Mini 1947: Board Game uPick: The Expansion! Game Over

[Porkens]

Fuck it, I'm asking.

Does anyone have an explanation for the nokill?

[Porkens]

Random hasn't posted yet.

Personally, I think it's better for town if scum doesn't know why their kill didn't go through.

How do you know the scum sent in a kill?

[Porkens]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

How do you know the mafia tried to attack someone?

[Porkens]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

I say go for it.

[Porkens]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

I say go for it.

I'll wait for others to chime in

then why did you ask?

[Porkens]

Sorry everyone, if I was unclear. I was asking if anyone had an explanation, not a theory.

[Porkens]

Random hasn't posted yet.

Personally, I think it's better for town if scum doesn't know why their kill didn't go through.

but theories are fine

Chickadee, how likely do you think it is that the scum no-killed on purpose?
2, did you block either of them?

[Porkens]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

I have a plausible theory explaining why they didn't die. But it could be inaccurate. Should I reveal or wait

You are in the best position to decide. I'd say only reveal if you're unlikely to stop another kill and/or you think you have a guilty.

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

How do you know the mafia tried to attack someone?

It's just my opinion.

Why do you think the person they tried to kill didn't die?

[Porkens]

Thanks Morph. Why is Dan being bandwagonned?

WhyMaf, contingent on what kind of thing?

[Porkens]

SS, did you visit anyone last night?

[Porkens]

Morph - Dan told me to read the thread at a really important time (when you and RC were heating up). It was good advice, well timed, so that counted for a lot with me.

I also went off about a possible scum/scum gambit, but no one scumread me for it, why is dan different?

2 - I wouldn't call it "necessary" but I can't see mafia no-killing last night, and so I assume we could find scum looking through pertinent night actions.

[Porkens]

I think we should quick lynch 2inamillion, finish night two, and see if we can catch the third scum with the results we have by then.

[Porkens]

I'm not calling you anything negative 2inamillion. Anyone can read my games and know I'm living in a glass house.

[Porkens]

I don't call people stupid for how they play, that's what I mean by it.

[Porkens]

I don't have an issue with you. I just thought you were super scummy.

[Porkens]

I'm gonna not answer any questions until we know what the hell's going on.

WhyMafia is locktown now though which is nice.

You already said plenty. Why stop now?

[Porkens]

Arcade, weigh in?

[Porkens]

Whom were you trolling, and why?

[Porkens]

Oh I'm like here, and have been. But I don't see a point to using *effort* until this gets resolved, we lynch one of the two, night intervenes, and we resume. If I'm not here then so be it.

I think chickadee is still scum though, none of her posts since the early one have changed my mind or have even made me do any introspection.

This post came off as extremely awkward scum to me.

{Porkens, Drixx}
{WhyMafia, Randomidget}
{Arcade Pals}
-blob of nullreads
{Actiondan}
{2IAM}
{MTC}

This reads list too....
{WhyMafia, Randomidget} this line also concerns me slightly at the moment.

AD has been scummy today. No question. And I could lynch him. But, there was almost no resistance to his lynch, and that freaked me out.

The fact that scum lost a strong power roll means there is no chance in hell they nokill night 1. Thus; they were blocked. Chickadee and SS both said they assumed this was the case, but now no one wants to talk about it.

I still believe scum are screwed this game and I think I'd be fine with a massclaim to be honest.

[Porkens]

You and WhyMafia, because I thought it was probably not a good idea to out the reason for the no-kill.

How can TOWN out the reason for a no-kill?

[Porkens]

I was taking it as a given that scum wouldn't intentionally no-kill.

Pedit: if they think they stopped it (RB, doctor, bulletproof, etc.)

So if we had a roleblocker claim that they blocked someone, you'd probably lynch the one they blocked, ya?

[Porkens]

You and WhyMafia, because I thought it was probably not a good idea to out the reason for the no-kill.

How can TOWN out the reason for a no-kill?

I can think of several reasons.

run a couple by me?

[Porkens]

No reason to massclaim imho when we are in such a good position.

I disagree. The scum are on their back foot, and it's time to rout them.

[Porkens]

You aren't worried that you will be dead tomorrow and any information you might have goes into the toilet with you?

[Porkens]

I was given a one shot role block for having 0 votes on me at the end of day 1. I blocked chickadee.

[Porkens]

You aren't worried that you will be dead tomorrow and any information you might have goes into the toilet with you?

Are you?

Yes.

[Porkens]

I've done my bit. Take as long as you like.

[Porkens]

Sorry btw Chickadee, I was looking forward to playing with you

[Porkens]

I am sorry.

I revealed this because there was no nightkill and I roleblocked yo. not wanting a quicklynch was because i wanted time to claim.

Also, you locked my vote, and for that you must die. ( I didnt know you were the one untill you said so yourself. btw.)

[Porkens]

Also, I believe your role has no night action. That's why you submitted the kill.

[Porkens]

I think there was a no kill because the person the mafia tried to attack didn't die.

How do you know the mafia tried to attack someone?

this post is so bad it hurts me

Good.

[Porkens]

unvote

k

[Porkens]

What report?

[Porkens]

No it was a joke, gerry.

[Porkens]

bad ass, you mean.

[Porkens]

knew it

[Porkens]

Drunk morph head, lets coordinate next time.

[Porkens]

gnight

[Porkens]

1. morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt)

Morph, I am so happy to be playing with both your heads Your posts are congent, lucid, and enjoyable to read. I think the chances of you gambiting on MK while scum are really low, just because I don't think you would hurt the scumteam like that. Faking a daycop guilty is legendary, and I am thoroughly enchanted by your play. Town forever.

