Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

[Mumble]

Hi.

[Mumble]

Excuse me. It's

Scum

ble. Thank you very much.

[Mumble]

egg how to improve your reads rn

step one: don't vote for quick

step two: i haven't read your other reads so who knows

pagetop too

pedit dammit lalendra

Hi. Who are your partners?

VOTE: acidphoenix

[Mumble]

who are yours

Obviously 3-4 of the ones you listed. Not sure yet.

[Mumble]

Welp. Not sure yet. Not enough info.

[Mumble]

well who's on the other team

I think you're better able to tell me, not that I think you will.

But, you are helping to clear people, so....thanks!

[Mumble]

pls do to mafia, is more effective

tyty

Disagree. Clearing town is much more effective than thinking you've found mafia.

[Mumble]

as far as scum tending to lurk goes mumble would fall underneath that category

mumble is not really playing the game, though from listening to you guys talk about it that seems pretty normal for them? I'd like them to die if I didn't think LQ were scum.

One game is not a tendency. Also, I didn't lurk. I was on a leave of absence. And, I'm not lurking now.

seems like acid is getting little to no traction. who thinks he's town and why?

I don't. Do you?

[Mumble]

Messed up that quoting some how...

[Mumble]

mumble is not really playing the game, though from listening to you guys talk about it that seems pretty normal for them? I'd like them to die if I didn't think LQ were scum.

this is why mumble is suspicious. Only time i played with him he lurked.

One game is not a tendency. Also, I didn't lurk. I was on a leave of absence. And, I'm not lurking now.

seems like acid is getting little to no traction. who thinks he's town and why?

I don't. Do you?

[Mumble]

Better.

[Mumble]

I wasn't lurking? I posted last night, and now on my lunch break. Also, tchil called me out for it last night...so...why are you trying to throw shade at me for responding?

[Mumble]

My posts have helped me so far. Thanks.

Why don't you answer my question since what you said was false and appears to be an attempt to throw shade, Ms. "I've posted 17 times in 11 pages and post count and page count is uber important."

[Mumble]

Why don't you answer my question since what you said was false and appears to be an attempt to throw shade

[Mumble]

I think my question is pretty self-explanatory.

[Mumble]

Hey, Serg. Why are you a lurker?

[Mumble]

I can't say I don't find it odd that you suddenly stopped lurking when someone FOSed you for it, though.

I wasn't lurking? I posted last night, and now on my lunch break. Also, tchil called me out for it last night...so...why are you trying to throw shade at me for responding?

Why don't you answer my question since what you said was false and appears to be an attempt to throw shade

Yup...addressing real occurrences is fake.

[Mumble]

Hey, Serg. Why are you a lurker?

well im not actually, afk really hard. its midterms, work and sports, so busy life.

Went right over your head.

[Mumble]

I was implying that by Lalendra's standards you are a lurker.

[Mumble]

I was implying that by Lalendra's standards you are a lurker.

wut? im lost

It's unimportant at this point.

Though, I do find it interesting that she called me out for postcount/content, but has no issue with you (is a similar, if not worse boat than myself looking at your ISO).

[Mumble]

Also this mumble serg thing reads like a performance to me.

Thanks. I've been working on my theatrics.

[Mumble]

Okay I'm still not sure what your question was; was it why I attacked you for being a lurker when by your definition you weren't lurking, because you posted twice? My response to that, in case it wasn't clear enough, was that I still think you're lurking because AGAIN, it's not the FREQUENCY of your posts, but the CONTENT. You're being an active lurker. If that doesn't answer your question, please rephrase it and I will try answering it again.

VOTE: Mumble

Comfortable with this for now.

I'm not taking Taco seriously, he's not posting anything worthwhile yet either but I can't pin him down quite yet. Plus, my attention was drawn to you due to tchill's comment. I don't think the interaction between you and Taco is genuine, anymore than Taco's defense of me was genuine, he's just amusing himself afaict.

