Dance of the Title Fairy: Accepting Applications

[Psyche]

Someday I will be title fairie and it will be an entire term length of literally no one getting a title.

That's what you get with this new age generation and their entitlement issues

Psyche's "hey come discuss" attitude is what gets you 100s of pages of people suggest dumb stuff like "doot" and "salmon! because salmon!" over and over and over. Psyche didn't learn from his predecessor's mistakes.

i considered the alternative but then when the thread was dead for two days i felt sad and lonely

[Psyche]

Is the better alternative to "sad and lonely" "entertained by shitposts and spam"?

those are the options we get in life

[Psyche]

Yeah, I think I'll tamp down on shitposts. A more detailed policy will come later.

[Psyche]

i dont know him well enough to judge it confidently tbh

[Psyche]

i do not know how to implement the title nominated

[Psyche]

are we giving up on the Nati discussion?

[Psyche]

Quick question who is this psyche guy and why does he of all people have the op. Nobody even knows him....

do u know the prophecy of the antichrist

[Psyche]

zakk isn't even committed to the meme look how he uses his sig for advertisements

[Psyche]

Psyche, have you considered setting up a standard format for title noms? Like, a fill-in-the-blanks form? "Name of person being nominated" "Title being nominated for" "Explanation of nomination" "Notable examples that would strengthen this nomination"? Maybe set up a little code block just like for the replacements queue, so people can just copy paste and fill it in?

I have, but I'd like to first make it worthwhile by creating some code to process it first (it would automate a lot of little things and make it practical to pagetop and whatnot). For now though, we tolerate the status quo for iust a little longer.

[Psyche]

Why automate it? Why not just only give any attention to noms that follow the correct format?

ill never have to read the thread again ahahaha

[Psyche]

sheesh shaz i'm joking

[Psyche]

I don't know how to implement that.

[Psyche]

no that doesnt work

[Psyche]

isnt it already supposed to be his title? from some previous fairy?

[Psyche]

I keep getting more noms when what I'm really looking for are better arguments. It's so pretty but it doesn't seem to meet the specifications. Oh well!

[Psyche]

Give me a good reason not to reject it anyway.

[Psyche]

I did it, but unfortunately it's not the same as it was before.

[Psyche]

. What's Lily Leanan?

It's kinda esoteric, Leanan sidhe=literally faerie lover. Leanan Sidhe were a succubus-ish faerie type as well. Back when i played mafia, i had a faerie theme to most everything, and anyone whose talked to me on skype/discord knows i waaay overshare about my sex life.

Lily=yuri=Japanese lesbian fiction, which plays into both my incessation gayness and weeabooism.

All thanks to fferyllt, who came up with it. But, it's clever and multifaceted which is what I personally love about it.

this has been the best explanation for the lily title nom so far
unfortunately, even here it's admitted that the nomination is rather esoteric
esoteric titles aren't unprecedent; there's Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, for example
but in the example just referenced, esotericism was part of the point of the title
that connection is what's missing here

as much as i like the poetry of the phrase (the alternative nomination sacrifices that poetry without really fixing the issue), it just doesn't fit with the process
i'm officially

rejecting

it now, but hope you can eventually workshop something else that fits better with the institutional framework

[Psyche]

objectively a bad decision

speaking of which i've been wondering for some time if your title was a mistake i should undo

[Psyche]

because aren't you supposed to be the cool hip new voice-of-the-people type fairy?

and not some grumpy asshole like some of the old title fairies turned into over time?

that sounds like a pretty damn good reason

mmmm
not good enough sry

[Psyche]

happy cake day psyche

THANK YOU MCMENNO
EVERYONE, BE MORE LIKE MCMENNO

[Psyche]

in the interests of being more Cool and also Hip ive decided to make all my posts in this thread in bold italic underlined font for now on

[Psyche]

actually i will change to a more sunny avatar and include a joke in my sig i will not pretend im not an expert on cool

[Psyche]

it's not spam to recognize me on my big and very important day

[Psyche]

i bet u say that to everyone aristo

[Psyche]

gosh that's so grainy and misdimensioned

[Psyche]

one benefit of a program is that i wont have to pretend to keep track of how many nths a given nom has

[Psyche]

does the person ur nominating use italics a lot?

