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[WhyMafia]

VOTE: desp

[WhyMafia]

im not sure desp is town but he play definitely is close to hebis in terms of scummy

id rather not lynch him

@Bins what do you mean by this. He's as scummy as Hebi?

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: fuzzy
Sold

[WhyMafia]

v/la

my internet is out

[WhyMafia]

how do you SR fuzzy and desp together, whymafia?

It's not like either of them actually tried getting other people to join their side. Tell me, did they ever make a case on each other that actually caused other people to vote the other?

[WhyMafia]

I don’t even know what’s going on anymore.

^
I just want a lynch on anyone other than Hebi

[WhyMafia]

Well I mean I could vote Hebi .. but I don't like the composition of the wagon

[WhyMafia]

how do you SR fuzzy and desp together, whymafia?

It's not like either of them actually tried getting other people to join their side. Tell me, did they ever make a case on each other that actually caused other people to vote the other?

this is 100% false w/r/t to me

fuzzy hasn't been trying to get anyone to do anything he wanted to do all game

You're agreeing with me ...?

[WhyMafia]

fuzzy hasn't been trying to get anyone to do anything he wanted to do all game

That furthers my claim that he's bussing

[WhyMafia]

Or it's a perspective slip with desperado/TFL

[WhyMafia]

Oi guys what do you feel on Wheme?

[WhyMafia]

Why do you believe Whys mason claims is even true

TFL why don't you believe the masons claim

Um I been trying to make a case fore desp all day..nobody taking my case seriously. Maybe my case wasnt good. I dont know but to say I havent made a strong push for Desperado is just a flat out lie.

Please show me where besides saying why Desp is scum, you were appealing to others to examine his slot, and having conversations with others about the merits of lynching Desp over the other wagons

[WhyMafia]

But that's not what I'm saying. I'm asking what specifically made you unsure.

[WhyMafia]

yes

[WhyMafia]

I don't feel good about this but intent to hammer hebi

[WhyMafia]

Hammering in 12 hours

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: binsoops
Then yeah

[WhyMafia]

She's v/la

[WhyMafia]

lol

[WhyMafia]

Is it too late to quick wagon Wheme

[WhyMafia]

Wheme either vote Hebi or Bins right now

[WhyMafia]

TFL place a vote

[WhyMafia]

We're not no-lynching. Whoever doesn't vote is scum claiming

[WhyMafia]

Wheme you're lynched tomorrow

[WhyMafia]

Vote Hebi/Bins

[WhyMafia]

Ok. Now please explain why you did Hebi over Bins

[WhyMafia]

HEBI AND BINS ARE BOTH AT L-1 BTW

[WhyMafia]

fuck it I'm scared we're getting a no-lynch
VOTE: HEBI

[WhyMafia]

I didn't trust this playerlist lol

[WhyMafia]

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for town-hebichan

Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Penguin, Gerryoat, Chickadee, Whemestar, TheFuzzyLogic99, Desperado, Bins,

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for scum-hebichan

Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Chickadee, Bins, Penguin, Gerryoat, Whemestar, Desperado, , TheFuzzyLogic99

[WhyMafia]

We already hammered

[WhyMafia]

What's your tape list?

[WhyMafia]

Fuzzy just slipped lol, and now he's trying to cover it up. I knew that's what you were going for, LUV.

Scummy af. I believe fuzzy in that this was an honest mistake

[WhyMafia]

No matter what, we're lynching desperado today. Gerry/wheme tomorrow

[WhyMafia]

Penguin passed me her tape. Her reads align with mine as well

[WhyMafia]

I'm passing it on now

[WhyMafia]

So you're either scum trying to act like this isn't LYLO or town.

also your mason partner said it too, but only i can be scummy for coming to the same conclusion? lol

Note the or town. He wasn't immediately claiming it a scum slip

[WhyMafia]

Bins and penguin both said to lynch Desp

[WhyMafia]

I think if we no lynch then it's gonna be LUV or I dead

[WhyMafia]

You never received their tapes. They have you on the lowest. I just sent em to LUV. I believe chick/Titus should be receiving them soon
The fact that you're more out to discredit the masons just points further to your guilt.

[WhyMafia]

I just sent em to LUV

??? you dont get to choose who you send to. what are you talking about

They have the order in the list
Penguin has LUV next, followed by Titus

[WhyMafia]

how was that an attempt to discredit

penguin made her lists public and I was not towards the end

Reads change after 2 flips lol

[WhyMafia]

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for town-hebichan

WhyMafia, Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Chickadee, Desperado, Whemestar, gerryoat, Bins, TheFuzzyLogic99

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for scum-hebichan

WhyMafia, Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Chickadee, Bins, gerryoat, Desperado, Whemestar, TheFuzzyLogic99

Here the list Desp seems to be in the middle of the list. Not sure how close this to Penguin Read list

It is different

[WhyMafia]

Titus have you not gotten Penguin's tape yet? I sent that one like a day earlier.

