Mini 1947: Board Game uPick: The Expansion! Game Over

[WhyMafia]

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

[WhyMafia]

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

What makes chickadee not scummy to you?

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

What makes chickadee not scummy to you?

It was a reaction test. I had Chick at null. I see where she's coming from most of the time, and I like her posts so light town read. 2IAM is stronger. What makes her scum?

[WhyMafia]

I'm completely confused here

Me too.

I don't know what's the discussion, I'm just getting townreads.

How are you getting town reads if you don't know what's going on

[WhyMafia]

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

What makes chickadee not scummy to you?

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

What makes chickadee not scummy to you?

It was a reaction test. I had Chick at null. I see where she's coming from most of the time, and I like her posts so light town read. 2IAM is stronger. What makes her scum?

We don't have 2IAM as scum? What gave you that impression?

I was referring to Chick

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: SS
Not for the same reasons as Random. Tentative as I don't have too many solid reads. Want to see how this progresses

[WhyMafia]

Creature, earlier you said had town reads. What's the update on those? SS, do you find creature scummy because he voted you? Arcade, why did you choose to unvote if you weren't going to vote someone

[WhyMafia]

SS you're more of a gut read for me. I don't get why people are saying that it's that you're confident in your reads. I don't get that impression. Post 39 and 68 ping me as they seem fake. Post 80 seems weird because to me it looks like you're posting for the sake of posting.

[WhyMafia]

Why does it matter if it's at L-3? Why can't we continue applying pressure to a slot so it's easier to sort it? I barely have reads, so I'm sticking to this to see how it plays out.

[WhyMafia]

Post 80 seems weird because to me it looks like you're posting for the sake of posting.

I mean, that's not that far off. I'm posting for the sake of sharing my honest thoughts. But how do you figure that that's a scum characteristic?

It just pinged me.

[WhyMafia]

His vote and reasoning was lazy, and his early posts (particularly 209) don't sound like his usual gamesolve-y self; I'd think as town he'd try to interact or do a little more with his reads than just passively mention them.

Are you using meta for this? Additionally, why didn't you try to question him on his reads then? And why is it lazy if he doesn't have a better alternative.

[WhyMafia]

Okay.

Has your gut historically been accurate in that regard?

My Day 1 gut yes. Then I lose confidence and combust

[WhyMafia]

and the maybe was Something_Smart I think.

What changed?

[WhyMafia]

I'm confused about what happened with Morph's slot

[WhyMafia]

Whymafia because I can't read him.

Whymafia because I can't read him.

Had to be used by night one or we vanillized another player at random. If we hit town, they gain ~powers~ and we die, day continues.

If they're scum? Nothing happens, but we lose the power.

Makes perfect sense for such a high risk high reward character as the one we chose.

So how does Ash become conf!town/scum?

[WhyMafia]

I like SS's recent posts

[WhyMafia]

I'll VOTE: Randomidget

[WhyMafia]

I retract my vote. After I iso'd I thought I remembered SS having more strong stances than he did.

UNVOTE: Something Smart

So how does Ash become conf!town/scum?

Read what you quoted; 359

I'm still confused
If he's scum he gains no power
If he's town he gains power

Does Morph know what power specifically?

[WhyMafia]

The first post is quoted because I liked that. Seemed honest

[WhyMafia]

If he's scum he gains no power
If he's town he gains power

He dies if mad king is town

Oh for some reason I was completely blind

[WhyMafia]

ActionDan what are your reads

[WhyMafia]

AMA

[WhyMafia]

@Random so who do you think has been scummy

[WhyMafia]

Ok. Can someone explain the sudden shift in the thread?

[WhyMafia]

Why does it matter if we lynch RC/Morph
Either way we're catching scum. I'll vote the leading wagon, but I just read-up, and so far the main thing I've seen are associations and that such a role is improbable to exist

[WhyMafia]

Drixx claims mason: lynch morph.
Drixx doesn't claim mason: lynch MKA.

That's what I thought would be better.

[WhyMafia]

Why does it matter if we lynch RC/Morph
Either way we're catching scum. I'll vote the leading wagon, but I just read-up, and so far the main thing I've seen are associations and that such a role is improbable to exist

Don't let WhyMafia wriggle away from the implications of this post tomorrow by the way.

Or why don't you explain it now since we're waiting for Drixx and I still remember what I was thinking so I can respond to it ...?

[WhyMafia]

Why do I need to take a stance when there's more information that basically confirms a decision?

[WhyMafia]

But you don't get to equivocate about what the alignment of today's lynch means for the other side of the 1v1 (or maybe 1v2) tomorrow.

