Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

[Carcalilly]

Can I request different mod text? I have a lot of difficulty reading that.

VOTE: ErrantParabola

Is this any better?

[Thestatusquo]

nah.

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EP is lurking tho.

[Thestatusquo]

idk we can policy lynch luv if you want.

[Thestatusquo]

I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?

VOTE: boonskiies

This joke is way more likely to come from scum than town in RVS.

[Thestatusquo]

Can we lynch confirmed scum boonskiies yet?

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The question, at this point, should be whether Lalendra was truthful in their claim or whether they are Scum. I think this because I think its improbable that Lalendra was doing a reaction test when that was already brought up. Its the fact that her reaction test would be so ineffective that I don't think its likely she takes that course of action. I mean, they already claimed it so there is no sense in hiding it really.

I will say its prolly very unlikely that all of Uzi, EP and Lalendra are all Scum covering for Lalendra. That would group themselves too close together as having the same opinion which I don't think is either an effective strategy as Scum, nor a probable one.

worth noting if boonskiies flips scum.

why are we wasting several paragraphs pontificating on what is obviously a newbie play while ignoring the fact that boonskiies, who is not a newbie, already did it earlier.

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The question, at this point, should be whether Lalendra was truthful in their claim or whether they are Scum. I think this because I think its improbable that Lalendra was doing a reaction test when that was already brought up. Its the fact that her reaction test would be so ineffective that I don't think its likely she takes that course of action. I mean, they already claimed it so there is no sense in hiding it really.

I will say its prolly very unlikely that all of Uzi, EP and Lalendra are all Scum covering for Lalendra. That would group themselves too close together as having the same opinion which I don't think is either an effective strategy as Scum, nor a probable one.

I don’t think she did one unless I’m misunderstanding. I think she wanted to, had some doubt, then saw Boon’s claim didn’t generate much discussion.

claims generate discussion on day 2 or 3. not in rvs lol.

Asectic and Miller claims beg to differ

would you care to talk about the game or...?

[Thestatusquo]

Yes.

[Thestatusquo]

you also have not discussed that, either.

[Thestatusquo]

Yes.

So bring it up and let’s talk about.

what do you think should be talked about?

[Thestatusquo]

Self meta is nonsense.

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Ep, I know. It's almost like I did that on purpose.

I don't like how lq just said that boons response was fine and then jumped into the wagon after a one sentence non-argument from me. Like, at all.

VOTE: LQ

[Thestatusquo]

tchill is reading like Vi to me. I don't see a scum motivation for this latest vote hop specifically.

EPs points are good, but while the pattern of behavior could be consistent with scum trying to active lurk:

a) The behavior could also be consistent with town who legitimately doesnt quite know what is going on.
b) I think scum active lurking is behavior that typically doesn't happen in RVS
i) scum tend to "hide in plain sight" in the later stages of the game, not the RVS.
ii) I think scum are more likely to just lurk, rather than active lurk.

I'm not like town reading them or anything, but I think we have bigger fish to fry. Like LQ.

Can we kill it with fire?

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No, I still think boon is scummy.

But I think you jumping on him after what I think was a particularly spurious argument on my part a) fits the description of scum who want to distance from their scum partner and b) fits scum trying to coast off of a particularly loud player without providing insight and reasoning of his own.

You know what all of those posts have in common? They don't contain at any point YOU providing reasoning for why YOU think hes scum. In fact, the only post besides your vote where you mention him at all is the one where you say that his defense is reasonable. Which then turns into a vote? What?

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notice the convenient second letter in my justification.

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I think thats a gross misstatement of my point, which is more along the lines of "I see more scum motivation for what you are doing than town motivation for what you are doing."

[Thestatusquo]

I don't think I ever accused you of not providing thoughts. What I said is that you are jumping on wagons for which you provide very little justification. Your jump to boonskies after previous calling his response "pretty reasonable" just makes no sense from a town perspective.

