Mini Normal 1948: BooneyToonz V - The Boon 'N Bed Express!

[Chip Butty]

Okay, I'm out of here for a while. Try not to fuck up while I'm gone, town folk @lamist

[Chip Butty]

The amount of people I'm comfortable with being in lylo right now if it comes to that is zero lol.

so i take it you are not comfortable with yourself being in lylo

Lol

[Chip Butty]

hardclaim cop with red on mulch
VOTE: mulch

VOTE: mulch

LMAO

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles


You can't have targeted me last night LOL

Can you guys check this theory and tell me if I'm being dumb here:

1. Town.Mulch commutes N1
2. Town.Dunker shoots Mulch N1, but learns his shot didn't go through and concludes Mulch is scum.
3. Town.Dunker hardclaims cop to prevent Mulch from fakeclaming commuter, and accuses Mulch.
4. Scum.Fykus, who didn't force-commute Mulch at all, and thus doesn't know that a cop investigation of Mulch wouldn't go through, jumps on the Mulch wagon.
5. Mulch knows a cop investigation of him would have failed and suspects Dunker of fakeclaiming.
6. 1v1 clusterfuck etc.

So...Town.Mulch, Town.Dunker, Scum.Fykus

Also, enchanted princess sounds like someone is taking the piss...

I still want to hear from Fykus why he voted Mulch at #699. There were two alleged reasons to vote Mulch:

1. Because Fykus commuted him and there was no NK. But if this, why did he only go after Fykus after Doodle claimed at #698?

2. Because Doodle claim at #698. But if Fykus really commuted Mulch, as he claimed, he would have known a cop investigation on Mulch would fail.

So neither of these work. So, Fykus boy, me bob, why did you vote Mulch at #699?

[Chip Butty]

No more stalling. Carca claimed a lon time ago.

[Chip Butty]

But if you knew the Dunk result was false, as you should have if you really commuted Mulch, why would you do that and not vote Dunk for fakeclaiming instead?

[Chip Butty]

so chip you ready too lynch mulch yet?

You'reway too eager. You're tipping your hand. Jumped in to help your scum buddy much?

[Chip Butty]

so chip you ready too lynch mulch yet?

Town would sit back and ket this play out, unless they had something salient to say.

[Chip Butty]

Theta is at L-1 btw.

Fykus-Teech-Tywin

[Chip Butty]

I tracked Havo last night and I got "Target didn't go anywhere"

This is why I'm pushing for a lynch among the VT pool, because Havo is like 95% confirmed VT (more than the other VTs) so our chances are pretty good for hitting scum. If we mislynch, oh well, it's just a VT. Lynching a claimed PR is too risky in my POV.

P-Edit: I would never leave you guys <3

Here is what Tywin said when he announced his result. Havo 95% cleared just because he didn't do an NK that didn't even happen? In what universe is that not ludicrous / scummy?

Did you just scumslip here?

~Somebody's trying to deflect~

[Chip Butty]

Fykus has gone very quiet...

[Chip Butty]

meanwhile chip is trying to solve the game by himself based on 3ish particular post.

Thanks for the Townread. Remember this when people are trying to decide which VT to lynch, or you'll look even scummier.

[Chip Butty]

Fykus? Fykus boy, me bob?

[Chip Butty]

You are saying that I'm so eager to clear Havo, but I NEVER cleared him. 95% clear isn't a full clear.

Pathetic. It's way more than is warranted by your result.

[Chip Butty]

Theta is at L-1 btw.

Fykus-Teech-Tywin

Oh, did your scumread on Havo magically go away now?

I tracked Havo last night and I got "Target didn't go anywhere"

This is why I'm pushing for a lynch among the VT pool, because Havo is like 95% confirmed VT (more than the other VTs) so our chances are pretty good for hitting scum. If we mislynch, oh well, it's just a VT. Lynching a claimed PR is too risky in my POV.

P-Edit: I would never leave you guys <3

Here is what Tywin said when he announced his result. Havo 95% cleared just because he didn't do an NK that didn't even happen? In what universe is that not ludicrous / scummy?

Did you just scumslip here?

~Somebody's trying to deflect~

LMAO. No. You said "because he didn't do an NK that didn't even happen?" How do you know that scum decided to do a no kill?

I didn't say scum decided not to NK. I said an NK didn't happen. ie There wasn't a successful NK.

[Chip Butty]

Where's Fykus? Where. Is. Fykus?

[Chip Butty]

Fykus is watching hunter x hunter.
I figured dunk had some kind of modifier where he gets a "no result" result to tell him someones guilty like gamma had in the game mulch got 6/6 in. I didnt think boon would just put a straight up cop into a booneytoonz game

But you're not questioning a straight Tracker? I smell BS.

