Mini 1942 - Switchboard 2 [Game Over]

[BlackVoid]

Okay, it's going to take me a little while to fully wrap my head around the game mechanics. There are six town roles listed in the OP. Does that mean that everyone who is uncounterclaimed as those roles are all confirmed town?

I'm heading to work in ten minutes but I'll start reading the game when I come back tonight.

[BlackVoid]

Maybe I'm misreading the setup but if it's an open game with 6PRs and 4VTs, wouldn't the game be broken by a massclaim on D1? If scum claim any of the roles, you have enough lynches to lynch all the cc's. If they all claim VT, then all the six PRs are conf-town in a thirteen player game which is as good as broken.

[BlackVoid]

I suppose so. I'll be here around midnight if anyone wants to talk in real time. Especially IAI, it's been a while man!

[BlackVoid]

Was really tired today. Going to start catching up now. Nobody claim please until I catch up.

[BlackVoid]

No. The worst case scenario is 5 VT vs. 8 PRs

Scum knows who the real PRs are, we don't. We also don't have any way to verify without any action history so far.

I'd prefer NOT to have a 50/50 shot at mislynching a PR

Oh man, I wish I was here to debunk RadicalRat's claims. In this event, you simply have the scummiest "PR's" full claim until you get two sets of counterclaims. Worst case scenario, both PR's get lynched before their corresponding scum counterclaimer. Even then, you end up with 7 players which includes 2 conf-town and a five player pool which contains one mafia. Not at all a bad scenario especially since you have interactive tells and some night actions to help. And that's the worst case scenario.

Also, I don't think we should have Nos decide the order. Sorry about the delay but I'm catching up and will be caught up soon.

@IAI, who do you think is Nos's partner, why?

@Creature, who do you want to lynch? Without claims, what are your reads looking like?

[BlackVoid]

Actually, my numbers were off. We'd end up with five players and one scum with no PRs alive. But that's still a fairly good scenario and that's the worst case.

[BlackVoid]

Okay, I've read through the first fifteen pages (half of D1) and it's going to take a while to get through the whole thing. I'd rather not hold up the game so if you guys really need the claims done before you post anything, that's cool.

@Keychain, claim first please. I'll post my reads and reasons after claims are done.

[BlackVoid]

PS - For all those still doubting it, please note that Nos has yet to say if his switch is on or off, nor has he told us any of his supposed JK targets. Just ISO him today and tell me he is town. I dare you to find anything representing that.

Yeah, I want to know this too and have Nos full claim all role information.

I'm still thinking about the best way to go about this. I certainly think Creature is the easiest to read out of all four of you. Initial impression is that you/Creature are town and Nos/Keychain are the scumteam but that's based on a very cursory read of the thread and I could be entirely wrong there.

Setting aside the idea that if we trust you and lynch Nos, we win, which of Creature or Keychain do you think is likelier to be scum?

[BlackVoid]

Why are you concealing your JK targets and switch state?

[BlackVoid]

@Creature, who do you trust more, IAI or Nos?

[BlackVoid]

Question for IAI: do you think Creature's play here is similar to his play in mhsmith's game that we all played together?

[BlackVoid]

Can you please claim your targets?

[BlackVoid]

So, the possibilities are: Key/Nos, Creature/Nos, Key/IAI. I'm going to continue reading the game tonight but I still think I want to lynch Keychain. But don't hammer too soon. I'm going to use the time this day phase to lay out a full analysis of the game.

I'm not ready to decide between IAI/Nos without reading the game.

[BlackVoid]

I have strong town reads on both so I really wish it didn't have to go down this way.

Well this game got easier, cause if Key doesn't switch to Nos she scum claims at this point. So if you and BV hop over, we win.

But you/Keychain is still possible though. Asking us to jump on seems a bit premature. I don't want to rush right now.

[BlackVoid]

Actually in a hypothetical world where IAI/Creature is the team, it still makes sense not to hammer because you don't know Nosferatu's switch state or priority level and if he stops a kill, the quickhammer would give you away.