My point b is not meant to be read in isolation, which is why it was part of an a b pair. Nor was it meant as you are using it. I see a and b as the most likely motivations behind the action you took, which means that the action most likely comes from a scum player. Are there town motivations for it? Like, sure. But mafia is a game of percentages and I think the balance of potential motivations suggests your action most likely came from a scum player.

This is why your point "that other people have done b worse than me" doesn't make sense in context. You are correct that people have also have been coasting, but there are motivations for their actual behaviors that could be called coasting that are more likely which are town.

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What part of it do you not like? What do you think the motivations for the actions I am attacking him for are likely to be?

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TSQ, what do you think of LQ voting Lalendra?

I don't have an opinion on it yet. I.e. I see town and scum motivations for it that are equally likely.

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Why is that scummy if they legitimately think you're scum?

[Thestatusquo]

*vi read intensifies*

[Thestatusquo]

I suspect I haven't played with anyone in this game before.

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LQ I guess my biggest question is what do you mean by 'this seems reasonable'

Like, the post you were responding to was explanation
For the thing you now say you're voting for. If you think it's a reasonable reason to do what boon did, how can you then turn around and vote for them with no explanation?

I'm also really unhappy about the lunch comment. Attacking someone you labeled as a newbie because of an obvious typo is ???

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mumble is not really playing the game, though from listening to you guys talk about it that seems pretty normal for them? I'd like them to die if I didn't think LQ were scum.

[Thestatusquo]

Why don't you answer my question since what you said was false and appears to be an attempt to throw shade

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ATTACKING LALENDRA?! LALENDRA IS INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone (including serg) have any previous games of him where he has defended people in this manner? Read some previous games and I couldn't find any.

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Also this mumble serg thing reads like a performance to me.

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really happy with that last post from lalendra.

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and by happy I mean warm fuzzy townie happy.

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I could vote serg or mumble. Like I said that entire last interaction felt staged af.

Still like my LQ vote, though.

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Two players, who have henceforth done absolutely nothing, come into the thread at the exact same time to start a fight over, ultimately NOTHING, with each other.

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Also your last post is also noteworthy if either of them flips scum, because its subtle well poisoning.

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i don't want to lynch any of:
errant, quick, schadd, lalendra, luv, egg

at the moment

i don't really want to lynch mumble but i'd be happy with him

tchill / boon / serg / havo / tsq are the other people in the game

VOTE: tsq

X

[Thestatusquo]

Though, to be fair, the first half of it is mostly good. I don't want to lynch any of [EP, Schadd, Lalendra, Luv, egg]

Would be happy to swing quick, though. And only two of those are town reads.

bottom list would be happy to see any of them go besides tchill as I have a strong town VI read on them.

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I'm mostly happy with the following list of people [quick, serg, mumbles, havo, boon]

Of that list I think the most likely to be scum are the first three.

[Thestatusquo]

I'm voting someone, fam.

If you put a gun to my head and forced me to vote for a non-quick person it would almost certainly be mumbles.

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Boon is v/la fam.

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Don't like the defeatism at all. It's an attitude I see more from scum than town.

Does anyone have games of mumbles where hes run up as town and shows this kind of attitude?

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Ok yeah we're done here. your reaction to someone not even attacking you but trying to figure out your alignment is to attack them and call them scum? Blatant OMGUS. You don't care about finding scum at all, or convincing town that you're town.

VOTE: mumble

We can kill LQ tomorrow.

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Thats L2, by the way. So no one can be "surprised" by that number later.

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Also, it's not defeatism. It's frustration that town (assuming there) is literally ignoring what I write. Additional, I'm more of a detriment in this game than a positive force and should definitely not be in later day phases.

But, sure, call it what you want.

FFS MAKE A POST I CAN FOLLOW. WHO IS THE TOWN AND WHY? WHO IS THE SCUM AND WHY? I'M READING ALL YOUR POSTS AND ALL I SEE IS YOU FUCKING SELF VOTING, YOU ATTACKING LITERALLY ONLY PEOPLE WHO ATTACK YOU, YOU EGGING ON YOUR OWN LYNCH.