That doesn't make sense. This is S v T and I am not going to waste my time arguing for one side when one person will decide it all. I don't understand why you're trying to make my views irrelevant and discouraging me to give my time here and participate.

[WhyMafia]

Sure feels like it. Additionally, I've tried engaging. I even said here to question me on stuff:

AMA

You chose to ignore it. I want to engage with people. However, I'm lost, so I wanted some guiding questions. If you felt that way, why didn't you question me then? Why do you choose to do so now when I say I might be open to lynching you.

[WhyMafia]

I feel like you don't actually want to express a view

What gave you this "feeling"

[WhyMafia]

I had no idea what AMA meant, was focused on other stuff going on, and I was around for only a short while when you posted it before going back to phone-mode.

But if you're thinking that I don't want to give a stance, wouldn't you at least .. Idk .. wonder what AMA means .. or even ask me what it referred to? So what if you were focused on other matters, I tried to get myself engaged. You could've asked me later as well; but you still didn't. You're saying I don't want to give a stance. You're literally pushing a falsehood because you don't want to look bad.

I don't really feel like it's my job to see to it that you have help getting engaged. I'd do it anayway, but AMA was a meaningless TLA and didn't suggest you needed something from me.

But that's not even the point??? You're pushing a falsehood and ignoring what I'm saying. How am I trying not to give a stance? You literally saw the contradictory post and said nothing, then, and afterwards.

The fact that you didn't express a view. There's a fair bit of content from both us and Raskbells in the thread already. You aren't able to come up with some sort of preliminary read about which of us feels more/less up front or has more or less genuine feeling comments about the situation?

Because what's the point of analyzing things when one person's comments will make all the difference? I didn't understand the slots at first read, so I'm not going to try to comprehend it until Drixx says something, as that will decide a lot of things. I will say now, the way you're pushing a false narrative is getting under my nerve

[WhyMafia]

Because I flat out have no idea what to say. I'm confused and don't have an opinion. So I'm relying on Drixx to set myself straight

[WhyMafia]

What's the falsehood?

You're saying I'm trying not to take a stance

[WhyMafia]

My specific concern is worry that we won't be here tomorrow to be sure that you FOLLOW THROUGH with the logical lines of analysis after either Raskbells flips scum or we flip town at the conclusion of this day. So I want SOMEONE to do that for us. That's why I called your post out.

I still don't get what you're saying. Once one of you flip, I'm going to be pressuring my other scum reads. What do you mean "logical lines of analysis". I'm bad with associations. I'll let someone else do the analysis and say what I think on it

[WhyMafia]

But, you do stand out somewhat in that you didn't commentate as the game developed to our using our ability and Raskbell's reacting to it and eventually claiming, and then made the wait-and-see post.

Tell me this: If you didn't know what to think and were confused by the gamestate, what would you do

[WhyMafia]

My specific concern is worry that we won't be here tomorrow to be sure that you FOLLOW THROUGH with the logical lines of analysis after either Raskbells flips scum or we flip town at the conclusion of this day. So I want SOMEONE to do that for us. That's why I called your post out.

I still don't get what you're saying. Once one of you flip, I'm going to be pressuring my other scum reads. What do you mean "logical lines of analysis". I'm bad with associations. I'll let someone else do the analysis and say what I think on it

I don't think the lines to pursue will be all that murky. Maybe that's why you've pinged -- you're seeing some sort of 8th dimensional chess situation looming on day 2, and I'm seeing a much more clear-cut day 2, with some murk starting to gather on day 3, maybe.

Ok. Yeah day 2 is obvious play tomorrow. But if it's clear-cut, why do you think I'm scummy for not giving a stance?

[WhyMafia]

I don't think the game state is that complicated, lynch MKA, then lynch random, then go by night action results.

Well talk to Drixx replacement first, and then judge lynch based off that. But yeah the gist is the same

[WhyMafia]

Isn't that bastard ...

[WhyMafia]

Heh. Times up, scumfuck.

No it isn't. We're still gonna await drixx's claim

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: actiondan

[WhyMafia]

Vote: Chickadee

Why chick?

[WhyMafia]

Oi chick

[WhyMafia]

I think I know why there was a no kill.

[WhyMafia]

It's not cut dry though. I have only theories

[WhyMafia]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

[WhyMafia]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

I say go for it.

I'll wait for others to chime in

[WhyMafia]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

I say go for it.

I'll wait for others to chime in

then why did you ask?

I want a general consensus not just one opinion

[WhyMafia]

Contingent on something, morph is conf town

[WhyMafia]

If anyone visited morph please claim that you visited them. It doesn't matter if you don't give what happened. Just say if you visited morph.