[Psyche]

actually idc fonts are cool

[Psyche]

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29031

I thought we didn't nom people based off of a name?

is this a joke post or

[Psyche]

i can't imagine a better title for you vonflare
"doot" is in many ways my pride and joy

:wink:

this was a very specific type of humor

[Psyche]

think Showtime needs a waiting period

[Psyche]

the thread has about as many views as CD's youtube thread, and the video itself has even fewer
there's a chance this is an example of what davsto was talking about when he advocated waiting periods
it might not seem as big in the rearview mirror as it does right now, esp considering the reality that many users have created MS-centered art, including a lot for various Scummies ceremonies
i think ideally EP would have a title that while maybe centering this video he put a lot of work into also

1)

spans other aspects of him salient within the community, one that

2)

differentiates him from other showmen on site while still not sounding awkward or forced
of course, it's not unprecedented for a title nom to be about some one-off happening, but these do have a risk of being weaker than more comprehensive noms
if i could i'd rather see the thread recognized with some kind of Scummie for GD content; oh well

Anyway, if you insist on this version of the title anyway,

wait 5 days and then get me 3 more nths from new people.

I'll approve it despite my objections.

[Psyche]

i said wait 5 days

[Psyche]

and it's still kinda vague/random
why this reference but not another?

[Psyche]

and it's still kinda vague/random
why this reference but not another?

This is based on Hamilton

i know...

[Psyche]

i like my titles a little more..."broad in meaning" than that
like maybe we can have one that references to parody but also captures something about his persona here
titles about specific happenings aren't unheard of, but the ones i know and like best at least gesture more broadly anyway

[Psyche]

not in good taste, zakk

[Psyche]

guys
im finally free
i'm finally...free
i think now i finally have the time to be the title fairy i've always planned to be

[Psyche]

accountant already called dibs

[Psyche]

The most important thing seems to be to make a script that tracks nomination process and regularly posts votecount-like updates in the thread for my and others' benefit. Once I have that, I think I can make a transition to a new thread regime where shitposting is slightly more curtailed.

Later, I'll finally work on that Title Suggestion bot I've always wanted. It'll only suggest a certain kind of title (puns) but it'll hopefully be useful for brainstorming, and the tool can be expanded later anyway. I think in the process (or instead!) I can just write a guide to doing what I'd be programming the bot to do, but who knows.

[Psyche]

"the hero ms needs" implies BATMAN qualities

[Psyche]

unfortunately "Anti-Bully Ranger" is bad you will have to make something more pithy

[Psyche]

also if ur title nom is gonna reference ping pong the animation ur gonna have to connect alisae to it more closely

[Psyche]

ehhh
but more importantly there are a lot of different sources from which you can derive hero allusions
for example, batman or whatever accountant was previously going for
the one you settle on needs to be apt, or it'll instead be arbitrary

[Psyche]

also need documentation of this behavioral pattern as i haven't noticed it firsthand

[Psyche]

I'd always thought zakk's title was blank before I got here.

[Psyche]

my guess is that it's just really inconvenient to manage in the admin panel

[Psyche]

yeah and i like it too very neat

[Psyche]

i want documentation of referenced behavioral patterns

[Psyche]

hmm i should make tools that can measure stuff like scummer cheerfulness within a web app i wonder if that's possible

[Psyche]

I don't think I'll be a stickler. I'll

approve

Alisae's title on the grounds of its pithy style and broad support. Let's see if he accepts it. No more "they're cheerful" justifications for title noms, though. That's apparently not very special.

[Psyche]

yeah but aristo's title certainly would've been harder to approve after this

[Psyche]

haha

[Psyche]

Alisae has accepted the title.

[Psyche]

I'll experiment to see if a title that long is remotely ok but it's probably not.

[Psyche]

wouldn't "end of the tunnel" convey the same point

[Psyche]

alch is calling the 20/20 thing a double entendre but ot's kind of not

[Psyche]

My memories of it aren't fond either and that'll weigh on things, but on the other hand maybe a lot of people like it. People can go on nomming titles around it, but please don't do it if you don't actually admire the trait you're nthing him over.

I'll probably also increase the nth requirement from 5 depending on how good/bad the final nom is. Honestly don't like either of the ones in play rn.

[Psyche]

as the moderating force of the title fairy thread instead of removing his title i will instead ban him from our subforum for two and one half years

[Psyche]

one year?

[Psyche]

6 months...?

[Psyche]

am i handing out titles too freely
a poll

[Psyche]

no one voted :(

[Psyche]

you guys are just as ambivalent as me aren't you

[Psyche]

I worry I'd end up regretting this title like I regret Accountant's title. The key thing to keep in mind when you nom and nth titles like these is that you shouldn't consider only if it

fits

the person but also if you

value

the referred aspect of the person, at least being entertained by it. I want to be more careful with this principle from here out.