[Chip Butty]

You are saying that I'm so eager to clear Havo, but I NEVER cleared him. 95% clear isn't a full clear.

Pathetic. It's way more than is warranted by your result.

So you do admit that I never actually cleared Havo.

As good as.

[Chip Butty]

There i am. Ill check again in 20 mins

Is that how long the scum meetings last?

[Chip Butty]

@Tywin: there's only room for three on the scumteam. You guys have edged Havo out.

[Chip Butty]

Now they've all gone quiet. Scum meeting in progress lol.

[Chip Butty]

Starting point for me if I want to catch up on relevant stuff?

Start of D2 to #700.

[Chip Butty]

Starting point for me if I want to catch up on relevant stuff?

Start of D2 to #700.

While fixing focus on Fykus.

[Chip Butty]

^
Always has to be one.

I'm serious. The key to the game lies therein.

[Chip Butty]

Fykus is watching hunter x hunter.
I figured dunk had some kind of modifier where he gets a "no result" result to tell him someones guilty like gamma had in the game mulch got 6/6 in. I didnt think boon would just put a straight up cop into a booneytoonz game

So I'm scum because my role is too standard in a mini NORMAL game....got it.

So i take it you don't buy the last sentence from Fykus?

[Chip Butty]

Fykus is watching hunter x hunter.
I figured dunk had some kind of modifier where he gets a "no result" result to tell him someones guilty like gamma had in the game mulch got 6/6 in. I didnt think boon would just put a straight up cop into a booneytoonz game

Fuck me dead chip youre obsessed. Ive explained my reasoning now vote theta. It seems like youre just stalling for time

I'm never voting Theta on the strength of that load of BS. Why would you make an assumption like that to favour Dunk over Mulch?

[Chip Butty]

Fuck me dead chip youre obsessed. Ive explained my reasoning now vote theta. It seems like youre just stalling for time

chip says my persuit of mulch is one upmanship yet he's trying to be a genius and is making things more complicated than they have to be.

You're the one who has been banging on about his perfect record of Mulchreads.

[Chip Butty]

Dunks was believable

He claimed cop when, according to your story, you knew had to be a lie, as presented at least without modifiers. How in the fuck is that believable?

[Chip Butty]

You didn't even question it. He claimed at #698. You voted Mulch at #699.

[Chip Butty]

I'm not voting Theta period unless Fykus can come up with something a lot better.

[Chip Butty]

You'll have ro find someone else to do your dirty work for you.

[Chip Butty]

lol @ chip when theta flips scum.

Lol @ Teech when Teech flips scum.

[Chip Butty]

I don't like Fykus' "I'm a BP" > "I'm not a BP" > "Here's why I lied." thing.

I don't really like Theta either, and I think a lynch should be between them given the similar claims. Fykus is referencing the Boonie-game thing. Can someone help me understand that. I already get that he can have a role that is not in the Normal wiki, but why does that make Fykus' claim more believable?

Because Fykus is the only one here that has claimed a non-normal role and no one has cc'ed him.

When you are done reading, can you please hammer theta and call it good for the day?

Sure, Fykus has the non-normal role. But given he lied about the BP part and his failure to explain his #699 vote, why believe the rast of it?

[Chip Butty]

Let's flip theta and find out chip sheesh

Yeah, like scum.me would stick his nexk out so far. Scum.Theta would be telling scum.me to stfu.

[Chip Butty]

Scum meeting adjourned, huh? You guys need to stagger your entrances more.

[Chip Butty]

Oh fuck off.

Lol. Frustrated scum. Can't get Assemble lynched. Can't get Mulch lynched. Can't get Theta lynched...

[Chip Butty]

Scum meeting adjourned, huh? You guys need to stagger your entrances more.

Stupid posts like these really undermine your credibility and doesn't do any good.

It stings when you get a bad theatre review, doesn't it?

[Chip Butty]

Okay I've just re-read Fykus's D2 ISO. I think for me it now comes down to 1. whether it is plausible there could be both a commuteriser and a commuter, and 2. if not, which of the two claims is more believable. Fykus did claim after Mulch, so that is in his favour...

[Chip Butty]

How could i come up with such an outlandish role to counter claim someone town was just about to lock town all for the purpose of trying to lynch 1 town member? Thats like a 2 for 1 deal with mafia coming out the losers

theta is scum.

why did i vote mulch when i knew dunks guilty couldnt of happened? I was going to lynch mulch anyway because of the no kill happening and i didnt want to out my role to get it done. Riding off the tails of the guilty vote was the easiest way to do that.

how could scum come up with some bizarre force commuter role with some crazy name thats believable within this situation? Im not that good as scum. you'd think that by now someone with the "actual boon created role" would of come out and counter claimed me by now if i were actually lying.