Give me literally ANYTHING that makes me think you're attempting to engage with this game.

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:/

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scummy to townie or townie to scummy?

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UNVOTE: mumble
VOTE: LQ

[Thestatusquo]

regardless of whether you think i've done any solving wrt the alignment spew game specifically

which didn't get THAT much partially because a lot of the time was

trying to get mumble to do literally anything

actually thinking i just generally haven't is silly

I got mumble to do stuff.

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I think its pretty clear my vote on mumble was pressure.

I do not think hes town, though. It's not from any one thing, but its a culmination of things. But, again obviously, I think LQ is more likely to be scum.

1) He's disengaged with the game, and the kind of defeatism I see from him which leads to self voting and things like "come on, just lynch me already" are things I think are way more common from scum players than town players. Like, do new town players do stuff like this? Yes. But I see this as a "tactic" from new scum players to try to emotionally talk people out of their lynch more than anyone else in the game.

2) I did not like his and serg's interaction. It felt like staged distancing to me. None of it felt genuine, and none of it was similar to how either of them have interacted with anyone else in the game. It's notable, if nothing else.

3) If you read my article on arguing, one of the things that most causes me to think someone is scum when looking at their arguments is a refusal to concede points and arguing to "score points" instead of arrive at conclusions. Mumble fits this profile to a tee. His response to people questioning him is to attack them and to say that "no one is reading the things [he] posts." when, if you go look at the things he posts, none of them remotely relate to the arguments he's having.

Could he just be terrible or not know what he's doing? Sure, but his actions don't feel random to me. If you look at someone like tchill, who I am town reading pretty hard despite also erratic behavior, his actions seem genuinely uninformed. They don't seem to have a concrete purpose. Mumble on the other hand seems to know exactly what he's doing, to me.

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EP, read your first line of your post on havo. How is that different from my thoughts on mumble?

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Right, my point is that EP simultaneously said that my argument about mumbles was bad because "1.) Not AI" (quoting LQ because EP said that he "pretty much nailed the response" there, but in the very same post says "He's getting frustrated by pressure on him and stagnating his approach to the game around it. Scum does that a lot." which is like word for word why I do not think mumble is town (part of the reason, anyway)

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Is that intended to be a question for me...or?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm so sorry to hear that, boon.

If you need any help please OOG feel free to let me know.

[Thestatusquo]

Just wanted to note here I'm traveling this weekend. Will try to check in but my site presence will be spotty at best.

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I've returned from VLA to find a mod and have now read through 13 pages of nonsense that was posted in my absence.

I would like the following list of players to die (tacos, mumble, LQ). I'm ok with the following list of players dying (Havo, Uzi, AP, Schadd). Under no circumstances do I want the following killed (boon, EP, Egg, Lalendra, Tchill)

So I just went to vote mumble and then noticed that this would be a lynch. But the reason I was going to vote him was to put him to L-1 because I thought he was at L-1 and then unvoted himself. If he unvoted himself and he is still at l-1 does that mean he was lynched? Did a mumble vote happen after the unvote that I missed? Going back to check now.

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Ok, immediately unvoted after.

Anyway, this is intent to hammer.

I'll give us about 12 hours before I do so. I don't think we have that much more to discuss today

[Thestatusquo]

Because people might disagree with me. If they do they have the right to unvote, or do any number of things.

[Thestatusquo]

You can feel free to hammer yourself if you want to cut off that time, idgaf.

[Thestatusquo]

FUCKING LYNCH HIM!!!!!

You're one to talk, buddy.

Whats that supposed to mean?

Anyway, people have had plenty of time.

VOTE: mumble

rest in pepperonis.

[Thestatusquo]

So whats our over under on this thread getting locked?

I'm going to say 48 more hours.

[Thestatusquo]

No, we are not doing a 1v1 only two options day 2. What the fuck is wrong with you.

[Thestatusquo]

I will when I get home from Pittsburgh.