Fair enough. I just looked up the definition of active lurking. Though I don't believe I have been fluffposting, you seem to disagree, and your stance makes more sense than when you were relying on "lurking" which is the act on intentionally not posting. I also dispute that I posted following tchill's comment given that it was first stated almost 12 hours before and would apply to lurking, not active lurking as you have no clarified my actions to be.

Seems convenient for you to handwave Taco's active lurking because you think he's just being silly though, since that is the definition of active lurking by which you scum read me.

[Mumble]

Mumble, why don't you think Acid is town? Now that you're here, enlighten us on your reads.

To answer your question, since you answered mine, I don't really have a strong opinion of acid either way at this point. I sort best during real-time interactions, and was just trying to elicit a reaction. I had to get off unexpectedly, so I didn't get to keep going like I wanted to. Since then, I'm not super fond of the asking general questions "what do you think about x" without any follow up or push, especially when LUV answered (and pointed out).

[Mumble]

Actually like I can see Mumble being scum right now. As town you would also think hey the other could be town too so lets supposed he's town but since he's trying to throw shade on me i dont think thats what town would do?

Because, it's a loose connection to you two being partners since it could be seen as her trying to dismiss your (similar) actions she is using to say I am scum.

[Mumble]

Two players, who have henceforth done absolutely nothing, come into the thread at the exact same time to start a fight over, ultimately NOTHING, with each other.

I disagree with both that I have done absolutely nothing and that I was fighting with Serg.

[Mumble]

Ok.

[Mumble]

I wasn't lurking? I posted last night, and now on my lunch break. Also, tchil called me out for it last night...so...why are you trying to throw shade at me for responding?

This post sucks. Like sure even if you were not lurking, your content is abysmal up to this point so I don't think this argument works in your favor at all.

You should read on then. I thought that she was throwing shade at me for lurking (i.e. not posting) which I found scummy since it was false, which she later clarified to be active lurking (i.e. fluffposting), a term I was unfamiliar with, but makes her stance not false.

The argument works for the former, not the latter.

[Mumble]

Sorry I don't meet your expectations, but I hadn't had any interaction at that point, and I was doing what I needed to do to fix that. That doesn't really have anything to do with my argument though.

[Mumble]

Mumble, who is Town, who is Scum? You haven't made a single stance yet, you've just dicked around the whole time. Like that is the definition of fluff posting which you claim you haven't been doing.

VOTE: Mumble

It's true that I have not made a hard stance, and I think it's dumb for anyone to think they can do so after being in the game 24 hours. You are wrong I haven't taken a stance on anything, and I'm not sure if it is a reading comprehension issue, or an intentional misrepresentation.

[Mumble]

here is the way I see it: If Lalendra is Scum then Uzi has a better chance to be Scum for defending her, but it looks like Laledra might be Town here, which just makes Uzi's defense seem kinda accurate. That is what I am looking at anyways.

If Lalendra is scum, then Serg and Acid have a better than decent change of being scum.

[Mumble]

How is Lalendra a newb who has been here two years and have multiple games played?

[Mumble]

What just happened?

[Mumble]

So, all I have to do is this and I'm considered town?

Cool. I still don't understand what just happened.

[Mumble]

I just did.

*spew* Alignment

Maybe?

[Mumble]

VOTE: mumble

[Mumble]

Welcome.

[Mumble]

I'm not going to do that.

[Mumble]

I have no substantial reads at this point, so I won't waste my time. The fact the you all are pressing so hard for it is ridiculous.

[Mumble]

I get you don't like my playstyle, but that's not really a reason to Scum read me.

[Mumble]

You are pressing hard for me to provide and are scum reading me for it. There is not a difference.

[Mumble]

then make them

novel concept

Nope.

[Mumble]

(he could still be Scum because he disappeared fwiw)

Why do you keep saying I disappeared when I'm gone for a few minutes. Am I expected to be here at beck and call?

[Mumble]

mumble you're not expected to be here at beck and call but when you're real time interacting with someone and leave the thread in the middle of it when they didn't stop it does look a bit

Sorry for real-life stuff? I get a lot from real-time interaction, but we have a 14 day deadline. Disappearing for 30 minutes at a time and then being called out for it is a bit nonsensical.

