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Post Post #3413 (isolation #200) » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:08 am

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or D) Lynch scum without and despite you
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Post Post #3602 (isolation #201) » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:19 pm

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I targetted Smith last night.
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Post Post #3615 (isolation #202) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 3604, Cephrir wrote:That's not any of the people reg suggested? :/
Reg is still scum probably, and I'm not really interested in doing what anyone tells me to do with my actions.

I never have, and I never will.

I chose Smith because he's a question mark. He's exactly the kind of dude who potentially is the final mislynch that loses us this game. He's as we say "in the middle of the road".

Yeah I didn't exactly crumb yesterday, but no matter who I chose, if I died, you were just going to lynch what Regfan told you to fucking do, so, what did it matter?

I made the play that made the most sense, and yes, I don't exactly care if I'm lynched or not. You really probably shouldn't lynch me given I'm town, but if people are going to do this bullshit "LLD could be scum paranoia" nonsense for the next ever, there really isn't a benefit to even trying.

I mean, if you fuckers wanna give me one more day, I can just say "I'm 100% hiding behind Regfan". There really isn't a downside to this.
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Post Post #3616 (isolation #203) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 3611, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3605, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 3602, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I targetted Smith last night.
wow, no thought process, no comments about anything about the other proposed choices? nothing?
and no comments on anything that happened the whole half of yesterDay?

Is there any world where we're not lynching this slot today?
Yeah, basically this.

LLD, we're almost always lynching you today, so if you're town you have pretty limited time to leave a legacy, and if you're scum I guess just let us know if you're going to bother fighting your lynch or not?
This post makes me want to be less helpful, because you sound exactly like the kind of confident idiot who will lose this game for us.

I'm so glad I fucked checked you so that you can't be fucking mislynched for being an idiot later.
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Post Post #3617 (isolation #204) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:49 am

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So yeah, go ahead and give into your apathy instead of playing the game. I know I'm the next on the list of people to lynch and I'm sure tomorrow you'll do something equally moronic and decide Sakura Hana is somehow scum because I flipped town and her ability must be scum now.

God I couldn't care less.
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Post Post #3622 (isolation #205) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 3620, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3617, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So yeah, go ahead and give into your apathy instead of playing the game. I know I'm the next on the list of people to lynch
I'm scumreading you for not pushing anything with any conviction or energy at all.

I don't think that's unfair of me.
It is really hard to care when my real life is stressful, and posters like Drealmerz exist.

Like, you're scum reading my apathy?
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Post Post #3624 (isolation #206) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 3623, drealmerz7 wrote:what's your problem with my posts? I mean I know I'm not so good as town, but, what's your issue?

my real life is beyond stressful and pretty fucking terrible, I play mafia as some relief and TRY not to let it affect games, to me it just looks like you're using RL as an excuse to play like shit and be a jerk, and I can't help but think it's shitty scumtactics
If I told you how I felt about you and your posting, I'd probably get banned.

And not being allowed to speak in that manner and having to contain myself is really putting a damper on my ability to give a single fuck about this game.

Plus, honestly, you might just be scum. At this point, it's really hard for me to trust any of my prior reads, because I still just don't care.

All I know for sure is that Hebi and Smith are town.
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #207) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:46 am

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In post 3620, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3617, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So yeah, go ahead and give into your apathy instead of playing the game. I know I'm the next on the list of people to lynch
I'm scumreading you for not pushing anything with any conviction or energy at all.

I don't think that's unfair of me.
I actually think it is really unfair of you to expect me to ahve the same conviction, energy and focus that I would normally have when this game is already apathy inducing, my real life is legitimately the most stressful it will ever be with immigration to worry about, and I'm not allowed to be myself in this game and tell people off.

I have to bite my tongue while I get more and more frustrated and try desperately to give a fuck while not actually posting my feelings on shit.

So yeah it's a little unfair of you.
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Post Post #3629 (isolation #208) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:05 pm

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In post 3627, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3615, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I chose Smith because he's a question mark. He's exactly the kind of dude who potentially is the final mislynch that loses us this game. He's as we say "in the middle of the road".
And why was that, in your mind, the optimal play here?

Like, I get why as a hider you'd check hebi n1, if she's super town to you and not the board, then that's a decent clear (and I think it's pretty obvious scum weren't going to shoot her n1, so yeah that's fine as a check I'd say).

I don't really understand the gain from checking imperium n2, unless you were MORE confident that they were town compared to consensus (since presumably you were trying not to die at that point?), except it seems you were explicitly SRing them? IIRC you didn't crumb or anything else either, possibly I missed it?

And I understand even LESS the gain from checking me n3. In literally zero worlds are you non self aware enough to think you were anything other than a very likely d4 lynch given that the mason pair was screaming about a CC on d2, AND that the d3 lynch was very strong on you being scum (brian was also fairly widely TRd and wanted your head, and while hider!you wouldn't have known he was going to die, hider!you would reasonably have known that if he lived that was a voice likely to care a LOT about lynching you d4)

So given that fairly obvious set of circumstances, your hider choice would be... a null? I don't understand AT ALL why you, in said position, would not be thinking

1) I'm going to target someone I think is scum (not null, scum) and try to die so I save town a lynch and get back to evens
2) I'm going to target someone I think is town but EVERYONE ELSE thinks is scum (the list of 3 seems like a generically obvious set there to be sorting from), so that either I die (which puts the game back at odds), or I clear someone who had solid odds of falling into being the final mislynch, and who (if the watcher was clever) might well be a watcher target and therefore I could be confirmed

You pretty clearly had neither thought process, going instead for someone who was, in your claimed headspace, just a null. What's the point? What's the gain?
Because yesterday ended without me giving any kind of clue as to who I was targetting, and I refuse to do what people tell me to do simply because they told me to do it.

Without a crumb, I'm not shooting for scummy people.

Withuot any real town cred to ensure I live longer, I'm not aiming for town people for the purpose of living.

So last night I aimed for one thing: "Who do I think is the most likely to be the final mislynch that loses us this game?" and I identified that as you, and targeted you to either die, and feel confident you'd probably be lynched eventually, or live and be certain you will never be lynched.

Night 2 I targetted Imperium because I crumbed it and I was suspicious of them. Nacho is a good enough player that if I confirm him as town, he and I could do some serious damage. If he's scum, it could be very bad for us. I feel it was the perfect target because again he was in the middle of the road.

You don't target people on the edges, you target people in the middle for maximum value.
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #209) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:12 pm

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In post 3631, Sakura Hana wrote:Dunno I've never seen smith as "the final mislynch that would lose the game" in any game ever, plus he's one of regfan's "bet the game on" townreads.

My issue with you is that yesterday most of what you talked about was how you were using your role in some sort of plan, also about Desp, and about Hebi, but nothing else really. You never engaged with me about my Regfan townread yesterday even tho you said you'd talk about it when i mentioned it back in D2, other than to say "oh i did coz it would interfere with my plan", and now he's apparently in your scum list again?
Your role doesn't clear Regfan in any manner, so I've taken to ignoring your claims regarding it. The only reason Reg was in my townpool was because YOU SAID he was and YOU are town.
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Post Post #3634 (isolation #210) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:14 pm

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In post 3633, Sakura Hana wrote:Of course also the issue that Desp flipped town and he was very onto you, and Brian dying when he swore he would go after you today with everything.

I mean Brian NK to frame might be a thing, but that'd be unnecessary when most of us would've lynched you today anyway.
I don't think that it would be unnecessary for keeping apathy up?

Like, Bryan was three things:

1) Very obviously town
2) Very obviously the person who cared the most about this game
3) Very obviously wanting to lynch me

A kill on him is good for scum because it frames me, continues to generate the culture of apathy and kills an obvious town player they can't bring into late game anyway?
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Post Post #3635 (isolation #211) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:16 pm

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Like even if you say "they don't need to kill Brian to frame you, since you'd already be lynched", you're ignoring the point.

Because I'm a good enough player that if I ever wake up from my fucking stupor and give a fuck about this game, I suspect it could be hard to lynch me, so why wouldn't someone like Regfan shoot Brian to guarantee I go down for it?

And secondly, even if that's not a thing that crossed their minds, Parts 1 and 2 are still very true. Brian being dead is a huge detriment to us in this game.
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Post Post #3640 (isolation #212) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:24 pm

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I'm looking to be useful down the road, not today.

and yeah, I'm sure a lot of people will town read you until things go wrong, Regfan sweeps this game, and suddenly it's like, you Sakura and Regfan in lylo and they lynch you.

Think about this for a bit, will you.
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Post Post #3641 (isolation #213) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:27 pm

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In post 3639, mhsmith0 wrote:Also, if Brian was a setup kill, then that's a setup kill against his two strongest SRs (LLD and me), except before LLD's claim I don't think anyone even cared to mention my name today so far? I guess I don't really get it; what am I missing there?
You're missing that targetting someone like Maria doesn't actually add any value.

If scum want to keep leaving me alive, I can keep shooting to generate high value confirmed townies.

Which is why I suspect scum will be VERY eager to lynch me today.

You know who else would be a high value townie? Regfan.

We lynch someone like Drealmerz today, I target Regfan, and if I die and Regfan doesn't, you lynch that son of a bitch.
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Post Post #3642 (isolation #214) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:27 pm

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You feel me, bruv?
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Post Post #3645 (isolation #215) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 3643, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3641, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You're missing that targetting someone like Maria doesn't actually add any value.
Umm... why not? She's like BLATANTLY someone that people want to lynch. Do you think that she's town or scum? Because if she's town (and I feel like if you think reg is scum, then by extension you think she's town unless that looks at all like a bus to you?), green checking there is a huge +EV play that actively shakes up the game state in a useful manner.
She is negative utility for the town. There's three things.