2. Porkens

Mafia is so much fun for me, even when I'm irritated, that I'm usually still having fun. I forget that other people may have their feelings hurt more easily. I realize I am offputting sometimes. I used to tell people "you have insulted me, now we never speak again" but I don't anymore. I'm sure if someone really tried, they could tilt me, but so far, this game is nothing but fun for me. I'm town. I roleblocked Chickedee last night.

3. Chickadee

I like your avatar! And I'm a little worried that I hurt your feelings. I think you are scum Convince me otherwise! Who, besides Dan, would you lynch today?

4. Arcade Pals (Dunnstral + MariaR)

I really like your gimmick. You seem quiet though and I'd love to hear more. Mostly because we were on opposite teams in our last game and I never really got the chance to play with you. I love video games and feel like an Arcade Pals fan. I think UR town this game.

5. ActionDan

Dan! I feel like we have played before. Do you remember what game it was? By the way, everyone thinks you are scum. I appreciated your advice to me on day 1, but you gatta unfurl your town sails or you are gunna get lynched real soon. I think you are town still, but you gatta convince everyone else. Morph is town, so who else can you lynch today?

6. TwoInAMillion

Nice to meet you! I don't think you are playing badly, but you flipped your votes around like crazy, and it made you look scummy to me. I would like to turn you into an ally, though.

7. gerryoat

Hi Gerry, nice to see you again. You are playing the same way here as you did in that other game we were in together. I'd like to know who you think are scum on the two big wagons. I'd also like to know why you asked both Morph and myself "are you serious" when we claimed our results?

8. Creature

',','',''',',,,' ,'',',',',' ',',',' ',',,,, ,'',',','',',',?

9. Mad King Ashnard (RadiantCowbells + Raskolnikov)

U dead. I waffled all over the place for you. I probably would have unvoted you and flipped to morph if my vote hadn't been locked!

10. Drixx

Hi Drixx, nice to meet you. I'm sorry you were/are having health problems, and I hope you recover soon. I feel I should say I think you were too harsh with Morph recently. Had you played much with MKA before this game? I'm having trouble finishing off my sorting of you.

11. WhyMafia

Hi whyMafia! its nice to meet you. You are soooooo background this game. It makes me a bit leery, but I think you are probably town. What is your pick for the remaining two scum?

12. Something_Smart

Hi SS! You seem like a nice person. I had you pegged as scum earlier day 1, but now rereading you look towney to me. Do you still believe my claim even though you know Morph was lying? What do you think of the players who are not voting yet?

13. randomidget

Hi randomidget! It's nice to meet you. I like your avatar. I think you are going to be lynched eventually unless you start posting content. I currently have a null read on you, because you are lurking.

[Porkens]

I feel you Drixx.

[Porkens]

Oh! Well, in that case...

PORKENSBOT REBOOTING!
>interrogative mode engaged...

"SS, why is Creature "probably" scum?"

[Porkens]

someone give me a list of three ppl to ISO plz

It will be interesting to see...

[Porkens]

Unless someone presents a credible competing theory about why there was no nightkill OR why Chickadee can't be scum, I demand we lynch Chickadee.

vote: chickadee

[Porkens]

someone give me a list of three ppl to ISO plz

That’s an interesting question this game. I would say definitely myself and action dan. We’re the leading wagons. Drixx requested everyone read his, and it’s short enough to throw in there. I would say there’s probably also a few more but a lot of people are hanging around in a middle could-go-either-way kind of space.



Pedit: porkens I don’t see myself being able to convince you. So I’ll eat the mislynched today if needed if you’ll lynch action dan tomorrow. However we still have a lot of day left, and some people have barely checked in, so let’s at least gather info and use the day as best we can. I’d like a chance to go through everything again and put together some final notes before the end.

All ok with me, Chickadee

[Porkens]

IMO dont worry about drixx yet.

[Porkens]

SS, where was the soft that you caught?

[Porkens]

^RE Chickadee

[Porkens]

Drixx, did it ping you at all when MKA tried to prod you through roboporkens?

Pedit: my bad then.

[Porkens]

I mean I did see something, but I'm not the kind of person to out softs unless you're wanting us to.

this post kinda contradicts itself, no?

[Porkens]

I mean I did see something, but I'm not the kind of person to out softs unless you're wanting us to.

this post kinda contradicts itself, no?

If you want to see something, go look for it yourself. Drixx himself told us there's something to see in his ISO. So I'm not revealing anything more than he did.

I did, and I tried to signal that I saw the soft as well, and then he tried to deny it. I shut up about it, and now its dragged out into the open.

[Porkens]

WhyMafia isn't scum.

VOTE: ActionDan

for reasons that will make sense later. Also scum. I have every confidence this is where my vote will be at the end of the day.

^This is the soft btw.

How is that a soft?

[Porkens]

edit: how is that a soft for votelocker, i mean?

[Porkens]

Scum is in action why and chick

Ok but theres only 2 more scum, so who would you bet on?

Did we get a confirmation on the roleblock?

I roleblocked chickadee. What kind of confirmation are you looking for?

[Porkens]

There can be no confirmation. You have Porkens word that he did indeed rollback me, and you have my work that at this point int he game I have no night action.

and pointedly NOT "I, Chickadee, did not have a night action last night".

"I have every confidence this is where my vote will be at the end of the day."
That doesn't sound like a votelocker soft to you? If you lock someone's vote then you know with absolute confidence where it will be at the end of the day.

Are you saying that she was softing locking her own vote?

[Porkens]

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see you tomorrow

[Porkens]

Dunn.

[Porkens]

I got no report back if that's what you are asking.

[Porkens]

Like, fine.

Vote: ActionDan

[Porkens]

THEN LYNCH HER

[Porkens]

I thought you were just slowing around.

If you wanna lynch her, tell other people to do so. Be the hero this town needs.

[Porkens]

cause I did my best and its been a big wet fart

[Porkens]

Day 1 was short but sweet. Let's take our time today and get/require some data from players who haven't posted much so far.

no objections!

unvote

[Porkens]

I have to assume I roleblocked scum.