[Mumble]

VOTE: havo

[Mumble]

i dedicate this pagetop to the spew your alignment game

if you're here please join

mumble if you want a good example of how to start see last page's bottom

No. Your game is ridiculous and subjective.

[Mumble]

wut?

[Mumble]

I don't get what you are saying about your alignment game at all, and you aren't willing to adequately explain it, so I am going to ignore all future references.

[Mumble]

Probably should have had a parenthetical there.

[Mumble]

I have to admire mumble though, I've never seen anyone so committed to not giving a fuck in this game.

I take offense to this, because I do care. Quickety guy gets away saying its ridiculous for someone to scum read him based on his playstyle, but all of you jump on me for mine. It's annoying.

[Mumble]

VOTE: havo

lmao i thought the mumble wagon was lame because lynching lurkers on day 1 doesn't really give any info because nobody has to really take a hard stance there and its kinda just "lets lynch him just to lynch him."

then he voted havo. smh. mumble got a little attention then votes the next guy that gets brought up.

Who said he wanted to quick lynch me after scum reading me based on one game, and then attacks someone for scum reading me..............

Like uber ..........

[Mumble]

Who did I attack for scum reading you?

Hi.

This is Mumbles playing his typical scum game.

Though, to be fair, the first half of it is mostly good. I don't want to lynch any of [EP, Schadd, Lalendra, Luv, egg]

Would be happy to swing quick, though. And only two of those are town reads.

bottom list would be happy to see any of them go besides tchill as I have a strong town VI read on them.

I would be up for a Quick lynch.

Or Mumbles or Tacos or maybe even Boon.

i don't want to lynch any of:
errant, quick, schadd, lalendra, luv, egg

at the moment

i don't really want to lynch mumble but i'd be happy with him

tchill / boon / serg / havo / tsq are the other people in the game

VOTE: tsq

I find it interesting that you voted TSQ, then TSQ joined the thread and instead of pushing on him, you asked him who he'd like to vote. Then you start pushing on Mumbles.

Was the vote on TSQ just for show?

[Mumble]

Mumble is really reacting, to me, like scum that has been found out and is trying to limit the damage by not giving any associative tells. If that's true, then the limited interactions he DID have (like voting havo) give us a decent amount of information. If not, then his death will be in vain because he hasn't helped us do any scum hunting whatsoever, and I'm not going to be very happy.

Haha. I won my only scum game. This is a bad post.

[Mumble]

Because I was able to avoid becoming too suspicious and then rode your's, and town's, bad logic (after coming back from a leave) through LyLo. In essence, I can read the game and do what's necessary to avoid unnecessary attention.

What am I doing here?

[Mumble]

Mumble is really reacting, to me, like scum that has been found out and is trying to limit the damage by not giving any associative tells. If that's true, then the limited interactions he DID have (like voting havo) give us a decent amount of information. If not, then his death will be in vain because he hasn't helped us do any scum hunting whatsoever, and I'm not going to be very happy.

Haha. I won my only scum game. This is a bad post.

Ok? At least I'm actually trying to find scum.

So am I.

[Mumble]

You know, where he had his vote on TSQ, then TSQ joined the thread and instead of pushing on TSQ, he asked him who he'd like to vote, then he started pushing you.

acid's vote was on Boon?

[Mumble]

Because I was able to avoid becoming too suspicious and then rode your's, and town's, bad logic (after coming back from a leave) through LyLo. In essence, I can read the game and do what's necessary to avoid unnecessary attention.

What am I doing here?

60 ish posts the whole game bro. nice way to reword that though.

I love these post count things.

How would you describe what happened without talking about post count?

[Mumble]

Also, sorry you're salty about the baaaaad read.

[Mumble]

So salty you had a shit read and lost town the game

[Mumble]

I take that back. Sorry. I try not to do stuff like that, but I have a temper and you set me off.

Dude, town lost because scum played the way they needed to. Let it go.

[Mumble]

Point being, I don't see how you are meta-reading my play there and here and coming to the same conclusion.

[Mumble]

UNVOTE:

I missed the new vote tonight. Going to re-read.