1) If she is scum, and I die, she stops me being able to create more confirmed townies.
2) even if she IS town, and I confirm her, her reads and votes will continue to be useless, and she might actually lose us the game in lylo.
3) She was on the list of people Regfan suggested, so fuck that.
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Post Post #3646 (isolation #216) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 3644, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3641, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We lynch someone like Drealmerz today, I target Regfan, and if I die and Regfan doesn't, you lynch that son of a bitch.
On that end, I'll at least think on it (like, my off the cuff guess in a town!you world is something like reg/syr(now twie)/drealz, so it's at least something I'd consider, even if I'm still pretty decently leaning towards lynching you here)
You wanna talk +/- EV? It is directly -EV to lynch me when we still have 2+ mislynches to work with.
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Post Post #3649 (isolation #217) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:36 pm

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So then we do the play I discussed, right? I go to Regfan and we see what happens.
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Post Post #3651 (isolation #218) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:38 pm

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In post 3648, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3646, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You wanna talk +/- EV? It is directly -EV to lynch me when we still have 2+ mislynches to work with.
I'm presuming we only have 1 more mislynch to afford, barring us getting fairly lucky and getting a BP save (which probably depends in substantial part on whether scum received the BP or the ability to give out the BP - if either of those happened, obviously that's never gonna help us out), so yeah I'm kinda thinking it's basically crunch time here.

Of course, I have no real idea of what the mods like for town power, so at any rate seeing the mass claim results at least MAY be helpful in terms of sorting out what exactly we have to work with here.
ok, but, think about the inverse situation.

You lynch me today, doing the scum's dirty work for them, I flip town and tonight, you probably die for being confirmed town.

Now what happens? Do you think town wins the game from that scenario, or does Regfan steamroll everyone?
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Post Post #3663 (isolation #219) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:49 pm

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In post 3661, hebichan wrote:We have 3 mafia left most likely, 10 players alive.


If we assume that LLD is telling the truth about smith and I being town regardless of her alignment, we have a 3/8 change of hitting scum most likely.

Aka, I think we have a pretty good chance of hitting that today.

Out of all the possible scum team members I think Reg and LLD being left as scum would be the scariest, and getting either one away from scum (if they are scum) would make scum weaker.

So, unless someone brings something pretty damning, I think my lynch pool is at least heavily focused on those two.
You also lose the game if you lynch incorrectly there.

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Post Post #3667 (isolation #220) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:53 pm

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In post 3664, hebichan wrote:
In post 3663, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3661, hebichan wrote:We have 3 mafia left most likely, 10 players alive.


If we assume that LLD is telling the truth about smith and I being town regardless of her alignment, we have a 3/8 change of hitting scum most likely.

Aka, I think we have a pretty good chance of hitting that today.

Out of all the possible scum team members I think Reg and LLD being left as scum would be the scariest, and getting either one away from scum (if they are scum) would make scum weaker.

So, unless someone brings something pretty damning, I think my lynch pool is at least heavily focused on those two.
You also lose the game if you lynch incorrectly there.

The plan is to lynch scum from the remaining pool and have me target Regfan with my ability tonight. That will solve both of us, one way or another.
Except if you're lying about your role, it won't and you can say "Oh hey, Reg was town, I was wrong."
and if we're both alive tomorrow, we have this conversation.

But right now it makes no sense to do what you're suggesting.
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Post Post #3673 (isolation #221) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:58 pm

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In post 3672, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3669, hebichan wrote:
In post 3668, Sakura Hana wrote:Wait if smith is town does that mean we're gonna lose the game?
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Smith is town, LLD is lying regardless of alignment.
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Post Post #3688 (isolation #222) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:12 pm

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In post 3687, Sakura Hana wrote:Yeah, but isnt LLD's role based off dream receptiveness?
Yeah my role says I can only target dream receptive people.

I learned later that EVERYONE is dream receptive, apparently, which makes me think there are roles that can probably turn themselves non-dream receptive.
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #223) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:14 pm

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I honestly don't know?
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Post Post #3693 (isolation #224) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:15 pm

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well the mods told me that the base townie role PM has the "dream sensitive" text in it, so I assumed?
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Post Post #3697 (isolation #225) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:19 pm

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In post 3696, Sakura Hana wrote:However we were wondering whether scum are dream receptive to begin with.... if they arent, then LLD's role is pretty much useless as she wont suicide anywhere. Or even NU since she can end up earning a 2x kill.
That would be concerning... and a possibility I didn't even consider.

It would also prevent me from creating confirmed townies....
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Post Post #3704 (isolation #226) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:25 pm

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This sounds exactly like something Vi would do in a game (as per the ability to turn dream receptiveness on and off for certain roles, and having rewards and punishments on both sides)
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Post Post #3715 (isolation #227) » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:40 pm

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In post 3709, Sakura Hana wrote:So if you guys are willing to risk it i have an idea, i can give the next dream to regfan since i can probably target him again now, if he gets the dream effect then he was dream receptive and LLD's role can be useful.
There's some issues with this, we dont know what the dreams will do, we wont even know if the dream can be faked in case it vanishes, we wont know if scum will turn it into another nightmare with global effect, etc. And if both Reg and LLD are town the risk of Reg just being shot is tremendous.
But it's a high risk high reward play, and i rather check with you guys first before we decide.
See how powerful the role is before you give a truly outrageous thing to Reg, but yes?
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Post Post #3804 (isolation #228) » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:06 pm

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bit of a busy day today and yesterday, my bad.
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Post Post #3833 (isolation #229) » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:02 pm

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People who are on Maria. Can you explain why Maria and why not Drealmerz?
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Post Post #3847 (isolation #230) » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:52 pm

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Is everyone but Smith claimed? did smith claim?
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Post Post #3894 (isolation #231) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:09 am

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Am I not voting Dreal right now?

I can't remember.

Vote: Dreal
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Post Post #3915 (isolation #232) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 pm

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Drealmerz is just legitimately scum. He's been coasting on how the day 1 wagons went forever now, he's offered nothing in terms of hard stances, except taking a hard stance on me consistently. He's using me as a tunnel target to fake having any kind of opinion, and is generally hiding behind worse looking players like Maria and Nosferatu and he's been doing this for days.

I am begging you, please lynch him. Why hasn't he posted at all? The only real posts he's made this day have been to come in when someone mentions him, and effecitvely BeetleJuice himself.

That isn't town play. He doesn't display town motivations.
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Post Post #3926 (isolation #233) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:26 pm

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yeah no lynching today makes no sense, lol
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Post Post #3928 (isolation #234) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:56 pm

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If we no lynch now, we lose a mislynch if Regfan is scum, by virtue of my death and the nightkill. Same goes if Regfan is town and shot. It is just actively horrible.
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Post Post #3944 (isolation #235) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:57 pm

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Maria, we're not no lynching today. Come lynch Dreal with me, he's doing that thing where he only comes in to defend himself and only when he's in danger.
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Post Post #3949 (isolation #236) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:11 pm

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In post 3947, drealmerz7 wrote:defend myself from what, exactly?

'derrderr you're scum!'

LLD, you said 'why am I not voting dreal?' or whatever, because you were checking the wind for when you thought the best time to try and get my wagon some momentum would be

why did you throw a hissy fit when I questioned you start of Day
oh wait, the same reason you threw a hissy fit at the start of the game with I FoSed you
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In post 3946, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Dreal
fine so be it I won't feel bad for this I tried to hammer it anyway
"I tried to scummy scumhammer this before so that is a good reason to vote it again, ya!"
These reactions aren't town.

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Post Post #3957 (isolation #237) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:22 pm

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In post 3956, MariaR wrote:Good try trying to play that off as L-1 though!
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Post Post #3958 (isolation #238) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:23 pm

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Is this a stupid gambit? we don't have time for stupid gambits.

I count Myself, Hebi, Cephrir, you and TWIE.

We need 6 today right?
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Post Post #3961 (isolation #239) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:30 pm

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In post 3960, hebichan wrote:You're at l-1, shuld you really be going on about deadline mechanics?
He's scum, he's gotta try and act natural and post about something.
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Post Post #3965 (isolation #240) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:34 pm

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In post 3962, drealmerz7 wrote:what would you like of me? to repeat the same shit I've said before?
I mean, it's all of you that are on me that should be telling why you think I'm scum
...I feel like ppl forget how to play mafia sometimes, it is frustrating
You don't get to say this when you're said nothing all day, let alone all game, that resembles any kind of content. You pick a couple of names (Myself, Maria) and you tunnel them just hard enough to get through the day, but not hard enough to get them lynched. You never need to take any other positions, you don't interact, show read progression or any kind of town motivation.

You are textbook lurking scum, and you're being lynched for it.
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Post Post #3968 (isolation #241) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:39 pm

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In post 3966, drealmerz7 wrote:no, I've done plenty of things through the game, I just don't go on and on and on and on about them
my reads have shifted and changed a bit, but just because a couple of my reads haven't shifted much all game and
I keep seeing reasons to think you+maria are scum doesn't make scum suddenly

quit being terrible, please
The bold and the italics don't match each other. Like, this is seriously cognitive dissonance.

He is just auto pilot calling me scum, like he has all game, but if that's the case and he genuinely believes I'm scum, why is he saying I'm being terrible? Surely it would be "shut up, scumfuck" right? This doesn't parse as someone who is town speaking to one of their scumreads, it parses as someone who is scum speaking to someone they know is town and trying to discredit them so they aren't lynched.
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Post Post #3972 (isolation #242) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:45 pm

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In post 3971, drealmerz7 wrote:all you can do is talk shit at me who has been scumreading you for reasons all game, that is terrible scum
for reasons, and yet, you don't outline them, you've never outlined them. The whole fucking debate we had on day 1 was that you didn't provide any kind of evidence, infact, you were faking your fucking reads.

Like I'm claiming you're doing right now.

Shocker, it's because YOU ARE.