But you know me, ill lynch "anyone".

[Porkens]

I'll hammer actiondan if someone puts him at l-1

[Porkens]

Chickadee, from your POV, who is actions and most likely partner?

[Porkens]

I'll hammer actiondan if someone puts him at l-1

What has caused your Action Dan read to degrade to such an extent?

his posts are next to useless and im bored

[Porkens]

I guess it's also kind of an ultimatum to town.

Say what you want about the value of a slow day, but nothing has happened in 24 hours.

We rub this day out and move on, IMO. If AD dies to make that happen, good.

Preferably though, we lynch the person whom Occam's razor indicates is scum.

pedit: ''','',',',,,',''','','',',

[Porkens]

Vote: Chick

do it.

[Porkens]

I mean at this point it's probably just Dan and Chick.

I do feel bad for Dan; two fake-guilty gambits in a row as scum for him if I'm right.


Reminds me of how scum had already given up by the end of day one in For Us.

Yeah, this is why I offered a surrender/best 2-of-3 option.

I liked this list, a lot.

[Porkens]

vote: Dan

[Porkens]

Follow the locked vote

[Porkens]

If Dan claims something relevant, I'll eat the thread.

[Porkens]

I disagree with this plan. Either we lynch her now or she becomes a free agent. I will not agree to Chickadee being controlled.

Vote: Chickadee

Dan, save yourself or die.

[Porkens]

Despite how her wagon looks, Chickadee is the correct vote.

If I hadn't blocked Chickadee, Dan would be the best lynch.

Please VOTE: VOTE CHICKADEE

[Porkens]

morph the cat
gerryoat

WhyMafia
Dunnstral

Something_Smart
TwoInAMillion

randomidget
Creature
Drixx
ActionDan

Chickadee

[Porkens]

Morph, Gerry, Why, and someone who wants more townpoints, please lynch Chickadee. It is the most reasonable course of action.

With no offence to Morph, unless you think the scum nokilled, this is the simplest explanation. Giving her powers doesn't feel good to me. Lynching someone whose posts are scummy versus someone whose mechanically obvscum is not ok, especially since she gets powers tonight.

Please join me in lynching Chickadee.

[Porkens]

You are playing like you did in Kidney Mafia

[Porkens]

also if you have action that low, why not just lynch them today?

Because I roleblocked Chickadee last night, and there was no nightkill. Chickadee also hasn't impressed me as a particularily town-sided agent during days 1 and 2. Actiondan's scumminess is just reads - perhaps they are correct. However, since the mechanics point to Chickadee, there is no strong town-tell from Chickadee, and her claim is just icky.

Morph has said that they are probably the last two scum. In that case, it makes much more sense to lynch Chickadee.

I'm capable of playing the same as either alignment, so i'm gonna need a better reason than that

I'll have to take your word for that, I think I only have one completed game with you.

[Porkens]

edit: plus, of course, POE.

[Porkens]

save us Dunn

[Porkens]

Well that was a quick flight.

[Porkens]

Chickadee (L-3): ActionDan, Something_Smart, TwoInAMillion, Porkens

ActionDan (L-2): WhyMafia, Meeple(locked), Chickadee, gerryoat, Morph

[Porkens]

Please lynch Chickadee.

Sorry for spamming.

[Porkens]

Are these posts from different heads?

Spoiler:

Here's the offer I'm gonna throw out.

We lynch adan today after running through your hoops.

From tonight onward you are treated like a leashed SK.

If I'm alive, you answer to me. If I'm dead, you answer to S_S. If we're both dead, you answer to Dunnstraal.

And you have to die before lylo to confirm any of your "clears" either via lynch of if there's a vig out there.

Any deviation from your orders on who to target/clear/confirm/etc is an immediate scum claim and will be murdered with extreme prejudice.

I disagree with your disagree, so there.

VOTE: gerrygoat
UNVOTE:

VOTE: ActionDan

There. Somebody else can do the rest, i'm getting on a plane.

Two different heads yo.

I still prefer to leash but I fully realize not everyone shares my approach.

And in this case; the flight in question is united out of ohare.....

So sorta gotta be early lest I get united's customer service to the face.

You mentioned a plan about squishing Dan with night actions. Yes, obviously

[Porkens]

Please Vote Chickadee.

[Porkens]

For having 0 votes on me at the end of day one, I was given a 1-shot Roleblock ability. I used it on Chickadee. There was no nightkill.

[Porkens]

Were those posts from different heads or not?

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

Chickadee is our resident votelocker.

Vote chickadee.

2, sorry I was so vile against you yesterday.

[Porkens]

I honestly don't care as long as you don't screw up the chickadee lynch.

[Porkens]

I actually do care though, why would you do that? You refuse to even weigh in on the chickadee/Dan counterwagons at all and instead do this. I think I know what you are getting at but if actually suspected me, then at least make your case instead of just setting up false binaries.

[Porkens]

See, even the mod can't believe you voted for me.

shhh.... you saw nothing

[Porkens]

So why aren't you voting for that person?

[Porkens]

Now that was something smart!



I see what you are saying though Drix. I am fine with having any number of votes on me at days end from here on out.

[Porkens]

Ahhhh your phone is like mine.

[Porkens]

This is an M Night Shamamalan thread, though, so watch out. There might be...

a happening

[Porkens]

Your list is like, totally missing the possibility that we are both town.

[Porkens]

or, oh ok its there in the second number 2, sorry.

[Porkens]

You would think, right?

[Porkens]

I mean, I keep hearing the EM people screaming "HES TRYING TO OUT THE DOC"
But I don't think a doc would be dumb enough to out here, ever (unless he needed to NOT IN THIS CASE).

[Porkens]

I mean, I keep hearing the EM people screaming "HES TRYING TO OUT THE DOC"
But I don't think a doc would be dumb enough to out here, ever (unless he needed to NOT IN THIS CASE).

