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[UC Voyager]

10v3.....thats chill.......3 PR town 2 PR mafia

im not sure about the whole fake vanilla cop thing because when vanilla cop dies, mafia can see who is PR town, so they can start taking them down at night.......
plus maf can fake a townie PR and get real PR killed.......
not the most secure plan.....

[Rhah]

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

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Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

[UC Voyager]

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

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Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

whoa. chill out there. im only at three votes. lol. and this just started yesterday, so i mean. a little early to be saying that....UNVOTE:
taken the vote off rhah for now

[CheekyTeeky]

UCV if you're town I'm going to be mad. You're so obviously scum that it makes me think you aren't...but then you are, right?

[UC Voyager]

UCV if you're town I'm going to be mad. You're so obviously scum that it makes me think you aren't...but then you are, right?

how am i obv scum!!!!i mean. all i did was say that i dont think people should make reads without having information to back it up and then everyone goes off on me. then i do the list thing and everyone says dumbtell alert. if i were scum, would i really pull a dumbtell. the most scummy move that it isn't even scummy because no scum would even try to do it.....i only did that so no one would be like "well how are you sure there are 3 maf"....because it would've happened.

[UC Voyager]

just isolated myself, and found nothing other than that. i said it was a bad idea to read/vote without reasoning and the "dumbtell"

[Rhah]

whoa. chill out there. im only at three votes. lol. and this just started yesterday, so i mean. a little early to be saying that....

I consider lynching people because you don't want them in endgame bad practice. From the way UnabomaH worded it, that's what it looked like to me moreso than an actual scumread on you. At the moment I'm not putting a whole lot of weight on this thought unless he gives me reason to do so.

UCV if you're town I'm going to be mad. You're so obviously scum that it makes me think you aren't...but then you are, right?

I had planned on calling you mafia, but it was immediately overshadowed by UC being scummier, I think.

[UC Voyager]

Rhahs iso

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

RVS. no reason to complain

UC Voyager... you appear to be acting coy. It does not bode well.

i dont understand what you mean. how was i "coy"

I'd also like to head necro's reasoning for his UC read but ATM he's my only townread for his refusal to share it.

You consider withholding a read to be indicative? Because that's an easy move for mafia to make, as well. And it is not uncommon.

actually. it isnt indicative. it just doesn't make since to say something without any evidence

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Rhah. Reading without reason is just as indicative as voting without reason. Voting and reading based on gut dealing doesn't work...I have seen to many people die that way, or not die that way.

You are implying necro has no reason for his read, when it is implied he has one and did not state it... one could infer he is mafia, but they shouldn't for the reasons you seem to be suspecting him for. Simply because a read can be faked. It is easy to create things. It's easy to act aloof. This is a game of pretenses and motivations, after all. I do think you're deliberately choosing to view things a certain way at the moment.

he didn't say he had a reason, but didn't state it. he just said i feel like UCV is town......

Hmm... Apologies if I apply pronouns incorrectly. I will try not to going further.

nothing to say here. lol. XD

Oh. Ooookay

Now that we've established that I cannot read

If you didn't read the Open Setup displayed in the OP, what did you read exactly?

ima be honest. here is what im feeling

town
me (duh.)
Necro
CheekyTeeky
Zulph
Morality
Wave Mode

mafia
Rhah
??????'
????? (possibly. idk. might be 3)
???????? (probably not 4 lol)

I think you're more likely to be town now because I would have expected scumYou to take the easy and expected route and call necro scum.

I disagree with this; if UC is scum, what would he have to gain from calling someone who openly townreads him 'scum' this early in the game?

Talk about unnecessary conflict.

Well... both of your assumptions are sort of surface level in a way. The mafia can't be afraid of conflict anyway, given that their nature is to drive mislynches. This post gives me scum vibes on Luca. I would say I'm getting that vibe from his tone, as well. To be determined.

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

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Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

im getting scum reads on rhah. he has introduced himself to a few people by attacking them. even in the RVS he was.

