Open 698: Stack the Deck (GAME OVER)

[ironstove]

Hello, I rolled town this game.

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What's up peeps, someone want to give me a tl;dr over the last 10 pages so I don't have to read through? I'd really appreciate it.

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A little more details please, like names and URLs (Uniform Resource Locator or Link) to posts as references along with snippets giving your thoughts on their significance for gaining mention.

TY!!!!

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Someone tell me who I should vote for

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I don't formulate my own reads, I'm a dog. I listen to people.

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Hello, this is dog.

Good-bye.

Wake me up when it's day 2.

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Guys, don't hate me, I am man's (your) best friend.

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According to my calculations, there is a 7.6% chance each of you are scum.

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I'll hammer whoever you guys want, send me in coach!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_KJAg8bHI

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Is it night yet? No, it's not.

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List of the living plz

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I have a feeling many of you don't understand how much work goes into my process of picking the perfect watermelon when I am shopping at the supermarket.

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Unabomb is ez scum.

VOTE: Unabomb

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Everyone please lynch unabomb before sunday

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Yea, I'll post up a reads list sometime after you lynch una.

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Well duh. Where else would they be???

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Sorry, that was rude. I agree with what you said.

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lynch una then maybe chip n butts.

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That's pretty much my vote for today. Wake me up on D3 if I'm not dead.

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luca, if my vote on una is lazy then show me what a non-lazy vote on una looks like.

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I think ironstove is lock town. I also don't think you should shoot him. He's not old yeller.

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Nicely improvised blade runner quote.

So, my take on the whole interaction between mulch vs chip and butts is that they're not both scum.

I think flipping una will provide information based on who supported and resisted it. I see two potential groups forming based on una's flip.

My fear is that if una flips town, this makes me look bad because I was the first to vote for him and pushed for his lynch. I don't think he's town though.

So if una flips scum, I would think mulch, commknight, or realo could be scum based on amount of resistance generated by them to save una.

If una flips town, I'm not sure. I could see alchemist, chip and butts, or assemble being in the scum group.

I think commknight's 792 trying to direct the vig shot is something I generally see scum players trying to do. Town players who do this tend to be big-dick type players but comm has not really played in that style, so it appears to be more motivated from the standpoint of a scum trying to get vig to shoot town/not shoot scum.

So with that said, if una flips scum, I'm feeling a commknight lynch and one could make the point that chip and I are most likely town because of this 'attempt' to direct the vig.

Tell me if anything I said sounds crazy. I don't think so, I don't have rabies.

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Clarification: When I say both mulch and chip are not both scum, I mean they're not both scum. i.e. I'm not implying that it is not possible that they're both town as well, but I definitely don't think that was a scum v scum interaction. Either scum v town, or town v town, so at least we know if one happens to be flipped as scum at some point in this game then that should auto clear the other FMPOV.

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So thus far, I'm down to lynch una, comm, or assemble. I think realeo made a good point about assemble in 850

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Eh, actually I changed my mind. I think mulch is scum now. I read through his ISO and his previous games as town and scum. I have to agree this is scum mulch.

I was initially set off by how easily mulch jumped on the una wagon, then swapped his vote to chip.

To me, that felt pretty superficial, so it triggered me into checking his other topics. I looked through several games of which two I found he rolled scum i.e. mini 1929 and micro 735.

Anyway, I think what chip says is true, mulch takes on a more aggressive tone in scum games than as town, in which this seems to be the case.

If mulch flips scum, I am town clearing una and chip.

Also, I'd like commknight to provide an explanation for why he thinks grapes should be shot if una is scum and luca should be shot if una is town. How are you drawing that association between those players? I'd like you to break down your thought process on why that is the case.

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VOTE: mulch

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I mean, then again would scum really pull off such an OMGUS back to someone scum reading them? IDK. LOL that seems pretty towny too. So... mulch or comm I think. I won't spend too much time lingering on the minutiae

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yawn

VOTE: ironstove

I never jumped on the una wagon. Lying in order to justify a scumread, and lying about meta.

You literally post this after I say we should vote for una:

VOTE: Unabombah


Sorry Una...

How's that not jumping on a wagon?

Two flat out blatant lies. I can’t fathom how someone could be town with this.

What's the second 'lie'? The meta read? Really? But it's not. I went through your scum and town games, you're definitely more calm and laid back in tone when you roll as town.

Regarding 'can't believe town would do such a thing so you must not be town' :

What's not to believe? You new? No, actually you're not new. You've played on this site for some time now and you should understand town/scum meta at this point. You seem to at least, so... I'd say your statement about 'can't fathom how a town can do X' pretty much sums up my point nicely.

Do you really believe I'm scum? Like, how you thought chip was scum? Who is more scum, me, una, or chip? I just want to get a feel for how much conviction you actually have for your votes.

You literally said you were going to scumread me if Una flipped scum, because i put resistance. Then you said that you were scum reading me for how quickly I jumped on the una wagon.

LIE.

Yea, I said that previously then I changed my mind if you'll be so kind as to read the post above yours where I mentioned I changed my mind and explained the reasons why I changed my mind.

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What you said honestly doesn't make sense try again.

Why is grapes the shot if unable flips scum?

Why is Luca the shot if he flips town?

Never said you were bussing him, where did I say that? I didnt

Reading comprehension, do you have it? No. Clearly not because you are reading words I didn't write.

QUOTE me next time if you're going to try to quote me lol.

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You jumped on it before you put resistance. Are you really dumb or just twisting my words? I'll give you slack for both the former and the latter.

