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[Srceenplay]

UNVOTE:
I'm going to wait for a new perspective with the replacement.
For now I'm still ok with ghost.

This doesn't compute for me.

Looks like you are trying to open up the floor for a chance to vote another wagon based on perspective from new person. Or that you are losing confidence in your ghostlin scumread. But that can't be possible because you still say you're ok with ghost lynch. But if you think it's scum and have been clamoring for that lynch, why remove your vote? The point of the game is to lynch scum, ya?

I did it do exactly the reason stated. Nothing more nothing less. With that in mind I would hope why you can see how it bothers me that you tried to hammer but failed only to have ghost donit for you.

It shouldn't bother you at all that I tried to hammer. How are you saying that is a scum point? Are all hammers on scum scummy then? If not, why is mine differentiated? Qualify your fucking opinion.

Because I specifically asked us to wait for a replacement. You ignored it without reason thought or discussion.

[Srceenplay]

srceenplay - I don't want to overload you with questions, so I'll pause after this one, but I want answers to all eventually.

Of the players in the game, aeronut/fitz slot is one that you've never offered a thought or a read on. Why is that? What is your read on that slot and why?

I don't know. After mulch voted him I know I ISO him but I don't remember anything worth talking about. It obviously wasn't anything for me to consider it over you.

So I'll ask again - what is your read on that slot and why?

Null.
I suppose I can read it tonight and put some thoughts down.

[PantherPunt]

UNVOTE:
I'm going to wait for a new perspective with the replacement.
For now I'm still ok with ghost.

This doesn't compute for me.

Looks like you are trying to open up the floor for a chance to vote another wagon based on perspective from new person. Or that you are losing confidence in your ghostlin scumread. But that can't be possible because you still say you're ok with ghost lynch. But if you think it's scum and have been clamoring for that lynch, why remove your vote? The point of the game is to lynch scum, ya?

I did it do exactly the reason stated. Nothing more nothing less. With that in mind I would hope why you can see how it bothers me that you tried to hammer but failed only to have ghost donit for you.

It shouldn't bother you at all that I tried to hammer. How are you saying that is a scum point? Are all hammers on scum scummy then? If not, why is mine differentiated? Qualify your fucking opinion.

Because I specifically asked us to wait for a replacement. You ignored it without reason thought or discussion.

But that isn't a justification of why it's scummy from me?

Objectively, it should skew to towny. A new perspective could have shifted the lynch elsewhere onto a mislynch. I hammered and we got a scum lynch. So again, you framing my hammer vote as your complete justification of why I'm scum is nonsense and you saying you're 100% married to your scumread on me is scummy AF

[PantherPunt]

srceenplay - I don't want to overload you with questions, so I'll pause after this one, but I want answers to all eventually.

Of the players in the game, aeronut/fitz slot is one that you've never offered a thought or a read on. Why is that? What is your read on that slot and why?

I don't know. After mulch voted him I know I ISO him but I don't remember anything worth talking about. It obviously wasn't anything for me to consider it over you.

So I'll ask again - what is your read on that slot and why?

Null.
I suppose I can read it tonight and put some thoughts down.

I think this is absolutely necessary bc in my wordlbuilding spreadsheet, if you're scum, he's your #1 most likely partner fmpov.

If you know that to not be true, you should have no fear in giving some great genuine thoughts on the slot that appear as just that.

[Srceenplay]

I try to do fitz tonight.


You trying to discuss reasoning for hammering and not waiting doesn't make sense to me.
If you had concerns with me wanting to wait or a new perspective coming in being wrong why not state them before the hammer.

Again it's not that you tried to hammer and failed it is also that it appears ghost came in and saved you from it.

[PantherPunt]

I try to do fitz tonight.


You trying to discuss reasoning for hammering and not waiting doesn't make sense to me.
If you had concerns with me wanting to wait or a new perspective coming in being wrong why not state them before the hammer.

Again it's not that you tried to hammer and failed it is also that it appears ghost came in and saved you from it.

Well before I knew Ghostlin was scum, I couldn't really have concerns about you backing out of the wagon, ldo.

And I was just fed up with the number of replacements and didn't have Ghostlin as town. And voila, scum flip.

I still have no comprehension about why me being an L-1 vote that thought was a hammer is a bad thing. Or how scum self-hammering could even be a "save" of anything if a scumbro made the L-1 vote thinking it was a hammer.