After Fykus's responses recently and re-reading, I'm more inclined to buy this now...

[Chip Butty]

Fykus did claim after Mulch, so that is in his favour...

Who's favor? You listed two proper nouns, and then followed by a pronoun. Unclear.

Fykus's favoir.

[Chip Butty]

Thank you. Now vote theta please

Lol i got so caught up in this i almost burned something I'm cooking.

Like i say, i need to ponder if there could be a commuteriser and a commuter. I can't really see why not.

Also, Theta claims he can block kills, and a rolestopper who can do that is prob more town than scum

[Chip Butty]

Then again...

[Chip Butty]

I'm fine with theta--->Mulch---->Tchill


That would get 2 scum. Can everyone agree on this?

Alright. Let's talk about action results before we drop the hammer on mulch.

This sounds so much like 'Let's give him a fair trial before we lynch him'.

But yeah, we need to wait until results are in. And anyone voting Mulch needs to be able to say what happened to the NK on N1.

[Chip Butty]

@Boon could there be a singular werewolf faction?

Yes, there could.

No because its yellow. Your tomorrows lynch dunk. Sorry

~Whoopsies!~

[Chip Butty]

Thoughts on thetas partner teech?

honestly leaning towards Mulch/Dunk and Theta/Chip. would explain the bad play from all them. chip is the most questionable atm.

Why did you feel the need to preface that with 'honestly'?

[Chip Butty]

hell it could be chip/mulch. dude is obv defending mulch at every turn.

Do you disagree that those voting for Mulch need a theory about the lack of n1 NK?

Uh, Fykus? <cough>

[Chip Butty]

Nevermind. Lemme think that over...

[Chip Butty]

Thoughts on thetas partner teech?

honestly leaning towards Mulch/Dunk and Theta/Chip. would explain the bad play from all them. chip is the most questionable atm.

Why did you feel the need to preface that with 'honestly'?

like chip is looking for every excuse not to lynch mulch and he's nitpicking me for one word it's quite funny.

Why are you attacking me for defending someone who hasn't flipped?

IRL, prefacing assertions with 'honestly' can be a lie-tell.

[Chip Butty]

@boon could there be 2 werewolf factions or a werewolf + mafia faction?

Either of these would be possible. Teams would be given distinct differences.

See; BooneyToonz III

Do you mean name and colour, or something besides that?

[Chip Butty]

Okay, so where I'm at with Mulch.

As d2 drew to a close, i was coming around to believing Fykus's story, which would make me fall back on my earlier Mulch/Dunk theory. It all comes down to whether it really is mechanically impossible for Mulch to have eaten the NK.

BTW people keep forgetting it was me who cast shade on those two when everybody seemed about to locktown them...

[Chip Butty]

Vote mulch dunk

VOTE: mulch

Wait, Dunker and Mulch both claim to be mason buddies, then later go head to head in a claim duel to the death in which they both come up with convenient weird-ass claims that support each other? Scum v scum much?

Wait, Dunker and Mulch both claim to be mason buddies, then later go head to head in a claim duel to the death in which they both come up with convenient weird-ass claims that support each other? Scum v scum much?

VOTE: Mulch as the less valuable claim.

Alright.

1. Im a town enchantress - boon gives shit weird names so he wouldnt straight up call you a commuter.

2. My role lets me force commute others, i.e you. Im also 1 shot bp

3. It seems like scum knew that something like this happened last night because their kill didnt come through. You and dunk probably thought up this whole drama in the scum chat.

Therefore we have to lynch dunk and find out. If hes vig no big loss we lynch you tomorrow.

4. Why would scum of targeted you last night after the way you carried on yesterday. Had you kept it up youd of been helping scum this game in their eyes

Lynch mulch first. Less valuable claim.

Nope. Dunk first incase the whole things a ruse

If it's a ruse, they're both in on it.

Nope. Dunk first incase the whole things a ruse

If it's a ruse, they're both in on it.

Exactly. Dunk first

Maybe I'm being thick here, but why not the less valuable claim first.

How could i come up with such an outlandish role to counter claim someone town was just about to lock town all for the purpose of trying to lynch 1 town member? Thats like a 2 for 1 deal with mafia coming out the losers

Town wasn't about to locktown anyone. I'd already re-raised suspicion of Dunker and Mulch. But you're right about the 2 for 1 part.

I can switch to Dunker...

hardclaim cop with red on mulch
VOTE: mulch

VOTE: mulch

LMAO

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles


You can't have targeted me last night LOL

Can you guys check this theory and tell me if I'm being dumb here:

1. Town.Mulch commutes N1
2. Town.Dunker shoots Mulch N1, but learns his shot didn't go through and concludes Mulch is scum.
3. Town.Dunker hardclaims cop to prevent Mulch from fakeclaming commuter, and accuses Mulch.
4. Scum.Fykus, who didn't force-commute Mulch at all, and thus doesn't know that a cop investigation of Mulch wouldn't go through, jumps on the Mulch wagon.
5. Mulch knows a cop investigation of him would have failed and suspects Dunker of fakeclaiming.
6. 1v1 clusterfuck etc.