Someone come hammer this person, please.
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Post Post #3976 (isolation #243) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:53 pm

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In post 3974, mhsmith0 wrote:I don't really have time for this tonight, sorry.

Can someone clarify how drealz here looks like scum instead of town raging at a mislynch he feels is stupid, because at the very least that seems reasonably consistent with that behavior structure? I pinky promise to be back before the 24 hour period from last major vc, will look more carefully by then.
Rage isn't town.

You are speaking to the Queen of Rage, the Cat in a Rage even.

Rage isn't town, it's not scum, it's just a state of mind and a state that can be faked.

Instead of looking at that behaviour pattern that is a very common one and can be easily faked, or worse, real anger at being close to a lynch for what Drealmerz feels are "bad reasons" turned into this behaviour pattern trying to mimic it and get out of a lynch.

Scum caught for the wrong reasons exists for a reason.

Instead, look at his motivations and actions in terms of what they accomplish. He's not presenting a town mindset at all.
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Post Post #4005 (isolation #244) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:35 am

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Post Post #4006 (isolation #245) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:37 am

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In post 4000, Cephrir wrote:so at this point either twie/dreal/serra are all scum and we suck ass at lynches and should hang our heads in shame, or lld is scum (which is obviously the case), or we're wrong about sakura, or there are only 2 of them left
Or, our discussion from the last day regarding the level of power in this game and how mechanics involving dream receptiveness works, exists.

Which at this point I am reasonably certain about.
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Post Post #4007 (isolation #246) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:42 am

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Cause fucking anyone who has been reading this game in any capacity should realize that I'm reaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllly not scum.
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Post Post #4009 (isolation #247) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:07 am

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In post 4008, Cephrir wrote:TIL I haven't been reading this game in any capacity
I mean you were at one point when you were reading my actions and words as opposed to trusting how night actions work in a Cabd game.
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Post Post #4011 (isolation #248) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:21 am

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In post 4010, Cephrir wrote:I don't even know what you're talking about.
There is the potential that people in this game are either dream non-sensitive or can make themselves dream non-sensitive.
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Post Post #4013 (isolation #249) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:10 am

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In post 4012, Cephrir wrote:Sure, I mean, maybe.

I guess I'm not entirely sure why it matters.
My role only hides behind people who are dream sensitive. I've been VERY CLEAR about this from the get go.

Which means if people can make themselves dream non-sensitive, I would receive a false positive. You understand?
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Post Post #4016 (isolation #250) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:02 pm

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In post 4015, Cephrir wrote:This game seems pretty unfair with 4 scum even if you're town, then.
It is very possible we only have two scum remaining, but I'd like to play as if we have 3. We certainly have no MORE than 3 left.
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Post Post #4018 (isolation #251) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 pm

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In post 4017, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 4016, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:but I'd like to play as if we have 3.
Umm...
If we have 3...
there's 5 town alive...
with 6 votes to lynch....
on MyLo....
Oh.

I missed that...
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Post Post #4019 (isolation #252) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:18 pm

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So we have two scum left.
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Post Post #4021 (isolation #253) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 4020, Cephrir wrote:Having the option to nolynch would make that not an auto loss yeah?
Even if we assume it is 3 scum, no lynching today means we would go to 4:3 tomorrow after a scum kill tonight, baring some kind of dream shenanigans?

So as long as you trust Sakura it shouldn't ever end the game on us.
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Post Post #4031 (isolation #254) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 4029, Cephrir wrote:It's possible, but not really worth discussing pre-LLD lynch.
Lynching me loses us the game so let's not. :/
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Post Post #4048 (isolation #255) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:21 pm

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Sakura are you ok
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Post Post #4063 (isolation #256) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:45 am

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I really do want to lynch drealmerz today tbh. I'm realizing that if we don't do this today, one person might just speed vote me tomorrow and a 3 man team could make me v. sad.

Even if it isn't theoretically possible for us to lynch scum today, I don't think scum will stick out their necks for drealmerz.

Let's do this.
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Post Post #4066 (isolation #257) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:54 am

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In my mind there are two worlds.

The world where my results are TRUE and the world where my results are FALSE POSITIVES due to dream sensitivity interactions. In this post, I will discuss both worlds.

In the world where my results are true, the end result is very simple. Hebi and Regfan are conf. town. Sakura is basically town by ability. Leaving 4 options, Ceph/Serra/TWIE/Drealmerz.

Of those 4, Serra is the most town, based on Cephrir's ability being more useful to scum than town, Drealmerz being a scummy fuck and TWIE being a lurk fuck.

So Drealmerz/Cephrir/TWIE, probably.

In the FALSE POSITIVE world, Hebi and Regfan aren't cleared, but I'm STILL certain Hebi is town. Sakura and Serra still town, leaves us with:

Regfan/Drealmerz/TWIE/Cephrir.

Of THESE 4, the most town is Cephrir, based on how he tried to use his power, how he claimed it, and general voting patterns from memory.

In EITHER WORLD, only two people show up consistently. Drealmerz and TWIE. Of the two, TWIE is most likely to be the one I'm wrong on, given lurking is harder to read, and I could be fooled. I'm not fooled by Drealmerz.

Hence, Drealmerz lynch today satisfies both worlds, and will flip scum every time.
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Post Post #4080 (isolation #258) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 4078, Cephrir wrote:win

i mean sure but that doesn't mean i have to bet the game on it right now. i still want lld first
There is no more fucking first. If you are town and you fucking lynch me because you're apathetic and checked out of the game you are throwing this game the fuck away.

You don't get to say "oh but Maria first" or "Oh but Nos first" anymore.

Drealmerz has been scum for days, why do you keep saying "oh he's scum" and then back down whenever he gets closer to being lynched?
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Post Post #4082 (isolation #259) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:47 am

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In post 4081, Cephrir wrote:Because I'm his scumbuddy. Eyeroll.

I'm lynching you for being scum. It's what I'm the most sure about. I'm not sure that dreal isn't the last mislynch you need.

I didn't even want to lynch nos especially so don't come at me with that. But any other firsts I've had have been first before you, not first before anyone else.
and why exactly am I scum, Cephrir?

Like, fucking, just think about this for a moment. None of the actions, claims or things I've done make sense for me as scum. Why bother claiming to save Hebi? Unless you think she's scum with me too? Like, it feels like you're just coasting on the "plan" that people put forward from previous days, and that "plan" is losing us the game.

And then you turn around and say we probably don't win this game, but you still want to lynch me. It sounds a lot like you know lynching me will lose us this game but you don't give a fuck.
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Post Post #4085 (isolation #260) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:56 am

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In post 4083, Cephrir wrote:Because you had no town motivation for 4 days.

She could be scum with you; I haven't completely ruled that out. I suppose it's true that that appears risky otherwise and Im not gonna vote tomorrow without having a sit down and thinking about it first. I made that mistake in ep's game.

I just don't have much confidence in our ability to get it right 3 times in a row.
No town motivation? Don't mistake having NO motivation for having no TOWN motivation. I was demoralized, and having to fight with people, and having to restrain my fucking anger and frustration and my real life was being a shitter.

Cephrir, like... this has been your consistent claim all game, and every time you bring it up, I am forced to remind you that I am trying not to yell, rage or otherwise express my emotions in a manner I have done in the past and it fucking sucks.

Your claims I have no town motivation because I'm not "engaged" with the game are clearly answered by prior circumstance and current effort trying to get people talking and engaging wiht me. So then, if this is the case, I need more from you.
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #261) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:57 am

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In post 4084, Cephrir wrote:I also didn't buy your reasoning for hiding with smith, and frankly I expected you to get it right last night and die. Have some BoP.
You're not the only one who expected me to be fucking dead by now.

I've targeted people I believe are sensible, and I've been clear about the whys, and you know me well enough I don't target normally or by expectation.

The fact is, it is VERY possible my role is strict negative utility with how dream sensitivity works.
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Post Post #4088 (isolation #262) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:59 am

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In post 4086, Cephrir wrote:Also I think you'll find my borderline giving up attitude is pretty consistent in xylo with multiple scum alive. I just stop trusting anyone or myself when I get into this position.
Alright but, weren't we in this position you and I once before in a recentish game? And wasn't the circumstance different?

Like, you need to look at my motivations right now. Do I think you could be scum? Possibly, but I need to find that out because we're going to need EVERY TOWNIE on board tomorrow.

So you blowing me off like this does nothing but guarantee that if we are both town, which is more than possible, boarding on probable, we lose this game.
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #263) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:13 pm

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Yeah well I'm not ok with losing, so maybe fucking check that attitude and understand this game is a fucking weird game that potentially offered a "Loved" day in MyLo. '

So, like, let's try and fucking win.
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Post Post #4115 (isolation #264) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:11 pm

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Post Post #4216 (isolation #265) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:48 am

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Still at a wedding but Math jesus just read, this isn't the case. There's a fucking complication regarding dream sensitivity.

Also I've already claimed my flavour go find it in my ISO
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Post Post #4217 (isolation #266) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:48 am

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In post 4215, MathBlade wrote:There is also the matter of why LLD was not shot after her claim despite the wifom scum could use afterwards.

Based on that AND the completely Town wagon on hebichan around the time of LLDs claim and some moderator posts I do not see a way LLD is not scum here with hebichan.
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Post Post #4218 (isolation #267) » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:48 am

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god I can't do this at wedding. gonna sotp
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Post Post #4307 (isolation #268) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:32 pm

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It's not my favourite book, but it is one of Cabd's.

Also, hi I'm home from wedding it;s stupid stressful and I'm beat to fuck hi mathblade your logic is entering titus levels of bad please slow your roll for now until I get time for thisssssssssssssss
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Post Post #4312 (isolation #269) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:37 pm

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In post 4309, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4307, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's not my favourite book, but it is one of Cabd's.