Your entire thought premise makes no sense to me. And yet you have 100% confidence I'm scum from that point alone (and my 'floundering' in every post since, apparently).

Looking forward to your fitz read.

[PantherPunt]

Do you guys have day talk? I don't.

What prompted this post?

I'd like this to be answered still, too.

[Srceenplay]

I was being a sarcastic smart ass.
Asking scum if scum had day PT.

[PantherPunt]

I was being a sarcastic smart ass.
Asking scum if scum had day PT.

Do you know what made you think to say it? Seems pretty LAMISTy

It's confusing to see town say, "I don't." Confusing how that thought would even enter your mind.

[Elena Fisher]

I believe you both are townvtown and scum could very well be fliz and Unba at the moment

[Elena Fisher]

I am (mostly) caught up and those are my 2 major scumreads that I feel like voting in I was scumreading Panthers slot until the replace in where I felt a lot of there reaction has been genuine and is outright towny.

[UnaBombaH]

I believe you both are townvtown and scum could very well be fliz and Unba at the moment

Show me how fitz+Una works.
I'm not saying it couldn't, I'm just interested in hearing how.

[Elena Fisher]

I believe you both are townvtown and scum could very well be fliz and Unba at the moment

Show me how fitz+Una works.
I'm not saying it couldn't, I'm just interested in hearing how.

Hm the way you're implying do you think certain teams wouldn't work? How am I suppose to show you have "this team" works.

[PantherPunt]

Una - how has your read on Srceenplay developed, if at all, since you last weighed in on him?

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: unabombah

I'm going to do a completely 180 here. this is a good lynch today.

[PantherPunt]

Vote Count

havingfitz (3) - Mulch, Tchill13, UnaBombaH
PantherPunt (2) - Lucky2u, Srceenplay
UnaBombaH (1) - havingfitz
Elena Fischer (1) - PantherPunt

Not Voting (1) - Elena Fischer

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

havingfitz is V/LA through October 8th

Deadline for Day Three is October 17th, 6:30AM PST. In (expired on 2017-10-17 06:30:00)

ok let's talk folks. 3 of you on havingfitz. why? where do we go from here?

counter-question: do you have a 'why not'? or are you just asking for a reason from the voters? have you read fitz? it's a quick and easy read

VOTE: unabombah

I'm going to do a completely 180 here. this is a good lynch today.

Why do you think una is scum?

[PantherPunt]

I'm ok with suspicion on dunk

mulch

and tic for now.

0

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3 friend I would ask what made you felt this way but given we're a lot of days in I assume these reads have changed

are you hardclearing mulch for vedith-cd interaction?

[Lucky2u]

Vote Count

havingfitz (3) - Mulch, Tchill13, UnaBombaH
PantherPunt (2) - Lucky2u, Srceenplay
UnaBombaH (1) - havingfitz
Elena Fischer (1) - PantherPunt

Not Voting (1) - Elena Fischer

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

havingfitz is V/LA through October 8th

Deadline for Day Three is October 17th, 6:30AM PST. In (expired on 2017-10-17 06:30:00)

ok let's talk folks. 3 of you on havingfitz. why? where do we go from here?

counter-question: do you have a 'why not'? or are you just asking for a reason from the voters? have you read fitz? it's a quick and easy read

VOTE: unabombah

I'm going to do a completely 180 here. this is a good lynch today.

Why do you think una is scum?

I have read fitz, I scum lean on it, but I was happier with your lynch until the last few pages of you and screen. At the same time I was reviewing una and I think the reasons behind me thinking they were foolish town was just me prefering my other scum reads. They have done their best today to accept no responsibility for happens on whatever wagon they land on. 9/10 thats going to be scum.

[Elena Fisher]

I'm ok with suspicion on dunk

mulch

and tic for now.

0

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3 friend I would ask what made you felt this way but given we're a lot of days in I assume these reads have changed

are you hardclearing mulch for vedith-cd interaction?

Yes. Do you think I shouldn't be?

VOTE: Unabombah

[Srceenplay]

read fitz.
Nothing stands out as scumy. Was a couple of post I thought maybe were but after going back over they make sense to me.
I think I'm ok giving fitz a town read.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

havingfitz (2) - Mulch, Tchill13
UnaBombaH (2) - Lucky2u, Elena Fischer
PantherPunt (1) - Srceenplay
Srceenplay (1) - PantherPunt
Elena Fischer (1) - havingfitz

Not Voting (1) - UnaBombaH

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline for Day Three is October 17th, 6:30AM PST. In (expired on 2017-10-17 06:30:00)

[Srceenplay]

Lucky and Elena, who do yo think fits well with una?

