Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

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VOTE: tsq policy lynch

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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i'm sorry you need to word this in terms of a policy lynch or else i won't understand.

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what's the joke

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discussion is so exciting i love discussion.

ep lq townbloc

VOTE: errantparabola

counter wagons for days

does he is scum?

also ep do u prefer they

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acid is a little yikes now that i think about it.

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and now that i think about it more judging people from turbos is probably no bueno. surety limited bueno.

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Me and tacos I don't think have ever seen eye to eye on this site lol.

i reckon he's town then

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I believe every post matters.

69 fart cave shweep de deep de doo

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schadd-- What I'm reading might just be a facet of his GD posting style. But I am wary of early townreads that seem confident ("LQ/ep townblock").

kinda late for me tbqh.

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lq is pretty lmao and stretchy but still mostly within town boundaries

egg's wall didn't have any bangers. like if it were a gun it would have a silencer.

acid seems town actually. in the turbo game i played with him he was scum and rather unnatural, and he isn't like that here which as i mentioned i would be hesitant about but he's also posting as though this were a turbo so. somewhat strong tr.

uzi guttown

ep has some small town telly things that idk if they are good at faking.

ep vs tchill is probably some alignment vs. some alignment

tea's queue vote sorta not RVS

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Also this mumble serg thing reads like a performance to me.

which item(s) specifically sound like something someone wouldn't normally say

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tonal meme reads one of the most accurate types of reads in mafia tbh

yaaaaaaas.

VOTE: mumble

probtown

I have no substantial reads at this point, so I won't waste my time. The fact the you all are pressing so hard for it is ridiculous.

what do u need us 2 do

havo wanna join in the spew your alignment game

anyone can play! step right up!

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(gurgle) excuse me

VOTE: havo

another good vote (havo's alignment irrespective)

havo seems a little less than town tho

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Spoiler:

ok i lean town on TSQ. after an ISO i like why he voted LQ. I'm not crazy about ppl that belittle me and I like to agg them on at some point. He's obviously confident in his own play if he's calling ppl idiots so i'm sure he'll have this game figured out by the next day phase.

So you are Town reading someone for being an asshole?

iv'e seen more assholes be town than be scum on this site. I said i liked why he voted you and i'm sure he'll be the greatest town asset i've ever seen on this site.

town thought but i somewhat disagree with the premise

And you say you've seen more assholes be Town than Scum? What kind of fucked up observation is that? You think assholes are only assholes when they are Town? Unfucking believable.

i hope there isn't some latent joke in this

I mean, you cbf'd to click my name and view topics to see?

Does anyone have games of Thestatusquos where hes this lazy as town?

lmao

Ok yeah we're done here. your reaction to someone not even attacking you but trying to figure out your alignment is to attack them and call them scum?

298 isn't a true scotsman i suppose

UNVOTE: mumble
VOTE: LQ

what changed?

people being visibly annoyed makes them

more

likely to post alignment indicative posts not less

i tend to agree but there's so fucking many people that are just good at doing angry stuff as scum which is annoying

acid can you please shift your vote to LQ or mumble? kthx

you seem pretty confident

I am a player that requires meta on me to correctly read as Town.

how so? do you mean that in practice people read you badly without meta or that you think there are specific things about yourself that need meta to pick up on

also does
the chat
game
count?

because i didn't really pay attention to you in the dominion forum game

1) He's disengaged with the game, and the kind of defeatism I see from him which leads to self voting and things like "come on, just lynch me already" are things I think are way more common from scum players than town players. Like, do new town players do stuff like this? Yes. But I see this as a "tactic" from new scum players to try to emotionally talk people out of their lynch more than anyone else in the game.

i have found this to be rather untrue in practice and in theory

Also, I am pretty sure Town wins this game.

same

Other people I have not interacted with:

Taco
Schadd
Boon

whaddup daddy

Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

interestingly the last time i was scum in a 10:3 i also had a d1 poe to 4 people. but i've also heard you are good at scum

incidentally that's pretty much where i'm at if you replace me with tsq

pedit hello

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hey acid u r locktown can u locktown me back

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Oo sweet schadd posted and gave some content.... Seems decent, seems decent... Oh? Oh no helock Towned acid?schadd did you see where I said I was doing things too? Am I lock town too?

you r probably town

Also we're gonna need you to vote mumble. Ty ty.

i haven't really appreciated his posting but i think he is somewhat town

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Why is he town? What has he done to Lynch scum?

i reckon he thinks some stuff will become apparent to town if he is lynched. but ya his scumhunting has been not transparent

Beetlejuice.

