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[Mulch]

but when they're looking at you as someone to follow......ya.

I actually tend to have good reads. I don't think you've seen me play except in a mash?

[PantherPunt]

but when they're looking at you as someone to follow......ya.

I actually tend to have good reads. I don't think you've seen me play except in a mash?

It's not meant to be offensive to you or imply that you don't have better than rand reads.

But as far as I can tell, you are voting fitz today without a communicated reason, and one or more people are just going with that and compounding the thoughtless (evidentiary thought, at least) play of this game. It's not mafia and not fun.

I have to keep stopping myself from saying 'just lynch me and free me from this shit' but the feeling is there.

[PantherPunt]

s/o Elena for at the very least pretending to offer substantive thought

[UnaBombaH]

Busy times in my work-project have continued..
I'll unvote for now, because apparently Panther is obv.scum(?) that I have missed..
UNVOTE:

[Tchill13]

kill panther punt

[LlamaFluff]

havingfitz has been prodded

[Lucky2u]

You can actually do the same with a vote tchill

[PantherPunt]

VOTE: pantherpunt

[PantherPunt]

Nobody wants to engage me or discuss anything

I'm just scum "for bussing to end day discussion early"

Good luck going forward

[havingfitz]

I was v/la until today mod so prod is unnecessary.

Panther...if you are town please unvote.

[Srceenplay]

Panther, you haven't done much as of late except trying to throw shade.
You trying to hammer and failing looks bad to me.
You had ghost as a town slot and after his lynch was becoming more apparent your transition to a scum read didn't feel genuine to me.

I think you bussed ghost.
I also think that the tic slot has a chance to be scum. So if both them hold true that would mean you bussed twice. At least once and tried to distance the second time.

[UnaBombaH]

VOTE: pantherpunt

I dislike this as a move.
If you are town, unvote please.

I know this game has died down (I'm very busy IRL myself), but Town shouldn't vote for themselves.
I think only scum do it for emotional plays - town does it out of frustration, but it messes reads up.

[PantherPunt]

Vote Count

Ghostlin (4)

- Srceenplay, BlueBloodedToffee, Mulch, Morality
Srceenplay (1) - Ghostlin
BlueBloodedToffee (1) - UnaBombaH

Not Voting (4) - havingfitz, PantherPunt, tictac, Tchill13

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline for Day Two is October 5th, 6:20 PM in (expired on 2017-10-05 18:20:00)

havingfitz is V/LA until September 20th

aeronut's posts are pretty NAI on the whole, but the gun to head would be town there

for the conjunction of the vedith read and minor points to the 'was gonna read pisskop town until x'

don't expect this to be understood nor should people really utilize this but want to get my thoughts down
>if aero's slot flips scum, I think vedith's slot is highly likely to be town, as scum rarely have the brass to make their first read an unexplained townread on a bro (they typically feel they HAVE to justify it)
>if aero's slot flips town, vedith's slot is ??? but I tend to put a little stock into the read bc it was the single read he felt confident enough in to voice and I for some reason have it in my head that he has a reputation as a decent player

I see that vedith=ghostlin and have felt pretty unsure on ghostlin so that's tempering my feels a bit, but

gun to head that slot is town

for me today

10 posts into ghostlin and I'm good with that slot for now

like the tone especially in posts 0 and 7 of his iso

T

Ghostlin (vedith)

Mulch (cd)

Morality (pisskop) but with less confidence than the first two

(almost) full read of pisskop iso and I am feeling better about him and

possibly keeping ghostlin/vedith on my suspect list

just on the basis that I give slight credence to pk's self-proclaimed soul-peering abilities on vedith

as it stands, the three of them seem to be 'on the town side of the fence'

and I am intrigued by/like pk's callouts on others (currently forgetting other than screen and:) BBT (despite him saying that BBT wasn't getting lynched d1, which may have just been policy, bc as I understand it, BBT gets some reverence on this site)

meant to link those post numbers, sorry.

also,

the tchill=town thing

makes me mildly wary of the vedith slot, who is ghostlin. walking back that townread slightly for now