Elena, are you all the way caught up? Anyone high up town for you and/or definite scum for you?

[havingfitz]

Spoiler: Una ISO

Day 1:

ISO1/#12 - Points suspicions towards the 4 players on the page 1 Vedith wagon. Say 1 of 4 is scum (Tchill, BBT, tictac, Dunker).

ISO3/#348 - 24 hours later he finally places a vote and it's not on any of the 4 players alluded to above. Also says he is most likely the same alignment as L-1 Mulch (who I am currently tr'ing). This would play in well with scum Una if the impending lynch on Mulch had gone through and he turned out to be town like I suspect atm. tictac calls him out on this association with Mulch and places a harmless Una vote.

ISO5/#461 - Lamenting his activity and lack of reads.

Spends a few posts shading Dunker but stating it's not enough to vote him.

ISO12/#474 - A little sarcasm directed at Tchill and Aero/fitz for the lack of attention they have been gettting.

ISO13/#478 - Says he can get behind a Tchill wagon (for essentially lynch all lurker reasoning) but doesn't put a vote on Tchill.

ISO16/#532 - Blows a little smoke up Creature's ass.

ISO21/#580 - Despite not really feeling a Dunker lynch up to this point decides to vote Dunk for the info his lynch would bring vs the pisskop counterwagon.

Not feeling this Dunker vote.

ISO22/#598 - I haven't ISO's Srceenplay yet but this Una post feels like playful banter/distancing between partners.

ISO23/#643 - Defends self a bit against Creature...Creature who is such a strong player per Una. Creature who seems certain Una is scum and who died N1.

ISO24/#680 - Unvotes Dunker and says he is probably town.

ISO27/#685 - Long post describing theory that Dunker was a counter to Srceenplay's L-5 wagon. No mention of the other wagons that were popping up in the same timeframe as the Dunker wagon (i.e. pisskop and Tchill).

ISO29/#707 - pisskop is way more likely scum than Elyse. Votes pisskop. Don't recall any reasoning.

ISO32/#713 - Sheeps Creature on BBT with no reasoning.

ISO33/#715 - Doesn't think Elyse is scum.

ISO34/#751 - Agreesa that Elyse would make a good late day policy lynch (along with Aero/fitz).

ISO35/#788 - Back to pisskop. Brings the wagon to L-2 and stays there the rest of day 1. If Una is scum....pisskop/Morality probably town.

Day 2:

ISO43/#1073 - Scumreading BBT, Srceenplay and Ghostlin...votes BBT for terrible ISO.

ISO45/#1077 - Advocates against the Ghostlin L-2 wagon because BBT and Srceenplay are on it. Somewhat consistent with his reads but also convenient if he is off a Ghostlin lynch that winds up hitting town.

tl;dr:

I could get behing a Una lynch. Nothing jumps out at me as town and he has managed to subtley support a few wagons while avoiding pushing them. i.e. Low commitment with a lot of shading is how I interpret his ISO.

Still have a few more ISO's to do but this feels better than anyone I've ISO'd so far.

VOTE: UnaBombaH

I'm sheeping mulch until sunday when I actually might have time and energy to provide something more.

VOTE: havingfitz

At least you could say Mulch got it wrong when I flip town

What's your current read on BBT/Lucky2u?

VOTE: UnaBombah

Show me how fitz+Una works.

I'm not saying it couldn't

, I'm just interested in hearing how.

How are you "not saying it couldn't?" I

know

it "couldn't" because I'm town. smh......town shouldn't be leaving the option of being scum open. (scum shouldn't either but they at least have to think about it...town shouldn't).

VOTE: UnaBombaH

[Srceenplay]

Lucky and Elena, who do yo think fits well with una?

Elena, are you all the way caught up? Anyone high up town for you and/or definite scum for you?

same questions to you fitz

[havingfitz]

Anyone high up town for you and/or definite scum for you?

Mostly slim t&s leans tenuously based on read-throughs that didn't have anything ping me significantly either way.

Una pinged me most of the ISO's I have done which I provided in my spoiler on him.

I still have a few other ISO's to do. Elena pinged me a bit on some of her posts and is a slight scumread via poe. If Una is the lynch and flips scum I would rethink her.