[BlackVoid]

My gut really sucks so I don't like trusting it. I do best when I can lay out and analyze the game from all perspectives. Nos is irritating me so I want him to be the scum but I'm aware I might be a bit biased here. I feel a lot more confident in Creature being town just because he's not really great at scum so if we lynch Keychain, we get a guaranteed scum today and then I can use that info to figure which of you or Nos makes more sense as a partner.

[BlackVoid]

To read you obviously. I'm not going to tell you why before you answer the actual question as that takes away from the whole point of asking in the first place.

[BlackVoid]

What benefit do you think town gets from you not fullclaiming?

You are cc'ing IAI which means you want him lynched. That's never happening without you claiming your entire role and your actions and I really hope I don't need to explain why when you counterclaim someone, you need to lay out all your info for the rest of the town to make the best informed decision.

[BlackVoid]

And because I might change my mind and just vote to lynch you today if you don't. That's reason enough to fullclaim if you are town.

[BlackVoid]

if moz flips town, actually powerlynch me tomorrow.

Why wasn't this followed through with?

[BlackVoid]

Still say we should lynch KeyChain or me. Even if we do lynch wrong, the jailkeeper may still stop a kill.

Why is lynching you even an option here? Keychain is at L-1 and I said I'd vote her so it doesn't look like you are getting lynched at all.

And I think I missed it but what exactly was Nos' scumslip?

[BlackVoid]

I read most of D1 and really hate how the Moz lynch went down. He was the only person who seemed to be on the right track suspecting Flubbernugget and the currently unconfirmed players. I don't like Nosferatu's push on him, or the switch to my predecessor or his 566. Nothing about Moz/Allo interactions looked like bussing. It just seemed like a justification Nos pulled out to pre-emptively explain why his two "scumreads" are going after each other when normally town would be re-evaluating at that point.

@Nos, explain everything you know from your role. What is your priority number? Who did you toggle on/off the past three nights? How did your on/off switch change through the game i.e. did you begin on or off and how did it change each night. Who did you JK the first two nights? I don't want random answers, I want the real ones.

[BlackVoid]

And explain why you thought Moz was bussing Allomancer as opposed to thinking you were wrong on one of them.

[BlackVoid]

I skimmed over 580 because it was horribly formatted but it was actually a very good post. I had the same thought when I first saw Nosferatu's vote on Mozamis and then suddenly him being able to post a case.

[BlackVoid]

Why didn't you switch yourself on each night instead of just last night? If you didn't target anyone the first night or second because your switch was off, what made you suddenly decide to target Fitz last night despite your switch remaining off?

[BlackVoid]

654 is another really good post. Probably points to Creature being town and unlikely to be in a scumteam with Nos.

[BlackVoid]

Okay, I finished D1 and it's a little sad to see people calling Mozamis a bad town player. He's the only one who was on-track suspecting mostly the flipped scum and the currently unconfirmed players. It's the rest of the town that dropped the ball D1 by lynching him.

Any objections to me hammering Keychain?

[BlackVoid]

I'm really not sure between IAI and Nos and Creature is not really as town to me as he usually is but out of the four, I prefer going with keychain.

[BlackVoid]

VOTE: keychain

[BlackVoid]

I think Mjoll was town and Creature is town. Keychain is my best guess. Sorry if I'm wrong but I doubt it.

[BlackVoid]

Did the mod confirm to you the night before that your switch state was on?

[BlackVoid]

You turned yourself on N3. Did the mod send you a confirmation PM that your switch state was on?

[BlackVoid]

Also, I'm wondering what are the odds that the mafia have a one-shot extra kill and used it on one of Aubrey/Fitz?

[BlackVoid]

How would you know that for sure?

[BlackVoid]

Actually, never mind. Their kill would fail if they targeted Fitz directly.

This was from the first Switchboard game:

Extremely Important Notice:

One line didn't make it into any of your guy's Role PM:

Mass Panic: In the case that all switches are on at the same time, your faction receives the ability to perform a second kill.

But that's probably not the case here. Ignore what I said.