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I’m not just looking for an answer, though. I 100% targeted you and have a potential guilty.

if i don't claim at this point it eventually becomes a "lynch boon or tchill" situation and there are people i think are more likely to be scum than boonskies atm.

Catching up from being out of town over the weekend. Updates as I read through.

I like this post. It tracks really nicely with my read on Tchill because this is a really good level 0 reason to do what he did. I also think "I won't claim because then I'll be killed" is selfish and wrong but also tracks with my read of him.

Feeling pretty comfortable with tchill in my list of town types.

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Ok.

Wow that was some shit. Some thoughts in no particular order:

Boon is probably town. LAL is pretty stupid but so is lying as town. I hate boons playstyle but that does not make boon scum. If we look at the results of the play style, its pretty obvious to me that the actions hes taking are not random, and they lead to outcomes which generate very good discussion.

Anyone who wants to kill Havo is scum for what I think are obvious reasons. Not willing to talk about this one any further.

Of all the posts boon made, the one I most agree with is that acid looks like he's angry about how boon is attacking him for what he thinks of as invalid reasons. I see a big difference in how town and scum react when they feel this way about their attacker.

Where is lalendra? I'm not willing to let them skate by today.

I have no idea how to read uzi to be honest. From arguing with him in MD I don't really think he's the most rational person so its hard for me to know whether his attacks on LQ are rational here or not.

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Oh and, I will probably end up voting Acid here, but I want to wait for a votecount to do so. We haven't had one yet today and I want a full picture of where people are before I vote.

@Mod: I understand busyness but you (or your backup) HAVE to get better at doing votecounts this game. It's being embarrassingly bad and its effecting my ability to play.

[Thestatusquo]

Where is lalendra? I'm not willing to let them skate by today.

Didn't have any intention of it - busy weekend.

I didn't think I was skating by D1, if you do let's chat!

As of right now, Tchill is my strongest townread because so far I like all of his thinking, and I especially like the way he handled the claiming. I don't think PRs should claim unless they have to, and I would have been hesitant to do so in his shoes as well. It has literally nothing (something) to do with the fact that I love his avatar.

Who is scum? For starters.

[Thestatusquo]

I guess a more fair question, is what extrapolations do you make from the mumble wagon? Who is most likely to be the scum because of it?

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I mean honestly, I was the biggest proponent of the Mumble wagon, so I kind of feel like I have to start all over there. I also don't know how much info we can really get from his wagon because it was bordering on a PL.

It's really hard for me to not get frustrated by this kind of logic.

[Thestatusquo]

Like I'm currently townleaning Tchill and Havo, both of whom were on board with a Mumble lynch, even though he flipped town. Acid made some non-points about mumble which seemed like they were trying to generate discussion without a lot of original content, and I'm on the fence about what that means, because that also seems to be acid's playstyle. Then there were the weird and pointless interactions with Tacos, which mean nothing now that he also flipped town and gave us basically nothing to work with. LQ and Luv were the ones who argued with me about Mumble the most, but though they had differing points of view, their reasoning appeared town to me.

This is a deeper analysis from what you originally said and is more in line with what I was looking for.

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Egg, perhaps I missed it but why are you not voting acid?

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I think what hes saying, and what I am confused by as well, is that you seem to be devoting a lot of your attention to explaining why Lalendra is scum while voting schadd while not doing all that much to pressure schadd/explain your vote.

Its certainly an interesting thing to look at if you or lalendra ever flip scum.

[Thestatusquo]

Hello! Nice doggo here to offer a VC. Let me know if there's an error!

Vote Count 2.2

LicketyQuickety(1):

Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert(1):

LicketyQuickety

Boonskiies(1):

acidphoenix

acidphoenix(5):

Tchill13, Boonskiies, egg, havo, lalendra

Nobody(5)

: schadd_, Thestatusquo

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!
Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-11-04 11:00:00)

Did a pseudo vote count since the last one. Looks like l-1 to me, not l-2.