(the EM people are voices in my head, btw.)

[Porkens]

Who is your highest townread, Drix?

[Porkens]

When I’m gone, quick lynch Actiondan and then consider lynching random.

It is striking to me that you did not try to call me scum after I guiltied you. It makes me think you may have "give-up slipped"

meh. messed up the quote. I think it's reasonably clear. If not, I'll redo if asked.

To be honest, I don't get it. But if it's really important, I hope you will break it down for me a bit more?

When I’m gone, quick lynch Actiondan and then consider lynching random.

Is random's meta about the Green Haired uPick inaccurate?

Player A asking player B to invalidate the meta of player C. Weird.

V/LA until Monday

Have a great weakend, friend!

When I’m gone, quick lynch Actiondan and then consider lynching random.

Is random's meta about the Green Haired uPick inaccurate?

I would say yes. I replaced into that game. I was scum and because uninvested pretty quickly. I’m trying here.

so it is accurate but doesnt apply here
nice shade though
also not being invested after day 1 would make sense here

If this were directed towards me, I would feel a liitle hurt.

meh. messed up the quote. I think it's reasonably clear. If not, I'll redo if asked.

I think it was really clear. It was just a messed up quote tag so everyone can see where my words end and your's start.

As for your observation that some of my post seems loaded. It was. I generally don't make a post without a purpose and expectations for response.

I'm what you might call an "efficient" player

. I used to write huge walls (literally thousands of words) often. That taught me to be efficient.

ccan we just lynch and move on?

Gerryoat for president.

[Porkens]

Ehhhhhhhhhh I'm not trying to be difficult, but could you just give it to me in one sentence?

[Porkens]

In post 1581, randomidget wrote:
In post 1580, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1578, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1575, Chickadee wrote:
When I’m gone, quick lynch Actiondan and then consider lynching random.


Is random's meta about the Green Haired uPick inaccurate?

I would say yes. I replaced into that game. I was scum and because uninvested pretty quickly. I’m trying here.

so it is accurate but doesnt apply here
nice shade though
also not being invested after day 1 would make sense here


If this were directed towards me, I would feel a liitle hurt.

what do you mean?

I mean if you had directed that message towards me, I might have interpreted it as coming with an insulting tone. Just an observation. I know it was not directed towards me, and my feelings are not hurt.

[Porkens]

I did not.

[Porkens]

Now, I'm honestly asking, so please explain if I have it wrong, are you trying to intimidate people with your reads? AGREE WITH ME OR GET LYNCHED. Is that what you are saying?

I agree.

[Porkens]

morph, you choose.

If you are town, read this:

Spoiler:

LYNCH CHICKADEE, and stop reading this post now

If you are scum, keep reading:

How about bullet-points?

ok, you asked for it.

- I understand the reasoning behind Drixx voting you now.

why is he?

- I initially took exception to the tone of his reply to me, but after a second read it's not quite as dramatically accusatory as I thought

so what?

- But, I think he used some loaded "you're scummy" words in his reply to me that seem out of phase with how I view our play in this game, which gives me some slight "was that a fabricated reaction?" vibes.

he doesn't read you like you read you so he is scummy? I don't know if that makes sense. Help?

- I am considering the fact that WhyMafia had a similar reaction to a post I made on day 1.

id rather not do research if it's not important enough for you to site the information here.

- Not stated in the post but also weighed in my thoughts is the fact that at least one player on MS finds our hydra extra-abrasive, beyond what we are like as separate players. I wonder if my posts take on extra oomph if people aren't sure who's posting.

so you are saying RC suicided on you because one of your heads and RC don't get along?

The result of the last three bullet points is that my read of Drixx remains about where it was before, in the null area I described in our last reads list of day 1. 1125. Maybe a slight townward bounce.

is this the main point? Is this your case for drixtown?

[Porkens]

Inb4 you are tired of my bs for the rest of the day.

[Porkens]

Woah, what happened there? Did it just get a little warmer in here? I might have missed something.

[Porkens]

Yep, I'm right there with you.

[Porkens]

but its none of those and chickadee is maf.

[Porkens]

Bet she never, ever calls me scum.

[Porkens]

Creature,
I really REALLY thought about it

[Porkens]

How about now, Morph?

[Porkens]

>...input received
>scanning...

I sorta wanted a computer rn to answer 1594

What do you think about how ActionDan attacked morph? Was it fake?

What do you think about it?

[Porkens]

>...data acquired
>processing...

I'm skimming here and there but regarding CHEATING AND STEALING;

@morph, Will the mod acknowledge something has happened even if you don't die?

Hey guys.

I'm not a daycop. I'm not even a night cop lel.

I just gambited because of a very cool RC-specific tell that is super effective; then didn't retract because that is NOT how town being fake guiltied reacts. We'd know, we've been town fake-guiltied before. Claiming drixx while backed into a corner was the final straw. Up until that point I was debating coming clean and eating the d1 lynch to have my reads accuracy confirmed. Glad we didn't end up having to.

So no apology from Porkens needed although I think ffery needs a new fainting couch.






Apologies for doing so instead of just casing him but I felt he'd wriggle out. As a few of you were already taking his charisma to be townplay.

You may begin hating me now; but let's move on back to game stuff in like 24 hours or so, kay?

VOTE: Morph

You have to die.

I don't believe you'd do that as town. I don't believe that even if you thought it up and attempted to execute it as town, ffery would go along with it.

I also remember seeing a weird post where ffery alt-slipped and pretended to be answering as you a while back and I remember that being strange. But now I suppose that was all part and parcel to w/e this is.

I might die today because you've done well to stir up (almost) everyone's appetite for a tasty AD mislynch, but I can only hope the town one day lynches you at some point. but sooner rather than later.