So...Town.Mulch, Town.Dunker, Scum.Fykus

Also, enchanted princess sounds like someone is taking the piss...

^In this scenario, Mulch and Dunker's claims (loyal commuter, vig) are true...

UNVOTE: Mulch

Almost forgot...

VOTE: Fykus

Okay, so where I'm at with Mulch.

As d2 drew to a close, i was coming around to believing Fykus's story, which would make me fall back on my earlier Mulch/Dunk theory. It all comes down to whether it really is mechanically impossible for Mulch to have eaten the NK.

BTW people keep forgetting it was me who cast shade on those two when everybody seemed about to locktown them...

i sure aint forgetting you casted shade then refused to vote lol.

Here's the history of when i jumped on Mulch's wagon until i jumped to Fykus, since you're too lazy or too scummy to check. Note i argue repeatedly with Fykus to get Mulch lynched before Dunker.

[Chip Butty]

Forget the first quote in the wall...dunno how that got in there...

[Chip Butty]

Boon, if Mulch is scum and he tipped his hat and voted himself, would you regard that as playing against wincon?

[Chip Butty]

Yo chip vote mulch

I was actually coming around to that yesterday before someone hammered. I just want to think about your account of the no-Nk. If it makes sense I'll vote Mulch.

[Chip Butty]

could klaz even give us info as a bg? fykus who did you target or did you already state this?

No probably not.
I targeted mulch on the off chance the werewolf faction targeted me

didn't chip throw serious suspicions at tywin? that's worth noting.

I did throw some suspicions his way. Mainly just about how his role kind of stuck out.

[Chip Butty]

Okay so the story is that Mulch was to do the NK, but couldn't because Fykus commuted him?

[Chip Butty]

Yo chip vote mulch

I was actually coming around to that yesterday before someone hammered. I just want to think about your account of the no-Nk. If it makes sense I'll vote Mulch.

I mean, i was coming around to a Theta vote.

[Chip Butty]

Okay, my opposition was based on me not believing Fykus earlier...but without that obstacle...

VOTE: Mulch

[Chip Butty]

Tchill for Theta's buddy?

[Chip Butty]

Havo is flat out lying. Lying comes from scum. You lynch all liars

"lynch all liars"

Then we have ro lynch Dunk and Fykus too.

[Chip Butty]

Dunk tomorrow. No exceptions

i'm literally confirmable -.-

Don't get too comfortable. Scum might have a bp or driver or something. I'm willing to give you a shot, though, so to speak. Please bear in mind that Tchill is tunnelling me, even though i can refute every accusation.

[Chip Butty]

Okay, my opposition was based on me not believing Fykus earlier...but without that obstacle...

VOTE: Mulch

so whats with chip's unwillingness to vote mulch?

You're either braindead or scum.

[Chip Butty]

If Mulch flips green, then Tchill and Fykus.

If Mulch flips red, then Dunker and Tchill.

[Chip Butty]

Lol

[Chip Butty]

High chance of chip

Zero chance of Chip. I'm a VT so it doesn't matter much if i die, but we'll see what Mulch flips. I'm not 100% sure he is scum, but we need to know at this point. Atm I'm thinking if there is scum within the VTs, it is in Tchill, Carca, Havo, in that order. If Mulch does happen to flip green, those pushing on me because of my support for him when i suspected Fykus are going to look bad.

[Chip Butty]

If we're lynching Mulch it makes sense to commute Dunk.

[Chip Butty]

Why carca

Carca mainly a lot of fluff recently, and she was encouraging the mulch v dunk thing which almost got them townlocked. Has been strongly antimulch in posting, but just going along for the ride, few if any original contributions. Few if any attempts to probe or challenge other players. Possibly lurked during the massclaim maybe to be last or maybe in the hope the focus woukd shift.

Dunno, depends what mulch flips i guess...

[Chip Butty]

what bothers me is that the dunk is scum theory is based on the ENTIRE scumteam outing themselves out a fakeclaim kerfuffle

which is too... easy?

Yeah but insurance. We can see what mulch flips first and whatever else happens or doesn't happen overnight.

[Chip Butty]

Or we could just read his hardclaim.

[Chip Butty]

esp since his name was floated as a possible vt target earlier. I'd be paranoid as scum if that happened to me.

It hasn't escaped my attention that you left Tywin exposed last night them leapt in today to point out how dumb that was. Maybe you wanted to paint it as dumb so it didn't look scum?