[Psyche]

ok then as long as you have the right mindset

[Psyche]

the default titles i think should be discussed in a generic site ideas thread they aren't my purview

[Psyche]

Two more nths and I guess I'll do it.

[Psyche]

ok i get it shushs

[Psyche]

Was accountant's title a good title?
a poll

[Psyche]

i like that banned people's titles sort of capture why they were banned

[Psyche]

or do i hate

[Psyche]

I'll

okay the Wisdom title

. Only God knows if he'll accept.

[Psyche]

is my OP missing anything

[Psyche]

should i make a bot that moderates the title thread for me
a poll

[Psyche]

WHY DOESN'T THIS EVER WORK

[Psyche]

sourcing plz

[Psyche]

just convince me it's a thing and also not a gimmick like maybe some previous titles i've approved were

[Psyche]

I was worried that the trajectory thing isn't distinctive to fferyllt, or that she doesn't quite reach titan levels of play because of it. So I did some field work to determine for myself if fferyllt is all she's cracked up to be. This quest took me to many parts of the site. I traveled to New York. From there I took the long trek to Rome, my eyes aching all the while. On the way, deep in the wilderness of MD, I often found myself trapped in the muck of wall-posts; hours would pass before I'd find myself wakeful long enough to escape. At one chaotic juncture in a Theme Park, I was forced to leave behind my only real friend, my wonderful sense of humor. Eventually, though, I made it to the fferyllt mausoleum in the Mafia Wiki, where she had inscribed intellectually respectable stuff (i guess) about her trajectory oriented playstyle eons ago, far longer ago than any gimmick has ever survived (besides I guess Zorblag's thing). I had finally found what I was looking for. I had finally found...validation.

so ok i guess i'll approve it

[Psyche]

Surprised we're getting so many noms with so little disagreement on the title wording. Guess I hit a good spot?

yah ur good with words don't ever write or speak for free ok

[Psyche]

guys i typed an interesting story if i dont get props i will, like, freak

[Psyche]

yall think being a title fairy is easy bc we're so casual about it
it's not we only act that way to protect you

[Psyche]

im confused and scared bc u used an indefinite pronoun

[Psyche]

phew i thought you were telling me to delete the thread or something due to my having Finally Crossed The Line with this ffery thing

[Psyche]

would it or would it not be a waste of time to make a tool for brainstorming titles based on a set of schticks ur interested in mentioning

[Psyche]

meh there's no harm in it

[Psyche]

already a thing
which is important to note

[Psyche]

not me

[Psyche]

hmmm
ok

[Psyche]

best titles on the site

yeah i get that a lot

[Psyche]

ill give it back if u apologize

[Psyche]

ill give it back if u apologize

...Do I have to?

only if u want to

[Psyche]

im sry but characterizing his scumhunting with a metaphor is not enough to merit giving him a title

[Psyche]

why

[Psyche]

Annie Get Your Gun references a musical RC has no ties to and connotes being vig or even mafia more than it does scumhunting (we lynch those).

And "RAWR" suggests a certain emo subculture than it does, say, Tibbers.

[Psyche]

The Second Coming was a perfect title. The Third Coming is, like, a Mean Girls sequel.

[Psyche]

These are my opinions but please feel free to keep discussing, advocating titles.

[Psyche]

Psyche (03:43)
ive decided to ban lalaladucks from the title fairy thread
Psyche (03:43)
for hubris

[Psyche]

nvm i dont know how to ban people

[Psyche]

Never Again

[Psyche]

and i was very opposed to "rap it up"

[Psyche]

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/rawr
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rawr

i just dont think these are RC
it doesn't really connote anything about tibbers, and i don't see much of his personality in it either

[Psyche]

and if you don't like a title, campaign to have it removed or something; don't try to ram through more titles of similar quality

[Psyche]

i'm not opposed to any particular RC title personally, but I don't feel the options so far hit the mark

[Psyche]

by the way, probably gonna make it harder for rc to get any title due to antinoms here and elsewhere
this isn't to say a title is impossible, but it might require more than 5 nths

[Psyche]

yah i'm fine as long as the explanation is accessible

[Psyche]

Okay, I've decided I'm gonna put my foot down here so that maybe discussion can progress to alternatives. I'm not going to approve "RAWR". I apologize for the inconvenience.

[Psyche]

yeah well you are hereby banned from trying

[Psyche]

how about for slepykrew

[Psyche]

me too
and it's more apt than ever!