[Thestatusquo]

As I literally JUST said, I believe that IS a hammer...

[Thestatusquo]

What the actual fuck.

[Thestatusquo]

Like I'm fine with hammering here to be honest, I don't think this day has any other conclusion and I had also expressed interest in voting acid.

But FFS. How can you vote like that without checking the vote count. Especially when I LITERALLY JUST POSTED IT.

That's an absurd level of obliviousness.

[Thestatusquo]

why in the FRESH FUCK would you claim that going into night?

[Thestatusquo]

I'm back from Las Vegas!

Just finished reading all the stuff.

So I think boon is questionable. His claim makes sense but I also feel like theres a good chance boon could make a claim like that AND set a claim like that up as scum. I also think that his arguments about it are not persuasive because of that fact.

I think the scum are within the group of [lalendra, schadd, luv, havo, boon]. In order of likely to least.

I think LQ is pretty much conf. town. Boon v LQ is likely indeed TvT which is why boon is at the end of my scum pool. I think maybe I'm just paranoid about him here because of the way he plays. I think if he were less jumpy I'd have him in the town camp pretty solidly. Though I'm not sure that the no kill makes much sense in the world he is trying to sell, and that gives me pause. If boon is scum tchill is also scum, but I think tchill is probably town otherwise.

I want to lynch either lalendra or schadd today. Lalendras play this game has been bad for the town. They've been on both ML, without being a person who has seemed to care about anything besides which direction the wagon was going. Her apology post at the end of day 1 also stands out to me as something that is weird from town. Basically lalendra has done nothing this game besides vote to lynch town players that others were pushing.

I also am pretty wary of how no one is bringing her up. Am I missing something here? Is this just the fact that she's been mostly very quiet and her scum partners aren't mentioning her?

VOTE: lalendra

I think y'all are attacking players because they're loud and not because they're scum. I think lalendra is flying under the radar here. Schadd too.

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Catching up. Jesus that was a lot of posts over night.

I’m Town BP.

Which would explain a scum no kill if they targeted me. But apparently this site
Doesn’t allow the Mod to tell you if you were targeted. So I don’t know if I was the target for sure.

I’m not sure why I would be a better target than Boons. There is this tho

Anyone who wants to kill Havo is scum for what I think are obvious reasons. Not willing to talk about this one any further.

So I could have been FOS’d as a PR.

I thought you were softing the vig, tbh. When LQ claimed vig and you didn't counter I immediately became suspicious of you.

[Thestatusquo]

Page 75. Did I miss something? What the fuck is this PL stuff. This, again, seems like a poor scum play from lalendra. Her comments today have done nothing to direct the attention of the town in a positive direction.

They also include hand wringing about mass claim and a weird disclaimer to not lynch a specific role (softing a fake claim, maybe?). I just don't understand why she's completely skating by while you people argue about schadd and boon. Can anyone answer me this: What the fuck in this game has lalendra done to make anyone think she's town?

idk what you're doing boon, but get your fucking head back in the game. We are not PLing the uncounterclaimed vig.

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Oh and SCUM FUCK LALENDRA COMES THROUGH WITH LIKE HER 323235235th HAMMER OF THE GAME.

:/

Schadd has like a high probability to be scum either way, but idc basically. Lalendra is conf scum basically and everyone is fucking ignoring it.

[Thestatusquo]

Thanks for replacing in Toto.

But you are eating rope today.

So you're planning on just letting Lalendra scum hammer for the millionth time? Ffs. Why does no one want to kill Lalendra. You can't all be her buddies ffs.

Im VT.

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I'm down to Lynch mumbles, LQ, schadd and acid. In order from most wanted Lynch to least but I'd still be happy with.

3 of those 4 are dead and flipped town.
VOTE: tchill

yes you fucking hammered like all of them.

[Thestatusquo]

i did claim already lq.

[Thestatusquo]

its in my first post of the day. you even responded to it.

[Thestatusquo]

oh apologies i'm mistaking you for havo. you did not respond to it.