[Chip Butty]

oh yeah btw hardclaim mason with mulch

Why the fuck did you out it this early, I specifically told you not to do this what the fuck

[Chip Butty]

I agree about mulch noise. He has to go, so we can move forward.

[Chip Butty]

There been 2 votes for Dunk to shoot Chip.

No one else has offered a candidate.

Conveniently failing to notice that Fykus commuting Dunk has also got form. You're rising up my scum charts. Nowthinking tchill then havo. Carca third. I dont think assemble is scum here.

But this is the first time I've played with any of you, so what do i know?

[Chip Butty]

yeah, its in scum favor if dunk's town, to have the commute hit him. Which points to chipscum...

If i commute dunk and noone dies then scum didnt shoot to get him lynched (not likely. They need all the kills they can get) or dunk is scum.

If i die tonight it means dunk is lock town

But it is in town favour to commute Dunk if he is scum. This omission plus last night's alleged BG mistake, has me wondering about Klazam.

[Chip Butty]

There been 2 votes for Dunk to shoot Chip.

No one else has offered a candidate.

Conveniently failing to notice that Fykus commuting Dunk has also got form. You're rising up my scum charts. Nowthinking tchill then havo. Carca third. I dont think assemble is scum here.

But this is the first time I've played with any of you, so what do i know?

What does "got form" mean?

In this context, it means there are people in favour of doing that.

[Chip Butty]

Klaz will die tonight or night after so he doesnt matter re needing to find out if hes lying

Ueah. But in the meantime we should take anything he says with an even larger grain of salt than usual.

[Chip Butty]

And he'll only doe if he is scum...

[Chip Butty]

I'm 50/50 on him atm.

[Chip Butty]

Klaz will die tonight or night after so he doesnt matter re needing to find out if hes lying

Actually, you sound hella sure he is town. Which makes this post look weird...

[Chip Butty]

And he'll only doe if he is scum...

wait

if im scum, why do i die? that doesnt make sense

Brainfart. I'm posting in a couple of games at once. You'll die if you're town of course.

But it doesn't have to mean you did good as BG. scum could target you directly. I think that is what Fykus might have been trying to say.

[Chip Butty]

Scum targetibf me does mean I'm a good bg. My function is to literally die.

Yeah you left the tracker open. I can see why they would fear you.

[Chip Butty]

Your functuon is to die protecting town from a shot on them, not to literally just die lol.

[Chip Butty]

Dunker I swear.... We made it explicitly clear to target chip.

No, that was just you.

[Chip Butty]

MOD, would we be told if Fykus was modkilled for his PM stunt?

[Chip Butty]

Fykus commuted Dunker. We know that from the PM. So Dunker didn't kill.
Fykus wasn't commuted, so Dunk is same alignment ie town.

[Chip Butty]

Fykus commuted Dunker. We know that from the PM. So Dunker didn't kill.
Fykus wasn't commuted, so Dunk is same alignment ie town.

Why were there 2 kills then?

I want to hear from Dunk.

Exactly...

[Chip Butty]

NO WAY scum would kill Assembles.

Scum would have shot Fykus since they couldn't be sure he wouldn't commute Dunk. So...who killed Assembler?

@Havo: Yeah.

[Chip Butty]

Mod: was Fykus's commute of Dunk allowed to proceed?

[Chip Butty]

Because of his pm fiasco Fykus might have changed targets.

I doubt voluntarily. Hence my question.

[Chip Butty]

NO WAY scum would kill Assembles.

Scum would have shot Fykus since they couldn't be sure he wouldn't commute Dunk. So...who killed Assembler?

@Havo: Yeah.

Why would scum "not be sure" ?

SCUM was shooting Fykus regardless.

Because there were calls for Fykus to allow Dunk to take his shot.

[Chip Butty]

But Fykus seemed to want to commute Dunk, if i read him right.

[Chip Butty]

I think if scum knew Dunk would be open they would have shot him. Because rhey couldn't be sure of getting a chance at him tonight.

[Chip Butty]

Boon's pm was kinda ambiguous. When he said he was going to start the day with no action taken i wasn't sure if he meant no disciplinary action against Fykus, or Fykus's action didn't go through. Hence my questions to him.

[Chip Butty]

Where'd carca go after the awkward vote?

Emerging from the tunnel at last?

[Chip Butty]

I will be soon. Who's scum here chip?

There's 7 of us left.

I'm sure of me needless to say.
If Fykus's commute went through then Dunker is clear. So we need to hear back about that. Also, it would mean neither of the kills are his, which seems to imply 2 more scum.
I'm getting townvibes from Havo and Klaz. They seem to be trying to figure things out.
You I'm not sure about after the way to came charging out of the gate this morning on my case and not trying to work stuff out first.
Carca looked bad with that vote, but maybe genuine mistake.

