not telling you who I visited, if I visited anyone, or what my role it. I am hugely not a fan of this paradigm of rolefishing.

End this. Pick the scummier and push a case on them. If they flip Town, THEN you should out yourself and lynch the other with fire.

@Town PR: Please do not reveal yourself. Even this bunny doesn't want you to.

This is a little more interesting. Again with the "don’t rolefish", but then follows up and asked the town power role not to claim. This is strange. I have already said I know who targeted Ted, why ask just the town not to claim? Why not say, no one claim? While appeal to just one of the people versus both of the people? Almost feels like you know who the other person is.

UA, midget ignored the question.

Hiphop hasn’t posted.

So yeah, I don’t have a watch type ability.

But if I had to guess,

At least one scum (maybe more) is among Dunn, Froot, and Pine in that order.

the gambit has never...never let me down.

and dunn claimed to target the dead guy.

VOTE: dunnstral

I didn't Target TChill.
But this rings oddly familiar. Grendel and nancy I ask you to recall the first trustthedeceived game.

This is the first point with a spin.

Gamma Emerald shades my claim by referring to a scum game I played on a different sight where I hastily claimed a guilty on a player for the win in LyLo.

THIS IS okay to think because a guilty in LyLo is always sus, however it was pointed out by massive and Gamma acknowledged this point, that it was not MyLo.

so with me obviously not doing what I did before, the scum read expressed here:

Honestly I'm kinda shaken up now. Ginngie might actually be my top scumread for now. Still townread you and GR, but I'm feeling doubtful on Math.

Makes no literal sense.

It also doesn't make sense to scumread a player who basically has a guilty outside of MyLo.

Really tho, Math sums it up nicely with:

Gamma's responses to the PR claims are notably different than Rematch and he seems more interested in shading Ginngie than asking questions or finding out the truth. Him being shaken up could be shocked. Gamma's comment about Watcher cop reads like someone who knows too much or is complaining about setup balance for scum. She didn't claim Watcher. This sounds like Gamma rolecopped or guessed.

Also fun fact: "A Mafia or Serial Killer aligned Ninja is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Ninja cannot be seen performing a kill by Tracker, Watcher, Voyeur, Follower, or Motion Detector."

There isn't really a reason to think "too much power" when there are roles that can directly counter such things and there are really no scum flips.

MATH I KNOW YOU HATE GAMBITS. I AM SORRY. HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN WAITING A WHOLE DAMN YEAR TO PULL THIS OFF SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME

As for nancy, I'm waffling really hard to be honest. I didn't expect an actual claim to happen.


So my lynch pool is {Gamma, nancy, Game Replacement}





can't believe I forgot to add those together. Hate wall posting, sorry about that

[Ginngie]

I'm honestly taken aback.

Something just doesn't feel right about you and me actually agreeing on something

I guess it's because neither of us have been the aggressive we usually are?

VOTE: Gamma

[Ginngie]

I mean, you can still say stuff about Gamma, you literally didn't say anything about him.

[Ginngie]

V/LA from Saturday, the 9th to literally whenever I can post again after the hurricane lol

[Ginngie]

When was this announced role madness?

[Ginngie]

Gamma dies today, I sort nancy tomorrow

[Ginngie]

Gamma dies today, I sort nancy tomorrow

This makes zero sense. Why gambit, get EXCITED about the outcome, and then refuse to follow the results?

You haven't been reading closely have you?

[Ginngie]

I asked "did you target TChill yay or nay"

Not "did you kill Tchill"

It is inaccurate to say that "target equals the kill.

I even saw a townie to fake claim targeting the kill to try and lure the real killer

Also AS SCUM against the gambit myself, we simply just said no.

We "knew" of the guilty, but that didn't matter.

What matters is what I listed.

The reaction is what is important and what I was ultimately looking for

[Ginngie]

im bored, hammer GAMMA

[Ginngie]

Did you read my points on Gamma?

tunneling so no

[Ginngie]

dingy

[Ginngie]

nancy claim

[Ginngie]

MASS CLAIM TIME

[Ginngie]

...wow

Massive obvScum says "I am a PR"

After nancy likely being honest to Ginngie's gambit/post/...whatever word you want to use.