Also, hi I'm home from wedding it;s stupid stressful and I'm beat to fuck hi mathblade your logic is entering titus levels of bad please slow your roll for now until I get time for thisssssssssssssss

One question for you:

1) Why did you not policy yourself day four?

---

That is the only question I have ATM for you right now.

Meanwhile I will keep thinking with others to see what I can do while I still have awake brain cells.
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And I did that night 4.... and I lived. And scum didn't kill regfan.

Which means I made an error. They value me as a mislynch more than they value any result I could give (which is effectively potentially zero, hider godfathers/non dream sensitives can exist)

but yes I didn't policy lynch myself because I wanted Drealmerz dead because he's scum and had a plan regarding Regfan
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Post Post #4318 (isolation #270) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:44 pm

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In post 4315, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4312, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4309, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4307, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:It's not my favourite book, but it is one of Cabd's.

Also, hi I'm home from wedding it;s stupid stressful and I'm beat to fuck hi mathblade your logic is entering titus levels of bad please slow your roll for now until I get time for thisssssssssssssss

One question for you:

1) Why did you not policy yourself day four?

---

That is the only question I have ATM for you right now.

Meanwhile I will keep thinking with others to see what I can do while I still have awake brain cells.
Because I had a better idea. People weren't going to listen to me on Regfan, so I thought "hey, what if I publically claimed to visit Regfan and forced scum's hand!"

And I did that night 4.... and I lived. And scum didn't kill regfan.

Which means I made an error. They value me as a mislynch more than they value any result I could give (which is effectively potentially zero, hider godfathers/non dream sensitives can exist)

but yes I didn't policy lynch myself because I wanted Drealmerz dead because he's scum and had a plan regarding Regfan
What plan is more important than multiple confirmed Town?
My death doesn't confirm any of the people I hid behind as town, Mathblade. It's become increasingly obvious that scum can potentialy remove themselves from the people I can target successfuly, and thus I don't die to them.
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Post Post #4325 (isolation #271) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:54 pm

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In post 4322, MathBlade wrote:@LLD furthermore if you are not able to be targeted by dreams wouldn't you want obvTown me to know that?
When I hide, I become undream targetable. That's how I know.
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Post Post #4328 (isolation #272) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:55 pm

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I already said all this, Math, if you read anything.
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Post Post #4457 (isolation #273) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:33 am

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Boy the people on my wagon are not surprising and also scare me.

Mathblade, please look at how yesterday went, when we came close to lynching Drealmerz, but people hopped onto Maria in what felt like a colluded effort to save him.

Its the same people who are on this wagon, minus TWIE.

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Post Post #4477 (isolation #274) » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:35 am

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Post Post #4577 (isolation #275) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:07 am

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vote: no lynch


siiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post Post #4580 (isolation #276) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:24 am

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In post 4578, drealmerz7 wrote:don't fucking sigh you did absolutely dick to try to get a lynch or move the gamestate

your acting skills are horrible
I was at my fucking wedding vacation without any internet for basically the last week, and I only got back like yesterday fuck you I announced the V/LA and tried to get shit done ever when I was there.

While you fucking scumlurked the entire day, PROD DODGED ONCE, and now are pulling this shit on me?

Fucking selective scum memory, much?
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Post Post #4581 (isolation #277) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:25 am

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In post 4579, Cephrir wrote:i agree lld, its unfortunate that you get a free win for such a dumb reason
Also, I think your vote on me after adamantly telling everyone that "lynching today is a mistake" is fucking hilarious and you telling me this after that flop is just rich.
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Post Post #4582 (isolation #278) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:27 am

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Like pretty confidently I can say Cephrir is scum at this point. Was having a hard time believing it because his play was town, but his role wasn't. Now his play is contradictory and opportunistic and desperate, so it's showing.

Third one depends on the truth behind the
killing game mystery
Hider Mechanic mystery. Could be Regfan, could be TWIE. Almost never Serrapaladin, just too fucking town, but SO fucking wrong.
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Post Post #4593 (isolation #279) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:48 am

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In post 4584, MathBlade wrote:@LLD you saw the 100% do not hide right?
oh hell yeah, I'm not risking the game on that. There's literally no reason for me to hide.
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Post Post #4594 (isolation #280) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:48 am

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In post 4588, MathBlade wrote:@LLD Cephrir TWIE Drealmerz?
and yes, this is very possible, assuming my hide power actually works.
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Post Post #4596 (isolation #281) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:53 am

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In post 4595, Cephrir wrote:didn't we JUST come from you assuming it didn't

i guess anyone can say anything now though because math sucks :3
The fact is, Cephrir, that it's very likely Drealmerz and you are scum REGARDLESS of my power.

So I figure once I lynch Drealmerz, and he flips scum, scum will have no choice but to shoot me in the FUCKING FACE because I'll be conf. town.

So I don't actually give a hoot about which world is true. I know where the scum is and can leave the rest.
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Post Post #4597 (isolation #282) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:54 am

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Cause I'm done trying to figure it out.
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Post Post #4605 (isolation #283) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:36 am

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also I've posted plenty of reasons, it's just that Drealmer likes to yell that I haven't posted any reasons because it's his only defense as far as I can tell.
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Post Post #4618 (isolation #284) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:21 am

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Same.
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Post Post #4621 (isolation #285) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:31 am

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In post 4620, drealmerz7 wrote:VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

die, scum, die
Yeah, insta voting in Lylo is a great fucking idea. Totally proves you're town.
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Post Post #4623 (isolation #286) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:36 am

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... what
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Post Post #4625 (isolation #287) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:02 am

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What..... what do we do?
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #288) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:02 am

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Are we supposed to like, make sure the mods are online, test a vote and then unvote once they get a vc up?
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Post Post #4631 (isolation #289) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:42 am

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HELP
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Post Post #4633 (isolation #290) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:47 am

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Post Post #4635 (isolation #291) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:50 am

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Post Post #4637 (isolation #292) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:55 am

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Post Post #4651 (isolation #293) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:52 pm

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Math, the shenanigans with the vote shit is from the dream vote last night.

Do you understand how this game works? How the dreams work?
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Post Post #4673 (isolation #294) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:50 pm

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nothing has changed from yesterday for me, I want Drealmerz or I want Cephrir I think they both have to be scum in basically any world. I just want to take some time and really think on this before I vote, I don't want to be the townie that loses us the game.
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Post Post #4675 (isolation #295) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:52 pm

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Regfan and TWIE are not scum together Hebi.

It's Drealmerz/Cephrir/TWIE or Drealmerz/Cephrir/Reg
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Post Post #4677 (isolation #296) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 4676, hebichan wrote:
In post 4670, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4668, hebichan wrote:
In post 4667, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4666, drealmerz7 wrote:didn't change my mind, I wanted LLD yesterday too
I am questioning the change in order not the fact you said you had a scumread.

Why did you not push hebi today?
Because we're probably in lylo and he doesn't scumread me over LLD.

I'm not sure what's hard to get here.
What do you make of Drealmerz voting LLD?
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LLD has claimed hider with nothing to back it up. Drealmz has wanted to have proof for awhile, LLD has none to give, despite hiding most nights.

Of course, none of the powers this game have been provable, which is why I'm still having trouble.

Speaking of which, who did you target Mathblade?
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO PROVE I'M A HIDER?
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Post Post #4679 (isolation #297) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:55 pm

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you make that statement like I'm withholding somehting and Drealmerz has been this goodguy asking me for it, but in reality Drealmerz keeps asking for shit that I have either ALREADY GIVEN HIM, or IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE

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Post Post #4682 (isolation #298) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:56 pm

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Well then fucking say that then!
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Post Post #4684 (isolation #299) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:59 pm

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it felt implied and your statement was fucking weird.
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Post Post #4686 (isolation #300) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:00 pm

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I don't think Drealmerz voting was Null btw.

Think about it, what would scum do if the dream didn't show up and they were scared that one vote would be the lynch today?

They'd INSTANTLY vote, wouldn't they? and use their scummiest member (drealmerz) to do it, right?
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Post Post #4687 (isolation #301) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 4685, hebichan wrote:
In post 4684, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:it felt implied and your statement was fucking weird.

I think you're just getting paranoid I'm going to side with drealmz over you.
Well considering it would lose us the game, yeha I think that's a reasonable fear.
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #302) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 4686, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't think Drealmerz voting was Null btw.

Think about it, what would scum do if the dream didn't show up and they were scared that one vote would be the lynch today?

They'd INSTANTLY vote, wouldn't they? and use their scummiest member (drealmerz) to do it, right?
Like, his instant vote read as a "I need to vote before anyone else does and make sure I abuse this dream"
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Post Post #4693 (isolation #303) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:07 pm

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In post 4691, hebichan wrote:
In post 4689, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4686, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't think Drealmerz voting was Null btw.

Think about it, what would scum do if the dream didn't show up and they were scared that one vote would be the lynch today?

They'd INSTANTLY vote, wouldn't they? and use their scummiest member (drealmerz) to do it, right?
Like, his instant vote read as a "I need to vote before anyone else does and make sure I abuse this dream"

Why would they assume thats what the dream did though?

That seems like a leap.
Does it? The dream says you struggle to get back to sleep or some nonsense, what if that means the threshold for lynch is reduced so that we fall asleep faster? The dreams have been cryptic before, it's a reasonable concern when the dream pops up and isn't explained.
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Post Post #4695 (isolation #304) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:07 pm

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I think if you are scum, you do that in a heart beat.
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Post Post #4705 (isolation #305) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:16 pm

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In post 4699, Cephrir wrote:It seems to me that the dream was supposed to be a one-shot power but got overridden and I'm assuming that's because of another scum ability.
In post 4614, morph the cat wrote:
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The results of this dream will become apparent Tomorrow.