That leaves the enigmatic mumbles. Do we have a claim yet?

[Chip Butty]

How many claimed PRs do we have now, given Mulch wasn't one? Do we have room for a 1-shot vig?

[Chip Butty]

I was referring to disciplinary action. I would not take away anyone’s actions.

Thanks Mod.

So Dunk is clear.

[Chip Butty]

I mean...whoever he targeted is conftown but he can't tell us now so why did he do that?

i targeted mumble, because of low posts count once again, and got no result. Fykus targeted mumble last night. This clears Mumble and Dunker as town.

Wait, Fykus targetted Dunk last night. It was in the PM...

[Chip Butty]

And none of this can be verified.

[Chip Butty]

Tchill, you've been hard on my case for ages now. And you mean to say you haven't investigated me? I mean, you've been tunnelling me LMAO. Plus you lied about your role.

[Chip Butty]

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

[Chip Butty]

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

It's Tchill and Havo, guys.

BOOK EM DANNO, MURDER ONE!

VOTE: Tchill

Havo tomorrow.

[Chip Butty]

But not if it's 2-2 since we've got two WWs already? Hmmm, wait...

[Chip Butty]

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

What part of Fykus changed his choice due to the pm fiasco don't you understand?

Fykus chose someone else, Dunk shot Assembles. Because scum would not.

And you killed Fykus.

Where in the name of fuck are yiu getting Fykus changed his choice?

[Chip Butty]

It could still be Tchill and Havo if one had a 1-shot kill in addition to the NK.

Yeah let's see what Dunk says...

My head hurts

[Chip Butty]

So if Fykus targetted Mumble, Dunk was free to take a shot and killed Assembler. And Fykus was the NK. So, no need to assume multiball.

[Chip Butty]

so your'e on mulch's team. Which explains why you refused to lynch him.

I've explained enough times that i was voting Mulch for like 200 posts. That you keep ignoring this is scummy. It can no longer be considered an honest mistake. Ditto with the fact it was me who drew suspicion back on Mulch and Dunk following the 1v1.

People do make honest mistakes in this game you know. Otherwise Mafia wouldn't be a thing.

Finally fwiw i did lynch him eventually. Why don't you raise this point against those who really did refuse to lynch him?

You're scum.

[Chip Butty]

I will be soon. Who's scum here chip?

There's 7 of us left.

I'm sure of me needless to say.
If Fykus's commute went through then Dunker is clear. So we need to hear back about that. Also, it would mean neither of the kills are his, which seems to imply 2 more scum.
I'm getting townvibes from Havo and Klaz. They seem to be trying to figure things out.
You I'm not sure about after the way to came charging out of the gate this morning on my case and not trying to work stuff out first.
Carca looked bad with that vote, but maybe genuine mistake.

That leaves the enigmatic mumbles. Do we have a claim yet?

With Mulch flipping PR that makes me think it's NOT multiball.

Could very well be just one scum left.

We have two kills to account for. Suggests multiball.

It's Tchill and Havo, guys.

BOOK EM DANNO, MURDER ONE!

VOTE: Tchill

Havo tomorrow.

so havo and klazam are town at first but then havo and tchill are scum. That klazam town read just sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

Response to Havo's posts in-between. Duh.

[Chip Butty]

If we started 9-2-2 then it is 5-2-0 now...

[Chip Butty]

Want to point out one thing for future consideration- if i die, it doesnt automatically confirm tchill as town, he could have shot me to preserve his fakeclaim. I dont think this will be the case though. If its multi, tchill is still my #1

Wait, tonight is the mulchteamshot night if multiball, so this wont work...

We've killed two WWs dude.

[Chip Butty]

If 9-2-2 Mulch's team is gone.

[Chip Butty]

I still reguse to believe Tchill didn't investigate me on any night despite tunnelling me so long. No. Way.

[Chip Butty]

And none of tchill's actions can be verified. Easy to make up a story that fits the facts we akready know.

[Chip Butty]

If 9-2-2 Mulch's team is gone.

Exactly, so there should be no kill tonight if its multiball.

Yeah. I didn't quite get what you were saying.

[Chip Butty]

Wait, in the flips it didn't say anything about the wolves being even or odd night. I don't think it is multiball.

[Chip Butty]

ok thats fair for you to be weary but game setup discussion and breadcrumbing are there for a reason.

Scum can crumb too.

[Chip Butty]

I m not sure about factional kills being evedient in flips. Question- any of you know another normal multiball game i can look at for referemce?

Theta and mulch's flips would have said if they were even or odd night. That would be part of their role.

[Chip Butty]

If not multiball then one wolf left and i bet it is Tchill.