, but would only lynch today if and only if I don't have a very high confidence scum and/or get much more comfortable with BBT=town

ok I just started into ghostlin's iso a bit

and am not a fan.

also relooked at my own entrance to the game and am reminded that I don't like screenplay.

just went and looked for the latest vc and they are voting each other lol.

still need a fair bit of time to work through some things and get comfortable on all 9 alive but I expect to deliver a gamewinning post this phase

Vote Count

Ghostlin (4)

- Srceenplay, BlueBloodedToffee, Mulch, Morality
Srceenplay (1) - Ghostlin
BlueBloodedToffee (1) - UnaBombaH

Not Voting (4) - havingfitz, PantherPunt, tictac, Tchill13

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline for Day Two is October 5th, 6:20 PM in (expired on 2017-10-05 18:20:00)

Tchill13 is being replaced

Ghostlin is V/LA until September 25th

T
Una
Mulch/cd
Tchill - but do have pause by apparent avoidance of this game

??? - left to sort
morality/pisskop - need to relook but gut says towny, can't help but be paranoid it was a strategic replace out after opening day with 2 quick votes
havingfitz - read him, but not really anything there to help me make an alignment call
BBT - like some of his pots, dislike some; recent behavior is evasive and acting like he won't talk about anything until ghostlin is dead
Srceenplay - haven't read but gut says scummy from bits and pieces

Ghostlin

-

really dislike his posting when I got deeper into it

,

Vedith didn't set off any major alarm bells, claim thing is weird but ime scum don't do that, caveat is I'm not used to MS meta rn

tictac - need to read but have had an ongoing bad feeling about him due to my impression that he is kinda sidelining and not realllly caring to find, push, lynch scum

I think I like that ordering for now but that's what I need to hammer out

Vote Count

Ghostlin (4)

- Srceenplay, BlueBloodedToffee, Mulch, Morality
Srceenplay (1) - Ghostlin
BlueBloodedToffee (1) - UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH (1) - havingfitz

Not Voting (3) - PantherPunt, tictac, Tchill13

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline for Day Two is October 5th, 6:20 PM in (expired on 2017-10-05 18:20:00)

tictac has been prodded
Tchill13 is being replaced

Ghostlin is V/LA until September 25th

VOTE: ghostlin

so when I was thinking he was town, he was at 4 votes. and when I, through better work and solving than anyone in this game even has in them, continuously re-evaluated reads changed him to a scumread, he was still at 4 votes. so tell me more about how it's bussing rather than town re-evaluating reads and in this case, correcting them, to get to a scum lynch

[PantherPunt]

UNVOTE: myself

[PantherPunt]

I also think that the tic slot has a chance to be scum. So if both them hold true that would mean you bussed twice. At least once and tried to distance the second time.

So why aren't you voting tictac slot?

Like...how does it make any rational sense to say that you think a slot is scum, so you're voting me for bussing that slot.

Why is it not instead more likely that I'm just town voting scum?

Why, when that should be a clear possibility to you, would you vote me rather than the tictac slot?

[Srceenplay]

Like I said it doesn't feel natural. In 50 post he goes from a town read to a scum read. It the took you another 70 posts to follow through with the scum and vote. No more discussion or thoughts from you on him, just a vote.

[Srceenplay]

Elena Fisher I was wanting to see what the rest of her catch up read like. Plus my vote is on you and you did not give a reason for me to get off. So I'm not understanding why you think I have to vote that slot before yours?

[PantherPunt]

Like I said it doesn't feel natural. In 50 post he goes from a town read to a scum read. It the took you another 70 posts to follow through with the scum and vote. No more discussion or thoughts from you on him, just a vote.

"It doesn't feel natural" is just your inability to comprehend my superior ability.

The rest of your post is in no way a description of something more likely to come from scum than town.

How do you also intentionally ignore the context of my disdain for the slow pace, ton of subs, and piss poor participation? That was very evidently a factor in voting him when I did so. Ignoring this context really smells agenda-y. Are you doubting your scumread on me or are you unwaveringly dead set still?

[havingfitz]

I'm not feeling Panther. I could do Elena. None of that sounded right.