[Mumble]

also the fact your cherry picking information.

Point out where I cherry picked info. I ISO'd havo, searched me, and posted it. That's not cherrypicking.

[Mumble]

So let's both agree to let that go, and only talk about this game. One game is not meta, man.

[Mumble]

your havo vote is why your scum not the fact your being called out for lurking. then you quickly retract it...

I'm done. Literally, no one is reading what I write. I am being extremely transparent with my actions and comments (and my "meta scum" read is relevant since it was brought in this game).

You think I'm scum, vote me. This town obviously has no interest in honestly interacting, but would rather push meta and thoughts and games, or bend to manipulation.

Tell me at which spot my vote on myself should be at and it will be there. This is ridiculous.

[Mumble]

@mod: can you order the VC by those with the most votes please.

Sure.

[Mumble]

Nope. Still in the same place I was last night. We ready to lynch me yet?

[Mumble]

I have two games. You can find them yourself lazy ass.

[Mumble]

I mean, you cbf'd to click my name and view topics to see?

[Mumble]

I don't like that laziness at all. It's an attitude I see more from scum than town.

Does anyone have games of Thestatusquos where hes this lazy as town?

[Mumble]

Also, it's not defeatism. It's frustration that town (assuming there) is literally ignoring what I write. Additional, I'm more of a detriment in this game than a positive force and should definitely not be in later day phases.

But, sure, call it what you want.

[Mumble]

VOTE: mumble

L-1

Someone end it.

[Mumble]

Lalendra, Thestatusquo
Errantparabola, Egg, LUV, schadd_
Boon
LicketyQuickety, acidphoenix, Havo
Sergtacos
Tchill13

Bye.

[Mumble]

Townie to scummy
'

[Mumble]

mumble then votes havo because havo was mentioned in the midst of the mumble push

You're an idiot or intentionally ignoring things (read: scum <- this is most likely).

I get we have time left, and that's great. You all sort people and stuff, but lynch me before end of day. I'm not coming back from this mess, and if I'm alive beyond today, it's going to only benefit scum. In fact, probably look at those strongly scum reading me but wanting to lynch someone else first.

[Mumble]

I already did. It's in my ISO. You're scum tho, so whatev.

[Mumble]

^
this is why i said "intentionally ignoring things"

[Mumble]

Thanks. Havo is probably town.

[Mumble]

It is "Mumble" tho. Not "Mumbles"

Several people have done that now.

@mod: Can you update vote count 1.6 to include me? I seem to be absent from it. I wasn't voting at the time, I believe.

[Mumble]

It's funny to me you can quote everything you want to make your point but ignore my previous explanation/request. You actually quote two posts that helped explain my previous stance. So scum, chill. You are so scum.

I think Havo is town now because he's voting me upon request.

[Mumble]

So scum.

[Mumble]

You don't think scum would do that?

No need for them to at this point, especially since they know that I am town and can try and point to people on my wagon as scum. Though, I'll concede that if they were on the wagon, my requesting and self-voting would probably give them a good out.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: tchill

 think Havo is town now because he's voting me upon request.

So true, scum never bus when a buddy is irredeemably fucked. Much town, such wow

Condescend more. Or, ya know, don't and be a cool person like Egg.

You're dropping with your LQ lynch lineup, btw. If you are town, take into consideration my town flip and the night kill before guns blazing tomorrow.

[Mumble]

I'm scum reading him because he voted havo at the mention of it.

Why do you keep ignoring/lying? I addressed this at first mention.

[Mumble]

Mumble needs to get on here and explain why my case istterrible on him instead of just yelling scum.

I did, quite a few days ago. I yell scum because you are, for whatever reason, ignoring it. And, even if it was true, is horrible on face value.

[Mumble]

Yes.

[Mumble]

As I've said....

[Mumble]

I still think I should be the lynch though. There's at least one scum trying to protect/town read me. Not sure who.

[Mumble]

acid.

[Mumble]

It alleviated one of my two points. One reason why he's slowly progressed up the ranks of my readlist until - if you'll go back and look - I don't scum read him any more.