Well. For me it goes, ----> identify scummy behavior ----> call it out. By definition, that constitutes attacking. You got me, buddy. I'm still not sure what you're trying to say here but I know it doesn't make sense. The rest of your reads feel rather weak.

well the issue is. you kind of had only "peeking" as a reason to try and call out choas. you know you could have said (hey peeking isn't always the best idea).

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

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Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

dude. im only at 3 votes. is that enough to try to say that i will be today's lynch. (yup guys. he is at l-4. he is today's lynch for sure???

[UC Voyager]

oh
that was in the wrong spoiler

[UC Voyager]

uhhh. give me a little.......erg

[Rhah]

My eyes.

[UC Voyager]

Rhahs iso

Spoiler:

Hey.


VOTE: UC Voyager

RVS. no reason to complain

UC Voyager... you appear to be acting coy. It does not bode well.

i dont understand what you mean. how was i "coy"

I'd also like to head necro's reasoning for his UC read but ATM he's my only townread for his refusal to share it.

You consider withholding a read to be indicative? Because that's an easy move for mafia to make, as well. And it is not uncommon.

actually. it isnt indicative. it just doesn't make since to say something without any evidence

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Rhah. Reading without reason is just as indicative as voting without reason. Voting and reading based on gut dealing doesn't work...I have seen to many people die that way, or not die that way.

You are implying necro has no reason for his read, when it is implied he has one and did not state it... one could infer he is mafia, but they shouldn't for the reasons you seem to be suspecting him for. Simply because a read can be faked. It is easy to create things. It's easy to act aloof. This is a game of pretenses and motivations, after all. I do think you're deliberately choosing to view things a certain way at the moment.

he didn't say he had a reason, but didn't state it. he just said i feel like UCV is town......

Hmm... Apologies if I apply pronouns incorrectly. I will try not to going further.

nothing to say here. lol. XD

Oh yeah. Found it interesting how Chaos opens up with just talking about peeks.

Well that's not true at all. I voted them and suggested a claiming strategy unrelated to Cheeky.

VOTE: Rhah

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Not a fan of Luca right now either; going to keep that close to the vest for now.

I would like for you to tell me to tell me what is not true. Your first post is a naked vote and then you proceed to... talk about peeks. In what way is my observation dishonest? Also, this being the second thing you decide to post in the game thread strikes me a certain way. It's not a good feeling. Nevermind that you actually accompany your post with a vote on me.

I misread peeks as a shorthand for Cheeky.

UNVOTE: Rhah

Alright, now that I can actually read what you're saying, let's try this dialogue again. Why would you find it interesting that I only talked about setup strategy with my first post given that the only other things posted were greetings and random votes?

I think you chose to consciously emphasize the strategy. It just reminded me of how mafia will attempt to "solve" in RVS. I doubt that this is indicative of your alignment though.

What are peeks?

I'm used to (hypo) cop claims being referred to as peeks, I can't say it's something I do a lot.

Oh man, I pretty much missed the RVS..

On the other hand, I got to read some more when starting, and I have currently no trouble going for a VOTE: UC Voyager.

We do not need this in late game anyway, based on the things I have seen so far.

One of

UC Voyager, Zulfy, Rhah

is scum to me, interested in seeing their respective progressions.

So are you policy lynching UC? Cause that's what it looks like. Also, neat pool. How did you get there?

dude. im at 3 votes.......that is it!!!!!

[UC Voyager]

sorry about that.......i hit the wrong spoiler......

[UC Voyager]

My eyes.

my bad. i meant to do

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so it would look like

Spoiler:

blablabla

but did

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and it looked like

blablabla

mafia bloopers.

[Rhah]

UC Voyager... you appear to be acting coy. It does not bode well.

i dont understand what you mean. how was i "coy"

Sorry, at this moment I don't feel like putting the words together. You tried to look like you were innocent. That was the impression your play initially gave me.

Rhah. Reading without reason is just as indicative as voting without reason. Voting and reading based on gut dealing doesn't work...I have seen to many people die that way, or not die that way.