[WhyMafia]

:shrug:

[WhyMafia]

I find your lack of an open mind is disturbing wheme ....

[WhyMafia]

Desp/Wheme/Gerry/TFL

[WhyMafia]

You've just been bleh. Like I've seen a lot of you, but it's hard to see what your mark on town was. The tapes agree, which increases my confidence

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: No lynch

How do your last two posts even make sense gerry?

^

[WhyMafia]

Oh and No Lynch was hammered

[WhyMafia]

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for town-hebichan

WhyMafia, Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Chickadee, Desperado, Whemestar, gerryoat, Bins, TheFuzzyLogic99

Spoiler: Current tape passing order for me for scum-hebichan

WhyMafia, Lil Uzi Vert, Titus, Chickadee, Bins, gerryoat, Desperado, Whemestar, TheFuzzyLogic99

@Titus

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: gerry
Literally confirmed scum to me

[WhyMafia]

???
Nobody else has been on? Additionally quick voting me would make them obv scum
Chick what has Gerry and Desp done to make you SR me over them lol

[WhyMafia]

^
Judge in the play chick

[WhyMafia]

That's stupid. I claimed in my very first post, and consistently softed. Additionally, I claimed at the time because claiming so close to LYLO would be risky, and because I didn't want to waste our time discussing a LUV case

[WhyMafia]

You aren't comfirmed town

You seem quite jealous

Jealous of what exactly?

I haven't seen mod say you are confirmed town

See I'm so blatantly town the mod didn't think it would be necessary
Just ask LUV

hi hi

wow trying not to get on anyone's bad side?????
Obv scum
Carc and LUV sheep me for victory
VOTE: Bins

And what's your case on LUV. He's town

I'm never voting LUV. I'm not necessarily saying Wheme is scum, but the fact that you jumped on, then joined, and are now saying you'll switch back pings me

@titus @chick
This shows that this wasn't a "gambit" lmfao
Additionally, read my interactions with Boon when he claimed IC. Gerry is bullshitting. The two confirmed town (penguin/bins) both believe us as well. Gerry has been a part of every lynch. I've tried fighting each one of those lynches

[WhyMafia]

Additionally, read my interactions with Boon when he claimed IC. Gerry is bullshitting. The two confirmed town (penguin/bins) both believe us as well. Gerry has been a part of every lynch. I've tried fighting each one of those lynches

lmfao bullshit you have

you and luv both sat and did nothing while lily got lynched

and you did not fight the hebi lynch. not only were you on the wagon, but you were also pushing bins and were willing to vote fuzzy that day as well.

vote: whymafia

Because nobody was willing to lynch you? I wonder why ...

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Gerry


whatever

can you not be bad this game lol. what reason would i need to fake a guilty? iirc i was more your TR than others. i would have just killed the masons if i was mafia and bet on you TRing me over the others

It's LYLO. Why wouldn't you fake a guilty lol
Look at you appealing to her emotion and using a WIFOM laced argument

[WhyMafia]

Gerry and I are both at L-2
I told LUV to put Gerry on L-1
So hammer lies with Titus
It's likely that wheme will come and vote me soon

[WhyMafia]

plus why would there even be a neighborizer and masons together, makes no sense

Again with the WIFOM

[WhyMafia]

Additionally, read my interactions with Boon when he claimed IC. Gerry is bullshitting. The two confirmed town (penguin/bins) both believe us as well. Gerry has been a part of every lynch. I've tried fighting each one of those lynches

lmfao bullshit you have

you and luv both sat and did nothing while lily got lynched

and you did not fight the hebi lynch. not only were you on the wagon, but you were also pushing bins and were willing to vote fuzzy that day as well.

vote: whymafia

I repeatedly stated that I do not have a SR on carc. I'm not going to hard defend her if she's a leading wagon. There is always a possibility I could be wrong

[WhyMafia]

plus why would there even be a neighborizer and masons together, makes no sense

Again with the WIFOM

you don't know what wifom means do you

Look at you discrediting me
Keep scum talking

[WhyMafia]

It may have been a poor choice of vocab
But in my POV scum left us alive precisely for this reason.