Chickadee probably also scum with you too but I'm pretty sure most of town here will figure that out on their own

If you want to go with "elaborate gambit of scum-scum pairing to derail all day one discussion into an effective gladiate between two scum on the hopes of setting the other to go long and win it all" then fine, but cite your reasoning. Also cite why I'd bother coming clean now.

Oh I'll answer this

1) You think if I suspend disbelieve that you'd fake a cop guilty as town, you wouldn't be able to try for a gambit as scum?
2) You'd have to believe there's a real cop out there and you're covering that base

I'm capable of theater. I don't respond to pressure well. I tend to draw back when I'm caught as scum.

Besides the fact that the first statement contradicts the other two, I'm not going to take your word for it that you'd be more convincing than morph/RC here, and I believe the other two would be more willing to execute that plan of hard 1v1 bussing than you might be.

But you are implying that I did indeed go along with the hard bussing.

You were not even involved. As far as your say in the matter in a scum QT I doubt you'd do anymore than tacitly sanction it

I'd say locking a vote other than my own onto scum is involved. If I really wanted to be able to claim something later, I would have just not locked the vote. It would still be provable later by then locking a vote.

Hardly. I don't know why you think there's any sort of risk involved in locking a vote unto one of the two scum partners that were guaranteed to get lynched while you would not have had to reveal it was you and could choose to disclose that info anytime. It also wouldn't look particularly bad if it did get revealed.

VOTE: Chickadee

there you go

It was this post that I remembered ffery, but skimming it again I see that you use references to Cabd too in the 3rd person so forget that bit. (that said it's a weird way to summarize feelings as if you're talking from the hydra as a separate sentience).

What exactly do you want to talk with me about? Because I honestly have very little to say to you

[Porkens]

Seriously I will yell at you guys. This has been pissing me off all day.

The town players in this game need to turn on and start working together while the scum, apparently, are unable to do so. Or we just stop pretending that the game isn't beyond repair if king flips scum while his partner is on Sickleave (and with all symapthy because I do really care about the health and well being of each and every one of you) was nobody's fault. But scum are done. If that's what it is, I propose, out of consideration of the work and effort that went into this game. This seems like a swingy setup that swung hard day one. It's fun! Don't get me wrong, but I offer the scum a chance to surrender in order that the mods can rerun. I like what I'm seeing here a lot, but if I just spent a month in a game where it got hard because of bad feelings and

mistrust

. I believe both claims, except mad kings is clearly a scumrole. Because unless you guys are in late stage rolefaking mastery, both those claims seem legit. Let's do 2 out of three and reroll.

At this point I am just discussing with you the idea as a concept. This is intentionally not an "at mod" post. I want to discuss this as a group.




If you agree with me, sign...
-charter 2.0
You know the drill.

Signed...
Porkens

that's my job, morph hahaha, sorry.

So, no I don't believe both roles are true, but the only difference is alignment. What are masons but two maf and a quiet friend?

You caught king, and king is scum.

King chose to claim mason and appoint one of his mafia brothers to name as the mason partner. In this scenario, why choose Drixx? If I am scum, its because he is not present.

Furthermore, in this scenario, the third partner is either being strongly Townsend, or is so incompetent that he is better not to align with.



On the other hand, if he is a mason, then why aren't you dead, Morph?

I see what you mean. Do you think a world exists where king is naming drixx as a mason bud just to try and take a townie with him?

No offense, if you think he is scum, why are you waiting for the town to come back and give the scum more info?

Check it out:

If masons, ...impossible
If scum with scum... impossible (says you)
If scum grab town, why would we want a claim?

If you're fine accepting that the drixx slot dies( or is otherwise confirmed as an alignment) before any potential lylo then go for it. I am pretty sure action Dan is a partner. I'm less sure of drixx.

I see several worlds in which it's somebody like chikade random or creature as the third.

I'm sorry I didn't follow this.

How would the drixx slot be killed and or confirmed?

VOTE: Morph the Cat

I guess that was fake drunk after all.

Sometimes I forget whether I'm lying or not.

No no no I don't buy the offended card, and even if I did you have no footing with that argument. You got drunk and stumbled into the thread, making it all about yourself. You drew this attention and now you want me to back off? The thread is the game. Your drunkenness is in the game. You are a liar, friend, as are we all, but the difference is that today YOU are the one who is lying.

Cheat
And
Steal

Omfgwtf LOL

doublevote
And
1-shot vote freezer

Lynch the scum.

So let's lynch morph then

I'll be your partner.


....


Why? Because he is scum.

I feel like either way this goes, we get two scum? But I'm pretty sure morph is the right lynch.

1. Morph the Cat scam
6. TwoInAMillion scum
12. Something_Smart scum

[Porkens]

Should we go back to ActionDan?

No, Creature, we should lynch Morph.

[Porkens]

Vote: Morph

[Porkens]

I roleblocked Chickadee because I townread actiondan.
I roleblocked Chickadee because she seemed like a likely partner to Morph.
I think scum are hiding in plain site, trying to activate some power.

I did get a 1 shot roleblock last night.
I did use it on Chickadee.
My roll has another power.
I was going to use it on Morph tonight.
But I'm willing to discuss.

Now we will see who wants a short day.

[Porkens]

>...322...323...324...324....
>...ALERT ALERT...
>...ALERT ALERT...
>...Scum gambit detected...
>...Range...320...326...
>...Reads updated...

> EMERGENCY OVERRIDE
>Engaging...
>Tinfoil hat mode ENGUAGED!

If I live, by the way, this is a serious claim and we are instantly lynching Ashnard.

This is not a gambit or reaction test; and I am 100% willing to get instantly powerlynched day two if I live and he flips town. Because it won't happen. Either I die in the next VC; or Ashnard is confirmed scum.