People were circling around Massive so Massive was likely to go down.

He is clearly is scum.

Like why would you want nancy to claim when she is prob Town?

And there is nothing that says how many PRs are allowed in a game?

This gives me bad af vibes

considering you're a crumb king and all.

[Ginngie]

fuck that was saucy.

Not gonna lie that was a damn good pun.

[Ginngie]

Up in Aspen camping for the weekend but should check in before deadline. If there's anything you need from me ask now.

I need you to hardclaim

[Ginngie]

CLAIM BABE

[Ginngie]

._.

[Ginngie]

I don't even know the vote count but claim in the next post or I vote you.

You know I'm capable of doing something stupid so lets not okay?

[Ginngie]

X-shot sounds really weird given the setup

[Ginngie]

I'm not lynching outside of an explicit guilty where you can be held accountable

[Ginngie]

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Drixx, PenguinPower

scumfucks live here

[Ginngie]

where did Vecna go :3

[Ginngie]

You tracked both the N1 and N2 kill in the order that they were killed? Sounds about right...

oh that's hilarious

[Ginngie]

If I'm being deadass with ya'll.

If it really was the simple "lol I did the kill"

I'm gonna cry

[Ginngie]

nancy you have till the clock hits the next hour to tell me where he went I'm voting you.

[Ginngie]

VOTE: nancy

[Ginngie]

No votes

[Ginngie]

just realized we are not in Mylo lmao

Also I'll just win the game real quick in a second.

[Ginngie]

Ginngie pinged a little bit with the comment about x-shot not fitting in the setup. Hindsight shows that nancy was faking, but I don't see why or how that conclusion was reached.

FLASH BACK TO HUNGER GAMES AGAIN
Subject: Hunger Games II [GAME OVER]

and you are also fine with the fact that the doc claim doesnt make sense given the other protective roles in the game and the fact most of the town roles have been X shot.


ALL OF THIS

you are absolutely okay with?

now granted, the doc was town in that game.

This little bit always stuck with me in set up spec in general.

So I mean when you apply this to this game

You see unlimited shot roles flip up and down and then someone claims x-shot, it just feels really out of place.

I guess you can call it needle in the haystack? that's what it felt like anyway.

NOW FOR THE FUN PART

I know nancy's meta ~(^_^)~

[Ginngie]

Math is scum by association with nancy btw

[Ginngie]

Busy but compare interactions.

Robbvna was never questioned by nancy

However, was always defending Robb by questioning and saying scumreads on him didn't make sense.

Considering its quite clear that nancy fucked heavily with asking a lot of questione, giving reasoning for people.

She has no basis for her reads to justify the defense of that slot.

nancy scum will call the scummiest teammate town. Example when she said Math was town even after the horribad push by Math on her.

This was nancy going "I don't understand why you're trying to bus me or distance, when she will just go "let us just townread each other."

[Ginngie]

@Drixx, my mind is referencing every game of experience I've played in. Like I explained the reason I did set up spec so what else you asking for?

Also I don't understand why I'm not lock town ;~;

[Ginngie]

Gamma is town, you're not.

You're logic is that Gamma is scum because nancy was a counterwagon is flawed because nancy was scum.

It's actually kinda bad in a vaccum and not just an association

Math I don't care about any of your responses?

You're the first I've analyzed using meta I know of nancy and actual analysis comparing to others.

When I'm done doing everyone else then maybe I'll reconsider but I'm not.

Also you went "hey but self meta and skills" instead of attacking my reasoning and telling me I'm wrong.

That just adds to the fact that you're trying to fight the argument using points that don't even matter

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Math

[Ginngie]

For Drixx, my mind, mapped out.