[WhyMafia]

@morph are you BP

[WhyMafia]

Morph I need you to claim BP/not BP in your next post

[WhyMafia]

Well you just ruined every thought I had

[WhyMafia]

Do not claim if you visited morph last night. I do not have a hard inno on him anymore

[WhyMafia]

I have roughly the same reads as Porkens. Yeah this game is hard to get into. Nothing has really pinged me. SS raised a valid point on that short Drixx post though. Maybe scum team hoped Drixx would be V/LA longer and were hoping to cruise it out. So light scum read on Drixx

[WhyMafia]

Creature's play is kinda reminding me of this game viewtopic.php?t=71483&f=53&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go
So I can see myself voting him. The only hesitation from me is if his lack of sorting is for the same reasons I am struggling to sort

[WhyMafia]

Whymafia is my hard TR, don't think he can be maf. Based on his yesterday and his posting today, this seems like his town game.

I think Something_Smart, TIAM and morph are my town leans.

Chickadee a bit lower than them, still a bit of a townread.

Action is prob scum, idk tho.

^ These are my reads ^

I don't know if I should feel flattered or insulted. I've basically done nothing this game. I don't get how I can be your hard town read

[WhyMafia]

I think lynching Chickadee might be the best lynch at this point because it's not based on gut, but if we lynch chickadee and chickadee is town that puts pork a lot further down the scum ladder.

Can you explain this

[WhyMafia]

I mean at this point it's probably just Dan and Chick.

I do feel bad for Dan; two fake-guilty gambits in a row as scum for him if I'm right.


Reminds me of how scum had already given up by the end of day one in For Us.

What was the second gambit?

[WhyMafia]

I can see myself voting Chick. As Random already said, her play is eerily similar to the Green Haired U-Pick

[WhyMafia]

It wouldn't confirm me, but it could confirm others.

This statement makes me leery because if we lynch scum #2, she can bullshit her way through giving NK's and results. At LYLO she's pretty screwed ... but eh

[WhyMafia]

2IAM what made you have that strong of an opinion on Chick slot

[WhyMafia]

But you believe it to guarantee scum that much? Do you think every person has a night action that they used last night?

[WhyMafia]

Town:
2inamillion
ActionDan
Creature
Porkens
WhyMafia
Drix
Random
SomethingSmart

Scum (2 of)
Morph
Chickadee
Arcade Pals

Let's compare lists and narrow it down a bit?

Add in Dan and maybe Creature

[WhyMafia]

idk I'm just hesitant on treating the RB like a guilty. But eh, VOTE: chick

[WhyMafia]

L-1

[WhyMafia]

UNVOTE: all

[WhyMafia]

this may sound stupid
but why can't dan/chick be on same team

[WhyMafia]

I think whatever porkens is smoking is worth a LOT of cash on the open market.

Don't you guys have similar reads if Chick flips scum ...?

[WhyMafia]

if I remember correctly. Hard lurking, lack of giving reads besides tunneling Chick, and his comments regarding Chick/Morph seemed weird

[WhyMafia]

Why can't Chickadee be scum with Dan? Interesting. Why would...hold on I'm not going to let him gender my text.

This is TPFKAP by the way. Why would Chickadee go so hard at Dan at day start? Arcade Pals started the Dan wagon I believe. We should look at that.[/color]

why couldn't they be bussing? I find it weird that Dan hyper focused on Chick from the word go

[WhyMafia]

So let me get this straight. You're proposing an MKA/Dan/Chick scum team. We lose MKA D1 and then I hard bus Dan D2?

I'm not proposing anything. I've been lost since D1 began lmao. I'm just tossing out things in case something ends up being important

[WhyMafia]

Oh wait. Did Arcade Pals get a new ability?

[WhyMafia]

I'm a motion detector that can give a BP to either myself or my target the following night if my target was visited by 3 or more people

[WhyMafia]

I did Morph N1 thinking that'd be the NK
Morph was visited by 1 person

[WhyMafia]

oh that's a good question that I should probably ask

[WhyMafia]

I'm not included. Someone visited morph

[WhyMafia]

I got one so far and I used it on Porkens N2.

Creature is confirmed scum
I CC
I watched Porkens, and nobody visited him

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Creature

[WhyMafia]

Thank God Creature claimed before I checked the thread

[WhyMafia]

what does CC mean?

Counterclaim

[WhyMafia]

L-1

[WhyMafia]

And a pagetop too!

[WhyMafia]

DRAMA ALERT
ALT SLIP

[WhyMafia]

ftr i loved my role
thanks for modding and yw for the carry

same