You are implying necro has no reason for his read, when it is implied he has one and did not state it... one could infer he is mafia, but they shouldn't for the reasons you seem to be suspecting him for. Simply because a read can be faked. It is easy to create things. It's easy to act aloof. This is a game of pretenses and motivations, after all. I do think you're deliberately choosing to view things a certain way at the moment.

he didn't say he had a reason, but didn't state it. he just said i feel like UCV is town......

it is implied

dude. im only at 3 votes. is that enough to try to say that i will be today's lynch.

I imagine so. I'd say I'd aim for that, considering I think you're going to flip mafia. But there's something about you that makes me want to toss that out the window. Unfortunately for you, that "something" isn't tangible and I haven't seen it manifest in the form of your actions at the moment.

[Rhah]

well the issue is. you kind of had only "peeking" as a reason to try and call out choas. you know you could have said (hey peeking isn't always the best idea).

You're going with the assumption I called him out as in scummy. When I said as much that it wasn't that indicative in way of his alignment. You seem to view all type of pressure as an attack, or that's what you're framing my push as.

[CheekyTeeky]

UCV if you're town I'm going to be mad. You're so obviously scum that it makes me think you aren't...but then you are, right?

I had planned on calling you mafia, but it was immediately overshadowed by UC being scummier, I think.

You do realise that there are 3 scum slots? Why not put me in one of them? Do you have other scum reads that are overshadowed by the UCV circus?

[UC Voyager]

how is it implied though?????like i mean. he didnt say anything, but i think UCV is town. i know implying is to say something without saying it, but there was no way to say anyone was town or scum then. im not saying necro i scum or anything, but it doesn't make since to....

Push...Attack....you knew what i meant

[CheekyTeeky]

Also in regards to Una, although I don't usually agree with policy lynching, I believe the thought process to do so usually comes from town. UCV keeps digging a scum hole for himself (which I'll break down shortly) and this only makes it easier for scum to hide (as rhah 's weak scum read on me proved) and distracts town from finding scum. I could think that mentioning a PL is LAMIST but Una's surrounding post leads me to believe otherwise.

[UC Voyager]

i dont understand how the hell i am scum!!!!!!
someone explain!!!!!!!

[Zulfy]

I consider lynching people because you don't want them in endgame bad practice.

Haven't you ever been bitten in the ass in LYLO?

[Rhah]

You do realise that there are 3 scum slots? Why not put me in one of them?

Consider your wish granted.

Do you have other scum reads that are overshadowed by the UCV circus?

Loosely.

Luca Blight
necro
CheekyTeeky
[Zulfy/Vanderscamp]

how is it implied though?????like i mean. he didnt say anything, but i think UCV is town. i know implying is to say something without saying it, but there was no way to say anyone was town or scum then. im not saying necro i scum or anything, but it doesn't make since to....

Push...Attack....you knew what i meant

From my experience, when someone gives a naked read, they almost always have a reason for that read besides "no reason". This is usually always established. You're doing that thing though, so I'll probably be moving my vote off of you when it's convenient. Your play is now veering off hardscum and veering into "the mislynch I knew was a mislynch but still ended up hitting", though those lines do cross. I'll wait to see more from people.

I consider lynching people because you don't want them in endgame bad practice.

Haven't you ever been bitten in the ass in LYLO?

By the mistakes of myself or those of competent people. Not by the fabled "policy lynch" that should have happened, no.

[UC Voyager]

moving on

im having scum reads with Luca and Rhah. more rhah than Luca

im having townreads on necro still. as well as Zulfy, and a few others who i only know by avatar....

[Flairs]

Vote Count 1.3

Zulfy (3): Chip Butty, Morality, Luca Blight
UC Voyager (2): Rhah, necro
Rhah (1): acidphoenix
CheekyTeeky (1): Zulfy
Vanderscamp (1): CheekyTeeky

Not voting (2):

UnaBombaH, Vanderscamp, wavemode, ChaosOmega, Zulfy

With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, October 17, @ 3 PM EST (expired on 2017-10-17 15:00:00)

[Rhah]

and this only makes it easier for scum to hide (as rhah 's weak scum read on me proved)

Let me put my feet up. You don't have to start discrediting me right away.