Drixx/Korts
PenguinPower/Game Replacement/Eddie Cane/ Perse
Gamma Emerald/Sunlit Diamond/ Draynth
####Mathblade/Robbnva
Grendel/Kaboose
line in da coconut/Dark Horse



Math/Robb scum
-no interactions wiht Robb but heavy defense
-no Math interactions and still defended
-town read for no explicit reasons

GE/Sunlit/Draynth
-no mention of Draynth
-same for sunlit
-scumread GE pre-gambit



Drixx, PP, GE, Math, Grendal, lime

Gin/GE


who left PP, Drixx, Math, Grendal, lime


PP/Game Replacement/Eddie
-1181, nancy pushes a Eddie scumread by posting a case on eddie scum

Gin/GE/PP

who left, Drixx, Math, Grendal, lime


Drixx/Korts
-really muddy interactions
-hard to tell
-brownie points for nancy digging at the robb push
-1015 causes confusion
-little to no interaction with drixx


Gin/GE/PP

who left Drixx, math, Grendal, lime


grendal/kaboose
-nothing on Kaboose
-1342 grendal leans town from interactions
-1366 lean TvS
-1417/1421 leans distancing
-1422 tips the scale to town


Gin/GE/PP/Grendal

who left Drixx, Math, lime

[Ginngie]

Like i vote Gamma.

Gamma OMGUS's.

How much plainer can this be?

It's scummy that your argument is OMGUS by Gamma

When you seem to have completely forgotten that "guilty" you had earlier....

For real, if you actually had a guilty, then you would be yelling at me mad stupid or talking like massive did.

At this point you're going to try and bring it back up but lol it's not going to mean a damn thing

[Ginngie]

nteresting Ginngie: what makes you say I have a guilty on Gamma?

And if so why weren't you following it?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Imho obvious from yesterday.

Will post more when I can Wednesdays suck for Mafia for me.

Why is it "obvious"?

*snore*

This ice cream might melt of boredom.

Prod Dodge because literally nothing has happened.

Vanilla ice cream kill Gamma Emerald

Try it I dare you.

Will type a long ass post why when I get home but you+nancy is incredibly obvious. Else why would nancy roll over?

After a flipped vanilla cop you're basically claiming to be "the main" vanilla cop.

yet you haven't claimed that and you would have at L-1.

Doesn't make any logical sense.

[Ginngie]

Interesting Ginngie: what makes you say I have a guilty on Gamma?

And if so why weren't you following it?

This post is wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to begin. I'm at a loss for words as far as my gimmick goes because I don't have any clever quip prepared for this level of wrongness. I'm not going to call the whole post a steaming pile of shit because there are parts to it that are fine (which I have edited out). But nothing you've said in here is accurate.

nancy absolutely does handle a partner the way she handled Gamma. Gamma Emerald was the main wagon because he's just that obvious scum.
In spite of us having a hard guilty on nancy I'd even still be willing to lynch Gamma for this very reason; I guarantee you he does not flip town here. The most scummy aspect of Mathblade's play is how there hasn't been anything scummy in Mathblade's play. They bleed town every step of the way and that's the closest thing to a warning sign possible from their play this game. Even there I have doubts. And for the record the meta is backwards. Mathblade doesn't bus much. (They do but only when it's unavoidable.)

Fyi your meta on me is wrong lime.

I bus a lot and I bus never.

I have toned it down a lot since starting on site but I bleed Town always.

Especially when I am Town.

This is literally all narrative.

I'm town, I'm town, i'm town don't you see?

While not actually describing a single thing you did this game. It's bullshit :3

Also, someone who isn't Gamma, and actually Grendel can attest. nancy doens't bus. No matter what.

May 29, 2017 20:00:05 GMT -4 dykecentral said:
Ginngie

I gave you EVERY out

to make that a non-scumclaim hammer

WHY YOU SO LAZY

quote 2:
giga babe

just one thing I'll say

you got too much knowledge about the game

you seem like an insider

pls don't be an insider

actually two other things I'll say

ginngie ain't scums

she the towniest town to ever town and that was a GLORIOUS hammer

and please be calms

all is well

no freaky out

She will always find a way to not push her teammates

Also, scumread Gamma pre-gambit as per my notes. That's the most important part about it.
It wasn't "a bus because a guilty"
It would have to be a bus with no reason for it and nancy don't fuck with that.

[Ginngie]

I haven't claimed it and I haven't not claimed it either.

There is usually intent before a claim.

And by those posts I would be claiming Vanilla day vig which I am obviously not or Gamma would be dead.

what was the fucking purpose of it.

[Ginngie]

I disagree on a fundamental level. Robbvna was questioned by nancy,

where

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Drixx

[Ginngie]

It's either you or Drixx

your pick.