[WhyMafia]

Again, I'm not going to hard defend someone in the case I'm wrong
@chick remember Green-Haired U-Pick? I hard defended scum day 1. I wasn't gonna make the same mistake

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Gerry


whatever

can you not be bad this game lol. what reason would i need to fake a guilty? iirc i was more your TR than others. i would have just killed the masons if i was mafia and bet on you TRing me over the others

Is this last line not WIFOM? Or do you need to be spoon fed what the last line is

[WhyMafia]

Desperado why did you abandon your tunnel for 2 whole game days. You're still voting TFL, but you haven't tried sorting him at all. You're just being lazy. But that's not scum indicative you say! Then why in your 2 potential scum teams, TFL is not included? It looks like you cannot formulate reads because you already know who is scum

[WhyMafia]

it's not discrediting when you're just making shit up. there was nothing wifomy about what gerry said.

"There was nothing"
Yeah ....

[WhyMafia]

i explained very clearly why i abandoned my tunnel

of course, that assumes that anything you said in that post is actually scummy but hey,

im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt there

Nope you're not getting town cred for the last comment. You believe LUV and I are scum. Stick with it. Push it. Your case is flimsy and you know it

[WhyMafia]

Look at you discrediting me
Keep scum talking

hello?? mcfly???

it's not discrediting when you're just making shit up. there was nothing wifomy about what gerry said.

I'm sorry but you didn't quote anything Gerry said here

[WhyMafia]

i meant insofar as i'm willing to entertain your bullshit "reasons" for scumreading me that aren't based in reality anyway

But I'm scum? Why would you entertain my reasons? Perspective slip

[WhyMafia]

@Titus please ask if you have questions

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Gerry


whatever

can you not be bad this game lol. what reason would i need to fake a guilty? iirc i was more your TR than others. i would have just killed the masons if i was mafia and bet on you TRing me over the others

Is this last line not WIFOM? Or do you need to be spoon fed what the last line is

LOL 'wifom' i love that defense. instead of trying to argue against it, you just say "but its wifom!!!!'

Is it not WIFOM?

[WhyMafia]

vote whymafia he isnt mason, he is guilty

Blatant the manipulation. It's incredibly easy to lie about a guilty in LYLO. Wheme is still your scum buddy; it doesn't matter if you guys are transparent. You probably just wanted wheme to instantly see it. Once one of you flips, it's GG
Meanwhile you only need this one lynch and it's GG

[WhyMafia]

Nope. 99% sure he was guarding someone. Fuzzy was easily mis-lynchable imo

[WhyMafia]

Actually. Wait

[WhyMafia]

Scum knew LUV and I were close to solving the game. LUV and I were in consensus. IMO they probs didn't want to kill LUV or I as it gives a confirmed mason who is likely to be given more credence then people who have been scummy. TFL is a wild card, as he has given little indication of his reads as far as I remember, and didn't really commit to much; so they potentially would want to kill scum?

[WhyMafia]

The fact that Desperado voted me pretty quickly in a LYLO situation is also pretty bad. He pretty much instantly bought Gerry's claim. Scum could've quicklynched and GG. In my eyes, I know Gerry is conf scum for faking a guilty, therefore in my views, Chick's vote isn't bad. However, Gerry and Desp should have no way of knowing if the other is town, so their confidence in each other is staggering. Therefore, it's another reason why Desp is Gerry's scum buddy

[WhyMafia]

Does your opinion change if Fuzzy was not guarding a mason?

I'm confused why my opinion would change. I don't know if he wasn't guarding Luv/myself

[WhyMafia]

BTW who got TFL's tape?

[WhyMafia]

And @Titus did you pass the tape to Chick?

[WhyMafia]

But what's my opinion then? I believe he was guarding someone. How can that change if he's guarding someone else? He's still guarding someone

[WhyMafia]

Titus have you been passing the tapes

[WhyMafia]

Chick = lock town
Gerry & Desp = lock scum
Toss-up = Titus/Wheme

[WhyMafia]

@Wheme it makes no sense for Titus to ask you to vote. Someone's at L-1, it doesn't help her make a decision. If you decided to put me at L-1, she'd have hammered

[WhyMafia]

WHEME DO NOT VOTE ANYONE:
BE THE HERO TOWN DESERVES

[WhyMafia]

@Chick did you receive the tapes from Penguin?

[WhyMafia]

It doesn't matter who we vote LUV. We have the scum team down

[WhyMafia]

We can let Chick/Wheme decide though.

[WhyMafia]

But what's my opinion then? I believe he was guarding someone. How can that change if he's guarding someone else? He's still guarding someone

If Fuzzy guarded someone and that person was shot was conftown, correct?

Yes

[WhyMafia]

But what does that have to do with anything. And please answer the points make against you

[WhyMafia]

And you're voting before Wheme I'm afraid

[WhyMafia]

Titus have you been passing the tapes

[WhyMafia]

But what's my opinion then? I believe he was guarding someone. How can that change if he's guarding someone else? He's still guarding someone

If Fuzzy guarded someone and that person was shot was conftown, correct?