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How about this, I'll admit to being wrong about meta reading you if you turn out to be town. Because like, that's the only way to falsify my hypothesis.

Cuz we all know even if I was right, you'd be saying exactly what you're saying now so it doesn't really mean much, right? We can at least agree on that.

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Your hypothesis was two selective scum games in which I was aggressive, not even reading any more scum games or taking into account my town games. That's a scum meta analysis

I did read your town games. Read my post again.

Link me to more of your scum games. I spent over 40 min reading thru your isos, plz don't talk like you know anything about me or say what I wrote is a lie you only look like an imbecile by doing so. You have hands and you know how to link proof. If I'm wrong then show me I'm wrong. It's that simple.

Screaming that I'm a little liar and voting me doesn't change my mind a bit but it does make me feel like you're only doing it to make yourself look like a victim and like I'm trying to weave together some elaborate lie to get you lynched.

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Your hypothesis was two selective scum games in which I was aggressive, not even reading any more scum games or taking into account my town games. That's a scum meta analysis

I did read your town games. Read my post again.

Link me to more of your scum games. I spent over 40 min reading thru your isos, plz don't talk like you know anything about me or say what I wrote is a lie you only look like an imbecile by doing so. You have hands and you know how to link proof. If I'm wrong then show me I'm wrong. It's that simple.

Screaming that I'm a little liar and voting me doesn't change my mind a bit but it does make me feel like you're only doing it to make yourself look like a victim and like I'm trying to weave together some elaborate lie to get you lynched.

You mentioned two scum games, and are using appeal to emotion now. And wants to lynch me to test a hypothesis. This is so scum..

I made mention of two scum games but I said I read through your town games. The contrast in tone is very clear. As I said just stop talking and link me to other games to prove me wrong I'll examine whatever you submit and take it unto consideration in how I make my decision

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Reason I mention the scum games is because it is easy to find town games as it is the majority of your rolls but I had to click thru multiple links to get to the scum so I made mention of it to save others time if they are willing to check what I said

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How many should I find? If your scum games have a clear tone difference between town and that tone matches this game, should I read 20 more to verify that? Uh no.

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Anyway your response and reaction has made me feel more confident in my scum read of your slot, so I'm feeling good about keeping my vote on you for now. I'll be back later, cheers.

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As mentioned if you don't agree with my meta read just link me games when you get a chance, we're just going in circles of you saying in a liar and me asking you to prove it.

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I think the conclusion here is that commknight is scum.

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mulch are you gonna link your games or what

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so una, you're basically saying i'm scum and mulch is town?

are you confident mulch vs me was scum vs town? or are you just saying that to talk?

i'm trying to understand what you feel confident about because it sounds like a load of bullshit coming out of you.

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Yea, I don't town read una, still not sure about the slot. I haven't seen anything that pings me as town.

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I'll read through those games later, mulch.

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I'm ready to change my vote to una

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i'm a little confused by that awful ms paint picture. So, who is your strongest scum read atm realo?

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chip - town
real -town
mulch - town
luca - town
grapes - town
assemble - scum
comm - ?scum???
una - ?town???
alchemist - ???

VOTE: assemble

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ck is verified scum. assumble + ck are scum.

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CK is scum because I feel it in my doggy gut. He's one of the players I do not town read, and I sense no type of conviction in his tone which makes me feel like he's just making stuff up on the spot.

Also, the post he made which I highlighted earlier about directing vig shots felt like it had nefarious intentions.

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I keep mixing up alchemist and assemble... Anyway, my vote is on assemble. I'm 100% OK with switching to CK as well at this point. Lynch either of these two, I'm ok with it.

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I have a theory that people who use excessive coloring on their posts are really scum. This is something I've noticed in past games on MS.

Not to say I read chip as scum atm more than assemble, but it's just a theory I'd have which I'd be interested to see if it's true when the game is over so I'm making note of it right now.

I don't have anything else to add, so.... I guess I'm waiting for the day to end.

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I was referring to 1118 btw.

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what good is mass claim going to do us here?

so... brain dead lynch vote here:

VOTE: commknight

come town, join me. If I'm right we lynch scum, if I'm wrong we lose together as a team.

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Time for a massclaim. Scummy people go first and then popcorn

really, explain why it's time for a mass claim?

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like, the logic is just flying right over my head. it looks like you're just trying to flush out vig.

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I literally just fucking played a game #697 where that autistic kid lang demanded for 8 pages that all the PRs mass claim which ended up with 1. scum winning 2. PRs dying one after another 3. lang being mislynched

Oh btw, I can call him an autist because the fucking idiot is banned

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The fact that you were just in that game to witness how effective that strategy was for scum to win, and now you're in this game and pushing for the exact same strategy is literally just making me tap dance back to my scum read of you, so LIKE, JUST PLEASE GIVE ME A GOOD REASON SO I CAN FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE SCUM OR NOT.

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oh well, gg

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I'm totally fine with the game and how I played.

Based on the scum team, Luca would have won the game.

I just sped the outcome.

We might have gotten alch or Mulch but Luca was being town read by too many ppl for it to matter. You're delusional if you think we had a chance of winning

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Also I have no intention to change my playstyle. It is within the rules of the site. Previously being engaged and overly invested in a game led to me getting angry at players that didnt read the game so I'm just doing more of the same to prevent myself from getting mad and banned

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Also I have no intention to change my playstyle. It is within the rules of the site. Previously being engaged and overly invested in a game led to me getting angry at players that didnt read the game so I'm just doing more of the same to prevent myself from getting mad and banned

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throwing the game implies i tried to lose the game, which was not the case. i was trying to win, but i ended up losing. that's part of the game.