[Ginngie]

Gamma Emerald (4): Mathblade, Ginngie, nancy, lime in da coconut
nancy (1): massive
Mathblade (0):
lime in da coconut (0):
Drixx (0):
Grendel (0):
massive (0):
Ginngie (0):
PenguinPower (0):

Not Voting: Gamma Emerald, Grendel, Drixx, PenguinPower

So Grendel, Drixx, and PP didn't hammer here very easy to do so given nancy was the guilty.

So with my slot and nacy, where are the last two scum?

It's funny you say this.

Why

because it would appear more scum would be on the wagon than not if you follow your logic.

[Ginngie]

I am saying if Gamma Town then scum would have hammered the instant a nancy wagon started popping up.

The real question is why none of those four off did.

scum already being on the wagon :3

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Math

yeah I still dig this.

[Ginngie]

I actually like the thought of Math/lime scum

[Ginngie]

You're actually playing dumb on fucking purpose.

[Ginngie]

LMAO he's been clear for a while that it was a gambit

[Ginngie]

This is such fucking bullshit.

You're a crumb hunter and as either alignment assume bullshit about people's roles.

You pay real close attention to detail and you would have picked up on massive DIRECTLY CLAIMING a backup to a cop with a guilty on nancy.

You WOULD HAVE SEEN MY LONG EXPLANATIONS ABOUT THE GAMBIT

AND WHY I WAS PUSHING IT.

HOLY FUCK WAIT.

After nancy likely being honest to

Ginngie's gambit

/post/...whatever word you want to use.

YOU COGNITIVELY KNEW IT WAS A FUCKING GAMBIT

[Ginngie]

Also the first post is after massive claimed a guilty on nancy so that doesn't really make sense?

SHE QUICKLY READ NANCY FROM TOWN TO SCUM

*because of a guilty*

BUT STILL!

Is weak.

I deadass was townreading nancy the whole game and then switched right to scum once massive hit.

Hell, I townread her so much I IGNORED HER CLAIMING A KILL.

[Ginngie]

Her pushing Gamma knowing she would die is what I would expect if they are teammates.

It's not like I said she was pushing Gamma before the gambit

[Ginngie]

i swear to god

okay how's this.

She was pushing Gamma before day 3.

Fuck.

[Ginngie]

I apologize for frustrating you Ginngie. So scum!nancy pushing Gamma (before she scum claimed) means he should be in the probtown/paranoia pile?

yee, I've been analyzing patterns in how nancy deals with each player.

Every town player matches up how nancy treated gamma

[Ginngie]

vote count?

[Ginngie]

VOTE: math

[Ginngie]

I'm bored

[Ginngie]

did we mass claim yet?

[Ginngie]

I am not claiming fyi.

Reasons.

>Be town
>Not VT otherwise claimed it
>Is a PR at L-1
>Doesn't claim results or actons
=/=protown
>Actually be scum

[Ginngie]

I don't see it nor do I care

[Ginngie]

Mainly it is a divided pair.

Either you and Grendel or Drixx and PP.

Mainly you if Town I can't figure out why you wouldn't be hammered if Town.

And if you are scum because of that then the only partner that makes sense is Grendel.

However PP is not following his Town meta and it feels like he is being forced to decide between bussing or me.

I don't see worlds with Ginngie or Lime scum.

you literally just said

IF you mean leave a lasting impression yes.

Drixx and PP final answer or Ginngie + Grendel.

Those are the only two teams.

And if I am wrong well played scum.

[Ginngie]

Drixx or Math

can we just bloody pick already

[Ginngie]

VOTE: Drixx

plz hammer

[Ginngie]

Innocent child Day 3

[Ginngie]

Player	Claim
Ginngie	IC Day 3
Grendal	VT
Gamma	VT
PP	No Claim
Math	No Claim

[Ginngie]

Lynch Penguin
I'm dead
Grendal/Gamma/Math

I could lose to any scumbutt in there

[Ginngie]

VOTE: PenguinPower

tbh tho just hoping this is as far as we need to go to win.

[Ginngie]

I WAS USELESS

[Ginngie]

who is dumb enough to scum read Korts?