[BlackVoid]

Alright, since you both claimed, I'm going to lay my cards on the table:

My priority level is five. My switch state became On at the beginning of D2. It was turned Off at the beginning of D3.
My predecessor didn't submit an action N1. He toggled Off Nosferatu on N2 and N3. I turned myself back on N4.

Nos's claims match up with what I know although I have no idea if that's alignment indicative.

[BlackVoid]

@IAI, I'm not sure I understand the reason behind your gambit. Why were you so particular about wanting to get Nos lynched D4 that you'd give town wrong info? If you are town and you get lynched, it's game over. That doesn't change whether you got lynched last DP or this DP. You also need to correctly lynch out of Creature/Keychain to win the game and that doesn't change either. Why did the order matter so much? If anything, the opposite makes more sense: if you saw votes on you and people not trusting you because Fitz crumb, then it makes more sense to scumhunt in Creature/Keychain, lynch scum and hope town get more info to clear you/condemn Nos. It does feel like you knew Keychain being flipped would set you back and tried going for the win yesterday whereas Nos was very willing to vote Keychain. Also, your play D4 makes sense if you were truly turned on and it would have been auto-win if we lynched Nos. But knowing you were turned off, your refusal to scumhunt much within Creature/Keychain makes much less sense.

[BlackVoid]

From a you-scum perspective, the explanation would be that you said you were turned on because you wanted to lynch Nos and win. But when you realized Keychain was getting lynched instead and that would lead to auto-loss, you said it was a gambit and you were turned off after all so you have the chance to avoid auto-loss. That seems a lot more straightforward.

[BlackVoid]

VOTE: fitz

Why did you choose to vote Fitz over Flubber here?

[BlackVoid]

ok if I had to guess, I think that IAI is the goon and mjoll was the roleblocker

luv then key then creature should claim

can we just get on with it

How did Creature go from your biggest suspect to biggest townread in the span of a page?

[BlackVoid]

@IAI, Nos, did either of you crumb your role in any way? @Nos, in 1431, why did you assume your switch was on even if the mod didn't confirm anything? Looks like everytime your switch state changes, the mod tells you.

[BlackVoid]

It's actually the opposite. I was hoping to keep it between nos and myself so I'd be confirmed town. That was why I wanted to avoid creature/keychain. Having to explain the gambit is much easier once you win the 1 vs 1 and become confirmed town.

Key and nos came at me very quickly. When nos faked CC I thought I knew that scum was going all in on me. Which is why I tried the gambit, figured I had nothing to lose.

I still don't understand. If you're town, you need to do two things to win. a) Out-debate Nos. b) Pick correctly between Creature and Keychain. The order doesn't really matter and if anything, doing B first will give you a better chance of winning A. But you were really, really focused on doing A first. You already knew Nos was scum so lynching him doesn't really make a difference as far as looking for partner-interactions go.

[BlackVoid]

It was MyLo yesterday. Why would scum want to put all their eggs in one basket? Why would I only want to lynch Nos when from a scum perspective I would have had two options for a win? And why would scum IAI have his teammate Key push the hardest on him in MyLo rather than have them keep their options open?

It doesn't line up. What does is:

1) the hard push by both of them on me
2) the lack of Nos to give any info on night actions before the mass claim
3) the pushback to give info on night actions after the claim
4) saying he hid behind fitz and then later saying on no I was wrong my switch was off
5) the back and forth distance vote on key and vote on me yesterday
6) nos wanting to push the mass claim, and as soon as key was asked to go first he wanted to slow it down, even came up with his own order where lil went before key
7) saying his switch was on again for N4 yet lied again

Srsly read nos play D4 again with the assumption he is scum. It's pretty obvious he is teammates with key.

I don't think there was any realistic chance of Creature being mislynched here. If we were going to lynch in {Creature, Keychain}, it was always Keychain that was getting lynched so I wouldn't say you had two options for a win. Your only real shot would have been to divert the lynch onto Nos.

If you are scum with Keychain, then I think she'd have seen Fitz's crumb as a guilty and thought it was a huge risk not to bus at that point. Also, pushing each other is the opposite of putting all your eggs in one basket - I think if one of you flipped, the other would want to look good.