>...attempting translation...
>..."Well, look, here, I just used a magic spell on this guy. I'm gonna die if he is town. So if he is scum, I'll live. So if I don't die, lynch him, then lynch me tomorrow."...
>...This will benefit town...
>...lynch this guy to prove I'm town...

>...sadmode enabled...
VOTE: Morph the cat
:.(

Reaching out.

>...user not recognized...
>...threat received and recorded for posterity...
>...user recognized: somethingsmart...

Cabd's drunkenness felt way, way played up and I find it kind of weird that Ffery didn't say anything to me about the roleplay and instead went serious mode trying to 'sort' SS.

Whatever gave you the impression I went serious mode?

Cabd is pretty drunk, though!

Why did you expect me to comment on your roleplay?

ALSO RVS BECAUSE FFERY SINT MY REAL MOM AND I CAN USE CAPSLOCK WHEEEE


VOTE: thatonerchydrathaticantbearzedtoname,somefireleblemrefrenceidk

This was a vote by my esteemed neuterhalf for Mad King Ashnard

Vote: Mad King Ashnard

I'm completely confused here but am gonna call everyone except my 2IAM and chick scummy

What makes chickadee not scummy to you?

Even dropping all this though do you know why cabd says he scumread us?

At first? I was drunk and wanted to see where it would go.


Now? Because RC ran away from the prom by leaving me with the check at the restaurant we'd gone to before; and the food wasn't that good because he took me to TGI Fridays and the fries were soggy.

This is a scumteam falling out.

[Porkens]

we aren't lynching morph, wtf are you guys doing. just lynch the blocked target.

I TRIED GARRy, I TRIED FOR A WEEK, YELL AT THEM, NOT ME

[Porkens]

NOW THIS HAPPENS

[Porkens]

Garry, you want to lynch actiondan, right? Why?

[Porkens]

Who has been posting today and yesterday?

Both of us.

I've been asked to hold off for now.
Who posted the hubris comment?

That would be me.

Do you think if you were confirmed town you could win this game?

If I didn't get nightkilled yes.

Besides you, who would be the best candidate for a instant day one daycop?

@mod how verbose are flips this game?

Apparently the answer here is "very limited" because i got referred to the OP.

GuyinFreezer, The Game of Life 50th Special Anniversary Edition, Game Reviewer, has had his Life cut short!

Something like this.

This is cutting a bus deal between 1 head from each hydra.

[Porkens]

wait..THAT LIST WAS MY IDEA FFERY YOU JERK ;~:

You guys hard-towned our top scumread. :/ I was giving you a pass and blaming Dunnstral.

I wish you like...asked us about this instead of just doing

that

first zzz

this is one partner pissed off that they weren't in on the gambit

[Porkens]

Unvote chickadee its not her. they no killed or there was a save.

[Porkens]

but its not dan either

[Porkens]

Theory 1: Morph, King, Arcade Pals
Theory 2: Morph, King, Chickadee
Theory 3: King, Chickadee, ???

unvote

>Awaiting input...

[Porkens]

Town:
2inamillion
ActionDan
Creature
Porkens
WhyMafia
Drix
Random
SomethingSmart

Scum (2 of)
Morph
Chickadee
Arcade Pals

Let's compare lists and narrow it down a bit?

[Porkens]

No.

If you think what I did was wrong or scummy, lynch Actiondan.

If you think I'm right or town, vote Morph.

Or, VOTE FUCKING CHICKADEE.

[Porkens]

No.

If you think what I did was wrong or scummy, lynch Actiondan.

If you think I'm right, vote Morph.

Or, SIMPLY VOTE FUCKING CHICKADEE.

EPWOP

[Porkens]

I sorta wanted a computer rn to answer 1594

That's why I townread Chickadee.

[Porkens]

>read thread

That's why I townread Dan

[Porkens]

No.

If you think what I did was wrong or scummy, lynch Actiondan.

If you think I'm right, vote Morph.

Or, SIMPLY VOTE CHICKADEE.

EPWOP

EBWOP again.

[Porkens]

I sorta wanted a computer rn to answer 1594

That's why I townread CREATURE.

EBWOP damn it

[Porkens]

I townread Chickadee

[Porkens]

I roleblocked Chickadee because I townread actiondan.
I roleblocked Chickadee because she seemed like a likely partner to Morph.
I think scum are hiding in plain site, trying to activate some power.

I did get a 1 shot roleblock last night.
I did use it on Chickadee.
My roll has another power.
I was going to use it on Morph tonight.
But I'm willing to discuss.

Now we will see who wants a short day.

this is where i am at unless chickadee is scum

tghose are my parallel universes. only on e is true, im the same role in both.

but, if you insist, ill stay consistent:

vote: chickadee

[Porkens]

so what was the vote lock from?

[Porkens]

unvote

Ok, maybe it is Dan and not chickadee.

Vote: ActionDan

[Porkens]

no, I dont' say those posts were town posts.

[Porkens]

I quoted those to show his moves on you. That's all he's talked about.

[Porkens]

The Chickadee wagon has always looked scummy to me. Doesn't feel right anymore. Day went too long.

ActionDan it is.

[Porkens]

TwoInAMillion, this is my world right now:

I BLOCKED CHICKADEE.
I VOTED FOR CHICKADEE.
DAN GOT UP TO L-1
CHICKADEE GOT UP TO L-2 or L-1

FOR A WEEK: NO HAMMER

SO I SAY:

OK, THEN VOTE MORPH IF YOU DONT THINK ITS CHICKADEE OR ACTIONDAN

What do I get?

"no porkens thats crazy and studpid do you retract?"

I'm

done

helping.

[Porkens]

Please, for the love of christ, start a counterwagon on me.

[Porkens]

Vote: Chickadee

my head is going to explode guys.