Yes

So what if a not mason was protected?

Then they're conf town ..? But someone is withholding the tape

[WhyMafia]

[3] gerryoat — WhyMafia, Chickadee, Lil Uzi Vert,

Gerry's at L-1
I'm at L-2
If Wheme votes Gerry then ok
If Wheme votes me and you're scum, you quick hammer and GG

[WhyMafia]

Titus have you been passing the tapes

[WhyMafia]

Chick is prob town given Boons flip- dont think a recruiter would kill an enabler , That would be strange
Based on the Bins flip desp might be townWhy
I am not sure of,,,,,,, either they are Masons are scum claiming as masons. I pretty sure there is not 1 and one in that group
Titus..Not sure same thing with Gerry and Whem

and that Fuzzylogic dude is weird ..dont know what to make of him

were his reads

I think knowing who he guarded is pretty important and can drastically change those reads

@Wheme @Chick look at Gerry soft defending titus

[WhyMafia]

Titus have you been passing the tapes

No. I have not been.

Why norm

[WhyMafia]

Stupid autocorrect

[WhyMafia]

[3] gerryoat — WhyMafia, Chickadee, Lil Uzi Vert,

Gerry's at L-1
I'm at L-2
If Wheme votes Gerry then ok
If Wheme votes me and you're scum, you quick hammer and GG

From my perspective I want Wheme to vote to get the probable two scenarios.

But how does it benefit you in making a decision? It's either going to be 1 v 1 or gameover

[WhyMafia]

Justin and Jessica

[WhyMafia]

The fact that Desperado voted me pretty quickly in a LYLO situation is also pretty bad. He pretty much instantly bought Gerry's claim. Scum could've quicklynched and GG. In my eyes, I know Gerry is conf scum for faking a guilty, therefore in my views, Chick's vote isn't bad. However, Gerry and Desp should have no way of knowing if the other is town, so their confidence in each other is staggering. Therefore, it's another reason why Desp is Gerry's scum buddy

im voting you because i think you and LUV are fake

gerry's guilty is inconsequential to that

But in a LYLO situation you chose not to think about your decision at all?

[WhyMafia]

I'm a templar and LUV is a monk
I haven't watched the movie so Idk what that means

[WhyMafia]

And I think the dating part is enough to qualify as masons. Gerry is resorting to flavor to convince people

[WhyMafia]

Justin and Jessica

Summary of flavor?

in the show justin and jessica dated before the whole tape thing. but later on jessica hates justin. no way they are mason

But you're justifying that as how we are scum?

[WhyMafia]

So that's a blatant lie lol

[WhyMafia]

But how does that answer if scum shot TFL directly?

[WhyMafia]

No? you are confirmed to me. so i'm just explaining

But you need to convince others. And you just said you were using it to explain. Your "guilty" has no weight whatsoever. Your job is supposed to convince them that LUV and I are scum
You haven't been stating anything scummy about us

[WhyMafia]

I'm confused honestly
whymafia and luv are masons - i would expect 2 masons to be dead by now i don't see how masons live this long,
but
gerryoat claimed guilty on whymafia - This is obviously something scum can easily do in this situation
i don't want to blindly sheep like chick did cause if i vote wrong we lose.

i have no reason to fake a guilty, i've never done a gambit on this site as mafia. i wasn't even scumread much

"I have no reason to fake a guilty" ... maybe to get a win?
"I've never done a gambit as mafia" ... ok nice self-meta that is completely manipulatable
"I wasn't even scumread much" ... which is maybe why scum chose you to do this?

[WhyMafia]

I'm confused honestly
whymafia and luv are masons - i would expect 2 masons to be dead by now i don't see how masons live this long,
but
gerryoat claimed guilty on whymafia - This is obviously something scum can easily do in this situation
i don't want to blindly sheep like chick did cause if i vote wrong we lose.

We claimed like 2 days phases ago if my memory serves me correctly. Apparently Penguin blatantly softed vig (her tape said so) so that explains one NK. After that, we were already under suspicion, so it works to scum's favor to WIFOM it. And it's entirely plausible that LUV or I was the NK due to Fuzzy's role

[WhyMafia]

it's entirely plausible that LUV or I was the NK due to Fuzzy's role

I never said it was a guarantee. I said it was plausible

[WhyMafia]

How does that change anything. You can just line up a quick lynch

[WhyMafia]

You're acting as if you're conf town when you're not to us. If you're scum, it's a win for you.

[WhyMafia]

If you're town, you'd PoE it to Wheme being part of the scum team. Chick pretty much has to be town here

[WhyMafia]

WOOO
GJ TOWN

[WhyMafia]

Gg to all, fun game!