VOTE: Elena

[Srceenplay]

"It doesn't feel natural" is just your inability to comprehend my superior ability.

That's just hade throwing.

The rest of your post is in no way a description of something more likely to come from scum than town.

Maybe partially true. I would think a good town player wouldn't do it. You just said you are superior, so, hmm.

How do you also intentionally ignore the context of my disdain for the slow pace, ton of subs, and piss poor participation? That was very evidently a factor in voting him when I did so. Ignoring this context really smells agenda-y. Are you doubting your scumread on me or are you unwaveringly dead set still?

That can easily be faked. I know it so I ignored it.
Not doubting it at all. Tunneling now. You seem to be flailing not trying to convey reasoning.

[UnaBombaH]

I wasn't scumreading Panther previously, but just this one self-vote made me feel like it was manipulation.
And town shouldn't need to do that..

I'll try to have time and read tonight - I want to find another perspective to all this, otherwise I'm stuck with sheeping and tunneling.

[Mulch]

Reminder to play this tonight

[PantherPunt]

"It doesn't feel natural" is just your inability to comprehend my superior ability.

That's just hade throwing.

It's the complete opposite of shade throwing. Shade throwing would be something that implied your scummy-ness. By calling you bad, I'm inherently giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're town.

The rest of your post is in no way a description of something more likely to come from scum than town.

Maybe partially true. I would think a good town player wouldn't do it. You just said you are superior, so, hmm.

As a contrarian example, this is shade throwing. An indirect line of thought meant to lead to 'well therefore you should gather that Panther is scum.'

How do you also intentionally ignore the context of my disdain for the slow pace, ton of subs, and piss poor participation? That was very evidently a factor in voting him when I did so. Ignoring this context really smells agenda-y. Are you doubting your scumread on me or are you unwaveringly dead set still?

That can easily be faked. I know it so I ignored it.
Not doubting it at all. Tunneling now. You seem to be flailing not trying to convey reasoning.

I really wanted to see your answer to this most of all. My perception of normal/good town players is that when faced with some counters to their points, they consider them and have some confidence level in reads that is not 100%. Scum, imho, think they have to have these lock-sure reads. You being married to this has garnered my full attention and now I'm mildly motivated to dissect your ISO. Maybe just bang them all out.

[PantherPunt]

I wasn't scumreading Panther previously, but just this one self-vote made me feel like it was manipulation.
And town shouldn't need to do that..

I'll try to have time and read tonight - I want to find another perspective to all this, otherwise I'm stuck with sheeping and tunneling.

Second to lynching scum and finding out it's game over bc it was 10-2, my preference is to die and be rid of this site forever. Not manipulation. If you don't buy what I'm selling by the time I'm done doing whatever it is I decide to do, vote me.

[Srceenplay]

In post 1419, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1417, PantherPunt wrote:
The rest of your post is in no way a description of something more likely to come from scum than town.


Maybe partially true. I would think a good town player wouldn't do it. You just said you are superior, so, hmm.

As a contrarian example, this is shade throwing. An indirect line of thought meant to lead to 'well therefore you should gather that Panther is scum.'

It was to point out the contradiction of you first two statements.

In post 1419, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 1417, PantherPunt wrote:
How do you also intentionally ignore the context of my disdain for the slow pace, ton of subs, and piss poor participation? That was very evidently a factor in voting him when I did so. Ignoring this context really smells agenda-y. Are you doubting your scumread on me or are you unwaveringly dead set still?


That can easily be faked. I know it so I ignored it.
Not doubting it at all. Tunneling now. You seem to be flailing not trying to convey reasoning.

I really wanted to see your answer to this most of all. My perception of normal/good town players is that when faced with some counters to their points, they consider them and have some confidence level in reads that is not 100%. Scum, imho, think they have to have these lock-sure reads. You being married to this has garnered my full attention and now I'm mildly motivated to dissect your ISO. Maybe just bang them all out.

I have not seen counters to my points. That's the point.

I invite you to ISO dive me. Show me what you got.


P.S. I play almost 100% on mobile. Doing these types of posts is a pain in the ass.