That's not a good point though. You are calling me scum for my vote on Havo, stating it happened because it was there. My vote on Havo had a reason; was prior to that the explanation you've posted above; and, was based on what I had stated. You are either calling me a liar at that point, or are ignorant to the circumstance in which the vote happened. Your choice. One makes you scum. One makes you ignorant town. With the fervor of your push/ignoring, I lean the former.

[Mumble]

And so are you.

You're still voting me, right?

[Mumble]

Had you not explained it was specifically acid I never would have figured that out because the only thing close to an attack havo did was against LQ

Also, this is bullshit, because you pulled the exact quote from Havo that explained what I thought the attack was.

Nice try.

[Mumble]

Within a minute...Lots of research you had to do there guy.

[Mumble]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the term.

[Mumble]

See...you're still doing it...ignoring the first part of my rationale which is not disputed.

[Mumble]

No, you were scum before. Keep misrepping.

[Mumble]

I proceed to look through havos iso at the mention of acid and I find one.

There's also 24 (or 9 dependent on how specific you were; "acid" is 24) its for the word. FYI.

[Mumble]

No I'm just keeping up with how many week reasons you're gonna find to call me scum.

"weak"

I have less than you voting me, since mine are founded in fact, and your rely on you ignoring things.

[Mumble]

I still think I should be the lynch though. There's at least one scum trying to protect/town read me. Not sure who.

I don’t like this, though.

Then vote me.

[Mumble]

Didn't even ctrl+f...yeah, I definitely don't believe you then.

[Mumble]

Tchill is faster than a computer!

[Mumble]

I DON'T DISPUTE THAT!

[Mumble]

Good god....how dense are you?

[Mumble]

Again...not getting it. I don't believe you can scroll and identify that fast, especially without using the computer as a tool.

Please up your comprehension skills.

[Mumble]

I think you are being disingenuous, and that you saw that post from Havo before calling me out. Yes.

[Mumble]

[Mumble]

Then I guess we're done here lest we clutter the thread too much for the others.

Peace, scum.

[Mumble]

VOTE: havo

lmao i thought the mumble wagon was lame because lynching lurkers on day 1 doesn't really give any info because nobody has to really take a hard stance there and its kinda just "lets lynch him just to lynch him."

then he voted havo. smh. mumble got a little attention then votes the next guy that gets brought up.

Who said he wanted to quick lynch me after scum reading me based on one game, and then attacks someone for scum reading me..............

Like uber ..........

Who did I attack for scum reading you?

Are you referring to me "Asking" Acid a question? You know, where he had his vote on TSQ, then TSQ joined the thread and instead of pushing on TSQ, he asked him who he'd like to vote, then he started pushing you. I found it odd that he didn't push TSQ, since his vote was there and brought it up.
That's not attacking Mumble. What LQ did to me, now that's ATTACKING.

This reasoning makes sensemumble . That's the problem.

Instead of arguing about why this does or doesn't make sense from havos point of view let's argue about time of posts.

I agreed with you, idiot. That post does make sense. How much can you ignore things...

[Mumble]

Then what's your point about why you voted havo? There's no good reason if you think his question to acid makes sense.

Holy shit, you infuriate me with you inability to comprehend!

I voted Havo because, at the time, he wanted to quicklynch me despite a null read based on our prior game together, and me

thinking

that he was attacking acid. How many fucking times have I said this?

Time progresses, things clear up, and I see that I was wrong. Havo still wanted to quicklynch me despite a null read based on our prior game together; but, I can see that he was not attacking acid. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE REASON WHY I VOTED HIM!

[Mumble]

VOTE: Mumble

[Mumble]

UNVOTE:

Nope.

[Mumble]

Sorry, Egg.

[Mumble]

Impressed with your counting ability. You're making progress.

[Mumble]

I'm going to bed.

VT in case stuff happens while I'm sleeping.

[Mumble]

Are you kidding me. Like...for real. Is that what you read from my post?

[Mumble]

Then what's your point about why you voted havo? There's no good reason if you think his question to acid makes sense.

Holy shit, you infuriate me with you inability to comprehend!

