A Mid-Scummer Night's Dream - D.S. al Fine

[Sakura Hana]

At this point...
im forcing myself...
to help out...
But i would rather...
take a very long break...

[Regfan]

This might sound nuts but if you put a gun to my head and asked me to tell you the scum team I'd say LLD reg and drealmerz.

This a 1) "I have scum reads on these 3 people", 2) "I think these people are scum via PoE" or 3) "I think these people make the most sense together as scum" type statement, if it's one of the first two would like to run through either your individual reads on all three listed / reads on the others that you're ruling out to lead to that PoE. And if it's the last scenario would like you to run through why you think that scum team makes the most sense game state wise. Also would like your thoughts on no lynching earlier in the day phase or holding off and doing it later if that's the plan, which is optimal/why?

I've been thinking...
that regfan...
is just...
hard buddying me...

Need to drop the paranoia here. Not scum and you knowing that I had the ability to hand out a vest and outright stating that you'd picked me to give that power to is something that 100% makes you town from where I'm sitting, there's zero world where a scum team gives that power to me and then shoots Floodgates. Behavior tells pointing strongly towards you being town is just icing really.

Do you agree with my town read on Serra here? Y/N? What do you think we're looking at re; the scum team inside the 5 names I put forward above?
Understand you don't want to high effort in this game and are forcing yourself to do something, I'm in a similarish boat but

some

thoughts on this would be appreciated.

[drealmerz7]

really wish maria would not self vote

kind of lost on who is scum now, good just lynching LLD but...yeh
am back to it could be any of sakura, ceph, TWIE, paladin, LLD, hebi

I've had stronger and more TRs this game than I've had ever before and they've all died cept regfan

I would have been a good doc this game

[Cephrir]

@reg

I'm getting paranoid about you partly because of the stuff you've said about practically never losing as town -- you haven't been playing lately like someone who has their heart in the game and I would think someone with that kind of record wouldn't be likely to lose motivation. Moreover, it occurred to me that LLD's actions towards you could absolutely be bussing, and in fact that she is known for bussing. I also felt her non reaction today after presumably hiding or pretending to hide behind you, that is to say not mentioning it at all, was curious. I think she's scum because I have read her play in this game. Dreal is just the most likely scum to me on play out of everyone else, he's not roughly jack that was town motivated ever.

[Cephrir]

Anyway it's just a theory

And yes I'm still voting NL today. No reason not to try for a dream right?

[hebichan]

VOTE: Regfan

Regfan/Drealmz, lets do it.

[Cephrir]

[Cephrir]

If we were lynching today, that is definitely not the order in which we would lynch.

[hebichan]

It should be.

[drealmerz7]

ceph, can you please elaborate on what makes you think my play is by the far the scummiest?

[Cephrir]

sure here you go

viewtopic.php?p=9644017&user_select%5B% ... 5#p9644017

[Cephrir]

but really between you serra and twie i thought both their predecessors were town but i've never thought you were

[hebichan]

Hey Cephrir, I want a lynch today. Lets do drealmers.

VOTE: Dreal

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really do want to lynch drealmerz today tbh. I'm realizing that if we don't do this today, one person might just speed vote me tomorrow and a 3 man team could make me v. sad.

Even if it isn't theoretically possible for us to lynch scum today, I don't think scum will stick out their necks for drealmerz.

Let's do this.

[Cephrir]

Hey Cephrir, I want a lynch today. Lets do drealmers.

VOTE: Dreal

Why do you want a lynch today?

[hebichan]

Hey Cephrir, I want a lynch today. Lets do drealmers.

VOTE: Dreal

Why do you want a lynch today?

Because I, and many others will lose even more motivation when yet another active town member dies tonight.

and the death will be me/serra/or you

I want to get the obvious scum out now while we still have some morale.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In my mind there are two worlds.

The world where my results are TRUE and the world where my results are FALSE POSITIVES due to dream sensitivity interactions. In this post, I will discuss both worlds.

In the world where my results are true, the end result is very simple. Hebi and Regfan are conf. town. Sakura is basically town by ability. Leaving 4 options, Ceph/Serra/TWIE/Drealmerz.

Of those 4, Serra is the most town, based on Cephrir's ability being more useful to scum than town, Drealmerz being a scummy fuck and TWIE being a lurk fuck.

So Drealmerz/Cephrir/TWIE, probably.

In the FALSE POSITIVE world, Hebi and Regfan aren't cleared, but I'm STILL certain Hebi is town. Sakura and Serra still town, leaves us with:

Regfan/Drealmerz/TWIE/Cephrir.

Of THESE 4, the most town is Cephrir, based on how he tried to use his power, how he claimed it, and general voting patterns from memory.

In EITHER WORLD, only two people show up consistently. Drealmerz and TWIE. Of the two, TWIE is most likely to be the one I'm wrong on, given lurking is harder to read, and I could be fooled. I'm not fooled by Drealmerz.

Hence, Drealmerz lynch today satisfies both worlds, and will flip scum every time.

[Cephrir]

Hey Cephrir, I want a lynch today. Lets do drealmers.

VOTE: Dreal

Why do you want a lynch today?

Because I, and many others will lose even more motivation when yet another active town member dies tonight.

and the death will be me/serra/or you

I want to get the obvious scum out now while we still have some morale.

I don't think morale can get much lower than it currently is, and I'm not going to play suboptimally because maybe we'll feel better.

[Cephrir]

you guys and your worlds.

[hebichan]

Hey Cephrir, I want a lynch today. Lets do drealmers.

VOTE: Dreal

Why do you want a lynch today?

Because I, and many others will lose even more motivation when yet another active town member dies tonight.

and the death will be me/serra/or you

I want to get the obvious scum out now while we still have some morale.

I don't think morale can get much lower than it currently is, and I'm not going to play suboptimally because maybe we'll feel better.

It's optimal to almost always go into lylo tomorrow instead of at least trying to lynch scum?

I get it's harder to lynch here but not trying isn't a town move.

[Cephrir]

I want a dream. That's it.

[Cephrir]

I'd also love to be shot, but that's a pipe dream.

[hebichan]

But the dreams have been 1. useless 2. bad all game. The best we've gotten is a bullet proof.

Why wait on something that could be negative?

[morph the cat]

aaaa

[morph the cat]

nnnndddd