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Post Post #4708 (isolation #306) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:17 pm

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In post 4697, hebichan wrote:Which, actually. Would also make scum desperate.
How so? If they lynch town, and they don't get a kill, they can just no lynch the next day and kill again. And even if powers somehow were to help, unless it is a killing power.... etc
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Post Post #4714 (isolation #307) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:21 pm

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In post 4712, drealmerz7 wrote:1 vote to lynch? seriously? more crap thoughts + bad narrative from LLD

in what world where there are likely 3 scum alive are scum even sweating it that much?

ugh, the lack of logic really hurts my brain

MB, didn't revote LLD because, *shrug*, people get pissy, I'm rather apathetic, the reset of the Day surprised me, *shrug*

here, want proof that LLD is scum? VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
wow this is some panic+dismissal shit.

I don't know how much more obvious this can get...
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Post Post #4721 (isolation #308) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:24 pm

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In post 4718, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4712, drealmerz7 wrote:here, want proof that LLD is scum? VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
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Post Post #4727 (isolation #309) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:28 pm

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In post 4725, hebichan wrote:
In post 4724, drealmerz7 wrote:hebi, LLD pocketed you from the beginning
Well see, the lingering paranoia of that is why I haven't immediately voted you, yes.
A reminder of how PYP played out. I'm not saying I would kill you every time, but generally this is why I kill you as scum eventually, because your paranoia is always going to eat away at you.
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Post Post #4736 (isolation #310) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:31 pm

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In post 4733, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 4727, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: A reminder of how PYP played out. I'm not saying I would kill you every time, but generally this is why I kill you as scum eventually, because your paranoia is always going to eat away at you.
this is a scumpost because 'I'M GOING TO ATTACK YOUR FEAR AND MAKE YOU QUESTION' - it's an attempt at demoralizing
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Post Post #4757 (isolation #311) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:58 pm

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Post Post #4781 (isolation #312) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:07 pm

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I'm here, what do you want Math?
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Post Post #4783 (isolation #313) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:19 pm

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You don't vote until you've talked with everyone, because the goal of today is not to be an egotist and use your vote as pressure, but rather to ensure that all the town are on a wagon together. We cannot afford to call a townie "Stupid" and leave them off it, because we will lose.

So voting early, no matter how certain, is horrific. You think my vote wouldn't be on him right now if it wasn't LYLO?

Baring that, if a situation arises where votes do get put down, then you will either see the scum try and coordinate a quick hammer (admittedly harder with 3 people) or you will find out that the people who are voting in cross are not town together.

You should then lynch in that pool, because it's at worst 50% to hit scum.

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Post Post #4785 (isolation #314) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:26 pm

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In post 4784, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4783, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You don't vote until you've talked with everyone, because the goal of today is not to be an egotist and use your vote as pressure, but rather to ensure that all the town are on a wagon together. We cannot afford to call a townie "Stupid" and leave them off it, because we will lose.

So voting early, no matter how certain, is horrific. You think my vote wouldn't be on him right now if it wasn't LYLO?

Baring that, if a situation arises where votes do get put down, then you will either see the scum try and coordinate a quick hammer (admittedly harder with 3 people) or you will find out that the people who are voting in cross are not town together.

You should then lynch in that pool, because it's at worst 50% to hit scum.

Does that sum it up for you?
Almost.

Describe cross voting.
See the bolded?

If one person votes another, one of two things happen

Either scum organize a quick hammer (which is harder at 3 people, you have to expect the scum are prepared).

or

One or both of the players involved are scum, and you won't see a quick lynch.

As I explained above, in this situation you always lynch in the duo, because at MINIMUM you have a 50% chance of hititng scum and it's easier to unite a town around a dichotomy than having multiple egos crying for different lynches.
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Post Post #4787 (isolation #315) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:36 pm

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In post 4786, MathBlade wrote:Correct.

And if we are lynching in Drealmerz and you

Then why wasn't your vote on Drealmerz?

In your eyes he would be conf scum?
Of course he is. Ask yourself what I said earlier. My interest is in talking to all of the townies and get them on the same page. My vote doesn't matter right now.

More importantly, look who hasn't really been around. Regfan and TWIE. One of them is scum, one of them is town. I need to figure out which one it is.

Right now, Drealmerz is scum, he's always been scum, but he's a distraction. I need to find the townies.

It's Drealmerz/Cephrir/???

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Post Post #4790 (isolation #316) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:40 pm

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In post 4788, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4787, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4786, MathBlade wrote:Correct.

And if we are lynching in Drealmerz and you

Then why wasn't your vote on Drealmerz?

In your eyes he would be conf scum?
Of course he is. Ask yourself what I said earlier. My interest is in talking to all of the townies and get them on the same page. My vote doesn't matter right now.

More importantly, look who hasn't really been around. Regfan and TWIE. One of them is scum, one of them is town. I need to figure out which one it is.

Right now, Drealmerz is scum, he's always been scum, but he's a distraction. I need to find the townies.

It's Drealmerz/Cephrir/???

Got it?
And you aren't voting Drealmerz because?
You're fucking stupid.

I just explained it to you.

Why are you so fucking stupid, are hyou being deliberately dense? Are you trying to make me mad? is that your goal? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? OH LLD IS SO TOWN WHEN SHE'S ANGRY, LET'S MAKE HER ANGRY?
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Post Post #4794 (isolation #317) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:42 pm

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Drealmerz is a fucking distraction, I want to spend my time finding the 4th Townie.

It's you, it's Hebi, it's me and there's one more.

Why would I vote Drealmerz, when I can do that at any time, instead of just focusing on figuring out which of TWIE and Reg is scum?!?!!
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Post Post #4796 (isolation #318) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 4793, Regfan wrote:@LLD - The point that Math is getting at is that from your point of view if Dreamlz is town the games over if he's not going to unvote you and most scum teams would have had a chance to blitz you at this point (Think TWIE is the only person that hasn't been online since) so therefore he's either confirmed scum to you or the world where you're both town is a world we are never winning.
And I acknowledged this, and I've never thought he was town.

I'm saying that my vote is irrelevant. I don't want to vote him and have him beetlejuice in here and create 10 pages of worthless fucking noise.

And I especially am not going to do it because fucking Math asked me to, of all fucking people.
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Post Post #4798 (isolation #319) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 4795, drealmerz7 wrote:regfan you're overthinking it, AND, trying to figure me out based on how I've played in previous games is a BAD idea (which I say in so many games)

omg, LLD, you are so fake

CAN'T PPL TELL THE FAKE?!?!?!

YOU SEE THIS BEETLEJUICE SHIT?

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT HOW SCUMMY DREALMERZ IS.

HE SHOWS UP AND MAKES NOISE.

THIS IS ON YOU MATH. LET ME FUCKING TRY AND READ TWIE AND REGFAN SO I CAN FUCKING WIN THIS GAME FOR YOU GOT IT?
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Post Post #4802 (isolation #320) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:46 pm

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MATHBLADE HOLY SHIT IT IS REALLY SIMPLE.

CEPHRIR AND DREALMERZ ARE SCUM. THAT'S 2.

IF YOU AGREE THAT HEBI IS ONLY SCUM WHEN I'M SCUM, THEN THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE WITH 2 SCUM ALREADY, SO THERE'S ANOTHER TOWNIE.

SO ASSUMING I'M TOWN, FROM MY PERSPECITVE, THERE'S ONLY TWO PEOPLE TO LOOK AT. REG AND TWIE
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Post Post #4807 (isolation #321) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:48 pm

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In post 4800, Regfan wrote:
In post 4794, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Drealmerz is a fucking distraction, I want to spend my time finding the 4th Townie.

It's you, it's Hebi, it's me and there's one more.

Why would I vote Drealmerz, when I can do that at any time, instead of just focusing on figuring out which of TWIE and Reg is scum?!?!!
I don't understand how voting Dreamlz stops you from attempting to try and get a read on TWIE? Run me through how they're related please.

Edit: Eh, I don't actually hate that explanation. Can you go over your Ceph!Scum and Hebichan!Town reads since you seem very confident in those and "LYLO is a time to consider all options" in your own words, so what have you looked at with either of those today and reconfirmed those reads through?
I've never been more confident of a town read in my life than I am of Hebi being town. especially since my hide on her was night 1, before the scum knew a hider existed, so the likely hood of the "non dream receptive false positive" is super minimized with her.

but even without that she's town. that's never changing.

Cephrir is something I need to consider as we go, but the fact is, I can't see you and TWIE being scum together, so if I eliminate MAth from the pool because she's town, drealmerz is scum and hebi is town... only one of you can be scum which PoE'd Cephrir to the last slot?
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Post Post #4809 (isolation #322) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:49 pm

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In post 4804, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4794, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Drealmerz is a fucking distraction, I want to spend my time finding the 4th Townie.

It's you, it's Hebi, it's me and there's one more.

Why would I vote Drealmerz, when I can do that at any time, instead of just focusing on figuring out which of TWIE and Reg is scum?!?!!
Look here is the situation.

One of you will be lynched today. We need a scum lynch today. We do not need the entire team. Yes we should be hunting but at the end of the day
both you and Drealmerz yelling does nothing to help.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID YOU MORORN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post Post #4812 (isolation #323) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:51 pm

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In post 4810, Regfan wrote:You both calling each other "Fake as fuck" and "Beetlejuicing all over the thread" is just going to pad the pages here and get us nowhere, if you're both town we've already lost so there's little reason for the two of you to actually interact with each other and I'll let you know straight up I'm not letting AtE type shit impact my vote today.

Understand that's what your initial intention was LLD so focus on "getting reads".
If Mathblade will fucking let me. Let me be clear, I'm not sure you're town, buddy.