I asked Nos questions about his D4 and I'll wait for his response. But why does your entire case on him rest solely on D4 stuff?

I read through the entire game and his interactions with the flipped scum are actually a lot better than yours. While you were tunneling Realeo D2, he was voting Flubbernugget, the counterwagon. Keychain spent most of the early D2 tunneling him, and then he broke down completely (923 and 925) and then Keychain unvoted. It's hard to see all that as theater. Looks more like Keychain was tunneling a townie and backed off almost because she felt bad (929)?

[BlackVoid]

Once I did the gambit I was like oh crap if we successfully do b) and then someone dies I am going to be autolynched for the loss. I'd rather KEEP it on me/nos and become confirmed town then do b).

If you're talking pre gambit, I had someone point out a supposed crumb, got two quick votes and a fake CC, and looking back may have panicked with the fake gambit. It seemed like a good move. Nos did tighten up at that point.

So, you did a gambit where you locked yourself into getting auto-lynched if we successfully lynched scum outside of the you/Nos pair? I don't see the utility there.

But I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on D1/D2. You never really pushed any of the scum and focused almost exclusively on town. Would you say you were having an off-game here and is there a reason why? Your accuracy rate as town is normally much higher. You were majorly responsible for both town lynches and I don't think you spent much time at all focusing on any of Flubber/Keychain/Nos throughout the game.

[BlackVoid]

I don't really understand why you were never able to recognize that Realeo/Mozamis were town. They both had a very townie frustration to them which reminded me of Kairal in that musical mafia game we played together where you picked up on him being town and talked me into it when I wasn't very sure.

[BlackVoid]

What do you think, Creature?

[BlackVoid]

Yeah, I'm leaning that way as well. Did you read the previous days of the game?

And yeah, that's another point against IAI. Nos knew I would vote Keychain. He had no reason to think IAI was gambiting.

[BlackVoid]

For towncred in case you flipped. If you managed to turn the tide against Nos by getting a couple of town votes, she could always quickhammer - in fact, that would be optimal.

But I'll look over the whole game again. If you're town, help me see it through the lens of Nos being scum with Flubber/Fish and Keychain throughout the game because that's where I'm hung up on.

Btw, when was the last time you were scum, IAI? I can't find any recent scumgames to look at.

[BlackVoid]

I have a lot to say but I want to see Nos's response to that before I post my thoughts there.

[BlackVoid]

Things to do today:
1. ISO all the dead scum and Nos and IAI.
2. Vote IAI
3. Go back to bed

[BlackVoid]

Still reading and thinking about the game. I'll make a wall tomorrow about where I'm at and we can go from there.

[BlackVoid]

Response to IAI coming but Nos, I really need these questions answered:

Tell me exactly why you weren't willing to fullclaim when I asked. How did you think doing that would help scum? Why did you want Creature to claim last in 1348 despite not already having him as a townread? What were you doing the second night that you weren't able to get to a computer?

[BlackVoid]

Okay, I've thought about it and here's why I'm voting IAI:

1. The gambit. This is a pretty major reason. As I mentioned, it makes a lot of sense to do as scum and very little to do as town. If IAI was town cc'd by scum, seemingly implicated by a hider guilty, and thinks Keychain is trying to get him lynched, it makes more sense, not less to scumhunt within Keychain/Creature and once Keychain is lynched, use the fact that Keychain was trying to lynch him as evidence that he's town. But IAI was so unwilling to lynch within Keychain/Creature to the point where he lied to the town to get a lynch within himself and Nos. As scum, this makes a lot of sense since he doesn't know Nos' switch state and Keychain is more likely to endgame than him. The explanations are just not adding up for me (I'll go into this at the end of the post).

2. Fitz's last post. I'm not taking this as a 100% conclusive evidence that Fitz definitely hid behind IAI but it's the best clue he's given us about where he intends to hide. I see IAI's argument about Fitz's last post not being meaningful because if they're both alive, IAI would be conf-town to Fitz and therefore not needing to be questioned. But how else could Fitz crumb at this point? He can't make a really obvious crumb like "lynch IAI if I die" because scum know there's a hider in the game and will figure out the crumb easily. I think he was trying to vaguely throw out his target in the best way he could.