[Chip Butty]

Anyone who really had such a hardon for me would have investigated me for sure. That story about investigating lurkers was superlame.

[Chip Butty]

i understand you gotta do what you gotta do here chip.

This os where you tip your hat to me.

[Chip Butty]

Go out with dignity.

[Chip Butty]

All i ask is that people read back what i have said against tchill, and consider it with an open mind. We can win this tonight.

[Chip Butty]

Nightfall. Obviously scum can't win tonight, if that is what you're implying.

[Chip Butty]

If we lynch the lasy scum today, we see the flip after nightfall. ie tonight.

[Chip Butty]

I m not sure about factional kills being evedient in flips. Question- any of you know another normal multiball game i can look at for referemce?

Theta and mulch's flips would have said if they were even or odd night. That would be part of their role.

If not multiball then one wolf left and i bet it is Tchill.

All i ask is that people read back what i have said against tchill, and consider it with an open mind. We can win this tonight.

Tonight, how!

?

Nightfall. Obviously scum can't win tonight, if that is what you're implying.

If we lynch the lasy scum today, we see the flip after nightfall. ie tonight.

Youre making zero sense here.

I'm thinking not multiball, so 10-3. We've killed 2 WWs so 1 left. We can win if we lynch the remaining wolf. Lynch happens at nightfall, we get the result after that, at night.

[Chip Butty]

Tchill's strategy today: remove himself from the pool of claimed VTs with a fakeclaim we're in no position ro verify, then push to lynch through the actual VTs and cruise to victory. Don't let him do it.

[Chip Butty]

There are seven of us left:

Mumble conftown
Dunk claimed odd night vig
Tchill claimed gunsmith
Klaz claimed BG
3 x claimed VT: Carca, Havo, Chip.
6-1

So, following the Klaz strategy, we lynch in the VTs today. If we miss, 5-1:

Klaz dies n4
4-1

D5
Mumble
Dunk
Tchill
Two of Carca Havo Chip
And Tchill investigates one of the two remaining VTs.

If tchill gets a positive we lynch there. If that doesn't win the game we lynch tchill d6. If tchill gets a negative, we lynch the other VT.

Mumble
Dunk
Tchill
And one of carca Havo Chip
3-1

N5 dunk gets shot
Mumble
Tchill
And one of carca hava chip
2-1

D6
Tchill and the unconf vt vote each other. It all comes down to Mumble.

[Chip Butty]

Mumble who, incidentally, hasn't posted in 5 days.

This scenario doesn't fill me with confidence.

[Chip Butty]

Actually n5 dunk can take a shot...

[Chip Butty]

But if he gets it wrong, scum win 1-1

[Chip Butty]

Fykus conf town enchantress DEAD
Mumble conf town prob vt
Carca unconf vt
Tchill unconf town gunsmith
Klaz unconf town bg
Serg conf town fn DEAD
Assembler conf vt DEAD
Tywin conf tracker DEAD
Dunk unconf odd night vig
Theta conf wolf DEAD
Mulch conf wolf DEAD
Chip unconf vt
Havo unconf vt

Who doesn't fit? The $1,000,000 question...

[Chip Butty]

yeah dunk taking a shot N5 probably is a bad idea

Whose judgement do you trust more? Mumbke or Dunk?

[Chip Butty]

I listed dunk as unconf but i guess after last night he's pretty much confirmed...

[Chip Butty]

Corrected, and with wolf roles...

Fykus conf town enchantress DEAD
Mumble conf town prob vt
Carca unconf vt
Tchill unconf town gunsmith
Klaz unconf town bg
Serg conf town fn DEAD
Assembler conf vt DEAD
Tywin conf tracker DEAD
Dunk conf odd night vig
Theta conf wolf 2-shot rolestopper DEAD
Mulch conf wolf weak doctor DEAD
Chip unconf vt
Havo unconf vt

Who doesn't fit? The $1,000,000 question...

[Chip Butty]

I'm...actually maybe believing Tchill a bit. That looks light for investigative roles without him...

[Chip Butty]

Why carca? She's lower activity than assembler even, and there was that terrible vote earlier.

[Chip Butty]

Carca first. Then i don't care if it is Havo or me next.

[Chip Butty]

*shrugs* As long as town wins in the end. If it takes a night longer it's no biggie.

I'm not going to waste my time arguing about the order, so go ahead and lynch me. But you haven't managed to guard anyone yet so I'm not sure why you have confidence in your own judgement at this point.

[Chip Butty]

Okay town lynch me...

[Chip Butty]

i've only had one real chance to protect someone, and i was hoping to be able to clear someone using tywin's track, missing the fact that tywin would be shot. that has nothing to do with my judgement here.

Yeah, and i guess i haven't exactly been on target this game either.