So I need to reign in Mathblade and Hebi now. Because, unlike Mathblade, I believe we DO NEEED EVERY TOWNIE TODYA
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Post Post #4814 (isolation #324) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:52 pm

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Post Post #4822 (isolation #325) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:58 pm

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In post 4818, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4812, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4810, Regfan wrote:You both calling each other "Fake as fuck" and "Beetlejuicing all over the thread" is just going to pad the pages here and get us nowhere, if you're both town we've already lost so there's little reason for the two of you to actually interact with each other and I'll let you know straight up I'm not letting AtE type shit impact my vote today.

Understand that's what your initial intention was LLD so focus on "getting reads".
If Mathblade will fucking let me. Let me be clear, I'm not sure you're town, buddy.

So I need to reign in Mathblade and Hebi now. Because, unlike Mathblade, I believe we DO NEEED EVERY TOWNIE TODYA
Oh I believe we need a scum lynch. With the possibilities narrowed I do not think I have to have the game solved. What I do need to do is see the politics though.
Look, this game is going to come down to "can you read me?"

and you get two shots at it! you can read my posts and see if I'm town or not, but if you're torn on those and don't know, well, it's simple really.

You can just read Drealmerz posts and if he is scum, then guess what, I'm fucking town.

This shouldn't hard Mathblade, all you have to do is realize that I'm fucking right about the game state and make the right fuckign call.

I could same the same to Hebi, but honestly, Hebi's off in lala land right now believing that anyone but myself or Drealmerz is being lynched today.
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Post Post #4824 (isolation #326) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:59 pm

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In post 4820, Regfan wrote:
In post 4806, hebichan wrote:aalso, reg, weren't you "contemplating" this same scenario for like three days now? are you done contemplating yet?.
Eh, I still don't feel 100% that I have the whole team locked down, I'm pretty confident in a few things;

- Math being town, I really don't like Ceph/Dreamlz scum reads/statements of contemplating her being mafia but weirdly find Cephs backflip on that stance harder to believe and follow (re; his "I can't remember good reasons for it other than the role) when I think there's literally dozens of strong reasons why they're town here.

- LLD being scum making you almost a certainty to be scum and the same vice versa, I think you two are super super likely together here.The one world where you're not scum is a Ceph/Dreamlz/TWIE one which feels wrong but it's something that I'm going to be taking a look at re; their interactions today.

Pretty much the worlds I'm considering are;
LLD/Hebi + 1 of Dreamlz/TWIE/Ceph in descending likelihood
Ceph/Dreamlz/TWIE
IN BOTH OF YOUR WORLDS.

DREALMERZ IS SCUM.

HERE'S A SIMPLE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT.

IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM WITH DREALMERZ FUCKING HELP ME LYNCH HIM. THINK I'M BUSSING? GREAT! HOP ABOARD, MOTHERFUCKER.
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Post Post #4825 (isolation #327) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:00 pm

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FUCKING BEEP BEEP REGFAN, I'M BUSSING DREALMERZ RIGHT? LET'S ALL HOP ON
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Post Post #4828 (isolation #328) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:01 pm

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In post 4823, Regfan wrote:
In post 4807, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4800, Regfan wrote:
In post 4794, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Drealmerz is a fucking distraction, I want to spend my time finding the 4th Townie.

It's you, it's Hebi, it's me and there's one more.

Why would I vote Drealmerz, when I can do that at any time, instead of just focusing on figuring out which of TWIE and Reg is scum?!?!!
I don't understand how voting Dreamlz stops you from attempting to try and get a read on TWIE? Run me through how they're related please.

Edit: Eh, I don't actually hate that explanation. Can you go over your Ceph!Scum and Hebichan!Town reads since you seem very confident in those and "LYLO is a time to consider all options" in your own words, so what have you looked at with either of those today and reconfirmed those reads through?
I've never been more confident of a town read in my life than I am of Hebi being town. especially since my hide on her was night 1, before the scum knew a hider existed, so the likely hood of the "non dream receptive false positive" is super minimized with her.

but even without that she's town. that's never changing.

Cephrir is something I need to consider as we go, but the fact is, I can't see you and TWIE being scum together, so if I eliminate MAth from the pool because she's town, drealmerz is scum and hebi is town... only one of you can be scum which PoE'd Cephrir to the last slot?
Your reasoning re; "Hid behind her before scum knew my ability" is actually fairly solid reasoning and something I can understand from you, the whole "Even without that she's town" is something that I need you to elaborate on, put it this way, I think you're scum together, you convincing me that she's town here works towards convincing me that you're town here and increasing the odds that I vote Dreamlz, so actually work with me here, I don't give a fuck if you think I could be scum or not, just tell me what she's done this game that you think points towards her being town over scum and comment on my issue with her read progression on you throughout the entire game.
I live with her and I've played 1000 games of this type with her in person, that's not an exageration.

I know how to read her. I can soul read her like it is nothing.

The girl. is. fucking. town.

If you think I'm scum, nothing I say here will sway you.

if you think I'm town, trust me.

That's all I have to say.
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Post Post #4830 (isolation #329) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:03 pm

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In post 4827, Regfan wrote:
In post 4824, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: IN BOTH OF YOUR WORLDS.

DREALMERZ IS SCUM.

HERE'S A SIMPLE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT.

IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM WITH DREALMERZ FUCKING HELP ME LYNCH HIM. THINK I'M BUSSING? GREAT! HOP ABOARD, MOTHERFUCKER.
Reading comprehension required, I almost typed that in caps.

I think LLD+Hebi+Dreamlz, LLD+Hebi+TWIE & LLD+Hebi+Ceph are all possible worlds that I think are possible listed in descending strength order.
Aight bruv, but, like, you only get one shot at this. So like, this "decreasing order bullshit where you have 5 possible scum in a town with 7 people in it and the only person you leave off beyiond yourself is the confirmed town mathblade is such weak fucking shit.

If your strongest read of the 3 is drealmerz, then fucking own that shit, or is that a fucking fake thing?
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Post Post #4831 (isolation #330) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:03 pm

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In post 4829, drealmerz7 wrote:hebi, when LLD is town do they have a decent ability to read you? if yes, why would she pick you to hide behind first in the game?


omg, LLD, fuck off with that shit, in any world where you and I are scum you are the lynch that goes first

you should have been the lynch before, know why you weren't? cause you're scum with buddies protecting and distracting

scum been painting me as scum for a ML whole fucking game
BEEP BEEP MOTHERFUCKER.
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Post Post #4834 (isolation #331) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:04 pm

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Why did I hide behind Hebi night 1?

Two reasons.

1) she looked awful day one, and while I knew she was town, I suspected she would be mislynch bait eventually. I wanted to prevent this.
2) I knew she was town and at the time night 1 I was focused on SURVIVAL, since I missed the end of day 1 and couldn't crumb anything.
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Post Post #4835 (isolation #332) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:04 pm

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In post 4833, hebichan wrote:
In post 4829, drealmerz7 wrote:hebi, when LLD is town do they have a decent ability to read you? if yes, why would she pick you to hide behind first in the game?


omg, LLD, fuck off with that shit, in any world where you and I are scum you are the lynch that goes first

you should have been the lynch before, know why you weren't? cause you're scum with buddies protecting and distracting

scum been painting me as scum for a ML whole fucking game

Wait, why are you appealing to me?
CAUSE HE' S A DESPERATE SCUM FUCK WHO WILL SAY ANYTHING
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Post Post #4836 (isolation #333) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:05 pm

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jesus this is bad for my health and for my "no anger" promise. I've just broken it 10 fold
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Post Post #4840 (isolation #334) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:06 pm

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In post 4838, drealmerz7 wrote:LLD is seriously trying to plant in your heads that it is possible we are scum together and banking on you going with me

FUCK THAT SHIT THAT IS JUST SCUMTASTIC

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I'm not fucking appealing to you, I'm asking you to answer the fucking question I posed, WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK
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Post Post #4842 (isolation #335) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:07 pm

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I'm not saying we're scum together you misrepresenting sack of shit.

I'm making fun of Regfan who is suggesting it. I'm goading regfan, telling him that if he thinks we are scum together, he should just lynch you.
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Post Post #4843 (isolation #336) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:07 pm

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(also, by goading Regfan, I get to read him more.)
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Post Post #4862 (isolation #337) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:23 pm

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I crumbed hidng behind Imperium, and I did it because I didn't trust them.

I wanted to either be certain they were town, or die and watch them burn.

When I was asked about this day 3, I explained how I had crumbed.
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Post Post #4865 (isolation #338) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:26 pm

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In post 4864, hebichan wrote:As far as I know, the hider role is not limited and it makes it so they cant be shot unless the person they are hiding behind is shot.


So it makes perfect sense to hide behind someone you think is town but won't be shot.
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Post Post #4867 (isolation #339) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:28 pm

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Ok, we have Hebi on board, now I need to figure out which one of Regfan and TWIE is town.

@TWIE come talk to me about Drealmerz and the game state and fucking anything my dude
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Post Post #4868 (isolation #340) » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:28 pm

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already given, go look in my iso jerk wad
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Post Post #4883 (isolation #341) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 4880, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4879, drealmerz7 wrote:I think you misunderstood me

the she in that is refering to LLD, I've never mispronouned you I don't think

I want you to read LLD's ISO and am surprised she's not getting SR for the shit
...At this point people are playing chess. Scum are trying to create a useful gamestate.Town are trying to figure out who those people are. Mainly I am laying back trying to find the movements. LyLO for me is different than the regular game

Gotta go.

Math

(Sorry I misunderstood just extremely dysphoric ATM. Also completely not a fan of someone posting my nick here.)
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Fuck, I apologize. I didn't even realize.
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Post Post #4884 (isolation #342) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:44 am

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Post Post #4888 (isolation #343) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:13 am

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You know, it IS possible I'm being too paranoid about my results and the dead thread is screaming at me.

Like, if I assume all my results are true, Hebi and Reg are town, you're town and I'm town.