[Psyche]

i am a cool fun friendly title fairy look at my dancing avatar

so much has changed

[Psyche]

do you remember my smile
do you remember my promises?

[Psyche]

how did someone vote

[Psyche]

skrew is that avatar appropriate

[Psyche]

if u come to my minimeet ur nth counts for two for like three months

[Psyche]

ok it's a slow thread
let's talk about giving shotty the title he - no, that mafiascum.net - deserves

[Psyche]

doesn't really need to be manual
but even then to be worth it, it must be artful

[Psyche]

i have to be honest ive only been pretending to understand the weep not for me thing this whole time

[Psyche]

i know cybele edited like all her posts to say that but there is no way she is a meme generator i reject the thought

[Psyche]

oh it really is cybelle

[Psyche]

it's an opportunity to have a little fun at banned people's expense

[Psyche]

Am not sure. Maybe it's harmless, maybe it's evil or just unwise.

[Psyche]

tbh im just killing time here until the next title nom

[Psyche]

sorry wlby i wasnt saying that was what you were trying to do it was in fact what i had in mind myself as i am but a troll with power

[Psyche]

no it's just a meme

[Psyche]

hey psyche can u get rid of this terrible title

cheet is cool give that guy an appropriate title the ms paint thing doesn't fit his cool guy cool guyness

yes ok thank you

[Psyche]

yes i think we should really double down on the username pun thing here

[Psyche]

hey i was being supportive! affirmative!

[Psyche]

its vry fun to take people seriously when they don't mean to be

[Psyche]

yah okay

[Psyche]

yah i think i'm gonna make that title brainstorming tool no matter the feedback

[Psyche]

today annadog supercedes cooldog as the most prolific dog in gd

[Psyche]

can i lowercase all the letters in annadog's title

[Psyche]

anna's title looks weird there right??

[Psyche]

would you like ur title to be "tittle"

[Psyche]

can i have a vonflare themed avatar

[Psyche]

i can't quite put my finger on it but it feels insufficient; i wonder if we can use the material to generate something that...stands out more? is punchier? more focused? idk i don't have the right words

[Psyche]

lol

[Psyche]

yah i'm marvelling at it
would the title generator i'm imagining be able to recommend something like that from the ideas floating in this thread?
i don't know but if it were worthwhile it would

[Psyche]

ooh compost what about that one it's shorter

[Psyche]

sry guys as title fairy i think it's my job to insist on shorter versions of perfectly good titles

[Psyche]

ive already pmed the proper authorities

[Psyche]

i need people who don't like doot to speak up bc it could actually happen

[Psyche]

ding dong doot is dead ty for the input

[Psyche]

shea has decided to add the title fairy thread to his egosearch let's all give him a big welcome

[Psyche]

did i only raise the idea bc i didnt want the thread to die again or am i otherwise neurotic find out at 11

[Psyche]

bc i used the word "otherwise"

[Psyche]

when do i get a specifically congratulatory post/pm combo

[Psyche]

soeaking of which, friends my op is not up to date my challenge to you is to help me discern the ways as a prize ill write you user-specific fanfiction

[Psyche]

tell me friends
what is keeping you personally from nominating other scummers for titles

[Psyche]

no more rainbow text itt plz

[Psyche]

when i grow up i wanna be a robot

[Psyche]

ok guys new nom
LicketyQuickety for Lil Quig
whaddya think?
Lil Quig for LicketyQuickety
it sure sounds like a ringer to me

[Psyche]

great im glad everyone agrees
Lil Quig for LicketyQuickety approved

[Psyche]

also did you

know

that i was on the winning team for team mafia 2015 but never got the rectangle to show for it because i "replaced out" at some point along the line?
i am now accepting nominations to finally bestow unto me what is rightfully mine

[Psyche]

could be a bit pitheier aristo tbh

[Psyche]

r u still unable to vote in the poll

[Psyche]

then u r dead to me

[Psyche]

oh no

[Psyche]

*modvoice*

hey pagetopping is just lame spam and bad

[Psyche]

speaking of which how do you guys evaluate the possibility that the thread has lost verve bc of all the shitposting i allow

[Psyche]

“vigor and spirit or enthusiasm”

[Psyche]

its vry inarguably a good title

[Psyche]

sighh

[Psyche]

it’s a nonsense word what is wrong with you guys

[Psyche]

i am getting tired of this shitpost central thing

[Psyche]

nope to doot

[Psyche]

after my vacation

[Psyche]

stick to prequel memes i prefer prequel memes

[Psyche]

make a new threaddd

[Psyche]

ok, pause

[Psyche]

Ok, so I'm changing up the rules on shitposting a little bit.