[Chip Butty]

In my defence, I've only recently encountered Mulch and Taco for the first time. I still haven't finished a game with either.

[Chip Butty]

Nopes, sorry.

Hardclaim Macho 2-Shot Deathproof Vig Bomb.

Who should I shoot tonight?

[Chip Butty]

I hardclaimed, dude. What are you doing?

[Chip Butty]

My vig is only a 1-shot...

[Chip Butty]

is this you giving up?

It's town.me acqiesing to my fate. I can see you and tchill are in tunnel chip mode already, and Havo gagging for a Chip lynch too, and i don't see the point of fighting it since I'm just a vt and i can see your perspective on this. I'd like to keep me alive since it's potentially going to be tight, but c'est la vie.

[Chip Butty]

VOTE: chip

Chip town read havo and klazam then pushed me and havo as scum. That's not consistent and it keeps klazam as a town read.

For the record, and I've pointed this out before, Havo's posting in-between made me change my assessment.

Ok let's do this. I am town.

[Chip Butty]

Go ahead Dunk...whenever you're ready...

[Chip Butty]

Good luck, town!

[Chip Butty]

can we lynch someone else?

explain please

I think they town.
They're reactions to everything is so townie.

this doesn't line up with your stance on mulch. You should be willing to lynch chip based off how he handled the mulch situatiuon. Scum as a last ditch effort is gonna sound really townie.

Scum is always trying to spund townie. Why would they suddenly be more successful at the last ditch?

I swear, you had better be scum or i am going to think the opposite to everything you post in every game ever going forward.

[Chip Butty]

@Fykus

VOTE: chip

Lol Mulch tipped his hat as scum...

[Chip Butty]

Tchill and if somehow it is multiball Havo.

[Chip Butty]

can we lynch someone else?

explain please

I think they town.
They're reactions to everything is so townie.

this doesn't line up with your stance on mulch. You should be willing to lynch chip based off how he handled the mulch situatiuon. Scum as a last ditch effort is gonna sound really townie.

Scum is always trying to spund townie. Why would they suddenly be more successful at the last ditch?

I swear, you had better be scum or i am going to think the opposite to everything you post in every game ever going forward.

just blacklist me. If you flip town here theres no justification for your play.

I've played fine among all these fake claims and scuzzy reaction tests. But nice try discrediting. As you say, you gotta do what you gotta do...

[Chip Butty]

I'm pretty sure if it was multi, the werewolves kill on even nights due to the first night no kill. I don't think it is multi tho.

Alright. I'm on tchill. If I die it doesn't auto clear tchill.

I don't think it is multiball either. Reasons stated a while back...

[Chip Butty]

:twittlesthumbs:

Can't wait to get stuck into my playstyle after I'm gone, huh? "Chip was sooooooo badtown...'

[Chip Butty]

It's not.

[Chip Butty]

...unless there is one scum left and they hit whoever klazam is on.

[Chip Butty]

Are you worried now?

[Chip Butty]

Yeah i was just trying to mess with your head. There's an elite bg that kills the attacker as well as dying. But you appear not to have known about it. Of course if i really thought Kazam was an EBG it would be maybe anti-wincon to talk about it, so i guess there isn't one. Unless i was getting my wifom on. I mean, maybe he crumbed it, no?

[Chip Butty]

But it would only be anti-wincon if i thought it was the case, which i don't. Still, I've been wrong before...

[Chip Butty]

LOL I picked "normal" games as my comeback games because I thought it would help me ease back into mafia ways of thinking after a long break without too much weirdness going on. Guess the joke is on me. I think this is my first completed game with everyone here and my first Boon game. Will definitely be more prepared for Mulch antics (which I enjoyed) in the future.

I guess me, TChill and Havo all got a bit tunnelled on each other. I did the silly harclaim thing at the end because of the tunnelling and I didn't want to drag things out when i was certain i would be the lynch. Couldn't bring myself to self-vote, though.

Tywin: the plaon tracker claim in the midst of the non-standard roles did stand out to me, so thought it worthwhile to at least prod there.

I actually thought Havo might solve rhe game there at the end, but it was difficult and none of us did and he certainly can't be blamed. We have very different ways of approaching the game and seem to have got off to a bad start, which is partly my fault, but i thought he played reasonably here. I'm okay with people criticising my playstyle / in-game choices, and i can be very critical of others but we should all try to avoud making it personal and taking it outside the game. Mafia by its nature can get heated because it is easy to feel sometimes that a push on you or a vote is a personal attack on you.

Overall though i had a fun time and i hope everybody did. Don't take it seriously, it's just a game. A very frustrating game at times, but just a game. Thanks to all for a fascinating game and thanks to Boon for a reintroduction to mafia that i won't forget for a long time.