So Drealmerz/Cephrir/TWIE would be 100% confirmed.
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Post Post #4900 (isolation #344) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:44 am

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Then let's all agree on Drealmerz, because he's scum.
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Post Post #4901 (isolation #345) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:44 am

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I encourage you to bus him, Cephrir.
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Post Post #4905 (isolation #346) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:07 am

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In post 4904, Cephrir wrote:I'm probably going to vote LLD today, even though I know you don't want to and therefore I might be blowing it regardless of the facts. :/
Math, can you tell me what this feels ilke to you? Because I know how it feels to me, but I have bias, so.
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Post Post #4908 (isolation #347) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 4906, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4905, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4904, Cephrir wrote:I'm probably going to vote LLD today, even though I know you don't want to and therefore I might be blowing it regardless of the facts. :/
Math, can you tell me what this feels ilke to you? Because I know how it feels to me, but I have bias, so.
Intriguing. I find it intriguing that if Cephrir believes Regfan and I are Town he has to believe you or Hebichan are scum yet he seems resigned.

Mainly far as I am concerned two worlds left
Cephrir + Drealmerz + TWIE

Or Drealmerz + LLD + Hebichan and the latter is more and more less likely.

I don't know why scum didn't kill Regfan?
Well, I can't attest to the time PRIOR to Night 4, but Night 4 I hid behind Regfan.

And scum were cultivating me as a mislynch for a long time. They could not afford to kill me.

Plus, I suspect they would benefit from the WIFOM of "why is Regfan still alive?"

This all assumes Regfan is town, of course. If he's scum and some kind of hider godfather who can make himself dream immune or some shit, then it is obvious what happened.
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Post Post #4910 (isolation #348) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:34 am

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Because that was day 2, and night 2 they global blocked everyone and then killed the claimed mason (Mastin).
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #349) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:43 am

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I really want TWIE to show up..... but I suspect he might be strategically lurking at this point, because the way Drealmerz and Cephrir are playing makes me feel like TWIE is scum and they're pleading to the two remaining townies.

Cephrir is trying to act demotivated, and Drealmerz is trying to start fights and make white noise to distract people.
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Post Post #4916 (isolation #350) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:44 am

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Mod: Please prod or replace TWIE. I need him to come talk to me
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Post Post #4919 (isolation #351) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 4918, drealmerz7 wrote:you're just puttingon a show and you're like stroking yourself off while you do it it's fucking disgusting
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Does everyone see this baiting shit?
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Post Post #4924 (isolation #352) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:50 am

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In post 4922, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4920, drealmerz7 wrote:people who are actually town:

if I'm scum why do I leave no room for other options except me and LLD? I know how to play scum and I'd leave options open so we have more of a chance at a mislynch, doing this ties us into a 50% chance which otherwise would be way less

I just....ugh....hurts my fucking brain how fucking obvious everything is and MB just can't see it

like I said, ceph, reg, MB too, don't vote until LLD, TWIE, and hebi vote
...You didn't leave options in In Memory
also it's not like he's much of a choice, given today.
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Post Post #4931 (isolation #353) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:04 am

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In post 4929, Cephrir wrote:i mean the rl excuses were probably legit.
don't tell Drealmerz this, he'll accuse the transwoman of "stroking themselves off" again.

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Post Post #4932 (isolation #354) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:04 am

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anyway, I'm not voting until I talk to TWIE, so.... let's just wait and see.
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Post Post #4938 (isolation #355) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:11 am

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In post 4934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4929, Cephrir wrote:i mean the rl excuses were probably legit.
don't tell Drealmerz this, he'll accuse the transwoman of "stroking themselves off" again.

:)
Please don't right now...please.
you're not the only one upset and feeling like shit right now.
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Post Post #4944 (isolation #356) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:49 am

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I want him to come talk to me so I can determine his alignment.
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Post Post #4945 (isolation #357) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:49 am

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In post 4943, drealmerz7 wrote:LLD says she wants TWIE to come help...yaaaaaa, cause he's been sooooo fucking helpful at any point previously
That said, doesn't this sound like a bitter scum player who thinks they are on the brink of being lynched when they thought they had this game in the bag, and are salty that their lurk fuck partner won't show up and participate?

Cause that is what it sounds like.
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Post Post #4947 (isolation #358) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:07 pm

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Because before it wasn't lylo and I didn't need every townie vote to lynch you and it was far more likely you might get bussed.

Now I need every townie vote, so I have to pay attention to lurkers.
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Post Post #4948 (isolation #359) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:07 pm

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I shouldn't be biasing myself so strongly before talking to TWIE, but seriously these interactions are selling me on Regfan being town and TWIE being the last scum....
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Post Post #4954 (isolation #360) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:13 pm

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In post 4949, MathBlade wrote:My give a fucks about this game has hit zero.

When someone has an actual question let me know.
Wow that was fast.

Here is a question for you: Do you think Drealmerz and Cephrir's current interactions with you and Regfan are indicitive of TWIE's alignment?
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Post Post #4956 (isolation #361) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:15 pm

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In post 4955, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 4426, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 4281, TheWayItEnds wrote:what the fuck is happening in this thread now?
dont worry guys im here now
Oh hey! I have questions for you!

Let's start here. Who is scum, and why?
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Post Post #4963 (isolation #362) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 4961, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4960, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 4950, drealmerz7 wrote: mathblade, have you read the interaction between LLD and myself that I asked you to?
if not, please do

also please go read the EoD2
Thrice....

And twice....

:/
Yeah I'm becoming exhausted with how Drealmerz keeps asking you to read the game, you tell him "I have" and he tells you "no read it again you didn't read it right because you don't agree with me!"

It's like.... really kind of shitty.
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Post Post #4965 (isolation #363) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:21 pm

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In post 4962, TheWayItEnds wrote:someone explain to me.

how if town has no power.

the dreams can possibly be negative utility.
I think dreams are like randomized, and as such the mason lovers and the hider and Math's role exist as town power to balance it, and Cephrir's oneshot role exists to give scum some early game dream counterplay. Along with the global RB./
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Post Post #4966 (isolation #364) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:22 pm

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Who is scum, TWIE?
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Post Post #4987 (isolation #365) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:33 pm

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Yeah.... ok

Vote: Drealmerz
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Post Post #4989 (isolation #366) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:34 pm

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Math, Hebi, Reg can we just end this and move onto the next day?
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Post Post #4992 (isolation #367) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:36 pm

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In post 4991, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4989, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Math, Hebi, Reg can we just end this and move onto the next day?
before I get an answer to my question? ;)
I mean, I already asked this question and the answer was "I got roleblocked" hence me not instaclearing Imperium day 3, but.... Do you, boo. Ask away IDGAF.
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Post Post #5031 (isolation #368) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:03 pm

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Math, can we lynch Drealmerz now?
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Post Post #5032 (isolation #369) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:03 pm

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Reg, can you remove head from ass and do the same?
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Post Post #5033 (isolation #370) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:04 pm

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Hebi, let's just do this.
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Post Post #5036 (isolation #371) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:05 pm

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That's my best guess at the town. I don't want to do any more of this and I pray I get shot tonight.
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Post Post #5040 (isolation #372) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:06 pm

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In post 5035, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5031, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Math, can we lynch Drealmerz now?
I am talking with Regfan here

And I want all dream choices submitted first.
shit right I need to vote. What should I vote for? I won the olympic medal seems good? I don't want to do the Crush one, that seems like it could make people lovers and thats #dangerous

Unless you can choose them? IDK
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Post Post #5049 (isolation #373) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:11 pm

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In post 5045, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5040, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5035, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5031, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Math, can we lynch Drealmerz now?
I am talking with Regfan here

And I want all dream choices submitted first.
shit right I need to vote. What should I vote for? I won the olympic medal seems good? I don't want to do the Crush one, that seems like it could make people lovers and thats #dangerous

Unless you can choose them? IDK
I don't choose Dream votes:

I assign based on the Dream chosen
I know, I meant, if the Crush one makes 2 people lovers, I wonder if you could choose which two those were?
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Post Post #5055 (isolation #374) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:14 pm

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In post 5053, Cephrir wrote:inb4 lld hebi math

if i call every possibility ill definitely be able to say i called it
You can't be right because you haven't called any possibilties with yourself as scum. :3
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Post Post #5060 (isolation #375) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 5056, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5049, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5045, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5040, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5035, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5031, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Math, can we lynch Drealmerz now?
I am talking with Regfan here

And I want all dream choices submitted first.
shit right I need to vote. What should I vote for? I won the olympic medal seems good? I don't want to do the Crush one, that seems like it could make people lovers and thats #dangerous

Unless you can choose them? IDK
I don't choose Dream votes:

I assign based on the Dream chosen
I know, I meant, if the Crush one makes 2 people lovers, I wonder if you could choose which two those were?
Most likely? I would have to go look at the exact wording of my role PM but we are so not touching that one.

I do not want to make people lovers and have to instantly guess the scum team if that is the case.
Ok, voting for Olympic medal now
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Post Post #5064 (isolation #376) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 5061, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 5055, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5053, Cephrir wrote:inb4 lld hebi math

if i call every possibility ill definitely be able to say i called it
You can't be right because you haven't called any possibilties with yourself as scum. :3
this is cheeky scum feeling like they've got the win

ugh
No, it's Cephrir and I being friends who live in the same city and while I'm pretty sure he's scum, I'm allowed to poke fun at him.