Am I doing it right?

ya

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Beetlejuice.

Am I doing it right?

ya

Wear were ya m8?

i was having feelings for about 72 hours

Looking to slide in and get some town cred for not wanting to Lynch someone after you've lurked the whole day phase?

do you suppose mumble is town then?

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uzi how much would you say you adapt to playerlists

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Schadd, what was the point of that question earlier?

I feel like I know but I want to be sure.

ctrl + f "lmao" in your iso returns 0 results

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Mumble, my sincere apologies if we were wrong about you.

why did you feel this way?

I actually town read LUV.

Scum Luv ain’t sloppy, and it’s similar to how he played in a recent game where he was town, and I was scum. When he was active at least.

who else here are you having thoughts on informed by previous games

hi [wrong townie / excited wolf / boons partner(doubtful] !

i prefer {} for this sort of thing

luv honestly my making waves pool is just my don't particularly tr pool

which ends up as like egg, tsq, havo
less so you, lalendra

That’s almost half the game man.

I think your issue is that you’re not getting anything out of the content that has been generated by the players in this pool and if that’s the case, a part of that is on you.

what was the point of the "who's making waves" question? like what was the information you were hoping to gather

Schadd isn't active enough to get a read

how active do i have to be? my iso is somewhat short rn but there's a button you can click to make it taller which you might have missed

This also confirms me as mothafuckin'townBoon, because as scum I'm hyper aware.

there's somebody on my home site that you need to

fuck

pretty sure Schadd is active and ignoring this game.

If Chills claim is true, we know there is a Cop in the game. This is obvious but it hasn't been said yet.

not necessarily true? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller doesn't say it has to be accompanied by cop. like things that are confirmable and not IC are generally avoided in normals

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lal did you think of it as a policy lynch?

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Ask anyone who knows me how aggressive and how many mislynch setup options I allow myself when I'm scum.

hey mister skiies how aggressive and how many mislynch setup options do you allow urself when u'r scum

I actually town read LUV.

Scum Luv ain’t sloppy, and it’s similar to how he played in a recent game where he was town, and I was scum. When he was active at least.

who else here are you having thoughts on informed by previous games

Schadd isn't active enough to get a read

how active do i have to be? my iso is somewhat short rn but there's a button you can click to make it taller which you might have missed

outstanding

Schadd, the point was the accusation. Based on how I think the term skating by has been used here, more than half of the game can be considered guilty.

To explain further:

I didn’t buy that anyone on my wagon at the time could point to more then 2 people alive that have really been standing out and demonstrating their individuality and uniqueness. Making a mark on the game and a name for themselves early if you will.

So I felt like, it’s one thing if the majority of the game was attempting to do so but that isn’t the case here. I found it to be more of what I talked about with Acid.

did you ask the question thinking acid was town, then? (or with the intent of interfacing with town acid if he's town?)

I hate boons playstyle but that does not make boon scum.

eric_andre_light_studio_applause.mp3

I believe Lily stated elsewhere on site she’s grounded

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For me it was a combo. Like I said, I found his behavior scummy and wanted to lynch him for that, but by about halfway through I started to not care if he was scum and wanted to lynch him for his anti-town attitude and play. The fact that he openly stated that he would only be detrimental to town if he lived didn't help. So my stance on the issue evolved as the day went on.

at the time of 1002 how confident were you mumble was scum? how did you feel when he flipped town?

Schadd, who do you think is scum and why?

mmmph i don't wanna do this rn

in a waiting for reactions way and also in an i just took a midterm and my thoughts on everyone aren't plastic enough to be able to do the why part well atm way

My thought process currently is this: Mumble, EP and Taco are obviously conftown. Chill is as good as conftown for me. I'm leaning town on boon, havo, LQ and Luv, and don't yet know how I feel about acid, egg or TSQ. That leaves Schadd as the only reasonable vote for me, and unless the pressure generates more content that helps my SR subside, I'm fine with leaving it there. Obviously since we haven't caught any scum yet, at least two of my townlean/null reads are wrong, so I'm hoping I'm right about schadd.

last time i can find you giving reasons to scumread me is 97, so. what's up? what'd i ever do

Schadd what do you think of boon v acid and egg v lalendra.

boon v acid: in reading the scuffle kerfuffle nothing struck me as yucky from either. the accusation from both to the other seems to be that the other is not trying to sort them. which i sorta didn't notice, i guess. but like boonskiies is supposedly a good town player and acid has also been around the block and is pretty ok. so saying they're both town cuts against that grain.
egg v lalendra: i saw the thing that egg thought was weird from lalendra and also thought that was weird and also sorta made that clear incidentally.