3. Priority level - This is my weakest and least significant reason but I can't help thinking that with two scum having relatively low priorities, game balance would dictate that one scum at least should have a high priority and IAI being priority number one fits. Priorities were assigned semi-randomly and it seems like the sort of thing the mod might do after quickly skimming his past switchboard game. This doesn't affect my decision hugely though but it would be interesting to see if I'm right.

4. Formerfish/Flubber interactions - There's nothing that points strongly to either here but I thought 376 towards IAI looked mildly partner-y and like typical distancing that's not followed up on, especially the "I disagree" tone. I think scum just love to "disagree" with each other.

5. Keychain interactions - Much more telling. Keychain tunneled Nos all of early D2 and only let up when Nos started bringing up personal stuff in response and I think it would a low blow to fake all that with a partner. He can't be scum and genuinely feel all that when Keychain was pushing him because they're on the same team. Keychain's IAI push came only after Fitz's flip and I can easily see that as a bussing ploy where if one of them are lynched, the other gets cleared. Nos never pushed Keychain, it's true but Keychain was pushing Nos very convincingly and I think Nos was under the impression that he was being pushed by a fellow townie. 462 and 542 read like mild distancing with low followup.

Overall, I'm also a bit underwhelmed by IAI's focus this game, the Moz lynch was bad. The Realeo lynch was bad. IAI was leading both those lynches. I'm not going solely on proficiency but I think for a generally accurate scumhunter like IAI, repeatedly getting it wrong can be added evidence of being scum in addition to other things. I also think, given our history of working well together in three previous games as town, you should have been more willing to come clean with me and let me evaluate all the evidence instead of continuing to gambit and forcing me to choose based on wrong info. Your reveal of the gambit actually seemed more like a last-minute decision to back out because you knew that with a Keychain scumlynch, you'd be next if you didn't do something drastic.

Moving on, here are my responses to your latest posts:

A) Nos had his vote on Flubber for most of D2 when it was competing with the Realeo wagon which you were hard-pushing so I'm not inclined to see it as a distancing ploy more than town-Nos just suspecting Flubber. Pressure-voting a lurky slot isn't telling regardless of the alignment of that slot. I don't think him saying it was Chickadee's scumread is damning at all? If anything, scum would want to present a scumread on their buddy as their own for maximum cred. Nullreading a lurky slot isn't scummy either.

B) The unvote by Key seemed more to me like she either genuinely felt bad pushing Nos while he was in that state or simply thought that she could no longer convincingly sell a Nos scumread after his breakdown (can't think of a better word here) so was forced to back off. That's a more likely explanation than them deciding "you push me, I'll breakdown in thread, then you back off and people will think we're both town!"

C) I actually don't see what's different about Flubber's play here compared with Musical Mafia. I was scumreading him while spectating for similar reasons: low activity and bad pushes. What did he not seem to care about, he was pushing Aubrey pretty hard. Given you correctly nailed Aubrey as town, not looking in Flubber's direction is weird especially when Realeo pushing your townread Fitz made him scummy in your eyes. Even if you were "wary" of Key, you never made a push there focusing instead of pushing back on Mozamis and Realeo when they pushed you.

D) Nos leaving his vote on Flubber over Fitz makes sense from a town perspective because Flubber was the counterwagon to Realeo and the only one which seemed plausible. Fitz wasn't going to get lynched. He did vote Fitz the following day though.

E) Finally, the most important thing: his "lies." When I turned my switch on last night, the mod sent me a PM at daystart saying that my switch state was on and when I asked if I'd get that message if the switch state remained off, he said I wouldn't. I could see Nos turning himself on and thinking that he was on despite the mod not saying anything and only realizing now that he was off. So, I see it more as a mistake than a lie. Regarding Lie #2, it seems he did target Fitz not knowing his switch was off and then the mod told him that it was. I asked the mod what would happen in that case. Sorry but his mistakes seem plausible and not actually "lies" whereas your gambit had clear scum motivation and I can't for the life of me understand what you were hoping to get from it as town.