[Thestatusquo]

its going to be very difficult for me to vote for anyone besides lalendra today.

[Thestatusquo]

*points at title*

tis my name.

[Thestatusquo]

she has given zero fucks about who is killed all game.

she has been the yolo hammer every single time after seeming to not think they were scum until immediately before.

she has claimed what i view to be the easiest fake claim in the game. we have an investigative role already and a two shot doc and a two shot vig as well as a bp if everyones claim is to be believed. I'm not big on outguessing mod but there could easily be a watcher enabler in the setup without a watcher for wifom. she wont claim her targets, my guess is because she came up with this claim on the fly and shes worried that she'll get caught in a lie.

i've been screaming that she's obvious scum for like 2 days now and somehow wagons on her never seem to gain steam despite the fact that all shes done is hammer townies repeatedly and not at all care about who is killed as long as its not her.

honest to god if we lynch someone besides lalendra today i am just dumbfounded by the play of this town.

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she also just yolo voted in lylo which is something townies typically don't do.

lq did it too but frankly lq has done a lot of things.

so tchill and lalendra were both voted and not hammered. i think LQ is pretty much confirmed town for his claim so that means there was a town vote on lalendra and she wasn't hammered. meanwhile, the vote on tchill was from lalendra who i think is scum fuck scum scum scum.

[Thestatusquo]

just read her iso. this is not hard.

[Thestatusquo]

i think if lalendra is scum luv is very unlikely to be scum. that would be a hell of a gambit to claim both watcher and watcher enabler. if lalendra isn't scum it doesn't really matter much i suppose. person who makes most scum with lalendra is probably havo or boonslot? :/ i'm not sure.

[Thestatusquo]

*most sense as scum with lalendra.

the easy answer is i am not at all confident that they are but i am pretty confident in lalendra.

[Thestatusquo]

FUCK! I KNEW THERE WAS A FUCKING REASON I DIDN'T LIKE THE CLAIM BESIDES CONFIRMATION BIAS.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't want to hash out who is who's buddy too much because it gives scum information of who to kill at night based on what people think what things and then its a whole fuck ton of wifom for us to figure out the next day.

I think lalendra is scum, I think that LQ is conftown. I think there are some people who make a lot of sense as lalendra buddies and some who make none. I think we can talk about it tomorrow though, because I think lalendra is clearly caught scum here.

[Thestatusquo]

shes had two people vote her and not been quick lynched VOTE: lalendra

[Thestatusquo]

well i guess she was town after all.

[Thestatusquo]

So Boonskies was that Friggin Bad?

Lol. Oh well.

Was your scumdar so incredibly off that you don't think I'm scum even after I just quicklynched someone right in front of you?

[Thestatusquo]

i think toto played it fine. from his pov lalendra almost has to be scum logically.

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i just find it super amusing that i literally just pile on quick lynched someone and the first person to comment after the fact didn't think i was scum.

[Thestatusquo]

wasnt a commentary on his play in general.

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OH I THOUGHT HE WAS SAYING BOONSKIES WAS THE BAD.

got it. no that makes a lot more sense i completely misread his post.

[Thestatusquo]

yeah i agree. this game is like a treatise on when reaction testing goes wrong.

the whole town has no idea what's going on.

[Thestatusquo]

^^^^ yes those things. toto you replaced into a shitty situation and did your best. transcend, thank you so much for picking up the game.

good game to everyone else.

[Thestatusquo]

i completely misread your post. i thought you were suggesting you thought boon slot was last scum.

my apologies.

(although to be nit picky, you pretty much had a post with every possible three person combo at some point.)

[Thestatusquo]

yeah i agree. this game is like a treatise on when reaction testing goes wrong.

the whole town has no idea what's going on.

This is exactly why Lynch all Liars should be enforced.

We had two townies creating a ton of confusion this game.

i do not disagree fam. like, i get what boon was trying to do. he even got some good stuff out of what he did.