Why do you suck all the fun out of a game?
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Post Post #5074 (isolation #377) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:21 pm

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In post 5069, Cephrir wrote:mr and/or miss

how do you even they-ify that? do you just not?
I think Mx?
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Post Post #5082 (isolation #378) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:24 pm

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Math, are you here? Can we just do this?
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Post Post #5103 (isolation #379) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:32 pm

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I'm pretty sure we're just right here. No quick hammer means we good fam.
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Post Post #5136 (isolation #380) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 5132, Syryana wrote:Sorry ceph

If I had stayed I probably would have jumped off a cliff
:( sorry
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Post Post #5145 (isolation #381) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:26 pm

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Scum's only power was the mass roleblock. That's it.
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #382) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:30 pm

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In post 5147, Cephrir wrote:
In post 5145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Scum's only power was the mass roleblock. That's it.
Still seems better than our basically nothing. :P
You had 2 masons, the ability to control targets for every dream, the ability to outvote scum on every dream, and if that fails, the one shot ability to reverse the votes for a dream to hopefully get a good one.

The dreams probably had a decent amount of power, it just all got lost a bit.
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Post Post #5156 (isolation #383) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:31 pm

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Also, my day 2 hider claim was so tech, lol.
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Post Post #5169 (isolation #384) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:39 pm

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The most obvious scum you've ever seen and yet an entire town was incapable of lynching me on any day.

Perhaps I just played well, and perhaps you were incapable of making allies who wanted to work with you, Drealmerz
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Post Post #5188 (isolation #385) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:57 pm

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I love how people are unable to lynch me and still tell me I played poorly. Like, the entire deadthread is full of people who thought I was scum, and the people alive either thought I was town, or were so discredited that it
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But whatever. If it helps you sleep better at night to think that you played well because you caught me but could never lynch me, by all means. It's no skin off my back.
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Post Post #5189 (isolation #386) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:58 pm

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In post 5182, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4796, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4793, Regfan wrote:@LLD - The point that Math is getting at is that from your point of view if Dreamlz is town the games over if he's not going to unvote you and most scum teams would have had a chance to blitz you at this point (Think TWIE is the only person that hasn't been online since) so therefore he's either confirmed scum to you or the world where you're both town is a world we are never winning.
And I acknowledged this, and I've never thought he was town.

I'm saying that my vote is irrelevant. I don't want to vote him and have him beetlejuice in here and create 10 pages of worthless fucking noise.

And I especially am not going to do it because fucking Math asked me to, of all fucking people.
@Mod: Please edit the above post to make the last line match the following. Keeps the intent.
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Post Post #5195 (isolation #387) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:00 pm

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Yeah alright dude. Glad to know the asshole act wasn't just an ingame thing.
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Post Post #5196 (isolation #388) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:00 pm

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Mathblade, it's fine. He's an asshole, he's shown it, I don't need his validation. He's going to seethe about this loss for a while and that's fine.
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Post Post #5202 (isolation #389) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:02 pm

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Oh, and Nancy? Regarding your posts and Tammy's posts in the dead thread at the end?

I just went to Cabd because I felt it crossed a line for me personally, and I've been tyring my hardest to hold back with my anger management issues. If a warning wasn't given and it wasn't broken up, I was going to go over the line myself.

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Post Post #5206 (isolation #390) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 5201, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5197, MariaR wrote:Glad I was right on Reg and TWIE I had LLD on like early day 1 then dropped that read gg scum well played
Yeah Reg or LLD for scum MVP.

Why did you give Sakura/me the BP reg?
It was a.... point of contention between Reg and I. I felt he should give it to scum, he felt he should give it to Imperium. I told him that Imperium was a slot we would have had to kill at exactly the right time and making them bulletproof would have been awful. He said that if he gave Syr or I BP he'd look awful.

In the end we settled on him giving it to a person we thoguht we could mislynch later in the game. It jsut turned out that that person was town's biggest power role. Whoops.
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Post Post #5207 (isolation #391) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:06 pm

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In post 5203, drealmerz7 wrote:LLD, wtf, I'm calling your play bad and you're calling me an asshole

who's the asshole?
You acted like an ass to me the entirety of the last day and most of the game, and then once I win the game you go out of your way to make me feel worse, so yeah, you're an ass.
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Post Post #5212 (isolation #392) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:08 pm

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In post 5204, serrapaladin wrote:
In post 4938, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4929, Cephrir wrote:i mean the rl excuses were probably legit.
don't tell Drealmerz this, he'll accuse the transwoman of "stroking themselves off" again.

:)
Please don't right now...please.
you're not the only one upset and feeling like shit right now.
this was pretty gross


I think drealm has been represented very unfairly towards the end of the game and since on several counts.
He said some hurtful shit, I expressed it was hurtful and asked the mods to step in to prevent a fight.

What the fuck is the problem with that?

I love it, no matter what I do I can't win.

I scream and yell at people who are dicks, I get scolded.

I do what people tell me to do and go to the mods and express how it hurt? I get scolded.

Fuck this.
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Post Post #5215 (isolation #393) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 5211, drealmerz7 wrote:you have it backwards, seriously, what the fuck ?

I made a funpost talking to myself and gave you a slight scum read and you flipped the fuck out

get into reality
Are you fucking talking about Day 1? I put pressure on you day 1 because I thought I could tunnel you the whole game and make people ignore me (oh look how you were the last mislynch to lose town the game wow)

I'm talking about how you treated me on the last day, and how you're talking about my play now.
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Post Post #5222 (isolation #394) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:12 pm

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In post 5213, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5206, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5201, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5197, MariaR wrote:Glad I was right on Reg and TWIE I had LLD on like early day 1 then dropped that read gg scum well played
Yeah Reg or LLD for scum MVP.

Why did you give Sakura/me the BP reg?
It was a.... point of contention between Reg and I. I felt he should give it to scum, he felt he should give it to Imperium. I told him that Imperium was a slot we would have had to kill at exactly the right time and making them bulletproof would have been awful. He said that if he gave Syr or I BP he'd look awful.

In the end we settled on him giving it to a person we thoguht we could mislynch later in the game. It jsut turned out that that person was town's biggest power role. Whoops.
I agree with Regfan

I townread him because the BP

If he had given it to you you lose hider claim to TWIE that is a scum claim I would have caught I think.
Well to be clear that was night 1. I came up with the Hider claim during day 2.
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Post Post #5224 (isolation #395) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:13 pm

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you played well, Smith, tbh.
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Post Post #5236 (isolation #396) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:18 pm

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In post 5225, Sakura Hana wrote:Dunno i feel like all the town power was in my hands and i just fucked it up.
I don't think you can expect things to happen as they did.

Like, yes you gave Regfan the power night 1 but it turned out to be a super positive town move that protected you.

Night 2 was cancelled by me.

From that point on you targetted the night kill. You can be blamed for MAYBE one of those, but both? Like.... you can't predict every kill at that point.

I dunno I thoguht you were fine. I think your demotivation hurt you more than anything else.

I hope everything turns out better for you moving forward. I hated more than anything to see you lose all the passion you were displaying.
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Post Post #5263 (isolation #397) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:51 pm

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In post 5259, Floodgates wrote:
In post 5202, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh, and Nancy? Regarding your posts and Tammy's posts in the dead thread at the end?

I just went to Cabd because I felt it crossed a line for me personally, and I've been tyring my hardest to hold back with my anger management issues. If a warning wasn't given and it wasn't broken up, I was going to go over the line myself.

I don't care how "not transphobic or xenophobic" you think the dude is, it hurt and it crossed a line for me, so I decided to do what I've been told to do and ask the mod to intervene. If you have a problem with that, can't help you.
I'm sorry if you felt hurt. You have every right to feel it was offensive and what he said *was* inappropriate but saying that he was transphobic carries weight and I don't really agree with that characterization as I read it. I have no problem at all with you taking your feelings about it to the mod or talking about your feelings during the game. I have problems with using RL to get townread and while that's never something I would accuse most people of, I don't trust you that you wouldn't and your comments to MathBlade around that subject came across to me as another instance of that. That's what I was taking issue with.
In that comment I was essentially telling Mathblade not to tell me not to talk about it, and that I was allowed to feel hurt too.

If you think that this is somehow me trying to intentionally manipulate someone based on a common pain, you must really have a low opinion of me.

It was a post made entirely out of the context of the game, which is exactly why I went to a mod to get the conversation to stop, because I was ready to blow up on people.
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Post Post #5268 (isolation #398) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:54 pm

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In post 5263, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 5259, Floodgates wrote:
In post 5202, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Oh, and Nancy? Regarding your posts and Tammy's posts in the dead thread at the end?

I just went to Cabd because I felt it crossed a line for me personally, and I've been tyring my hardest to hold back with my anger management issues. If a warning wasn't given and it wasn't broken up, I was going to go over the line myself.

I don't care how "not transphobic or xenophobic" you think the dude is, it hurt and it crossed a line for me, so I decided to do what I've been told to do and ask the mod to intervene. If you have a problem with that, can't help you.
I'm sorry if you felt hurt. You have every right to feel it was offensive and what he said *was* inappropriate but saying that he was transphobic carries weight and I don't really agree with that characterization as I read it. I have no problem at all with you taking your feelings about it to the mod or talking about your feelings during the game. I have problems with using RL to get townread and while that's never something I would accuse most people of, I don't trust you that you wouldn't and your comments to MathBlade around that subject came across to me as another instance of that. That's what I was taking issue with.
In that comment I was essentially telling Mathblade not to tell me not to talk about it, and that I was allowed to feel hurt too.

If you think that this is somehow me trying to intentionally manipulate someone based on a common pain, you must really have a low opinion of me.

It was a post made entirely out of the context of the game, which is exactly why I went to a mod to get the conversation to stop, because I was ready to blow up on people.
I'm glad to know that when I blow up at people, I'm a monster and a bad person.

And when I go to the mods and express how I feel in a calmer maner, I'm apparently using my real life to manipulate people and a bad person.

Fucking Feels Good Man.
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Post Post #5271 (isolation #399) » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:57 pm

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In post 5270, MathBlade wrote:LLD you have every right to be hurt and nancy you have every right to your perceptions but this is not the place please.
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