[Porkens]

VOTE: Dunnstral
VOTE: gerryoat
VOTE: Creature
VOTE: Drixx
VOTE: WhyMafia
VOTE: Meeple
VOTE: Randomidget
VOTE: Something_Smart
VOTE: Porkens
VOTE: Chickadee

So, did anything happen?

[Porkens]

good question.

[Porkens]

It's just a competing theory. People were getting fussy about lynching chickedee.

I am going off two competing theories:

1 - Chickedee + ??? is scum.
2 - Morph + ??? is scum.

Everyone seems to agree that 2 is improbable.

ActionDan's ISO clearly targets morph over doubts about his claim and the Day 1 results.

Creature asked me to look more closely at the AD/Morph situation.

So, in reality, I think Theory 2 is REALLY REALLY unlikely, and theory 1 is much more realistic.

But, I've been going with Theory 1 for real life days now, and everyone wants to slowroll.

So, I'm expounding on my darkhorse/tinfoil hat theory to make the game make sense another way - and perhaps to stir the pot and make something happen.

[Porkens]

UNVOTE

This speaks to me, well done.

I like the way your hydra works together.

I do the same thing with both halves of my brain.

This is TPFKAP.

Oh, I. I didn't even get to be introduced.

Stop it, you are flirting too much. And I did too introduce you.

No! You said that you "do that with both halves of your brain." So I am just half of "your" brain?

Aren't I half of your brain, then, by the same logic?

No, you asshole, we are the same person.

Here is Porkens' read list (I think chickedee flips scum):

Morph
Dunnstral

Something_Smart
Gerry
Whymafia

Randomidged
Creature

Drixx
TwoInAMillion

ActionDan

But here's mine (I think Chickedee flips town):

Morph
Dunnstral

Something_Smart
TwoInAMillion

Gerry
Whymafia
Randomidget

Creature
Drixx

Actiondan

[Porkens]

Which one is better?

[Porkens]

I wouldn't say that's stupid. But why are so many people willing to Lynch Dan? I haven't seen anything particularily scummy

[Porkens]

*from Dan

[Porkens]

Why can't Chickadee be scum with Dan? Interesting. Why would...hold on I'm not going to let him gender my text.

This is TPFKAP by the way. Why would Chickadee go so hard at Dan at day start? Arcade Pals started the Dan wagon I believe. We should look at that.[/color]

[Porkens]

Hey everyone! Just gonna say this now

Do not vote us

If we don't get more then 2 votes today we get extra abilities otherwise they go away.

VOTE: mad
Look at me claiming a role that's clear but i have nothing to back it up

Out the partner or die

Lol you think threats scare me cute.
I'll unvote when Drixx comes and confirms it

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Action Dan

Nice.

[Porkens]

but that's too much work.

[Porkens]

I want a massclaim TBH

[Porkens]

^Porkens

[Porkens]

UNVOTE:

[Porkens]

Who did you target?

[Porkens]

if I remember correctly. Hard lurking, lack of giving reads besides tunneling Chick, and his comments regarding Chick/Morph seemed weird

But when I read his ISO, I don't see that. I see him not believing Morph's lie on day 1.

[Porkens]

I did Morph N1 thinking that'd be the NK
Morph was visited by 1 person

Do you see yourself visiting your target?

[Porkens]

What's your real role morph?

[Porkens]

It's always amusing when people suggest I'm scum and provide exactly zero reasons.

@Morph - Can I have a post from each of you individually, signed, which puts your ego on the line in regards to that "read"? Thanks in advance.

You were picked by scum-MKA as his claimed mason-partner. You took your sweet time deciding whether to repudiate the claim. That is why I think you could be scum. You've given reasons for why you played it that way. Those reasons don't entirely satisfy my concerns.

There's an argument to be made that MKA wouldn't implicate one of his scum-partners in that claim, but it's basically a hall of wifom-mirrors. At the very least, you shouldn't make it to LYLO. If you're town, I hope the game is over long before LYLO.

RC also oddly poked him indirectly way before all that

[Porkens]

Okay for now at least.

Does anyone want to claim a visit on morph last night?

[Porkens]

Oh it's dan/morph.


Hahaha yeah, there we go.

[Porkens]

Maf wouldn't sac 1 of 3 scum. Maf sacs 2 of 3 scum. That's how you get one end up in lylo.

Day 1, morph and king gladiate. It's all a big show that gets the scummiest of the two lynched. If it's king, morph is "clear". If it's morph, king is clear.

Day 2, morph and dan distance. Dan doesn't "believe" the claim. If dan gets lynched, morph goes to "double secret clear". If morph gets lynched somehow, dan is the hero who saved the day.

It's morph and dan.

Morph has stayed the fence all day. 'Go ahead and vote but don't blame me when this goes wrong" except those few posts where morph was taunting me to lynch dan.

[Porkens]

Morph is keeping their hands clean. Dan is the second sacrifice, either today or tomorrow.

Morph even told us: "if chickadee is town, target dan tonight and lynch dan tomorrow. "

[Porkens]

Something smart, did you visit morph? Chickadee, anything to add? Which of these is most plausible?

[Porkens]

I don't recall taunting you to vote Dan. Or anyone, for that matter.

You've done plenty of taunting US to vote Chickadee.

ISO yourself and tell me you don't see where you double dog dared me to lolhammer.

[Porkens]

Porkens, I don't think I will ever understand your train of thought.

I don't have anything to add at this point. Either I die or I don't. If I don't, I double down and look at everything again.

Chickadee, Hi

I want to know which of these is most likely:
1. Chickadee and Dan are scum
2. Dan and Randomidget are scum
3. Porkens and morph are scum
4. Morph and Dan are scum

Also, I wonder why you don't think you have anything to add?

[Porkens]

Okay for now at least.

Does anyone want to claim a visit on morph last night?

not that this needs to be said, but no one should answer this at this time.