I voted Havo because, at the time,

he wanted to quicklynch me despite a null read based on our prior game together

,

and

me

thinking

that he was attacking acid

. How many fucking times have I said this?

Time progresses, things clear up, and I see that I was wrong. Havo still wanted to quicklynch me despite a null read based on our prior game together; but, I can see that he was not attacking acid. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE REASON WHY I VOTED HIM!

[Mumble]

You keep seeing what you want to see, because seeing reality apparently isn't a strong suit.

Peace, tchill. abcmouse.com is a great resource.

[Mumble]

Ah, damnit, don't humanize yourself.

Sorry for the personal attacks, but I don't think you're being genuine in your comments. If you are, I'm sorry, and you're wrong.

I really am signing off.

[Mumble]

There no “s” dammit. That’s been bothering me all game, and I’ve poked fun at a few who have done it. Is it too much to ask to at least get my name right?

[Mumble]

Wow. Jackass.

[Mumble]

Np. It doesn’t bother me as much when unintentionally done, but Serg was intentional.

[Mumble]

And the thing is, I think town would react to that by also putting a vote on me just because i was a jack ass, but i feel like you didn't do that because you're scum so you want to be careful how you place your vote for what reasoning.

Why would town vote you for being a jackass? Being a jackass doesn't make you scum.

Don't get me wrong. You are a close second behind tchill, but I like my vote where it is.

[Mumble]

Not sure if that's accurate, but if not:

VOTE: Tchill

This is scum which I thought I was already voting...

[Mumble]

Lalendra is either dumb town or scum because she has refused to consider any information this entire game.

[Mumble]

I like LQ, but his wagon puts him in a bad light given my flip. It's been very slow to grow.

[Mumble]

Lalendra, Havo, Serg.

Look at those D2.

[Mumble]

It would be super great if everyone not on the mumble wagon could explain why they are voting the way they are because it would be super chill to hammer and at best kill scum, at least have something to go on for D2.

Oh, damn, only 5 days left...let's hurry.

[Mumble]

I invested too much energy into this game if it doesn't continue. Lame. Has anyone PMed the list mod yet?

I have and we should be getting a resolution shortly. In any case-- I think Havo is a better wagon than Mumbles.

I invested too much energy into this game if it doesn't continue. Lame. Has anyone PMed the list mod yet?

I have and we should be getting a resolution shortly. In any case-- I think Havo is a better wagon than Mumbles.

I think tocos is a better wagon than Havo.

As previously mentioned, I could wagon either one. Not sure the why the resistance on tchill though.

[Mumble]

What information do you feel I haven't considered? Because I have yet to hear a better argument than "you're wrong".

Nah, I'm not going to read for you. Stop being lazy. It's out there within the past few pages.

[Mumble]

Then why draw it out 12 more hours?

[Mumble]

What information do you feel I haven't considered? Because I have yet to hear a better argument than "you're wrong".

Nah, I'm not going to read for you. Stop being lazy. It's out there within the past few pages.

You're right, it's obviously my fault you failed to convince me.

Can't convince someone who refuses to re-evaluate. Good luck with your next tunnel.

I'm done at this point, but I'm not going to hammer myself since it would impact the vote count when looked at in future days. Everyone else can do as they wish.

One final thought. I find it interesting that EP would rather wagon Havo, but remained on my wagon with Havo.

[Mumble]

just posting to note the arrival of Nexus. I'd also like to point out mumble was ok with voting himself until it actually mattered. I'd still like Mumble lynched he is scum.

It's almost as if I learned something while playing! But, hey, great reading comprehension there scumchill!

Spoiler:

It's probably a good idea to step away from the thread for a bit. Please don't vote yourself unless you are scum.

VOTE: Mumble

UNVOTE:
Nope.

Sorry, Egg.

[Mumble]

Because people might disagree with me. If they do they have the right to unvote, or do any number of things.

Anyway, people have had plenty of time.

VOTE: mumble

rest in pepperonis.

3 people on the wagon (most likely scum) had a chance to weigh in. Whatevs.

VT...good job.

Tchill/Havo/Tacos tomorrow.