If Egg is scum, he's doing a good job making it seem like he isn't to me. I expect him to be able to do that if he's scum, but it's working right now.

how so? would like an answer at some point but i get it if you want to wait for things

I can't exactly have a back and forth with Schadd in less than a 24 hour period like I have been with Lalendra.

back and forth requires a forth at some point.

That said, I don't know that I have seen Egg quote anything from Shadd now that I think about it.

^

Spoiler: non-game

uzi do u listen 2 brockhampton

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how so? would like an answer at some point but i get it if you want to wait for things

Basically, he's doing all the right things that hit my good vibes button, and I'm getting paranoid of being pocketed.

i feel.

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Schadd, who do you think is scum and why?

mmmph i don't wanna do this rn

in a waiting for reactions way and also in an i just took a midterm and my thoughts on everyone aren't plastic enough to be able to do the why part well atm way

i was thinking about it and i realized i could make

readlist via animal noises

Spoiler:

uzi: purrrrr. purr.
boonskiies: hhhhhhhh. hhhhhhhhh, hhhhh
tchill13: [seductive hiss, like from a sexy anthropomorphised cat character]
lalendra: [turns up snout] hmph
licketyquickety: bork! bork! bork.
acidphoenix: purrrrr... [bats at hand]
schadd_: [burp]
thestatusquo:

bork bork bork bork.

rrruff.
egg: bwok bwok bwok. . . bwok? . bwok bwok bwok
havo: rrrooar . . [yawn]

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that was like uncomfortably intuitive.

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boonskiies, how do you feel about being wrong on acid?

lalendra, what made you confident quickety wasn't the vig at the end of yesterday?

remember, i'm the frontier reaction test player on site

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Oh my god this went to shit quickly. I'm really not happy with LQ's play, I know we all have bad days but the oops!hammer followed by throwing shade about an "altered" VC (which was just updated to be more current) followed by serious AtE sure does look scummy af.

I don't remember saying I was confident he wasn't the vig. I said essentially that if LQ was town, his play looked scummy, but he could have just been having a bad day. Not sure where you got "LQ is definitely not the vig" out of that.

so:
>you're saying that "scummy" to you can mean bad play from town?
>do you suppose that anyone other than town vig would claim vig in twilight like that? there potentially exist reasons to not want to answer this.

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Yeah, I have mistaken bad town for scum. I think that’s fairly common.

i meant specifically saying "scummy" meaning "bad town" (or "bad if town")

Like, I'm actually town. I understand how it looks.

how does it look?

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how do u feel about mr. quickety shooting u

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is there some joke the rest of us aren't in on regarding SK

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2. The setup is a confirmed 10:3

i am rather% sure someone has pointed this out.

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incidentally there was this one time i noticed scum saying "fuck" and not "oh" when they were pretending to realize something

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My gambit with Tchill makes no sense coming from a scum perspective.

how so?

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Like seriously, you just made a thread about how to change your reads when you’re in a tunnel, and yet you are continuously not doing that,

lmao

There is no reason to stop pushing him if he claimed miller and I was scum there,

like, what would you claim? are you saying that you would have pushed him by virtue of him claiming miller?

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boon i think you really oughtta replace out if you're not banned.

at least, if you're being toxic to get townread as either alignment, first of all yikes second of all it doesn't work (look towards the bottom, around when he got banned)

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also in an out-of-game sense please avoid calling anyone an idiot or similar stuff when possible.

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And I could always tell when Rb was town toxic or scum toxic.

i agree with you that toxicity is worth defending

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@shadd_ why are you not voting Boon?

currently i think my top priority with respect to my wincon is for him to stop flaming in thread and i don't think voting him will be helpful unless he either settles down or leaves the game.

also how do people put the underscore at the end but not the c

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@shadd_ why are you not voting Boon?

currently i think my top priority with respect to my wincon is for him to stop flaming in thread and i don't think voting him will be helpful unless he either settles down or leaves the game.

also how do people put the underscore at the end but not the c

Also, I’m pretty blatantly town.

i agree with you that being scum renders it impossible to turn on capslock and type "fuck" a lot.

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yeah i mean. there's a lot that i didn't read because it made me upset.

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we can talk later, babe.

incidentally i can't think of a term of endearment that doesn't also sound condescending in certain contexts. i meant it as endearment.

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For town. That’s actually not the highest chance of a scum win. Highest chance of a scum win is to lynch me.

This sounds like something Donald Trump would say, honestly.