I think the person who visited morph should claim, because I see what could be a thread poking out and I wanna tug it a little

[Porkens]

Porkens, I don't think I will ever understand your train of thought.

I don't have anything to add at this point. Either I die or I don't. If I don't, I double down and look at everything again.

Also, I'll be glad to answer any questions or points of clarifications you have.

I offer new theories when they occur to me. I understand it's off putting.

[Porkens]

I don't recall taunting you to vote Dan. Or anyone, for that matter.

You've done plenty of taunting US to vote Chickadee.

ISO yourself and tell me you don't see where you double dog dared me to lolhammer.

Our iso is embarrassingly long. Can you give me a search term that should bring it up? We've mentioned or quoted both you and chickadee a lot.

I know, I've isod you several times. It was right after you put dan at l-1 but I think before you lied about which head was posting

[Porkens]

Off6opic: does one head post more often when you roll scum?

[Porkens]

In kidney mafia RC drove his 3rd party partner crazy trying to scumside. Almost lost the game for them.
I'm not surprised if they actually chose that strat. If morph wants to sweep it, why try too hard? Get lynched day 1 and day 2 and let morph take the victory lap.

[Porkens]

Porkens, I don't think I will ever understand your train of thought.

I don't have anything to add at this point. Either I die or I don't. If I don't, I double down and look at everything again.

i changed my mind. I really don't want to lynch chickadee today.

Morph has been pinging me on a tinfoil hat level all game.

It's going overload now.

I don't actually think it's morph and dan.

I think it's morph and...someone else. Not dan. Not chickadee. Aybe, PROBABLY, something smart.

[Porkens]

I really don't think it's Dan, but fine. I trust you. Chickadee, my e's are a'd.

VOTE: actiondan

[Porkens]

Ps morph just called me a poisoner.
And I think whymaf planted a confirmation soft.

[Porkens]

Of course there's a non-zero chance porkens just lolhammers dan or something now but whatever

This?

Pretty sure that wasn't meant as a dare.

If that's what scared you away from the wagon, I'll take it. I would have been exceedingly pissed if the day had ended so soon.

Your accusation of my lying about which of us posted something is also noted, and is even more lacking in basis. There are rare times when we don't clarify who posted what when asked, but we don't take ownership of each others' posts. This is the same kind of accusation that wrecked my mood on day 1.

good night.

Yeah, that.

So end day 2.

[Porkens]

I have reasons to scumread and townread both wagons.

Of course there's a non-zero chance porkens just lolhammers dan or something now but whatever

NB4 pokrens makes ham out of dan

Here's the offer I'm gonna throw out.

We lynch adan today after running through your hoops.

From tonight onward you are treated like a leashed SK.

If I'm alive, you answer to me. If I'm dead, you answer to S_S. If we're both dead, you answer to Dunnstraal.

And you have to die before lylo to confirm any of your "clears" either via lynch of if there's a vig out there.

Any deviation from your orders on who to target/clear/confirm/etc is an immediate scum claim and will be murdered with extreme prejudice.

Two different heads yo.

And in this case; the flight in question is united out of ohare.....


So sorta gotta be early lest I get united's customer service to the face.

"getting on a plane" didn't mean right that second, more that I was paying less attention as i travel.

The blue line is slooooooooow.


Both heads usually spring for in-flight wifi anyways.

Were those posts from different heads or not?

Those posts were all one head. The head that's traveling today.

This head has been in tablet acquisition mode for the last couple hours.

Morph gets offended when I'm scumreading them and calling them out.

[Porkens]

Ps morph just called me a poisoner.
And I think whymaf planted a confirmation soft.

The hell we did.

Shutting the damn computer down. Now.

You we need to remember that poisoner is in the game, why?

[Porkens]

Maybe the other he'd will talk to me

[Porkens]

Oh my god YOU HAVE A ROLECOP

[Porkens]

Pork, you better shape up your play really quick or we will be forced to wagon you. This is unacceptable. You're not helping town at all.

Try.

[Porkens]

If you roleblocked chick, we lynch her

Ok!

Vote: Chickadee

[Porkens]

Ps morph just called me a poisoner.
And I think whymaf planted a confirmation soft.

The hell we did.

Shutting the damn computer down. Now.

You we need to remember that poisoner is in the game, why?

On a side note regarding the lack of a kill last night --

we doubt it is very likely

, but ffery did run some mod meta and both heads of the mod hydra participated as players in a game that had a scum poisoner. Lucky2u was poisoned in the game.

We ought to keep that in mind as well.

Because although it's unlikely, it is a possibility that could explain the lack of night kill on night 1. e.g. maybe there was a kill but it's delayed. If the theory is actuality, then it should become apparent at the end of this game day or the beginning of day 3. Probably the former given how I've seen poisoner work in past games.

You like to spitball wild and tinfoil hat theories. You can damn well tolerate some wild-ass theory from other players.

OK, so, I agree that poisoner would be a reason for the no kill. If so, who is the poisoner Morph?

[Porkens]

And if there IS a poisoner, did I really roleblock?

[Porkens]

Ok

vote: actiondan

[Porkens]

ok

vote: chickadee

[Porkens]

Vote: ActionDan

Dearest Chickadee,

Apologies for your untimely demise. If you could rise up from your grave and make porkens keep his vote on scum instead of bouncing around every time he gets bored, that would be awesome and I'll bake you a pie.

Yours,

Morph the Cat

Says the hammer.

[Porkens]

Meh? I am "meh?"

Explain yourself

[Porkens]

I support massclaiming

[Porkens]

Morph, total lucid honesty here.
I'm really afraid that you are scum and gambitted with MKA.

Please hit scum today.

[Porkens]

Who have you targeted?

[Porkens]

There is no fucking way that's true.

Sounds good to me.

Vote: Dan

[Porkens]

I demand a redo.

[Porkens]

;(

[Porkens]

SICK play Morph. Just sick. TOO good.