I'm just not going to welcome it. This isn't GD. Your posts in this thread should usually be on-topic - contributing to the process of finding and securing good titles for users on this site. Occasional, especially tasteful off-topic posts are fine. But if a pattern of shitposting becomes evident and annoying, you'll be warned, and after repeated offenses or some egregious offense, you'll be banned from the subforum, etc.

I just think all this turns people off from contributing to this thread, and is better done in some other thread anyway.

[Psyche]

People seem to have this impression that one "anti-nom" = one "nom" so instead of the threshold being 5 noms it's now anti-noms + 5.

what does this impression really impact though if good titles that have 5 noms still get approved

[Psyche]

People seem to have this impression that one "anti-nom" = one "nom" so instead of the threshold being 5 noms it's now anti-noms + 5.

what does this impression really impact though if good titles that have 5 noms still get approved

It impacts what gets posted in this thread, clearly.

how / like what

[Psyche]

titles should accessible/appreciable to the broader community

[Psyche]

Hi, guys.

This is a reminder and warning to explain your title nominations when you make them, or immediately afterward. It's pretty low-effort, and if you don't, you're making it the job of everyone around you to think through your post, even just to see that it's a joke nom. Nominations without explanations will be read as shitposts, and of course joke noms will and have always been read as much as well. If you want to kid around, we have places for that; it's not here.

This has always been in the rules, but I've never attached any penalty to their breaking because no one really got set into a clear and disruptive pattern of low-effort/joke noms. But I'll put my foot down from here out since I have to, I guess. Nice day!

[Psyche]

oh and the penalty is a warning or ban based on your previous ban history

[Psyche]

I figured out how to ban people!

In unrelated news, vonflare is taking a break from the thread for a week for harassment, etc. His behavior was found exceptional for its regularity (extending over many posts), acrimony, and distraction from the proper function of the thread. Everyone, if you've a problem with a user's posts, you have many options besides harassment, including reporting, ignoring, avoiding, and even respectful engagement. It can even be possible to pointedly complain about someone without being an asshole. Try it out some time, if you gotta.

See you around...

[Psyche]

good titles tie communicate one or a few distinctive things about someone in a clever/pithy but easy to explain way that resonates w/ broad community

"hell in a cell", for example, ties panzer's interest in wrestling w/ his brusque communication style and is evocative imaginationwise
"shea" is subtle, conveying tsq's hyperpersonable social style not by outright calling it out but by laying out a direct artifact of this style directly linked to the classic function of titles to 'name' things
"second coming" w/ just two words tied together loads of apparently unrelated coincidences about mastin2, seeming to produce an iconic mythos on the spot
etc etc

what makes a good title depends a bit on what's already a title, because they sort of set baseline expectations/norms for titles that have to be played on for any "cleverness" standard to be met, but witty language is universablabhaslashblabhalablah

[Psyche]

it was why i supported it

[Psyche]

Your favorite titles are some of my least favorite, and this makes me sad, but your explanations are something I can work with. Thanks for taking the time!

oh they're just the good titles whose value i can easily explain

[Psyche]

no thanks

[Psyche]

did i say brusque? i meant to say busk
your posts are like a rousing street performance

[Psyche]

is one-dimensional

[Psyche]

it’s not bad; a bit generic for my tastes but i’m willing to defer to the community

[Psyche]

ill leave window open for discussion for a bit then move forward if nothing better comes up

[Psyche]

fear it would open the floodgates to many mediocre titles that could but might never be improved on

[Psyche]

no, "mediocre" means "of only moderate quality; not very good"; think the label is apt for this title

ill leave window open for discussion for a bit then move forward if nothing better comes up

[Psyche]

meh ill give signer a choice between the two

[Psyche]

ok then

[Psyche]

no i think we’ve finally found the one person on this site worthy of the doot mantle

[Psyche]

i did a search
jdodge did the first doot
i thereby propose we change his title
to "doot prime"

[Psyche]

what but i um

[Psyche]

ok then uh...24 hour ban?

[Psyche]

due to excessive spam in the last page i have decided to ban everyone

[Psyche]

My regret isn't that a whole week went buy without a post in this thread. It's that I still have this darned to-do list.

[Psyche]

im not sure at all whether anyone has ever deserved a thing tbh

[Psyche]

hm a rejections log i could do that

[Psyche]

It got so many nths that I felt like I’d come off as a stickler if I refused it. Next time I’ll be stronger.