I just don't buy that you as town were selling me a completely false scenario of not having to choose between Key and Creature if we lynch Nos and he's scum and that we auto-win.

VOTE: I am Innocent

I've made up my mind but if you want to respond before Creature votes and somehow change my mind, I haven't really closed off. Creature can feel free to vote whenever.

[BlackVoid]

UNVOTE:

@Nos, how weren't you able to get to a computer to put in a night action N2? It lasted from Friday September 22nd to Monday September 25th. In that time frame, you made 57 posts on site. You then posted as soon as D3 opened to vote Fitz (just seven minutes after). How am I to believe you were hyperactive on site through N2 and didn't find time to get to a computer? If you were posting on your phone, I still can't imagine why you wouldn't send in a night action.

[BlackVoid]

How can you be so active and not find the time to read this thread? You were eagerly waiting for the thread to open so you could vote Fitz minutes after it opened.

Even if you didn't find time to read this thread, why wouldn't you just JK Fitz or something as deadline started creeping up? Why lie and say you couldn't get to a computer?

[BlackVoid]

So far I don't see how IAI gambit would make sense as town.

He claimed he would jail one of {me, KC} if Nos was lynched. However, any of us would still try to nightkill someone and IAI might falseclear the scum here.

I was planning on coming clean during twilight, at that point I would have been confirmed town and hopefully had figured out the last scum.

#backfired

But why even do the gambit in the first place?

If I understood correctly, you thought that since if you get lynched, it's game over anyways, might as well force the issue right then and if you survived, then you can scumhunt. But instead of presenting it like that, you lied and said you had a JK shot and misled us into thinking it was auto-win if we picked right. I don't see the benefit there at all. It's not like flipping Nos would help you with interaction tells because you already knew he was scum and could hunt for his partner right away. Flipping Nos' partner first though would give you more ammunition to use against Nos today. I know you explained it already but I still don't get it.

[BlackVoid]

Why would Nos vote Keychain when I clearly wanted to lynch her knowing that it would be auto-loss if IAI was telling the truth?

[BlackVoid]

@Creature, what do you think of Nos' N2 action?

[BlackVoid]

Here's what Nos' night actions look like:

N1 - Was off, wanted to see if someone would switch him on. They did.
D2 - Must have received notification that switch was on.
N2 - Doesn't submit a night action because he was "busy" despite posting all over the site and posting seven minutes after game start.
D3 - Mod tells him toggle switch is off. (My predecessor was responsible for this)
N3 - He submits action to toggle switch on.
D4 - No notification. (My predecessor turned his toggle switch off again and has higher priority so it remained off)
N4 - Submits JK Fitz.
D5 - No action was submitted.

@Nos, did you toggle anyone's switch on or off N4? Why/why not? And answer my questions in 1551 and 1553. Talk about how you missed your night action despite being active and why you lied about not being able to get to a computer.

[BlackVoid]

So, you toggled your own switch on N4?

[BlackVoid]

I don't get how you can find time to post over fifty times but not find time to post a simple "JK Fitz" as your night action. When the thread opened, you immediately voted Fitz so you had him in mind as your top suspect. And can you respond to 1551?

[BlackVoid]

Also, explain why IAI's interactions with flipped scum point towards him being scum.

[BlackVoid]

Why would you JK Fitz on N3 when you know your toggle switch was off?

[BlackVoid]

VOTE: I Am Innocent

Just don't see why Fitz as hider would specifically say he had "questions" for IAI the following day that were so important that he needed to say he had questions instead of just asking or waiting until the next day to ask. That, and the gambit is clearly scum-motivated. Interactive tells aren't conclusive but nothing rules out IAI/Flubber/Keychain. (Also, props to Mozamis for picking the team if this is right).

Heading off to work. Feel free to hammer whenever, Creature.

[BlackVoid]

The question was why you sent in an action to do so when you knew your switch was off.

[BlackVoid]

@Creature, I'm ready for a hammer whenever if you want.