(though i will say the meta must have changed a lot here since i last played regularly because back in my day theres no way in hell you'd get away with a miller claim there.)

but then when it was time to get serious he had no credibility and no one knew what was true so the town got basically no value out of the power roles they did have.

[Thestatusquo]

transcend is at work, so we might have to wait a bit for that answer.

[Thestatusquo]

I WAS THE ONE WHO FUCKED UP SO BADLY

STOP TAKING MY DUE CREDIT AWAY

I mean, we had a push on you too.

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Also idk. I thought I played great.

But also it wasn't that hard.

I think boon is making a classic town mistake. Figuring out the game (which he didn't actually do because I think I still win from that position). Is not the same as getting the players lynched. Being persuasive and being able to convince people is a large part of town play, and it was completely absent from your play this game. I think this is because of the reaction testing, but you will surely disagree.

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I agree with mulch about boon. I wanted that slot gone because I thought he was going to be pretty much conftown.

[Thestatusquo]

Serg, you 100% deserved your shot.

If you don't want to get town shot as doc play your role better.

[Thestatusquo]

I respect play styles if they're good.

Yours is toxic and stupid.

[Thestatusquo]

Hell, I'd happily shoot you in any game we're in together and I don't really care about your alignment tbh.

[Thestatusquo]

No one enjoyed playing this game with you.

[Thestatusquo]

You play in a way that makes the game stupid and unfun and leads to gigantic dick waving contests like the one you and mumble had that do nothing for the game except spam the thread with drops of your gigantic ego.

You suck, a lot. I think playing with you is one of the most uniquely unpleasant experiences I've had on this site in 10+ years, and you being in this game actively helped my side. I can't even imagine how people who were hurt by it (town) feel about it.

[Thestatusquo]

It's easy to wave your dick around. It's less easy to have self-awareness.

[Thestatusquo]

Go ahead, keep insulting me. It doesn't change the fact that you got shot because you were doing nothing for the game besides distraction and you're really unpleasant.

[Thestatusquo]

Sticking your naked ass into the air and waving it around isn't reaction testing, bruv. It's just making everyone stare at your naked ass.

You have things going on in real life? Me too. That doesn't have anything to do with this. Everyone has things going on and they manage to not play like root vegetables with a persecution complex.

[Thestatusquo]

Sticking your naked ass into the air and waving it around isn't reaction testing, bruv. It's just making everyone stare at your naked ass.

You have things going on in real life? Me too. That doesn't have anything to do with this. Everyone has things going on and they manage to not play like root vegetables with a persecution complex.

What I"m saying with IRL is that, you're lucky i have IRL things to deal with otherwise this game would've been a lot worse.

Plus what I do is what I do and there was one game I caught 2 scums because I did what I did. I don't give a flying fuck if you like my play or not but please, if you want to argue better, bring some facts to the table and stop making shit up. Mafia is about arguing and analyzing and your argument skills suck ass.

idk it says perfect scum victory up there so clearly they were better than yours.

yours got you shot by the vig because no one wanted to listen to you anymore.

[Thestatusquo]

Plus what I do is what I do and there was one game I caught 2 scums because I did what I did.

lol caught to scum. Throwing darts at a board and having them hit the bullseye once out of 20 does not mean you are good at darts fam.

nah you got shot because you're unpleasant.

[Thestatusquo]

oh well that changes everything.

[Thestatusquo]

nah.

[Thestatusquo]

Name people who enjoy playing with you, who would actively go out of their way to play with you.

[Thestatusquo]

Name people who enjoy playing with you, who would actively go out of their way to play with you.

That's none of your business actually. If you wanna know, sign up with me then

So, none is what you're saying.

[Thestatusquo]

Cool. It's good to know that no one likes playing with you.

We can compare it to the lengthy list of people who hate playing with you and boom bip boppity.

Might I suggest that if you stopped being so toxic maybe people would like playing with you more.

[Thestatusquo]

its not directed at tacos but also its totally directed at tacos.

[Thestatusquo]

Also just deeply unfun so policy shots seem completely justified to me.