Why is this okay but I can’t call him ignorant?

he seems to be criticizing rhetorical style more than attacking the person. but if you found it offensive it's fair that he shouldn't say that.

There’s a reason you have won a single town game.

There’s a reason you *haven’t won a single town game. I misspoke.

from the look of it he's won 35 in fact! i was scum in one of them, even

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Then why’d he state arlier he’s gone 0 for 5? In that case it’s more of a what have you done for me lately kind of deal.

he said he would go 0 for 5 in normals if he lost this game.

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lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game

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lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game

it seemed like you were getting more comfortable but i looked back and there was some stuff i missed so mostly nevermind
I don't really know that it has, but if you think it has I'd like to hear how.

search.php?keywords=Miller&t=29549&sf=msgonly

Check the archives. There’s never been a vanilla cop and a miller in the same game. There’s been a cop, a role cop, and a gunsmith but never a vanilla cop. Either this setup is the first or there’s scum in Boon and tchill.

wh. why do you suppose vanilla cop and miller are specifically unlikely to be together?

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lalendra how do u suppose your style and attitude has changed since the beginning of this game

I don't really know that it has, but if you think it has I'd like to hear how.

it seemed like you were getting more comfortable but i looked back and there was some stuff i missed so mostly nevermind

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well give us your analysis of the data. we are to suppose it's true that there's some reason in setup design that a mod would be disinclined to put both a vanilla cop and a miller in a setup and thus carcallily probably didn't do that here?

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considering a scum roleblocker seems rather likely to exist, massclaim feels yikes

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gonna be low activity til thursday e'en because school

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Schadd, can you explain your thought process regarding Lalendra today?

like this whole game she has felt a lil bit weird in a inconsistent character sort of way, similarly to how notgonnalie felt here. also she was like evasive and it felt like she was kind of changing her answer in the thing i asked her start of day today. but also the first thing can kind of be explained by me, like, missing and forgetting posts of hers (as i sorta mentioned) and she has some townie thought stuff that other people are putting credence in and i think i might just be a goofball and they're right

gonna be low activity til thursday e'en because school

Ew.

same

Yeah, schadd’s the lynch for the day.

Also, he’s only voted once entire game, and it was in the TVs policy lynch debacle I mentioned earlier.

woah what people can just do that?

yeah, schadd's gonna knock his midterm out of the park

ok we'll see

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fwiw my haven't-pined-through-things-extensively team is boonie/tsq/havo

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i hope your majoring in a career for comedy.

i'm on our improv team actually! but i dunno that there is a comedy major here (there's def. a theatre one and that probably has something but idk)

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not lynching boon tomorrow would be embarrassing as hell.

i weakly think lalendra is town by associative but fortunately for her she hammered and i don't have time to point it out.

tchill & havo feel good as partners atm. daytalk is relevant

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powerwolfing shouldn't work imo. he did a p good job in the world that it does.

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that said i do truly believe that a lot of what he said to lq is really, really reprehensible.

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this actually makes my first mislynch here. it's happened twice at home site and incidentally both times can be traced back to someone shouting me to death like that, which i'm not good at falling with.

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in sum: more like boonyiikes

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one thing that's useful to ask oneself: "this seems towny in presentation but can i imagine someone actually thinking that? is there a coherent train of thought that is -likely- to be organic?"

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i feel like the no true scotsman fallacy might be relevant tomorrow. i.e. "the fact that i mislynched them doesn't make me bad it makes them bad because they can't interface with me"

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oh also lq has played p well. it was reassuring that he townread me though some of that came from somewhat obvious boon assoc

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doooooon't cry for meeeeee next door neighbooooooor

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gah. tchill and lalendra as partners would be like comforting but also too sensical

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in other news: i like that thing boon did where he's like "here is my strategy as scum" and then did that thing and that's something i also like to do

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i think the midterm went okay thanks for asking

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lq played really well i think

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comedy career right?

improv team just had a show actually! about 2hr ago

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Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

incidentally that's pretty much where i'm at if you replace me with tsq

maaan. this was decently ok.

can you not lynch me after i claim low activity because i'm studying? i realize i called a shitty team but i also said it wasn't evaluated

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I thought TSQ was just playstyle scummy, and I don’t think I ever would have gone him over Egg, to be honest.

to me he just seemed fake angry a lot and dissonant with what i expected from his attitude about the game elsewhere (i would have expected him to be town leadery and focused on bread-and-butter scumhunting a lot)

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eBBie where did u get meBa on me from

i mean i was somewhat different from scum but really only that i was like asking questions. and in theory i could have just done soul-searching and just decided to do that

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ebbie seems pretty good at mafia

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meme