[BlackVoid]

Somewhat plausible. There were times when I wanted to submit a night action but procrastinated and I can see him forgetting about it even though he was active on site. It's a little shady but I still think IAI's gambit and the crumb from Fitz outweighs that pretty heavily.

[BlackVoid]

I hope I'm not getting conf-biased here. Nos' push on Mazomis was super-bad and Mjollnir pointed out the biggest reason why. I don't know how he just out of the blue decided to vote Mozamis and retro-actively came up with a case despite not having read the thread and his night actions are somewhat dubious. But I still can't see why he'd just vote Keychain if he's scum when he had no reason to believe that IAI was gambiting and would think that a Keychain lynch would end the game with IAI JK'ing him and getting an extra mislynch. I think IAI scumreading Keychain but avoiding pushing there and trying to get us to lynch Nos fits more with scum motive. I can't understand the town logic behind it despite IAI explaining it a couple of times. @IAI - have you done a similar gambit before as town where you lie to achieve some objective? I also thought having no objections to my hammering Keychain was weird. If he wasn't sure between Keychain and Creature, he'd have objections to potentially ending the game. If he was sure, he'd be more willing to lynch Keychain and not refuse to even consider lynching from the Keychain/Creature pool entirely.

[BlackVoid]

Then there's the matter of Fitz's crumb. Why would he randomly state that he had questions for someone? That would just be a weird post. Then there's Kunkstar's previous game where he wanted at least one scum to have a high priority and game balance-wise, if all the scum have low-priority that screws them over. But take my balance-analysis with a grain of salt as I think most setups are townsided. Then there's interactions with Keychain where it seems like she was buddying Nos by calling him nearly conf-town and telling him to pick the order while bantering with IAI about him calling her a horse, treating him as nearly conf-scum, etc. While the scumteam could be going all out here, Key saying "me and Nos are the only ones to buy Fitz's crumb" fits better with IAI-scum than Nos-scum. There was also a protracted tunnel on Nos and Nos' reaction to it was genuine with no pushback on Keychain at all - I think scum would be tempted to do some mild distancing there. Then there's Formerfish's interactions with IAI that looked partner-y and IAI not catching Flubbernugget playing the same way he did in a previous scumgame is concerning. IAI hard-pushing two obvtown and leading their mislynches is also worrisome for a player of IAI's caliber and I'm not sold the application of "Syndesis tell" without considering the context. IAI in Musical Mafia also pointed out that Aj The Epic's lack of paranoia on him despite having a great scumgame was a reason he was scum. But flipping it around and pushing Mozamis simply for being paranoid doesn't sound like something IAI would do as town. I was hoping IAI was town here but every angle I look at it, the evidence all points to him as the final mafia.

[BlackVoid]

I have a lot to say. I do feel bad for the scumteam. When I read the setup closely, I initially thought I was missing something because six PRs in a game with a completely open setup was ridiculously townsided. Not to mention the Flubber's scumslip in thread made it impossible to come back from. Really impressed that they continued fighting against impossible odds. I honestly thought there was going to be a lot of complaining in the scum thread but then I saw none of that and just being supportive. With that said Kunkstar, I like the idea for the setup - would have been great as a closed game, especially if you modified your previous setup and ran another closed game.

I thought Keychain was very convincing and would have been very hard to catch if not for being in a cc with Creature. IAI was fantastic, left me unsure even when the evidence was stacking up. Way too many scum players tend to just get toxic and pass it off as good scumplay so it was great to watch

real

good scumplay for once. I think both of you would have easily endgamed in a more balanced setup with a similar playerlist.

On the town side, I'll say it again, great job Mozamis! Those were the best D1 reads I've seen anyone have in a while. Aubrey's reads were pretty on point too.

Also, @IAI, when I replaced in, I was actually hoping you were town here too and we'd lynch scum together again but unfortunately not.

[BlackVoid]

@Keychain, out of curiosity, why did you abruptly stop pushing Nos D2? I was considering the possibility of it being scum theater but decided against it and am wondering if I interpreted it right.